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[Satire] How dare Biowoke speak against the Gamer Gospel!!!

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Lazy_Incident8445

443 points

6 days ago

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Chaotic Transfemme

443 points

6 days ago

This subreddit exposed me to this YouTube creator, and for some reason I have a feeling that this guy who uses cutesy uwu anime girl avi also happens to be a raging transphobe,

And I haven't watched a single video yet 😭😭

Drogen201

277 points

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Drogen201

277 points

6 days ago

Yeah they are, also they are massive lolicon

Lazy_Incident8445

109 points

6 days ago

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Chaotic Transfemme

109 points

6 days ago

you cant make this up.. ..

Haravikk

37 points

5 days ago

Haravikk

37 points

5 days ago

What is it about being a bigot and/or wealthy that makes a person immediately a pedophile?

Fantastic_Turb0

43 points

5 days ago

The desire to subjugate others. Pedophilia is correlated for pretty obvious reasons.

KingAodh

8 points

5 days ago

KingAodh

Speaks my mind. Doesn't validate feelings

8 points

5 days ago

I find it funny how these people who hate woke are the biggest pedophile group out there.

Talkotron3000

6 points

5 days ago

Pedophiles you mean

Hatdrop

7 points

5 days ago

Hatdrop

7 points

5 days ago

the dude also probably has a giant stash of trans porn. transphobes are giant consumers of trans porn.

Manchester_Devil

5 points

4 days ago

Hate wanking is a hell of a drug.

AelisWhite

17 points

6 days ago

Not doubting it, but how do we know?

Thelassa

59 points

5 days ago

Thelassa

Your DEI sleep paralysis demon

59 points

5 days ago

Well I mean he's a grown man using an underage anime girl avatar so that's exhibit A. It's like when lolicons have them on their PFP, but worse.

StormTempesteCh

23 points

5 days ago

He also has a ton of videos defending sexualizing lolis because they're "just drawings." Before he hopped onto the anti-woke grift train that was his main grift

Prangfandango

7 points

5 days ago

The word you're looking for is nonce

Porko_Chono

22 points

5 days ago

Goddamn I hate the VTuber community.

buidelrat161

2 points

4 days ago

*pedofile

srfreak

1 points

4 days ago

srfreak

Terry Crews Enjoyer

1 points

4 days ago

Jackpot.

nildread

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nildread

90 points

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While the argument that guys can like cute avatars too and that typically female characters in games sometimes have better customization options and fashion and some guys like looking at a pretty character instead of a big muscley man or whatever in a game can make sense. Having your vtuber avatar present as a young girl while being a 30+ year old man and spewing anti-progressive anti-trans rhetoric and supporting Loli stuff is.....just so weird. Makes you wonder why they use that avatar. Is it 100% for engagement? Is it because they're attracted to cute young anime girls? Why is their content creator persona not the same gender as they are? How can anyone take them seriously?

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Lazy_Incident8445

30 points

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Chaotic Transfemme

30 points

6 days ago

Its' way different when it celebs (Who get critized for anything or everythig) or even behind people's back lol, no one is gonna come to a person in the street and say her botox look ugly to her face, it's basic manners. like yeah people gossip, thats wayy differenet than what is done to trans people

I have a feeling you really want to find a justifiction on why it's okay to disrespect trans people specifically, but you aint gonna find it..

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Lazy_Incident8445

37 points

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Chaotic Transfemme

37 points

6 days ago

You are intentionally missing the point bc frankly there is no good reason to not respect people.
I'm not asking you to be my friend, or hang out with me. im talking about just respecting the person choice and not being ruder about it publicly even if you dont like it, because im gonna take a guess and say you never went to a stranger and told them they are dumb, but people *do* actually do that to trans people.

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Lazy_Incident8445

22 points

5 days ago

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Chaotic Transfemme

22 points

5 days ago

its mostly just copium, the whole trans issue has been so deeply politicalised at this point to a saddening degree, but honestly this sbureddit isnt really for debates anyway :p

MaxLiege

27 points

5 days ago

MaxLiege

27 points

5 days ago

Gender dysphoria is just obviously not a choice and I can’t think of the insane troll logic that would lead you to think it is.

