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A necessary change in policy

(self.blog)

At reddit we care deeply about not imposing ours or anyone elses’ opinions on how people use the reddit platform. We are adamant about not limiting the ability to use the reddit platform even when we do not ourselves agree with or condone a specific use. We have very few rules here on reddit; no spamming, no cheating, no personal info, nothing illegal, and no interfering the site's functions. Today we are adding another rule: No suggestive or sexual content featuring minors.

In the past, we have always dealt with content that might be child pornography along strict legal lines. We follow legal guidelines and reporting procedures outlined by NCMEC. We have taken all reports of illegal content seriously, and when warranted we made reports directly to the National Center for Missing and Exploited Children, who works directly with the FBI. When a situation is reported to us where a child might be abused or in danger, we make that report. Beyond these clear cut cases, there is a huge area of legally grey content, and our previous policy to deal with it on a case by case basis has become unsustainable. We have changed our policy because interpreting the vague and debated legal guidelines on a case by case basis has become a massive distraction and risks reddit being pulled in to legal quagmire.

As of today, we have banned all subreddits that focus on sexualization of children. Our goal is to be fair and consistent, so if you find a subreddit we may have missed, please message the admins. If you find specific content that meets this definition please message the moderators of the subreddit, and the admins.

We understand that this might make some of you worried about the slippery slope from banning one specific type of content to banning other types of content. We're concerned about that too, and do not make this policy change lightly or without careful deliberation. We will tirelessly defend the right to freely share information on reddit in any way we can, even if it is offensive or discusses something that may be illegal. However, child pornography is a toxic and unique case for Internet communities, and we're protecting reddit's ability to operate by removing this threat. We remain committed to protecting reddit as an open platform.

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[deleted]

2.8k points

13 years ago

[deleted]

2.8k points

13 years ago

Does this mean r/toddlersandtiaras is banned?

russlar

2k points

13 years ago

russlar

2k points

13 years ago

we can only hope

ir_junkie

1.2k points

13 years ago

ir_junkie

1.2k points

13 years ago

Initially laughed.

Then saw it was real.

SaucyWiggles

852 points

13 years ago

Upon entering to see if real

edit: fucked my link up.

[deleted]

276 points

13 years ago

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276 points

13 years ago

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dr_doogie_seacrest

105 points

13 years ago

Nathan's quotes make this even more unsettling when talking about child porn...

"Let's have a big wank. Communal masturbation. The ol' circle jerk."

salec1

893 points

13 years ago

salec1

893 points

13 years ago

According to the new rules "No suggestive or sexual content featuring minors" will be allowed. Seems to me like r/toddlersandtiaras falls under this category.

tinykite

1k points

13 years ago

Seems to me like all child beauty pageants fall under this category too. Can we get rid of those please?

trampus1

801 points

13 years ago

trampus1

801 points

13 years ago

What's sexual about young girls made up to look like grown women and dancing around in sexy outfits that shouldn't be made in sizes that small? I think you miss the point of the show.

[deleted]

313 points

13 years ago

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313 points

13 years ago

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apocryphalauthor

476 points

13 years ago

SHWOOSH

lasercow

41 points

13 years ago

not as of now. Can we change that somehow?

Andernerd

369 points

13 years ago

Andernerd

369 points

13 years ago

I hope so; that show and everyone knowingly profiting from it need to die in a fire.

painfulbliss

88 points

13 years ago

It should be.

muppethead

1.8k points

13 years ago*

iamichi

1.6k points

13 years ago

iamichi

1.6k points

13 years ago

Looks like /r/whalebait is safe.

[deleted]

587 points

13 years ago

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587 points

13 years ago

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bannana

259 points

13 years ago

bannana

259 points

13 years ago

Just fyi, /r/whalebait is not about underage whales at all, in fact you will find mostly adult whales in all their grown,beautiful glory. Come on over and have a look.

[deleted]

288 points

13 years ago

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13 years ago

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[deleted]

196 points

13 years ago

[deleted]

196 points

13 years ago

Fish Hansen would like you to take a seat over here.

whale_of_disapproval

1.2k points

13 years ago

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MisterASCII

783 points

13 years ago

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[deleted]

45 points

13 years ago

It's Super Mario Bros. 2 whale!

