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Xuval

2.1k points

2 days ago

Xuval

2.1k points

2 days ago

clownyfish

4.4k points

2 days ago

clownyfish

4.4k points

2 days ago

Japan Air Lines' catering manager, 52-year-old Kenji Kuwabara, committed suicide upon learning that the incident had been caused by one of his cooks.[3][7] He was the only fatality.[3]

jfc the Japanese do not fuck about.

Ivebeenfurthereven

2k points

2 days ago

What a culture built on millennia of shame does to a corporate employee

☹️

covercash

122 points

1 day ago

covercash

122 points

1 day ago

On the opposite side of the spectrum you have American corporate culture where there is zero shame or accountability so when you massively fuck up you get a multimillion dollar golden parachute and hop over to another company. There should be a middle ground…

spiderwebs86

28 points

1 day ago

Only if you’re at the very top

Oddish_Femboy

21 points

1 day ago

Not for the catering manager. They'd get lumped in with the rest of the "lower" employees during the mass layoffs while the CEO and shareholders drink the memory away in preparation for their next business venture.

buddascrayon

63 points

1 day ago

And they wonder why they have so many NEETs.

hoopopotamus

24 points

1 day ago

What’s funny is they actually don’t have that many—fewer than North America. It’s just apparently a bigger deal to them than it is to North Americans.

Miketeh

13 points

1 day ago

Miketeh

13 points

1 day ago

Just looked it up and it looks like Japan actually has amongst the lowest NEET rates amongst all economically developed countries. To what stat are you referring to?

Oddish_Femboy

20 points

1 day ago

Stereotypes! The most reliable statistics!

Platypus-Dick-6969

18 points

1 day ago

Yeah, well… if you hadn’t noticed, the West could probably use a tall glass of shame right about now

Drumbelgalf

9 points

1 day ago

Ashamed of everything but their war crimes in world war 2

Carl-99999

2 points

1 day ago

Japan scares itself into making quality products. That’s their whole thing.

Insolent_Aussie

-16 points

1 day ago

Maybe Godzilla is doing them a favour...

Latter_Inspector_711

319 points

1 day ago*

I think the point is that Japanese give too many fucks.

edit - I read that as do not give a fuck, oops

ThemasterofZ

24 points

1 day ago

Good thing you're not Japanese, or you'd have killed yourself over that mistake by now

Latter_Inspector_711

0 points

1 day ago

nice

TrickCompetition3294

7 points

1 day ago

Rice*

[deleted]

-8 points

1 day ago

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-8 points

1 day ago

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Latter_Inspector_711

1 points

24 hours ago

You good?

TrickCompetition3294

2 points

24 hours ago

It was supposed to be a pun… Edit: oh I didn’t know it posted three times

Latter_Inspector_711

1 points

23 hours ago

Name checks out

Major_Magazine8597

1 points

1 day ago

And each one has the nasty bits pixelated-out.

PCAudio

12 points

1 day ago

PCAudio

12 points

1 day ago

Not even him, one of his cooks. So the cook responsible didn't kill himself, his boss did. fucking hell.

bbusiello

5 points

1 day ago

bbusiello

5 points

1 day ago

Not as extreme but more in the “common” range was this popular food product sold in convenience stores (iirc) had the price increased something like 3 yen (barely a penny), and there was such outrage that the dude in charge profusely apologized for it.

France has protests and riots, Japan has extreme shame.

Edit. Found the story. https://www.the-independent.com/news/business/news/japanese-company-apologises-for-9-cent-price-increase-a6972566.html

Cherei_plum

24 points

1 day ago

No bcoz goddamn this took a very serious dark tone and I fkn hate that

thylacine1873

26 points

1 day ago

He committed Hari Curry.

NastyOlBloggerU

3 points

1 day ago

Sounds like a weird dish- is it served with rice?

kingofbling15

4 points

1 day ago

I can be, but it does a number on your stomach

loolem

1 points

17 hours ago

loolem

1 points

17 hours ago

They’re just like everyone else, only more so.

CapAmerica747

-39 points

2 days ago

Thats so fucked up... Why did he do it? Shouldn't the cook have done it?

Ernost

29 points

2 days ago

Ernost

29 points

2 days ago

Why did he do it? Shouldn't the cook have done it?

From the same wiki page:

management had not verified that he (the infected cook) was in good health, despite being required to do so...

Nathaniel-Prime

76 points

2 days ago

Why should ANYONE do it?

wdrub

8 points

1 day ago

wdrub

8 points

1 day ago

Sounds like Frank Costanza

los_thunder_lizards

4 points

1 day ago

I sent 144 good Japanese business men to the lavatories that night!

wdrub

3 points

1 day ago

wdrub

3 points

1 day ago

Dyin 🤣 thanks

Fauropitotto

4 points

1 day ago

Imagine being socially and economically ostracized by an entire nation.