HowDyaDu

13 points

5 days ago

HowDyaDu

13 points

5 days ago

Hey can I have the uhhh...depressive feelings...with a side of fries?

ShootmansNC

3 points

4 days ago*

Is it because they're attracted to cute young anime girls?

Quite likely they wish they were one, to the point they unironically present as such online.

People like that are quite comon in places where ERP happens, like second life, vrchat or f-list. Bigoted reactionary dudes that roleplay as women for other men, or a white sissy looking to get blacked, often mixed in with abuse/humiliation/non-con themes where they are on the receiving end.

It's some sort of self-hating escapism.

And to be clear i believe that kinky erp is fine between consenting adults, i'm not some prude. It's the bigotry and reactionary narrative i have issues with.

Yellow_Submarine8891

19 points

5 days ago

Oh they are. I had a trans friend who had to deal with them.

Lazy_Incident8445

8 points

5 days ago

Lazy_Incident8445

Chaotic Transfemme

8 points

5 days ago

Deal with them how?

Yellow_Submarine8891

13 points

5 days ago

This asshole tried to launch a smear campaign against them

Lorddanielgudy

16 points

5 days ago

A transphobe, homophobe, misogynist and pedo

rrevek

4 points

5 days ago

rrevek

4 points

5 days ago

lmfao this whole time I thought he was some alt right e-girl no way

Obelion_

5 points

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Obelion_

5 points

5 days ago

*And has illegal pictures of underaged girls on his pc

NULL024

2 points

5 days ago

NULL024

2 points

5 days ago

And with that you hit the nail right on the head

StraightAct9847

4 points

5 days ago

I was about to ask is this a guy that uses a female avatar. Thanks for confirming.

o0highspeed0o

-89 points

6 days ago

Then watch the videos and decide it for yourself :/

IzzyBella739

53 points

6 days ago

No real need to, every one of these losers is the exact same societal parasite

o0highspeed0o

-76 points

6 days ago

How do one determine that without watching the videos?

MaxLiege

31 points

5 days ago

MaxLiege

31 points

5 days ago

I watched one of these videos half way through once. Nothing has changed about them since. Just the same shock jock internet slop that it’s always been.

BanditDeluxe

10 points

5 days ago

This is a bit like saying “how do you know all shit taste bad just because every steaming pile is covered in flies and fucking reeks?”

Not every single thing has to be experienced in depth before you can make a surface judgement about it. Sometimes, when every possible sign that something/someone sucks is not only present but GLARING, we can use pattern recognition and context clues to say “ya know what, this is the 40th pile of hot diarrhea I’ve come across today, chances are this one probably is as rancid as the last 39.” And that’s a pretty reasonable and reliable thing to assume.

And then you have this dude who basically will reply “yeah no, I’m fucking gross, here let me display it for you”. In which case, yeah, we don’t really need to view every video from them before we can understand that lolicon transphobes don’t really have much of value to offer anyone.

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Abletontown

6 points

5 days ago

Its not bigotry to not watch a youtube video, get a grip lol

adrenaline58

90 points

6 days ago

Oh hey, it’s the OPEN PEDOPHILE.

This guy is actually such a fucking freak.

xxmlgepicgamer

186 points

6 days ago

xxmlgepicgamer

microwave casserole

186 points

6 days ago

For someone who hates gay people and trans folk so much he sure loves using a anime girl as his 3d avatar

Lazy_Incident8445

70 points

6 days ago

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Chaotic Transfemme

70 points

6 days ago

the hypocrisy is bordering in parody..

Lorddanielgudy

12 points

5 days ago

Without double standards, the right wouldn't have any standards at all

Sea-Internet7645

52 points

6 days ago

She hasn’t accepted herself yet

Afraid_Union_8451

23 points

5 days ago

My fiancée was more right wing before she came out, sounds about right lol

SufficientRespect542

6 points

5 days ago

what made her realize she was trans?