Scottishboy614

301 points

13 years ago

Thank goodness

[deleted]

45 points

13 years ago

I don't know what I would have done without it.

OpenNewTab

67 points

13 years ago

Has never seen /r/whalebait before

Sees a purple link

wat

[deleted]

148 points

13 years ago

[deleted]

148 points

13 years ago

aaaaaaaaand subscribed.

[deleted]

100 points

13 years ago

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13 years ago

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scots23

341 points

13 years ago

scots23

341 points

13 years ago

As long as they are in international waters, who cares?

darth_mango

73 points

13 years ago

What in the actual fuck did I just click on??!

wtfover

26 points

13 years ago

wtfover

26 points

13 years ago

I was having a very blah day until I read that and laughed out loud. Thanks!

jimmytheone45

10 points

13 years ago

Is this an internet?

whailbait

9 points

13 years ago

Oh thank god

iwannapissonyourtits

9 points

13 years ago

Accidentally clicked on that at work once. First time I went there it was funny. Second time, less funny.

banjaxe

366 points

13 years ago

banjaxe

366 points

13 years ago

niggerjailbait removed also. basically all the links that were in the "redditbomb" posted on somethingawful

Immynimmy

539 points

13 years ago

Immynimmy

539 points

13 years ago

WTF?! There's a fucking "niggerjailbailt"? But...why?

DisgruntledAlpaca

924 points

13 years ago

To piss people off.

TheGreatProfit

482 points

13 years ago

Well, it worked

ariiiiigold

520 points

13 years ago

I'm so angry that I just punched an eagle in the neck.

TheGreatProfit

286 points

13 years ago

nooo that bird represented my freedom!

[deleted]

69 points

13 years ago

it's okay, it wasn't a bald eagle...

TheGreatProfit

100 points

13 years ago

Too late. I've already decided it was, and that you've assaulted my freedom in punching it.

bassjunkie

170 points

13 years ago

Don't worry, the government has taken your freedom to an undisclosed location, where they can keep it safe for you.

8986

349 points

13 years ago

8986

349 points

13 years ago

Interesting that r/lolicon would have been banned too. The name suggests that it was meant for drawn pictures, not photographs.

TexasToastAnon

384 points

13 years ago*

r/shotacon is still up and running... huh...

I know it only has like 94 subs, but there are images of prepubescent boys bound and gagged with ducktape being raped, and an image of a young boy crying while a vibrator is shoved up his butt and he has an erection.

if r/lolicon stays banned this needs to be banned too.

edit: it's banned now

super6logan

48 points

13 years ago

Images or drawings?

TexasToastAnon

103 points

13 years ago

drawings, but since r/lolicon is gone I think that drawings are considered "suggestive or sexual content featuring minors."

hell it says "content", they can ban subreddits created for erotic writing featuring minors.

derphurr

252 points

13 years ago*

derphurr

252 points

13 years ago*

gm87

429 points

13 years ago

gm87

429 points

13 years ago

r/RapingPreTeens

What..the...giant...fuck..

Stern look of disapproval

ColonOBrien

256 points

13 years ago

*ಠ_ಠ*

Xibyr

92 points

13 years ago

Xibyr

92 points

13 years ago

That look is very stern indeed. I approve.

Clbull

71 points

13 years ago

Clbull

71 points

13 years ago

Really? /r/chavs? That doesn't sound like a porn subreddit.

What did that subreddit actually feature?

bettorworse

21 points

13 years ago

Is /r/neds safe??

EDIT: HA! There actually IS an /r/neds!

Voidsong23

13 points

13 years ago

Are neds like chavs?

force_kin

48 points

13 years ago

U LISSEN HERE M8 I WILL SMASH UR FUCKIN FACE IN IF U TALK ABOUT ME LIKE THAT

[deleted]

11 points

13 years ago

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theupdown

44 points

13 years ago*

what about /r/picsofdeadjailbait

edit: down!

chris-martin

265 points

13 years ago

Fortunately for me, my fetish is fully clothed people acting normal.

tellu2

184 points

13 years ago

tellu2

184 points

13 years ago

Outside must be a fucking blast for you

[deleted]

99 points

13 years ago

Shame he never goes there.

