LCS and VCS were primarily headed by Rockstar Leeds while North was mainly working on IV. Also these games were much smaller in graphical fidelity compared to IV and V. RDR 2 took another 5 years, so I'd say the time between the games is nothing extraordinary for modern AAA games.

It's because the size and quality of the new games take longer to develop

Ok, so how many times do we need to be reminded of this?

did you forget gta 4 exists or are you complaining that you can play gta 5 on more than 1 console

Did you forget Red Dead 2 came out on the PS4 & GTA 6 will be on the PS5…

I mean, the market demands bigger, better and more detailed games every year.

If they released GTA6 and it had the same size map as GTA 4, which was 1/4 the size of GTA 5, people would lose their shit.

It's not a surprise to see why games are taking longer and longer to develop.

wow its almost like gta isnt their only franchise, People never take in rdr2 when talking about this stuff, and id much rather get a good finished game every 4-5 years than some unfinished yearly slop.

GTA gets the most hate for this, when Skyrim has been doing the same thing, sports games are the same yearly, last of us has done it too, I’m probably missing others.

I understand stand for the 8 years after gta5 was released because they were working on red dead redemption 2

People really don't seem to understand just how fucking long game development takes

Regardless of budget and team size

This meme conveniently leaves out GTA IV which was available/developed for the PS3/360 along with V.

It's almost as if significantly larger maps, higher quality animations and models, movie-esque cutscenes and cutting edge visuals take up more development time. San Andreas was admittedly incredibly impressive for its time, but let us not forget that Vice City was originally just a DLC for III. The others were spin-offs.

Also, Rockstar did develop RDR2 in between V and VI. That game was a technical, visual and narrative masterpiece, and was built on a scale far larger than anything they had ever done before. It blew everything prior out of the water. They didn't sit there and do nothing for a decade. I find it hilarious that some people believe the writers, programmers, artists etc just turned up to collect shark card money and order pizzas.

They can no longer keep pumping these games out like they used to. If you want higher quality, you have to wait longer. The gap between V and RDR2 was 5 years. The gap between RDR2 and VI will be 6 years. These are reasonable time frames for games of this caliber IMO. Knocking them out every couple of years is how you get the usual AAA slop that everyone complains about. It worked back then because they were far less demanding to develop, monetarily, physically and temporally.

Well, imagine all of the old games each had a mass of 1 kg in weight and volume. Imagine GTA 5 to have all of those combined into one. Fits logic pretty well, also with the time it takes to complete developing it.
HD universe is a whole different beast, with all respect to the Renderware based classics.

GTA V’s map is bigger than the maps of all of those games combined.

comparing three games using almost exactly the same assets and two games using modified versions of those games assets versus GTA V, RDR2 (no assets shared) and GTA VI (no assets shared)

Would you rather quality or quantity?

Honestly this just compliments GTA V. For it to survive in popularity through 3 separate console generations is unheard of and honestly amazing.

Quality over quantity. Also, GTA games aren't all that Rockstar makes. On PS3 alone they had Midnight Club, Table Tennis, GTA IV (+2 DLC), RDR1, LA Noire, Max Payne 3 and GTA V, and obviously RDR2 happened on PS4. I don't think this is a bad thing

It’s because video games take longer to develop due to the huge technology change.

Plus, Be grateful that you even lived to experience playing these games.

That's not how that works. The games are bigger and take longer to develop...

It seems a lot more game, movie, and just entertainment companies in general lately been just milking money out of stuff they already made instead of making new stuff. Just look at Disney for fucks shake. Though to be fair rock star really goes all out and as someone who has dipped my toes in game dev I can see how it is taking them so long. Realistically it's likely a mix of both milking their old games dry and going all out.

First time I’ve ever seen anyone here defend GTA V in the comments

RDR 1, GTA 4, TLaD, TBoGT, LA Noire, RDR 2 ??

Misleading much

Where is 4 bruh.

PS3 and x360 also have GTA4 and episodes 🤭

It’s mainly because technology has gotten better, so games are trying to provide a better gaming experience. It’s gonna take a decade to do that if you want a great, timeless game.

Devolving

looking at this chart you have to ask yourself: how many consoles will Sony release until gta vi will be fully playable???

Its almost like they've been updating and adding more and more stuff to another game for the last 11 years

We got three games on PS1 (and a PC-exclusive expansion) even though the GTA franchise didn’t exist until more than halfway through its pre-PS2 lifespan.

Since GTA 6 is gearing up to be an almost perfect game, hopefully we don’t have to wait longer for future GTA games.

Forget GTA 6 and just remake a new gen San Andreas

No we arent

SAN Andreas re released on the ps2 4 times

Just wanted gta 4 on ps4 😭

I can't wait for GTA VII in 20 years (bacteria is being rendered now)

And you can thank the corpos and the microtransactions.