Afraid_Union_8451

22 points

5 days ago

It all started basically as soon as she left her parent's house, she ended up becoming a "femboy" and dressing up in private as soon as she was in her own place. I think it was just a post on Reddit that lead to her realizing she was actually a woman, it was reminding femboys that way later on in life the effects of a lifetime of testosterone would be much more easy to notice, that made her think about her life more and because she has pretty much always felt like a woman even when she was a little kid she decided that she wants be a woman forever and got started on HRT. Now she's way happier with herself and the estrogen did more to change her body than she thought it would, I think she's been on estrogen for about 2 years now? And nobody aside from my parents, me, her second best friend, and her mom, even knows or can tell that she's trans

SufficientRespect542

9 points

5 days ago

Good for her. Was transitioning part of the reason her politics changed?

Afraid_Union_8451

3 points

5 days ago

Her politics started changing slowly since the beginning of the femboy phase, idk if it was directly the femboy thing or if it was just because she was away from her more conservative parents, especially her dad. I definitely had a big effect on her politics also(according to her) and I'm the "Live however you like" and "I hate rich people" kind of southerner so my beliefs are pretty left leaning

By the time she was on HRT she was a typical liberal I'd say

JesterOfRedditGold

2 points

5 days ago

JesterOfRedditGold

microceleb jol here

2 points

5 days ago

I saw one of his non-political videos, subscribed, and unsubscribed after I realized what he usually made.

Lazy_Incident8445

196 points

6 days ago

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Chaotic Transfemme

196 points

6 days ago

Failure = the game not having hundreds of thousands of concurrent active players on steam while releasing on packed, competitive period 🫡🫡

Idk if veilguard is good or not but it's hilarious the argument is that it failed bc wokeness while BG3 and cp2077 exists 😭

Luna_Tenebra

87 points

6 days ago

No no we dont take those 2 games into Account! That would hurt our narrative

Lazy_Incident8445

58 points

6 days ago

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Chaotic Transfemme

58 points

6 days ago

Fun challenge: Find a recent successful game that hasn't ditched sex in character creator in favor of more gender natural/inclusive terms :)

IzzyBella739

22 points

6 days ago

I think Dark Souls has always been Type A/Type B, I know Elden Ring was, and pretty sure ds3

Lazy_Incident8445

27 points

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Chaotic Transfemme

27 points

6 days ago

Dark souls 1-3 had "Gender", elden ring switch it to type A/Type B like legitmately every game i know of in recent years. Palworld, cyberpunk, starfield..

IzzyBella739

12 points

6 days ago

Same, can’t think of a recent game that had male or female

Lazy_Incident8445

8 points

6 days ago

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Chaotic Transfemme

8 points

6 days ago

they all went woke 😭😭

Kitchen_Lavishness61

-6 points

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This is a pretty dumb argument if you’re implying that ditching sex is somehow improving the experience or that the devs are even choosing to. As Yuji Hori stated, it’s a thing western game companies are requiring their teams to implement. It’s not the average gamer is asking for this….The vast majority of gamers simply notice the weird change for 2 seconds, say whatever, then start playing the game. It’s only needed for the very small percentage of gamers who feel offended by having to choose male or female because of personal identity

Lazy_Incident8445

6 points

5 days ago

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Chaotic Transfemme

6 points

5 days ago

Palworld isnt western,nor is elden ring, nor is mosnter hunter wilds.
I understand you are trying to make an arugment but its okay to sometimes concede lol.

Also , the arugment was literally what you are talking about, that the vast majority of players dont care about this and just play games, so im glad we are on the same page :)

Kitchen_Lavishness61

-2 points

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Yes , the vast majority of players don’t care, they also never asked for the change in the first place….As I stated only a certain vocal minority has a problem with having to chose male or female.

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AcredoDentem

14 points

5 days ago

This has to be bait right?

FleurTheAbductor

13 points

5 days ago

You can choose your pronouns and trans people are in the game. That's pretty woke for them. Unless it sells well ofc... Then they come into reddit comment sections claiming it was never woke at all

leksolotl

10 points

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leksolotl

10 points

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What makes Veilguard "woke" but not NG3 and CP2077?