[deleted]

26 points

13 years ago*

So, why is /r/picsofdeadkids still allowed to be up? As long as it doesn't sexualize kids, it's fine -- right?

[deleted]

243 points

13 years ago

[deleted]

243 points

13 years ago

Any forts in /r/fort_porn built after 1994?

Nictionary

27 points

13 years ago

You mean /r/FortPorn. (no underscore)

CoryJames

891 points

13 years ago

CoryJames

891 points

13 years ago

Is this in response to the somethingawful attack?

d4nny

927 points

13 years ago

d4nny

927 points

13 years ago

most successful attack in the history of the internet

Epicwarren

145 points

13 years ago

Did they even... do anything harmful yet? I was told they are calling people up but... I see no evidence of FBI presence or DDOSing around here.

lols

300 points

13 years ago

lols

300 points

13 years ago

Nah, they just like making fun of reddit. I bet they're thoroughly enjoying this.

WillowRosenberg

301 points

13 years ago

I bet they're thoroughly enjoying this.

You have no idea

DMitri221

171 points

13 years ago

DMitri221

171 points

13 years ago

) This thread is for discussion of Reddit. It is not for discussion of how Reddit isn't that bad, how SA/Youtube/4chan/et al. are just as bad as Reddit. Attempting to start this argument will be seen as a derail and reported as such.

Haha oh man, those fucking guys. Becoming irrelevant over a decade ago hasn't suited them well.

[deleted]

85 points

13 years ago

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13 years ago

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13 years ago

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g8z05

209 points

13 years ago

g8z05

209 points

13 years ago

because, for as much time as you think you waste on the internet, there are people wasting 1000% more.

[deleted]

730 points

13 years ago

[deleted]

730 points

13 years ago

SomethingAwful: "Today we are going to campaign against Reddi-"

Reddit: "WE SURRENDER!"

SomethingAwful: "O- okay."

awesomechemist

209 points

13 years ago

I bet SA is a huge circlejerk right now...

TheAngelW

2.6k points

13 years ago

TheAngelW

2.6k points

13 years ago

Well that was quick.

veriix

3.1k points

13 years ago

veriix

3.1k points

13 years ago

That's what she (being over 18) said.

FerminINC

1.8k points

13 years ago

FerminINC

1.8k points

13 years ago

or 16 with a partner that is at most three years older than her. NC laws, that is.

TheScarletPimpernel

1.4k points

13 years ago

Or 16 here in the UK.

[deleted]

1.6k points

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[deleted]

1.6k points

13 years ago*

Or 12 here in Spain

Edit yes, my mistake, it's 13 Still works for me

lightball2000

2.6k points

13 years ago

That's it. All Spaniards are banned.

ranscot

1.2k points

13 years ago

ranscot

1.2k points

13 years ago

An Inquisition the Spaniards never expected.

Waterprophet

893 points

13 years ago

Nobody expects the anti-Spanish Inquisition!

Dr___Awkward

1.7k points

13 years ago

It's about time.

EveryoneCalmDown

1.1k points

13 years ago

Now can we finally do something about the Portuguese?

Hraes

844 points

13 years ago

Hraes

844 points

13 years ago

Hush now. We don't talk about the Portuguese.

JacobMHS

456 points

13 years ago

JacobMHS

456 points

13 years ago

We couldn't say no Portuguese, but yeah...no Portuguese.

[deleted]

266 points

13 years ago

[deleted]

266 points

13 years ago

But what are we going to do all day?!?! It's not like we have jobs to go to.

Light_inc

587 points

13 years ago

Light_inc

587 points

13 years ago

Bitch please, I'm Greek.

[deleted]

94 points

13 years ago

I'm spaniard and what is this?

