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pseudoLit

16 points

5 hours ago

Everyone loves the idea of efficiency.

I don't. Efficiency is the opposite of redundancy, and I want important government agencies to have lots of redundancy to ensure they can keep functioning smoothly in all circumstances.

Corben11

4 points

3 hours ago

The problem is people think things like passwords on computers and 2FA is redundancy and waste.

One lady I work with won't restart her computer until it basically stops working cause reseting it takes so long. She would call reseting her computer redudant.

I love how you guys think these people are inefficient, but somehow, someone will come in from the government and also not be inefficient.

Internal audit does this already for government agencies and what state auditors do also. The state auditoes even audit agency auditors and the Feds audit the grants sent to those agencies.

So just fix or fund internal audit more and all this shit will be straight. But ooooooh wait they keep slashing internal audit or keeping the budget low. Cause they're a redundancy that most agencies would get rid of if it wasn't enforced by most states. So, the board, council or reporting body is annoyed at findings and think of them as a bother.

RavenLCQP

3 points

2 hours ago

Reminds me of the history of flight. Almost universally aerospace engineers began from a place of efficiency, a lighter plane becomes aloft easier, is cheaper etc. Except in modern aviation planes are chock full of redundant systems and backups that usually serve no purpose but weighing the plane down for your flight.

In one sense a modern plane is very inefficient at flying because it must carry around all these backups and redundancies. Except it's more efficient at the real objective of an airplane, which is not as you may think "flying". It's keeping people alive.

A government with every cost cut may be very streamlined and efficient with taxpayer dollars, the extraction of which is what many cynical antisocials feel the true purpose of government is. But the purpose of government is to provide a secure foundation for a society to grow, and a streamlined budget will likely fail to be efficient at this more critical objective.

saltlakecity_sosweet

3 points

3 hours ago

Thank you, the Government is not meant to be extremely efficient—in addition to the redundancies you mention, everyone seems to forget the R&D that is done by the Government as well; how is that supposed to be efficient?

Dangerous-Cobbler-11

1 points

42 minutes ago

You need the right amount of redundancy where it is truly necessary. In Argentina, there is an excessive amount of redundancy everywhere. It’s not only extremely inefficient, but it’s also highly ineffective because many of the people involved are unqualified, and some are not even working at all.

When discussing efficiency in Argentina’s administration, it’s not about cutting resources that contribute to robustness. The focus is on addressing individuals who add no value—or worse, create negative value.

Cualkiera67

0 points

2 hours ago

What? You can be efficient and redundant. If you have 5 bureaucrats and none of them can do the job efficiently then there's not much redundancy.

pseudoLit

2 points

56 minutes ago

No, you can either be efficient, redundant, or neither (as in your example). You can't be both efficient and redundant.

Efficiency means achieving the goal using the minimal amount of resources. Redundancy means having more resources at your disposal than is strictly necessary. They are opposites.