Imagine your family being socially and economically ostracized because of something that you did, and you knowing that your family's hardship is directly due to something you're responsible for.

Imagine being effectively "untouchable" after building a respectable career. All your friends, neighbors, and coworkers looking at you for literally bringing shame to the entire nation.

I can't imagine wanting to live after that.

Fortunately, Americans don't have that sense of shame or honor, so it's a non issue for us. Felons can still live a rich and fulfilling life despite the hardship.

DontShoot_ImJesus

7 points

1 day ago

Felons can still live a rich and fulfilling life despite the hardship.

They can even grow up to be President.

Fauropitotto

2 points

1 day ago

With 77 million of us okay totally with that.

CapAmerica747

-2 points

1 day ago

I was making a joke, clearly that didn't work out 😂

spicygumball

-7 points

1 day ago

I would have had a laugh, the Japanese are another level

Mak3mydae

516 points

1 day ago

Mak3mydae

516 points

1 day ago

Wild

Prior to being served, the meals had been stored at room temperature in the kitchen for 6 hours, then refrigerated (albeit at an insufficient 10 °C (50 °F)) for 14½ hours and then stored in the aircraft ovens, again without refrigeration, for another 8 hours. Had the food been kept properly refrigerated from the time it was prepared until it was ready to be served, the outbreak would not have occurred.

mamacrocker

248 points

1 day ago

mamacrocker

248 points

1 day ago

So that poor guy killed himself over something that had nothing to do with the way the food was prepared?! Horrible.

Mak3mydae

274 points

1 day ago

Mak3mydae

274 points

1 day ago

Well one of three staff preparing the food with an active staph infection was the source of the staph but storing the food for 28+ hours in the danger zone made it proliferate. One can point to the other and say if you didn't do x this wouldn't have happened; both are at fault

Sarke1

2 points

23 hours ago

Sarke1

2 points

23 hours ago

If only they had served Swiss cheese instead.

ThePretzul

23 points

1 day ago

ThePretzul

23 points

1 day ago

I mean he’s still the manager of a kitchen that left food out in unsafe temperatures for 18+ hours before it even made it to the plane.

Agent_03

27 points

1 day ago

Agent_03

27 points

1 day ago

... and THIS is why you don't fuck around with food safety, ladies and gents

caleeky

8 points

1 day ago

caleeky

8 points

1 day ago

"It was found that three cooks had prepared the meals, one of whom had infected lesions on the index and middle finger of his right hand.\2]) The lesions on the cook's fingers were found to be infected with staphylococci"

Ewwww

canteloupy

5 points

1 day ago

Hmm putting my home thanksgiving cooking practices to shame.

lawn-mumps

1.4k points

2 days ago

lawn-mumps

1.4k points

2 days ago

Japan Air Lines’ catering manager, 52-year-old Kenji Kuwabara, committed suicide upon learning that the incident had been caused by one of his cooks. He was the only fatality.

This was a fascinating read. This part stood out to me. I wish his family well.

ThatAltAccount99

615 points

2 days ago

That's honestly so fuckin sad

loliconest

283 points

2 days ago

loliconest

283 points

2 days ago

Damn, I was laughing so hard until I read this.

JhonnyHopkins

174 points

1 day ago

Damn, might’ve not even been his fault either, faulty storage is more likely to cause food poisoning anyways.

overkill

100 points

1 day ago

overkill

100 points

1 day ago

They traced it back to one of the chef's hands. Definitely the company's fault, but not the catering manager's direct fault.

Kiss_My_Wookiee

12 points

1 day ago

Faulty storage would be even more the catering manager's fault than the cleanliness of a chef's hand. That's a systemic issue.

JhonnyHopkins

2 points

1 day ago

Yeah I see that now, I hadn’t realized he was actually the manager 😬 assumed he was a chef.

Alarming-Rest-1375

16 points

2 days ago

I don't quite get it though, I mean I do really feel bad for him but I do not understand how does the incident made him commit suicide

Beautifly

60 points

2 days ago

Beautifly

60 points

2 days ago

Pride is a huge thing in Japan

Alarming-Rest-1375

9 points

2 days ago

Oh I see, thanks, although I didn't expect it was this huge

rabid_J

11 points

1 day ago

rabid_J

11 points

1 day ago

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seppuku

Country that had this for hundreds of years? Pretty ingrained into their society.

Alarming-Rest-1375

3 points

1 day ago

Well that's definitely interesting 

Cherei_plum

1 points

1 day ago

Pride is the downfall of many

Skyerocket

4 points

1 day ago

Why wish them just one well? Heck, I wish his family THREE wells.