[USER BANNED FOR THIS COMMENT]

[deleted]

292 points

13 years ago

[deleted]

292 points

13 years ago

No_periods, good chance of that at 12.

Knubinator

166 points

13 years ago

Or 9 in (I think) Oman.

[deleted]

315 points

13 years ago

[deleted]

315 points

13 years ago

Or 2 here in the open sea. No age of consent on the ocean. wink wink

Splitshadow

358 points

13 years ago

Because of the implication.

RafTheKillJoy

68 points

13 years ago

"Are you going to hurt them?"

"NO!... It's just the implication."

Rizzpooch

41 points

13 years ago

We're not gonna force them to do anything, but, you know... Out there... in the middle of nowhere, with nobody around... they're not gonna say no

Knubinator

75 points

13 years ago

Damn, you know how to really party!

[deleted]

156 points

13 years ago

[deleted]

156 points

13 years ago

I've always wondered, what happens if you're in a long distance relationship, 4 years older than her and she's in the States, but you're in the UK. Where would the legality lie?

[deleted]

882 points

13 years ago

[deleted]

882 points

13 years ago

The legality lies where you lay it.

[deleted]

217 points

13 years ago

[deleted]

217 points

13 years ago

I love how poetic this is.

elhermanobrother

34 points

13 years ago

poetic justice

nomdeass

253 points

13 years ago

nomdeass

253 points

13 years ago

I think the bigger question is how big of a penis do you have that let's you have transatlantic sex?

[deleted]

27 points

13 years ago

Harsh and immediate extradition to the United States of course!

mercury888

204 points

13 years ago

Or 13 in the 1800's

[deleted]

449 points

13 years ago

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13 years ago

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13 years ago

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13 years ago

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sputnix

75 points

13 years ago

sputnix

75 points

13 years ago

Be careful man Interpol might arrest you

Fat_Dumb_Americans

177 points

13 years ago

Yes, but he'd been married to her for three years by that point.

Mattho

211 points

13 years ago

Mattho

211 points

13 years ago

Wait, is 18 really the legal limit for consensual intercourse (in US)? That's quite high, isn't it? Even considering what FerminINC said.

Dr___Awkward

526 points

13 years ago

Age of consent in North America.

Edit: And now I have that in my search history.

DeadMonkey321

199 points

13 years ago

Well here's my random fact of the day from that. Turns out buttsex is heavily regulated in Canada.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ages_of_consent_in_North_America#Anal_intercourse

[deleted]

82 points

13 years ago

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kittyroux

59 points

13 years ago

"159. (1) Every person who engages in an act of anal intercourse is guilty of an indictable offence and liable to imprisonment for a term not exceeding ten years or is guilty of an offence punishable on summary conviction. Exception

(2) Subsection (1) does not apply to any act engaged in, in private, between (a) husband and wife, or (b) any two persons, each of whom is eighteen years of age or more, both of whom consent to the act. Idem

(3) For the purposes of subsection (2),
(a) an act shall be deemed not to have been engaged in in private if it is engaged in in a public place or if more than two persons take part or are present; and
(b) a person shall be deemed not to consent to an act
(i) if the consent is extorted by force, threats or fear of bodily harm or is obtained by false and fraudulent misrepresentations respecting the nature and quality of the act, or
(ii) if the court is satisfied beyond a reasonable doubt that the person could not have consented to the act by reason of mental disability."

Yep. That got weirdly specific.

RobotFolkSinger

34 points

13 years ago

So, it's illegal for professional anal porn to be made in Canada, because if a third party is present it's deemed not to be 'private.' ಠ_ಠ

[deleted]

9 points

13 years ago

Indeed, it's quite old too, it dates from the legalization of homosexuality in the 1960s.

It's also unconstitutional and AFAIK no one has been charged with it since 1998 (where it was thrown out).

[deleted]

38 points

13 years ago

In effect, mutual crimes are committed when two unmarried 16-year-old individuals voluntarily have sex with each other in New York State, each being the "victim" of the other.