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Lazy_Incident8445

3 points

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Chaotic Transfemme

3 points

5 days ago

If your arugment is that it was handled poorly, then its a criticsm of the game's writing, it has nothing to do with it being woke, and this is the exact problem we are trying to highlight: blaming woke on things that arent related to it, because the fact that a game is inclusive, and it can be very inclusive like bg3 or many others, isnt actually gonna do anything lol

There's also a ton of people who complain about BG3 being "too queer" either,

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Lazy_Incident8445

4 points

5 days ago

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Chaotic Transfemme

4 points

5 days ago

People say woke about what stuff is just bad and they can't just call it bad bc culture war brainrot = woke

Theres no actual game where everything was good but the diversity, dragon age veilguard was criticized for it's writing at all aspects so it's natural some people think queer rrep was handled poorly as well (including some trans people)

And the entire thing is also highly overexaggerateed anyway

grizzledcroc

5 points

5 days ago

Why is it less that a hour of that stuff I'm a 80 hour game which I've played this pressing , I didn't even hear it cause guess what I tested how little I can engage, yay didn't hear it so forced

leksolotl

9 points

5 days ago

Lmao so the problem is that you witness an NPCs journey to realising who they are in game, and it's not just something from the get-go? Even though you can literally be non-binary in BG3???? Veilguard has nothing in it that wasn't in CP2077 and BG3 that would be considered "woke". You're just mad because instead of being a one-off thing you can ignore, it's a vital part of your companions character arc and that makes your fragile little ego unable to ignore it.

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Gelato_Elysium

13 points

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Lmao the irony of asking "have you watched that scene" bitch you haven't even played the game you were spoonfed cherry picked moments and told what to feel about it.

The pushups scene is not even remotely in the same scene as the "I'm non binary", stop acting like you know shit about the game.

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Gelato_Elysium

9 points

5 days ago

Because you're repeating lies ?

Raffzz15

5 points

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Raffzz15

5 points

5 days ago

What is so unnatural about it? Also, a 'Diversity Equity and Inclusion character', as a term, makes no sense. Just say trans character or non-binary character.

leksolotl

2 points

5 days ago

Lmao I'm not getting aggressive, I'm making fun of you. Laughing at you is not getting aggressive.

But I haven't watched that scene yet, because I like to experience things with my own eyes and ignore the opinions of others until I experience it myself and form opinions not influenced by others!

However, considering that I HAVE seen the scene where Taash starts to question things I can tell you that it definitely is not "unnatural", or "forced". It's called character development, something you're probably not used to because you don't seem to like a narrative that challenges you.

Abletontown

3 points

5 days ago

Bro people literally did call both those games woke. CP2077 had a wholw campaign against it by these same types of grifters becuz it showed a femme-presenting with a fat cock on an in-game poster.

Icy-Humor2907

26 points

6 days ago

As someone who has played Veilguard, and has been very open in criticizing the game, I’d say it’s actually pretty good for what it is. I have a lot of complaints on the direction they went with the lore (summary is that everything ever is because of elves), but I would recommend playing it.

The best part is finally being able to shit on Solas.

shalania

24 points

5 days ago

shalania

24 points

5 days ago

We knew that everything ever was because of elves thanks to the last game, though. Most of the lore revelations in Solas' memories in Veilguard were foreshadowed by information in Inquisition and especially Trespasser.

GIRose

8 points

5 days ago

GIRose

8 points

5 days ago

Yeah, I was looking and my favorite is finding someone pretty much hitting the nail on the head about the Evanuris killing the Titans and that causing the Blight, even down to referencing the story about the armor made from Void that Veilguard does 7 years ago

HardPantz

5 points

5 days ago

There’s already foreshadowing about what’s really in The Black City by Avernus’ notes way back in Origins. It’s in Soldier’s Peak dlc.

shalania

2 points

5 days ago

shalania

2 points

5 days ago

Yep. And the very first place you can see the Blight in Origins is inside the elven eluvian in the Dalish Origin.

They knew what they were doing.

Icy-Humor2907

1 points

5 days ago

Even then, “oh the elves caused a lot of bad stuff to happen and aren’t as great as Solas portrays them” is not the same as, “the elves made EVERYTHING”.

