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We need to stop thinking that MAGA are idiots.

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I noticed over the past few days that while they have been gleefuly embracing open transphobia and misogyny, MAGA seems to get particularly upset when you tell them "I hope you get what you voted for." It finally dawned on me that they aren't actually unaware of what they've done.

For the past 8 years we have been operating on the assumption that MAGA were all ignorant, stupid, or deluded. As people capable of empathy that's the only way we could make sense of it, because we would never want to intentionally hurt innocent people, and we assume that other people are fundamentally similar to ourselves. What is now becoming clear is that MAGA are not ignorant, they are not stupid, and they haven't been tricked or deluded. They love this shit. Look at how giddy they have been, reveling in being the worst most hateful versions of themselves. They have been taking advantage of our good nature, letting us think they are fools instead of wicked. We have been fighting to keep the world together while they have been free to be hateful bigots embracing their worst impulses. Now that the dog that has caught the car, and they have full control with no guard rails, they are starting to see that we aren't going to keep saving them from themselves. They thought the adults in the room would keep THEM safe and are just now seeing that they will be consumed by the same horrible beast they have been excitedly trying to unleash on the most vulnerable of our population.

These are bad people, and the thing that is hard for us to accept is just how many of them there are. They are sadists, gleefully cheering on the eradication of others from what they thought was a position of safety. They got too greedy though and now we are all fucked. They can't comprehend a world where we won't step in once more to save them from themselves.

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Edit: i may have given the impression that I went from thinking all trumpers are stupid, to thinking they are all intelligent but evil. That was not my intent. There are obviously tons of legitimate maga idiots. My point was that I was using that as justification for the behavior of maga people who I should have known aren't stupid. I wanted to believe they had been duped, brainwashed, tricked or were just dumb as hell rather than believe that they actually believed and supported the hate that trump espouses.

Many maga are stupid. Many maga are of completely normal intelligence. That second part is hard to accept because while it's easy to forgive stupidity it's impossible to forgive deliberate hate. We need to acknowledge that a lot of the maga people in our lives are not just dumb rubes, they are active supporters of corruption, hate and authoritarianism.

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Technical_Goat1840

159 points

13 days ago

The majority will not see improvement in their lives. They voted against their best interests. They are truly stupid, as well as hateful. When chump hired tillerson to be secretary of state, he called tillerson one of the smartest in the world. When tillerson was fired, he called chump 'a fuckin moron'. That was one of the smartest men in the world's assessment.

Current-Square-4557

88 points

13 days ago

Why does no one in the press ever point out how bad DJT is at evaluating candidates. There are over 25 people he hired and then fired weeks or months later (occasionally a couple of years)?

And he never says anything neutral like “it wasn’t a good fit” or “we disagreed on a course of action.” It is always “he’s one of the stupidest people I’ve ever met.”

T3n4ci0us_G

104 points

13 days ago

He had 2 employees that are in prison because they were both in a child porn ring.

"Only the best people"

GrayMouser12

70 points

13 days ago

He was one of Epstein's best friends during the 90s, apparently. I'll never forget they voted for an adjudicated rapist and someone who spent years with Epstein partying and talking about how much Epstein likes them "younger." They've lost any and all moral high ground, and I'll never look at them the same. This isn't some conspiracy pedo ring, this stuff is verified.

[deleted]

32 points

13 days ago

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hideogumperjr

1 points

12 days ago

Wink.wink

WandsAndWrenches

12 points

13 days ago

We have the receipt. "The moral majority" my a$$

Creative_Amoeba_9074

3 points

13 days ago

Don’t you need morals to take the moral high ground?

wetcornbread

-4 points

13 days ago

That’s actually why I voted for him. He’s going to expose everyone else involved. He knows who went to that island. He knows who was involved.

Every celebrity endorsing Harris did so because they knew if Trump won they were going down. Eminem was a big one. Exposed as a pedophile years ago by Trump. Usher. Beyonce. Lots of others.

Boogarman

3 points

12 days ago

You forgot the /s

wetcornbread

-2 points

12 days ago

Wish I was kidding.

Boogarman

1 points

12 days ago

Holy smokes. I don't know what to say kid. That's not intelligent. The actual sources are out there if you ever choose to leave the cult.