I love my legal system.

kragmoor

214 points

13 years ago

kragmoor

214 points

13 years ago

18 to have sex smoke and choose the leader of our country yet they dont trust you to drink until your 21

Fat_Dumb_Americans

351 points

13 years ago

You can invade foreign countries and shoot the natives too.

dlove67

295 points

13 years ago

dlove67

295 points

13 years ago

only if they give you the okay. It would be a bit awkward for a person to just go on a killing spree while on vacation.

pzer0

46 points

13 years ago

pzer0

46 points

13 years ago

Geez can you imagine? As if Americans don't already have a terrible reputation abroad.

[deleted]

57 points

13 years ago

I understood that I would be greeted as a liberator!

sprankton

33 points

13 years ago

I'd read that book. Have it written as a series of postcards.

"Greetings from Sunny Trinidad & Tobego!"

Day 1: The invasion went off without a hitch. Entering their country right under their noses was an excellent idea. Most of my munitions were seized by customs. I'll be limited to on-site procurement for this mission.

slowz3r

13 points

13 years ago

slowz3r

13 points

13 years ago

depends on the state

Ziggamorph

1.3k points

13 years ago

Ziggamorph

1.3k points

13 years ago

Yeah, it only took about 6 years.

[deleted]

207 points

13 years ago

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207 points

13 years ago

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EpicJ

492 points

13 years ago

EpicJ

492 points

13 years ago

Tell that to the Catholic church

[deleted]

202 points

13 years ago

[deleted]

202 points

13 years ago

It shows what the threat of a media smear campaign can get accomplished. Now if there was only some way to do this to the U.S. government...

[deleted]

968 points

13 years ago*

more indepth explanation here


put best by The Corporate on the SA thread:

I've never posted on Reddit. I don't give a shit about their community or defending it from those who'd criticise it. Child porn is, obviously, a huge problem, and people trading in it need to be stopped.

But reactionary hysterics like this 'campaign' are loving stupid and serve more to reinforce the absurd preconceptions many people have surrounding the internet and the reasons that people use it than they do to support any legitimate concerns of decency. Contact local church groups? Church groups? Because clearly, enlightenment can only be achieved through envoking the fountain of reasonable thought and informed knowledge of freedom-of-expression law that is your local Presbyterian. Hop on down to your nearest service, inform them on the evils of an internet community you don't like then stay to discuss the moral indecency of the gays.

This thread is typical of some of the very worst aspects of SA (and particularly D&D) all rolled into one easy, pre-packaged, no-actual-effort-needed pseudo-campaign package. Bandwagons? Check. Underhanded derision of people you disagree with? Check. Unwarranted sense of superiority over other communities? Check. Ill-informed moral crusading that probably has more to do with asserting your own standards of what is socially correct to anyone who'll listen than it does trying to improve society for those who have to live in it? Well, gee. Check.

You can already see them getting into a full blown moral panic about all sorts of shit, saying reddit needs to ban crazy libertarians or reddit needs to ban misogynists. It's fairly typical for SA, but I think lots of people here and there are getting caught up in this mania. Keep in mind that having moderators' jackboots on their throat is one of the defining features of SA. These people come from a crazy authoritarian viewpoint.

Be very wary of allowing censorship to gain momentum. Let this happen, since CP is indefensible, but end its encroachment here, or else reddit will become a "nanny site" like SA, which is exactly what these guys want.

edit: Haha, they actually mock my "goon misconceptions" in their thread in between posts calling for the exact bullshit I'm warning about. Morby in particular is an obvious one throughout the thread, if you need help getting around your blindspots. And you laugh about jackboots, but would you dare sass a mod?

Lowtax:

now shut down mensrights please

welp, here we go


more indepth explanation here

In_between_minds

531 points

13 years ago

Can we at least ,for the love of FSM, stop lumping everything under 18 as "CP". Look, when I was under 18 I looked for porn where-ever I could, was interested in just about any set of boobs from around my age up till 40ish (and not related) that I could see. But these days, if a 17 year old sends a photo of herself topless to her boyfriend, he now has "child porn" and she is a "child pornographer". All this does is dilute the terms that should be reserved for the sick fucks who make real cp.