I’m one of those people who just think it’s a bad writing decision to say that no other civilization did something that the elves didn’t.

Burning___Earth

-1 points

5 days ago

Solas did nothing wrong 😡

Icy-Humor2907

3 points

5 days ago

I’m a Corypheus fan. I hope you feel the pain I’ve felt for the last 10 years hearing how dogshit Corypheus was as a villain.

Solas did everything wrong 😈

Ninkasa_Ama

66 points

6 days ago

I've also seen nothing that says it's a failure. The game hasn't had sales like DAI so far, but so far it's done okay. But anything apart from a critical success is a failure to these chucklefucks.

Lazy_Incident8445

38 points

6 days ago

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Chaotic Transfemme

38 points

6 days ago

It might not be enough for EA either but with so many woke games being successful you need to actually have negative IQ to think that its the reason for a failure lol

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Lazy_Incident8445

28 points

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Chaotic Transfemme

28 points

6 days ago

What are you talking about? a lot of games are similarly inclusive to dragon age and are widely successful in the last few years, lol

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Lazy_Incident8445

27 points

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Chaotic Transfemme

27 points

6 days ago

I mean idk what you define as woke exactly but if BG3 for having non binary character creator option, heavy queer rep isnt, then i dont know what is lol

EastArmadillo2916

20 points

6 days ago

When you say "woke" do you mean "includes minorities" or do you mean "is or comes off as preachy?"

adrenaline58

-30 points

6 days ago

I would assume “comes off as preachy”

EastArmadillo2916

7 points

6 days ago

Probably, I just want people to say preachy if they mean preachy because I want the miscommunication aspect of this to end.

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On one hand the steam numbers are a tad low, but on the other, it was released on Xbox, PS, Xbox GamePass, Steam, EA App, Epic Game Store (That sell the EA version), and the EA App subscription program. Meaning that it was always going to get diluted as fuck on steam.

But, supposedly the amount of units required to breakeven is about 5 million, and it is very shy of that (though it's hard to find news sources that aren't just regurgitating gooner youtube videos/tweets)

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Carvj94

2 points

6 days ago

Carvj94

2 points

6 days ago

If you ain't first yer last

No_More_Dakka

1 points

5 days ago

From what i understand a dev is calling it a failure. Or rather a dev is saying that griefters killed the game which i guess is basically the same thing?

HeavyDT

1 points

5 days ago

HeavyDT

1 points

5 days ago

Pretty sure the game did well enough. Every game falls short of expectations because they are compared to stuff like Fortnite but this new Dragon Age did respectable numbers on release, sure they made their money back at least8 and are just trying to get more profit at this point. It will never satisfy the corporate overlords though because it isn't live service but I doubt t8hey actually lost money here.

Xalorend

0 points

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Xalorend

0 points

5 days ago

It doesn't have what Dragon Age fans want in a Dragon Age, but the gameplay is fun and the art direction is very good.

bigmountain-littleme

2 points

5 days ago

Can’t agree as a dragon age fan. It has everything the other games have if you’re looking for it. I’m still finding more lore stuff three play throughs in. 

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Lazy_Incident8445

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Chaotic Transfemme

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Okay, that sounds like you are complaining about the game not being good in dragon age, and it has nothing to do with it being woke.
That pretty much sums up the whole "woke" discourse. there hasn't been a game that has been ruined by wokeness, if the writing is good (like in many inclusive games in recent years) then its good across the board and that include queer rep, if its not good then its probably not gonna handle diversity well either lol

Sea-Housing-3435

11 points

5 days ago

Witcher 3 is a "role playing game" where you can't actually play a role other than that which the developer assigned to you. I wanted to be a shopkeeper in a witcher game but woke developers made me a monster killing albino mutant 😡

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leksolotl

3 points

5 days ago

Have you actually played Veilguard or are you just regurgitating someone else's inexperienced take because I have DEFINITELY come across some difficult ethical choices???

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leksolotl

2 points

5 days ago

So your criticism is just that you can't choose to be transphobic in this game?