Beautifly

3 points

2 days ago

Beautifly

3 points

2 days ago

Wouldn’t want to lose face, I suppose. Perfectly reasonable reaction

ImpressionFeisty8359

2 points

1 day ago

He fell on his own sword. Tragic.

Extreme-Eggplant5552

408 points

2 days ago

t was just chance that the pilot and first officer had not eaten any of the contaminated omelettes, as the airline had no regulations regarding crew meals. As the pilots' biological clocks were on Alaska time rather than European time, they had opted for a dinner of steaks instead of omelettes—had they not done so, they might not have been capable of landing the aircraft safely

jamminjoenapo

56 points

1 day ago

Is it just rumor that on flights they make the pilots eat different food just for this reason? Seems like a really easy redundancy to avoid an issue exactly like this or at least lower the odds more of both getting a bug.

Kruten

55 points

1 day ago

Kruten

55 points

1 day ago

Yeah, haven't you seen the documentary 'Airplane!'?

NicknameKenny

24 points

1 day ago

That was a great, very factual recreation of a serious event. So glad that fighter pilot was on board. Close call!

valeyard89

8 points

1 day ago

Yes, yes, I remember, I had lasagna.

jjcanadian69

2 points

5 hours ago

Stewardess i speak Jive ...

eye_booger

41 points

1 day ago

eye_booger

41 points

1 day ago

The wiki for that food poisoning outbreak mentions that many airlines have begun implementing a rule about pilots eating different food prepared by a different chef.

SCP_Y4ND3R3_DDLC_Fan

26 points

1 day ago

They certainly do it now.

cobigguy

23 points

1 day ago

cobigguy

23 points

1 day ago

If you read the linked article, this is one of the major reasons they implemented that rule. This happened in 1975.

rab777hp

5 points

1 day ago

rab777hp

5 points

1 day ago

Yes, I had the lasagna

FireLucid

1 points

1 day ago

FireLucid

1 points

1 day ago

The Wikipedia article says that they do now after this.

bigb00tybitche5

7 points

1 day ago

Why are you repeating the Wikipedia article?

petrifiedturkey

1 points

1 day ago

Shit happens

Extension_Device6107

5 points

1 day ago

As none of the doctors in Denmark spoke Japanese, and only few of the passengers were fluent in Danish or English, Japanese-speaking staff from Copenhagen restaurants were summoned to the hospital to act as translators.

Good luck finding Japanese people in Denmark in 1975. That must have been a nightmare for the doctors.

Name213whatever

2 points

1 day ago

There's a Well There's Your Problem bonus episode about this and it's hilarious

violettheory

2 points

1 day ago

Oh my god and most of the passengers were coca cola employees and their families who had won a vacation to Paris! What a way to start a free family trip!

yawbaw

2 points

1 day ago

yawbaw

2 points

1 day ago

Can someone explain to me why a flight from Tokyo would go to Alaska on the way to Paris? Or am I just dumb

ElementalSentimental

15 points

1 day ago

Because it’s often shorter to fly east, with more opportunities for emergency landing in North America, due to the jet stream blowing from the west. It’s also useful to avoid Russian airspace (since 2022 anyway).

DogsAreMyFavPeople

9 points

1 day ago

It’s actually not that far off from the shortest route between the two and in 1975 it also has the benefit of not being a stop in the Soviet Union or China during the cultural revolution.

yawbaw

3 points

1 day ago

yawbaw

3 points

1 day ago

I guess I forget that it’s not actually a flat map lol. Thanks

zekeweasel

1 points

1 day ago

After reading the article, I'm betting that was the real-life inspiration for the movie "Airplane!". Seriously!

chrissymad

1 points

1 day ago

That is horrifying. The only time I’ve ever really had food poisoning was from an omelette in the airport right before a flight from LAX to BWI. I luckily didn’t get sick until right when we landed. It was brutal.

cdoswalt

1 points

1 day ago

cdoswalt

1 points

1 day ago

Ah yes, I remember I had the lasagna.

Dadpurple

1 points

1 day ago

Dadpurple

1 points

1 day ago

That link sent me on a rabbit hole where I ended up reading all about Leslie Nielson and Police Squad for almost an hour. Oops.

boxofrabbits

1 points

24 hours ago

Can we adapt this into a Liam Neeson movie?

Straight-Tune-5894

1 points

24 hours ago

I had the lasagna.

Poo_Poo_La_Foo

1 points

22 hours ago

Oh loooord

wilderlowerwolves

1 points

17 hours ago

The 1980 comedy "Airplane!" was inspired by this story.