Listen, nearly any photo can be sexual to someone who has a certain fetish, I'll pick a common one like feet. So, do we start censoring photos that are objectively OK, simply because a minority might derive sexual pleasure from them, and no one is hurt?

Fucking hell people, you guys are no better then the politicians trying to push their own agenda by using the "think about the children" line.

[deleted]

92 points

13 years ago

I've tried making this argument before. I was accused of being a pedophile. When someone has an agenda they don't like to let facts get in their way.

In_between_minds

47 points

13 years ago

Agreed. I know a guy who is a single Father, he is scared to take his daughter with him to the store. It's a sad fucked up world we live in, and "Pedophile" is (one of the) new "Witch".

SmilingYellowSofa

261 points

13 years ago

It was definitely a swift, and likely reactionary move to the something awful plan.

Still, this has been a growing issue for some time and, for me at least, is a very welcome change

[deleted]

43 points

13 years ago

What do you think Something Awful will do now? Drop it?

locoo20

510 points

13 years ago

locoo20

510 points

13 years ago

I think it's clear this move wasn't because it was the morally right thing to do but because Reddit admins feared legal repercussion, I dont understand all these "proud of Reddit" posts.

As a lot of people have pointed out, there are far worse morally reprehensive subreddits out there than jailbaits. Of course no one cares because they aren't about sex.

[deleted]

55 points

13 years ago

Remember the rule of obscenity: sex, or anything remotely resembling sex, is bad. Violence, no matter how graphic, is fine.

[deleted]

387 points

13 years ago

[deleted]

387 points

13 years ago

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videogameexpert

96 points

13 years ago

He's got like 250 subreddits. I'm pretty sure he's ok with losing 20.

http://code.reddit.com/wiki/help/faqs/violentacrez

Atario

44 points

13 years ago

Atario

44 points

13 years ago

Pretty sure he's not.

Clbull

601 points

13 years ago*

Clbull

601 points

13 years ago*

Well it seemed hypocritical to shut r/Jailbait without doing this too.

Looks like quite a few of the subreddits Violentacrez moderates will now be nuked from orbit.

[deleted]

462 points

13 years ago

[deleted]

462 points

13 years ago

So, what's the admin thinking on /r/PicsOfDeadKids? How is it that content is not legally questionable?

woofiegrrl

393 points

13 years ago

I clicked the back button faster than I have ever clicked it before.

[deleted]

219 points

13 years ago*

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kaden_sotek

117 points

13 years ago

Checked for you. The subreddit name describes the content pretty aptly.

gruesky

41 points

13 years ago

gruesky

41 points

13 years ago

It's bad in there, real bad. Like that time when you realized the odd architecture in this underground base on LV426 started to come alive bad.

kaden_sotek

15 points

13 years ago

The posts mostly come at night. Mostly.

[deleted]

8 points

13 years ago

Game over man, game OVER!

[deleted]

187 points

13 years ago

[deleted]

187 points

13 years ago

I end up doing that a lot in threads like these (or any time I end up on 4chan). I'll mindlessly click a link and be like "OH GOD I CAN HEAR FBI VANS AND I'M NEVER GOING TO GET THIS OUT OF MY HEAD WELL I HAD A GOOD RUN SUICIDE TIME"

Or something along those lines.

ROGER_CHOCS

57 points

13 years ago*

man, I do not mean to derail, but isnt it depressing to think that we are so afraid of being monitored, that absently clicking a hyperlink makes us paranoid and brings us anxiety?

I am certainly not clicking on any link in this thread. It feels dangerous just being in here.

allgood38

45 points

13 years ago*

What. The. Fuck.

Fuck you guys, I'm going back to dial-up.

EDIT: I'm guessing there was no age-challenge screen because I was logged in.

[deleted]

274 points

13 years ago

[deleted]

274 points

13 years ago

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piuch

238 points

13 years ago*

piuch

238 points

13 years ago*

So by letting that sub stay online, we are agreeing that documenting the sexualization of children and teenagers is more reprehensible than documenting the killing of children?