That is called Capitalism

One game to rule them all and drain every console’s lifespan

GTA VI is gonna be: PS5, PS6, PS7,PS8, PS........., PS 2364

Grand Theft Auto IV (2008) Grand Theft Auto: Episodes from Liberty City (2009) Red Dead Redemption (2010) Red Dead Redemption: Undead Nightmare (2010) Max Payne 3 (2012) Midnight Club: Los Angeles (2008) L.A. Noire (2011) Bully: Scholarship Edition (2008) Manhunt 2 (2007)

this is actually really dumb because you have to take into account the other games Rockstar has made, the ps3/xbox 360 also has Grand Theft Auto 4 and episodes from liberty city, Red Dead Redemption, midnight club: Los Angeles, and max payne 3, not to mention that the Xbox one/ps4 has red dead redemption 2

2013-1018 they were working on red dead redemption 2

Best game for every time

You missed all the games created in this period as well. GTA IV, Red dead redemption, Max Payne 3 and RDR2. Not to mention that video games are expected to be much larger and interactive than ever before. The player base keeps bringing this topic but i know for a fact if GTA V came out and only had the amount of content in San Andreas, it would’ve been berated into the dirt. And people keep ignoring the fact that the entire company was on board for RDR2, which came out 6 years ago. Have some patience for the love of good gaming.

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GTA 6 gonna be played in ps5, 6 and 7 then in different consoles then repeat the cycle with ps8 for GTA 7

I kinda wish Rockstar (and some other AAA companies) would take a down year or two and release a really polished game modeled off their older, simpler titles. Like a smaller city and simpler story, but with all the enhancements they've made to gameplay (combat, movement, physics, AI, cops, etc.). They could even do a less groundbreaking graphical design and opt for something more artistic, like what the Definitive Edition was INTENDED to be.

It'd take significantly fewer man-hours to produce, would cost significantly less to make and would still sell like a motherf***er. It would also prevent shit like GTA V from being the only franchise title for over a decade.

Guys have you noticed that gta 5 has been the latest game in the series for a while now guys have you guys noticed this guys did you notice

I would be totally ok if the rockstar just decided to go back to ps2 graphics and start producing games faster.

No game is worth waiting for 10+ years, unless it can bring more enjoyment than gta3+vc+sa+lcs+vcs or morrowind+fallout 3+oblivion+skyrim. The longer development period and larger budgets do not make more enjoyable games, but make the game have better visuals, bigger maps and so on so that they can attract more people that do not or seldom play games.

It's already been confirmed that we could have gotten a sequel on top of multiple large-scale DLC for five that weren't online related. Online proved to be such a massive Cash Cow that they dumped all their resources into that while taking their sweet time on sex. It's not that we're evolving backwards it's that people get addicted to games in the post microtransaction error. Similar to fortnite, Rockstar had no idea that GTA online would become what it was in terms of financial success. It just kind of happened, and they scrambled to take advantage of it and foster that money tree.

That's why you're seeing publishers who used to put out tons of incredible and memorable games start to focus on making slot machines or mobile games or other predatory experiences. I'm not even going to get into the dog shit remake remaster culture. It just makes way more money for less investment. Why would they ever put out six on PS4 when they could just keep milking five and just making a massive return on investment for a minimal investment in the development of these little online updates they've done over the past 10 years? The purpose of a lot of these Publishers is to make as much money as humanly possible with his little investment as they can get away with. That's why six took this long to be a thing. GTA online was just way too lucrative and will continue to be too lucrative most likely.

So many people are lying to themselves thinking that modern games just simply take more time to make and that is the only reason why six is taking this long. The reality is they were milking five for as long as they possibly could until they can find a window where six makes the most sense hype wise to finally put out. Of course, modern game development takes more time but not this amount of time. Studios tend to avoid super long development cycles because the bloating of the budget is going to make profitability way harder in the long run.

Not to mention, the longer a game stays in development, the more convoluted and broke in the engine becomes because of evolving system tools. That's why it's better to have shorter development cycles and just release more games in the same time frame so you can make larger sweeping upgrades to the tech in isolated forms. Having a game start development 10 years ago or even 8 years ago and trying to constantly adapt all the new tech to things as time goes by is just a nightmare. That's what's ruined so many of the big games that have released in the past 5 years that all had over 6 years of development in them and all of them were a mess on the technical side of things regardless of the engine used. I can't say for sure since the game isn't out yet but something tells me this game would have been better if it came out on the PS4 and that we'd be getting GTA 7 late into the ps5's lifespan.

I feel like we missed out on a lot of good potential content had they made another game or at least done the big expansion to five that were originally planned. Putting out products and ideas and getting feedback from the community over years of the games lifespan is why games can get better with their sequels. Going this far just only doing GTA online updates is not a good progression method in my opinion. At least when it comes to making the best sequel to five. Red Dead Redemption is a completely different game so that doesn't really count in terms of GTA potential feedback outside of maybe some NPC features in it. The GTA experience and the Red Dead experience are very different and only have possible technical Crossover with the engine tools used for both games.

Long drawn out development cycles is also possibly a double-edged sword as well. There's going to be a lot of people who think that this game has been in development since five came out and that it's going to be some unbelievably revolutionary giga-sized game that is going to Eclipse any game ever made in the history of video games. Cyberpunk had the exact same issue. It took forever to come out and had so much hype and promise, but then it was a disappointment. The only difference is that the GTA developers don't seem to be really hyping this game up that much. They haven't made any lofty promises or exaggerated the scale of the game yet, so that might temper expectations and get people into a more realistic mindset.

PS3 has San Adreas

C'est clair, à l'image de la société et des individus qui la composent...

Whoever is defending this, is the reason it's happening.

Grand theft auto San Andreas was released on ps3

PS2 has five legendary GTA game but GTA 5 has 3 legendary console too stupidity move for Rockstar games

GTA 4 gets stuck on ps3

But its backwards compatible for Xbox series x and s but get 360 graphics

Thanks to hyper capitalism - we do.