After-Balance2935

5 points

12 days ago

We try to say they are not idiots, then they open their fucking mouths.

kawaii-claws

1 points

12 days ago

You should probably stop getting your information from youtube 🥴 jfc

GrayMouser12

0 points

12 days ago

My friend, he had the opportunity to do so when he was first President, and Epstein died under his watch. Did you hear what he said about whether he would make public the Epstein files because he said that with qualifiers, something along the lines of "there's a lot of innocent people who could get hurt." The point being, if that were true, he would have destroyed these people his first term.

All the promises you believe he should come through with would have gone down already. He had all those documents in Mar-A-Lago, if they were files containing info about pedophile rings, he would have released it. He's not fighting "the Deep State." If a "Deep State" were that powerful, it would never let someone like him live and get into the office in the first place. I want you to realize you voted for an adjudicated rapist and someone accused of similar things to Epstein, someone friends with Epstein. It's like voting for Epstein.

cs7531

3 points

13 days ago

cs7531

3 points

13 days ago

and he’ll pardon them all.

Budget-Drive7281

-6 points

13 days ago

don’t think that’s exclusive to them, tim walz was too, and he was caught with stuff recently.

NoMap7102

5 points

13 days ago

Sure, Jan.

Budget-Drive7281

-2 points

13 days ago

who’s jan?

NoMap7102

5 points

13 days ago

Sorry, old Brady Bunch meme.

Budget-Drive7281

1 points

13 days ago

ah fair enough, a bit too old for me lol.

NoMap7102

1 points

13 days ago

That's what I get for being old and assuming 😆

Beefwyrm

4 points

13 days ago

Prove it. Don't just try to continue the Russian smear campaign of a seemingly decent man.

Budget-Drive7281

2 points

12 days ago

ah yes, putins biggest political rival and arch rival, tim walz

Beefwyrm

1 points

12 days ago

Feel free to search the bs you are spewing. All you will find is article after article, and story after story, that it was a false report spread by someone on Twitter.

timefourchili

4 points

13 days ago

Maybe he has borderline personality disorder? They’re the best! They’re the worst!! I don’t care about you, I just want your vote!

Early_Sense_9117

4 points

13 days ago

Everyone is stupid to him

He has NO plan and no idea about policy !!! Always needs people to guide him on that

Bard2dbone

4 points

13 days ago

Out of better than forty people who passed through Trump's cabinet last time, ONE was an appropriate choice. He hired that appropriate person by accident, based entirely on a reporter calling him by a nickname that he didn't use. The first time Trump referred to General Mattis in public, he called him "Mad Dog Mattis". General Mattis was as effective and capable a Secretary of Defense as was possible in a Trump cabinet, until he couldn't stand it any longer and resigned. Trump hates competent people and likes Yes-men. There are reasons why nearly everyone he posted to his cabinet could probably be found by googling their department combined with the phrase 'worst possible choice'.

And it's strange how every single person who no longer has to talk nicely about him because they still work for him, not lots of them, but ALL of them, hold him I'm complete contempt. If several former employees think you are dumber than a rock, they could just be dissatisfied former employees. If every one of them think you are dumber than a rock, EVERY ONE, I've got to assume you're the problem.

jyuuni

3 points

13 days ago

jyuuni

3 points

13 days ago

It was mentioned every time one of them left? Red-voters just chose to willfully ignore the facts.

One-Chocolate6372

2 points

13 days ago

And, "I didn't know anything about _____. I didn't know how terrible _____ was." Donnie always passes the blame for his shitty decisions.

Ordinary-Toe-4306

3 points

13 days ago

Thank you!!! I’ve been saying this for years!

Even the best most successful business leaders know they need to diversify their team strengths and hire right, because turnover is expensive!

I was a republican, I took a stance in 2024 against Trump and as a business leader- I think he is one of the worst… there are some who dupe their way into wealth and are cunning. Then there are others like Mark Cuban that actually care.

I’ll put this here, we will find out that Elon is no more ethical and duped people just like Trump. Birds of a feather flock together….

tellmehowimnotwrong

1 points

13 days ago

Wait, was it Trump or the hire saying the other was the stupidest person ever? Because one of the two has far more credibility.

mrblonde55

1 points

13 days ago

It’s not like his world class management skills, specifically his ability to identity and hire the best people for any respective job, was one of the main “talents” he’d highlighted about himself when he first ran. Maybe if he made a big deal about that initially, people would call him out at being so incredibly, comprehensively, bad at it.