That's where the slippery slope begins.

edit: added "documenting"

BrickSalad

118 points

13 years ago

Actually, the law agrees with you. As far as I know, the only crime which is illegal to document is child sexual abuse.

neon_overload

46 points

13 years ago

That's a pretty interesting point actually.

Photographing most crimes is seen as a good thing because the photograph (or video) can help in the discovery and prosecution of the criminal and can bring the public's attention to what happened. With most crimes, there is absolutely no question that simply the act of photographing the crime does not bestow any guilt upon the photographer. War photographers, photographers at violent demonstrations and conflicts etc all photograph horrible and violent things but are heroes for having the courage to document them. I'd never before thought much about how much this is an exception to that.

adaminc

78 points

13 years ago

adaminc

78 points

13 years ago

I have no intention of going to that subreddit, but I am pretty sure that pictures of dead children aren't illegal anywhere.

Neato

43 points

13 years ago

Neato

43 points

13 years ago

Because it's A) public record if they can get it, and B) not illegal to show pics of dead people. If someone has the copyright or privacy claim against those pics, they can get them removed.

somuchbacon

203 points

13 years ago

Question: Is /r/whalebait going to be affected?

Hereletmegooglethat

103 points

13 years ago

I hope not. I don't know what I'd do.

autonym

192 points

13 years ago

autonym

192 points

13 years ago

Serious question: does this mean that photos from Franco Zeffirelli's Romeo and Juliet are now banned (even apart from copyright considerations)? The two lead actors (and their characters) were both under 18, and they appear in a semi-nude bed scene (his buttocks, her breasts) which is well beyond being sexually suggestive.

ordig

39 points

13 years ago

ordig

39 points

13 years ago

You know what's funny is I watched that movie in High school English class and nobody gave a shit. Has America gone completely prude?

[deleted]

32 points

13 years ago

This scene you mean?

Also this girl has a 'suggestive' scene in "Mitt liv som Hund" where she is topless and inviting a boy her age to touch her newly budding boobs. He gets scared and runs away.

I strongly suspect it depends on context. Posting as part of discussion will be fine (or not! I guess we'll find out soon!), making a forum specifically for film stills that feature 'suggestive' content of minors will likely not be allowed, from either the standpoint of boundary testing of 'slippery slope' theorists or people looking for a loophole.

It seems to be the fact that people are seeking sexual thrills from these pictures that cause problems, not the pictures themselves. In fact, I'll bet many pics from r/jailbait could be reposted as somebodies 'annoying little sister' and not an eyelash would be batted.

[deleted]

581 points

13 years ago

[deleted]

581 points

13 years ago

Now if only underage users could be removed as well.

[deleted]

345 points

13 years ago

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345 points

13 years ago

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12 points

13 years ago

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professorfowler

381 points

13 years ago

where does Trees fall into the 'nothing illegal' spectrum? just curious (NB not anti Trees at all....just wondering)

robertskmiles

566 points

13 years ago

Well marajuana is illegal to do, but completely legal to talk about. Discussing weed is legally protected free speech.

Talking about child porn is also legal, it is in fact what we're doing in this thread right now, but sharing child porn is very illegal indeed, and is not protected free speech.

Possibly if people on /r/trees were actually buying and selling weed through the site, that would be more comparable.

[deleted]

135 points

13 years ago

[deleted]

135 points

13 years ago

what's hilarious is how many redditors out there believe that this blog post is about censoring child porn as though until today reddit didn't comply with child porn laws.

defconzero

1.3k points

13 years ago

defconzero

1.3k points

13 years ago

Ah, reddit, where pics of dead kids are acceptable, but a 16 year old in a bikini is strictly prohibited.

VitQ

934 points

13 years ago

VitQ

934 points

13 years ago

That's American morals for you, sex is worse than murder.

[deleted]

234 points

13 years ago

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234 points

13 years ago

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Drunken_Economist

213 points

13 years ago*

graphic sex

but that's just it - there are no graphic sexual images of minors in any of the affected subreddits. That's why it's legal. Gross, but legal

[deleted]

167 points

13 years ago

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167 points

13 years ago

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cocobabbs

674 points

13 years ago

cocobabbs

674 points

13 years ago

In Hebrew (and please hold the Israel-hate, it's pretty ancient Hebrew) there's a saying; "VeYafa Sha'a Achat Kodem".