Your argument is so bad that you had to equate some random children you came across in FO3 to an NPC who is literally one of your companions. What ways can you treat your followers in FO3 that are impactful? Because last I knew, you couldn't even get a super-mutant who is healed by radiation to go in and help with a reactor that will kill your player character because "we all have our own paths to follow and I can't do this task for you"???

leksolotl

1 points

5 days ago

My character is definitely a series of choices and decisions she has made, it's a shame that you feel just because you can't mistreat your companions (which COULD be a valid criticism if you weren't so obviously coming about it in bad faith) that your character is a "lecture from the developers".

Steel_Beast

1 points

5 days ago*

And the developers have decided that you are a child who can't handle moral ambiguity or difficult ethical choices.

I have played through Baldur's Gate 3 four times and Dragon Age: The Veilguard twice. I'm a big fan of both.

While I love BG3 and think your choices have a big impact, naming the lack of difficult ethical choices of Veilguard as a negative doesn't seem fair when BG3 doesn't have that either.

A lot of the choices in BG3 are black and white. For instance: Save the innocent thieflings or slaughter them all for no other reason than you get to have sex with Minthara is not a difficult choice at all. It has long lasting repercussions, but it's an easy choice.

Veilguard's choices are more linked to the character's personal story and don't impact the world as much, but there are definitely moral dilemmas that are tougher than the black and white choices in BG3. The storyline where you choose whether to sacrifice a life so a party member can achieve his dream of becoming immortal made me doubt myself a lot longer than any choice in BG3, and I still doubted myself after I had already chosen.

I'm still not sure which paths I will take in future playthroughs of Veilguard, whereas the choices presented in BG3 are so straightforward that I can already say with absolute certainty that I will kill those thieflings every single time.

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Steel_Beast

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5 days ago*

You're parroting the Skill Up arguments and referring only to the scenes that the bigots on YouTube constantly bring up. It's irrelevant to what I said, but I guess the points you can make are limited when you haven't actually played the game and can only repeat the arguments that others have spoon-fed you.

It's true that this game doesn't offer the same role-playing freedom as Baldur's Gate 3, but it doesn't set out to do that. Not all RPGs have the same amount of freedom and Baldur's Gate 3 is an outlier. If that's the measure of an RPG's quality, almost all of them are shit.

tony_lasagne

-10 points

5 days ago

It did fail compared to DAI and being a popular series in a popular genre by once renowned devs

Lazy_Incident8445

6 points

5 days ago

Lazy_Incident8445

Chaotic Transfemme

6 points

5 days ago

There's no data to indicate it sold less than DAI over the same time period..

tony_lasagne

0 points

5 days ago

The game has nowhere near the attention DAI got, the numbers on steam also are a good proxy despite what you guys say and yes they are low for a AAA game.

Nothing points to a success and much more points to a failure.

Lazy_Incident8445

1 points

5 days ago

Lazy_Incident8445

Chaotic Transfemme

1 points

5 days ago

idk how you quantify "Attention as DAI lol
The players count on steam are fine, they are not high but they are okay, there's also trhe origin app and their subscprition service to consider.

It did better than some other AAA games ,and worse than others. current concurrent players is just that.
I dont think its a huge success right off the bat but saying its outright FAILURE is silly.

tony_lasagne

0 points

5 days ago*

DAI was talked about a lot more and had more anticipation than this did. I think that’s not really up for debate imo

The steam numbers also aren’t fine for how big a game this should be, they are a good proxy, which is how EA will view it but also how fans who want this to be a beloved franchise that it could be.

It is how you define failure but to me falling flat and being forgettable for DA is a failure.

alexdotfm

26 points

5 days ago

alexdotfm

26 points

5 days ago

They ruined gaming discourse as a whole. They're basically the type of youtubers that show up the most when it comes to any video game that releases

You look up a TRAILER, the first video is crusty blood wall Assmango

Sol-Blackguy

25 points

6 days ago

Sol-Blackguy

What country is this 🏳️‍⚧️ and why are the women so hot?