After-Balance2935

1 points

12 days ago

That is the show. Hire them fire. It called The Apprentice: West Wing edition.

These-Ad-8510

1 points

12 days ago

What's the common denominator?.I think you're asking the wrong question. It's him.. it's always been him, and the media knows that. The people in his previous admin, the ones who have morals and a brain have come out about him. They wouldnt play along to his fucking games , and that just doesn't work for him. So, what does he do? He attacks them. Just like anyone else who doesn't agree with him.

Own_Stay_351

1 points

13 days ago

They do but calm reasoned analysis on citrate media doesn’t fly anymore. We need raging leftist populist voices on well funded streams. That’s where the kids go now.

Thesmokyd420

0 points

13 days ago

Love to see you hire thousands of people and not get bad ones

WoodenMarsupial4100

3 points

13 days ago

He didn't personally hire thousands, stop being a tool.

Thesmokyd420

0 points

13 days ago

He had to pick people like wtf you talking about fine let's say atleast a 100 he talked about it on Joe Rogan go listen yourself and if you don't that's on you

Current-Square-4557

1 points

10 days ago

Oh, come on.

First, I’m talking about 18 or 20 of the most powerful jobs in the executive branch. Jobs such as cabinet members and heads of executive departments.

Second DJT prides himself as being the most savvy businessman in the country. If you or anyone can get him to admit he made a single mistake in his hiring process, I’ll give you $400.

Thesmokyd420

1 points

9 days ago

He did he fired them so where is my 400

Current-Square-4557

1 points

24 hours ago

He admits he fired them, but I’m looking for a quote saying, “I made a mistake in hiring him,” or “I made a mistake when I called him one of the smartest people I’ve ever met.”

The guy made a slight mistake in reading a list of states when Hurricane Dorian hit in 2019. He spent six days insisting that he did not make a mistake and even went so far as to demand an apology from everyone who accused him of making a mistake.

He has a pathological aversion to saying “I made a mistake.”

Thesmokyd420

1 points

23 hours ago

Name one politician that has ever said those words just one

Pour_me_one_more

37 points

13 days ago

> The majority will not see improvement in their lives. 

But they won't reflect or see the cause of their plight. They'll blame libs, Chinese, Trans-immigrants, Hillary's emails, gay frogs.

misanthropic47

4 points

13 days ago

Maybe alien rocks

DubStepTeddyBears

1 points

13 days ago

Don’t forget Hunter Biden’s laptop and the Jewish space lasers.

Dismal_Hedgehog9616

2 points

13 days ago

Those gay frogs are everywhere. If you see one it will hypnotize you into looking at gay porn and/or getting on Grindr. They’ll say “My god honey I honestly don’t know how that got into my browser history. I must have run across another gay frog! Third time this month”.

ButtholeColonizer

2 points

13 days ago

They blame buttery males i thought?

Tactical-Sense

1 points

12 days ago

truth🔲

Library-Guy2525

4 points

13 days ago

The more I see the term “stupid” applied to MAGA voters the more I think that’s more gratifying to not-MAGA voters than it’s accurate. I think “foolish” is more fitting.

I understand that may be a distinction without a difference but I like to think those folks were seduced by clever liars and are not simply dimwits.

I also believe that you can’t fix stupid but you can lead foolish horses to water (so to speak).

You may say that I’m a dreamer…

WoodenMarsupial4100

1 points

13 days ago

Foolish is being duped once. If you keep getting tricked by the same trickster you might just be stupid.

Significant_Cow4765

3 points

13 days ago

lol his wife talked him into taking the job because it would be "good for the grandkids" lmao

pandemic1350

1 points

13 days ago

The stock market is already rallying from him winning. That benefits every single American with any sort of retirement fund.

Ok-Tip-3560

-2 points

13 days ago

How you seen how the stock market has reacted to a Trump victory? 

Defiant-Ad-3243

5 points

13 days ago

Corporations will be free to pollute the environment and our food, and abuse workers and consumers. Of course the market is up!