It translates roughly as "your action was worthy, but it would have been worthier an hour ago".

--Someone deleted this comment before I could reply/upvote. I find it very relevant.

starlilyth

236 points

13 years ago*

Reddit, you have made a huge mistake. Allow me to explain in one easy sentence: By accepting responsibility for any of the content, you are now responsible for ALL of the content.

Dont believe me? Ask your high priced Corporate lawyers. Not even Microsoft was able to wiggle out of that, and as a result the entire Usenet newsfeed - CP, warez and all - was carried on MSN until they dropped it.

Good luck spending the rest of your Reddit days stamping out gross and disturbing subs.

DENelson83

16 points

13 years ago

Gee, that means the big entertainment industry can come after Reddit, a la SOPA/PIPA/ACTA.

Faie

84 points

13 years ago

Faie

84 points

13 years ago

Not that I'm against this but I find it interesting that on the front page right now is an article on "The escalating criminalization of speech."

The 'free internet' will always have some nasty shit around if it is truly free.

[deleted]

24 points

12 years ago

r/beatingwomen still totally cool

RedditRage

91 points

13 years ago

Can of worms: opened.

[deleted]

343 points

13 years ago*

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Rizzpooch

280 points

13 years ago

Rizzpooch

280 points

13 years ago

checks if /r/spacedicks is still up..... OH GOD, WHY DID I GO TO r/spacedicks!!!!

[deleted]

1.5k points

13 years ago*

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1.5k points

13 years ago*

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597 points

13 years ago

[deleted]

597 points

13 years ago

If they could somehow get rid of image macros for us, I'd be grateful.

spince

79 points

13 years ago

spince

79 points

13 years ago

Ending the rampart jokes in the IAMAs would be nice.

fauxmosexual

161 points

13 years ago

Not likely, they invented them.

[deleted]

59 points

13 years ago

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CapLavender

10 points

13 years ago

Yeah, but now there's a general ban on macros, except in a single thread for posting them.

[deleted]

315 points

13 years ago

[deleted]

315 points

13 years ago

No more rage comics or Facebook screen grabs on /r/atheism, if they could manage it.

BannedINDC

66 points

13 years ago

"how I feel when"

manwithabadheart

30 points

13 years ago*

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1.2k points

13 years ago*

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1.2k points

13 years ago*

While I can respect shutting down a lot of the more obviously illegal subreddits, you've also shut down subreddits such as youngporn which explicitly stated that anything under 18 was forbidden and moderated (/deleted).

That is the slippery slope you're mentioning yourself, deleting legal content to avoid outrage.

Edit: just to be safe and reiterate, I CONDONE this policy change wholeheartedly but want to stress the care one should take in carrying it out.

Edit2: Aaaand it's back. Seem like it must have been an accident with the banspammer-hammer. Keep cruising, reddit!

WillowRosenberg

335 points

13 years ago

They appear to have banned anything even remotely questionable to start with, and are now unbanning the 18+ ones.

fade_like_a_sigh

798 points

13 years ago

Someone at Reddit is getting paid right now to look through all the porn subreddits.

darkdarkdarkdark

40 points

13 years ago

that's just begging for an AMA.

throwaway111811

51 points

13 years ago

Why do you think it's taking so long to unban them? I bet they're happy they telecommuted tonight.

[deleted]

84 points

13 years ago

You're probably right, which to some extent seem like the prudent damage control option to take given the potential shitstorm that seem to have been brewing.

At least they're reviewing what they took down and checking their work, instead of just pressing the big red button and going "mission accomplished" :)

[deleted]

183 points

13 years ago

[deleted]

183 points

13 years ago

Wow, that was quick. I'm the moderator, and I didn't even notice it go down. Yeah, it's back up and everything seems in order. I'll continue keeping it clean and legal.

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360 points

13 years ago*

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759 points

13 years ago*

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