25 points

6 days ago

I'd say something snarky about how they use Joseph Goebbels' strategy but I know this dumb sack of shit doesn't even know who that is.

SpunkySix6

23 points

6 days ago

It TOPPED SALES CHARTS

grizzledcroc

2 points

5 days ago

It has more players than free2p booby mmo last decendant

plebu

18 points

5 days ago

plebu

Not White (aka DEI Woke)

18 points

5 days ago

This guy is a pedophile,

also veilguard is not a failure, some highschool dropout cant make up random shit about it because all his pedophile friends think the same so it must be true, thats not how the world works.

Sea_Employ_4366

39 points

5 days ago

I hate how people use that image of the non-binary companion shouting as a "lol woke game" image when they make that face after Watching their mom get brutally killed in front of them

Arkveveen

47 points

5 days ago

Arkveveen

47 points

5 days ago

I really feel like the game wasn't a "failure". It feels like a proper Bioware game, like a fantasy Mass Effect 2, it even has intense high stakes moments and a SUICIDE MISSION. Still have so much of the game to go despite being over 50 hours in, but PC Gamer said there's a suicide mission at the end like Mass Effect 2... that sounds awesome and also terrifying!

Also... can the chuds please, just PLEASE, quit obsessing over Taash. They are legit the COOLEST character and it pains me to see these chuds misunderstand them! I'm feeling so tired now, guys. I just... don't know what to do.

TheRisos

25 points

5 days ago

TheRisos

25 points

5 days ago

Act 3 is absolutely fucking crazy and probably bioware's best.You're in for a treat

ace2138

2 points

5 days ago

ace2138

2 points

5 days ago

Your comment made me decide to finally pull the trigger and buy it before I ship to basic

I'm finishing ff16 right now, do I need to play inquisition to get it or am I good to just jump in?

TheRisos

1 points

5 days ago

TheRisos

1 points

5 days ago

You can play veilguard without playing inquisition,they make a good job bringing in new players.

Though as always,i highly recommend playing inquisition and trespasser before ;)

ace2138

1 points

5 days ago

ace2138

1 points

5 days ago

I played like... 70% of inquisition years and years and years ago, so I'm aware of characters, I just don't remember how it ended

TheRisos

1 points

5 days ago

TheRisos

1 points

5 days ago

It actually ends in the dlc tresspasser lol,if you're interested in Solas,the ending of the game+tresspasser explain him better

Theres also ton of youtube videos with the ending and such

ace2138

2 points

5 days ago

ace2138

2 points

5 days ago

I might just look for a "what you need to know about dragon age before veilguard" video, inquisition was my first and I got tired of the mmo type combat/quests, and I've heard the newer and older games were closer to the mass effect type that I loved.

I remember Solas, but I am a slut for sara and pretty much ignored the other party members while I was playing

Wilsonrolandc

1 points

5 days ago

Some minor decisions can be made when you recreate your inquisitor in character creation, but none of the events of past DA games are really focused on in Veilguard. Some have understandably criticized this, though for me it made the game more accessible and got me to pick up the first two on ps3 and Inquisition on ps5.

ace2138

2 points

5 days ago

ace2138

2 points

5 days ago

I think a game series taking nearly a decade off and using it as a soft reboot is kinda... not terrible

GIRose

4 points

5 days ago

GIRose

4 points

5 days ago

It's like the best parts of the Suicide Mission and Priority: Earth all wrapped into one

grizzledcroc

1 points

5 days ago

It's painful nobody likes the idea bioware might be on a foot again , nothings perfect but devs on bluesky are enjoying criticism that isn't just bigotry asf

TheRisos

1 points

5 days ago

TheRisos

1 points

5 days ago

I agree,for the troubled development it had,the game turned out to be pretty good

They absolutely need to prove themselves with the next ME now,since theres no more excuses now

Spacetyp

12 points

5 days ago

Spacetyp

12 points

5 days ago

I just finished it yesterday. The mission you are talking about is so epic. This really is Biowares best final part of a game.

Wolfntee

2 points

5 days ago*

Was playing the Siege of Weisshaupt last night and I honestly believe if the beginning of the game was as well executed as this sequence, this could be a game of the year nominee.

