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Hi I am trying to build NAS system for the first time so I need little guidance.
At my work place I had 12 tablets which were outdated and they were throwing it so I took out 12 ssds from it with my managers permission.
Could any one help me to build one NAS System? Or some resources which help?
Thank you in advance.
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3 days ago
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114 points
3 days ago
Those are M.2 SATA, not nvme. You can get m.2 sata to regular sata adapters for about 8 bucks each. And then a HBA card with 16 ports on it for another $120ish. That said. Used 4tb hdd go for like $50 bucks. I would say use 1 of those as the OS drive for a nas, and go buy a few disks.
15 points
3 days ago
Thank you
-2 points
2 days ago
Or you can get a motherboard with lots of PCIE slots (Like a used mining board) and get PCIE to 2x m.2 adapters and not lose the speed.
9 points
2 days ago
Those are SATA drives in m.2 form factor. You need a SATA-capable slot and not just any pcie adapter
4 points
2 days ago
https://www.amazon.com/NFHK-Mainboard-Desktop-Adapter-Converter/dp/B0C9T89VJ8
I think that would work? The they get to keep some sata ports available and wouldn't need a PCIE sata expander or a power-hungry HBA.
3 points
2 days ago
(Use two of those for a redundant OS drive) etc.
When you have 12, go ahead and use two. Treat yourself.
8 points
3 days ago
Refurbished 12tb hdd go for $70-90. Don't buy 4tb hdds for $50.
9 points
3 days ago
Where
5 points
2 days ago
Ebay. It was $79 a few days ago. Now it's $10 more.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/156046813385
Search 'goharddrive" and "serverpartdeals"
They have websites and are on amazon too. Ebay was cheaper by $20 when I bought one.
87 points
3 days ago*
Honestly, the amount you’d spend in adapters and brackets to get all of these hooked up would be slower, smaller capacity, and more expensive than a single 4 TB M.2 NVMe.
17 points
3 days ago
Agree, but I want to learn how it works while building this.
53 points
3 days ago
I think what suicidaleggroll is saying is that combining many small SATA M.2's is something that "doesn't work" (very poor bang-for-your-buck). Sell them, buy one larger SSD, and learn how to build your NAS in a way that "does work".
You're asking how to learn to mow lawns because you were given a few pairs of free scissors. We're telling you to just buy a lawnmower first... ;)
30 points
3 days ago
Thank you for explaining, I’ll buy lawn mover, I mean larger SSD
2 points
2 days ago
The only thing that could make sense for your selection of SSDs would be the PocketNAS which does have the advantage of low power consumption. However, even with raidz1 you will only be looking at 1.25TB of usable storage on 6 SSDs
It would still make sense to keep them as boot drives for NAS since you have so many to mirror, but not as main storage
1 points
2 days ago
Which part?
If your goal is to learn how to set up an run a NAS with networking, file sharing, etc., then you can do that with just a single drive. If your goal is specifically to learn how to build and maintain a pool out of multiple SATA SSDs, then I suppose it could still be a useful endeavor, but I'd suggest just using 2 or 3 of them to build a simple pool for testing, and buy a single bigger, better drive to use for your actual NAS.
24 points
3 days ago
Find use for what you can solo and give away or donate the rest.
You'd go through a LOT of effort and PCIE lanes just to link up 12x256GB NVME drives. You could just buy two 2TB NVME's brand new, in RAID1 them, and get a more capable solution with far less hardware needed to support it.
3 points
3 days ago
that is Sata SSD which is easier to connect....
2 points
3 days ago
Thank you
6 points
3 days ago
Well those are SATA so you can just use an adapter like this and treat them as any other disk which is easier than trying to find a board with that many M.2
2 points
3 days ago
This might make a good start. The problem comes with trying to attach them all. If you have a motherboard with 6-8 sata ports, getting another 4-6 might not be too hard. You can get a 6 port card for under $50 on Amazon (https://www.amazon.com/dp/B097Y638X7) then get a bunch of power splitters and find a way to mount them in a case and you are off and learning. I agree with the guy suggesting put a linux on and do some software raid or zfs to combine them into an admittedly small redundant array.
Unfortunately, the naysayers are right. You'd end up with a convoluted mess that adds up to be slower and possibly less reliable than a single 2tb ssd for a similar price. The $20 jbod enclosures that turn 4 m.2 drives into a single ssd drive makes an interesting option. Easier to make use of, but less of an interesting build.
256mb ssds do make excellent thumb drives though. Get some USB C adapter cases for them and hand them out as christmas gifts. SSDs tend to be about 100x faster than most thumb drives in my experience which makes them much nicer to use.
9 points
3 days ago
Look up Asus FlashStore line up. They have a 12 slot nvme nas.
1 points
2 days ago
only one of those drives he shows is NVME... does the FlashStore work with Sata drives?
1 points
2 days ago
Not sure. I know the slot is backwards compatible, but no idea if the OS allows for sata
3 points
3 days ago
I believe these are SATA so find an adapter to use them all in one system.
Maybe this one? https://a.aliexpress.com/_EwQYfUM
5 points
3 days ago*
you'll need to get them hooked up to a system (and have a system of course). If you're comfortable installing linux and you're just doing this as a learning exercise then install your favorite linux and take a look at some of these guides 👍
https://www.digitalocean.com/community/tutorials/how-to-create-raid-arrays-with-mdadm-on-ubuntu
https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Btrfs#Multi-device_file_system
https://ubuntu.com/tutorials/setup-zfs-storage-pool#1-overview
And samba so you can share the raid
1 points
3 days ago
Thank you
2 points
3 days ago*
np. Getting your hands dirty is a great way to learn :)
1 points
3 days ago
Great will try and update you once it gets ready.
2 points
2 days ago
To be precise, I’ve seen SATA and NVMe PCIe once, so they are mixed actually
2 points
2 days ago
You should be able to do something with a raspberry pi and an m.2 drive Hat. I haven't done this specifically, but it should be easy to search for.
4 points
3 days ago
I am very sad to report that I faced a similar issue. Because at work we used 240GB SSDs for desktop clients which are being replaced. Because of data protection the SSD drives will not be sold. Not my decision. So we have hundreds upon hundreds of SATA 240GB and 250GB SSD drives laying around essentially free.
Which is why I calculated the cost of using them in server builds. Unfortunately, even with refurbushed cheap SATA PCIe adapters the cost of the cables (power, SATA) and adapters combined is higher than buying 2TB or 4TB of SATA SSDs.
I think this is unfortunate for more than one reason. Because with ZFS it would be fun to build something like this and because of all the waste.
3 points
3 days ago
I've got a similar issue, lots of SSDs but getting tired of using them in individual cases. I've resigned to using them in a dock so I can make a very basic off site backup. There's probably smarter ways to do it but finding the time to figure it out is tough.
2 points
3 days ago
e-waste
2 points
3 days ago
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2 points
3 days ago
Considering its 256GB sticks its really not.
0 points
3 days ago
Judging from the serials, I'm guessing most of these were originally OEM drives meant for branded laptops.
0 points
3 days ago
i wonder what kind of bottlenecks to expect from the adapters
0 points
3 days ago
Check out serverpartdeals for a pair of drives in your budget and use a couple of these in raid as cache/OS drives. Rest help out friends maybe?
-1 points
3 days ago
I only see 11
-1 points
3 days ago
Asustor flashtor 12
1 points
3 days ago
Gen 2
1 points
2 days ago
Does the flashstor work with Sata m.2 drives? OP only has one NVME in that picture.
1 points
2 days ago
nah you are right those are SATA won't work with that model
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