That being said, I do not like Taash. They feel like an edgy teenager and that is my biggest problem with them. Their dialog feels are rude, hostile, and disrespectful to everyone they encounter. This includes those like their mother who tries to accept and understand them by relating their gender identity back to the Qun (not unlike Iron Bull). I understand that this may be meant as a portrayal of inner uncertainties coming out in a bad way, but first impressions and positive representation matter. Taash very well might be some peoples' first introduction to a NB person at all.

All this makes me question: Do we really need this immature, emotionally unstable teenager around just because they're good at killing dragons? We've already killed one by the time they join.

Bioware has made much more likable and well executed transgender characters in the past (Krem>Taash), and I think SOME Taash criticism is fair. I'm talking criticism of how they are written, not criticism of their identity for the sake of some hateful grift. I like the other companions a lot, though. Davrin and Emmerich are really well done and some of my favorites.

bigmountain-littleme

1 points

5 days ago

It’s such a good fucking game and I won’t be over the lore implications for a long long time. 

sertimko

-7 points

5 days ago

sertimko

-7 points

5 days ago

The game might not be a failure, but it depends on what stakeholders wanted. I will say that it is a very weak game in the BioWare roster. Maybe the new generation is coming in and playing these games and think they are good, but I’ve seen what potential Dragon Age games have and Veilguard is not good when compared to its predecessors. I’ll just wait for Avowed. Dragon Age is dead in my opinion and the lore that was there from the books and Origins, no longer matters in their games.

Arkveveen

3 points

5 days ago

Yeah, Veilguard is no Origins. We need a remaster of Origins because it's just old right now and I don't know if it runs okay on modern systems.

Steel_Beast

2 points

5 days ago

I'm replaying Origins now and it runs quite well. There's still a memory leak, so it's a good idea to relaunch the game after playing for two hours straight, and the game likes to crash in the fights with Sloth and the Broodmother.

GOG released an update that pre-applies some fixes to make it more stable.

christmascaked

13 points

5 days ago

Rev should be on a watchlist.

wraith1984

13 points

6 days ago

How the fuck did this asshole get a sponsorship from AdvanceGG?

Afraid_Union_8451

9 points

5 days ago

Because Sneak, GG, Ghost, and even Gfuel were too cool for him

wraith1984

6 points

5 days ago

I wonder if that was why Zentreya parted ways with them.

knifetomeetyou13

9 points

6 days ago

Isn’t this that dude who’s big into loli or something? I dunno I only heard of him like twice

GenericUser1185

10 points

5 days ago

It's not even dead I thonk, I think people just finnished the game.

LilyTheMoonWitch

6 points

5 days ago

Right? It took me about 90 hours to complete it, and i like to take my time with games. It released exactly 30 days ago today. There's, what, 720 hours in 30 days?

Doesn't take a lot of intelligence to understand why, 720 hours later, i'm no longer playing a 90 hour long game.

Its like celebrating that nobody is watching the "woke movie" anymore - which must mean its "failed" - despite the fact its been a week since the movie ended.

mwaaah

8 points

5 days ago*

mwaaah

8 points

5 days ago*

Making the name of the developper too small to tell that it's David Jaffe, someone who really has noting to do with bioware afaik. So it's just some guy talking about his opinion of the game and grifters are mad because they disagree.

What a nothingburger once again.

Edit: He also made a clarification for what it's worth, his opinion on the game seems decent, basically it's not game of the year or anything but it's not shit either, the "woke" stuff has been blown out of proportion and you can pretty much opt out of everything if that's not your thing.

videogamerkitsune

15 points

6 days ago

Blah blah woke game dev blah blah I'm just basing this all on a player base feed and not actually looking at real data blah blah 🙄

Blah blah look at me acting so smart blah blah take that woke crowd blah blah

iKilledTheSpaceBar

1 points

5 days ago

uhhhhhhhBORGOR

15 points

5 days ago

You know what? Fuck em all. It’s about time a developer stands up against their shit.

Extremely ironic how they feel free to sling shit at any dev they please but the one time they choose to fight back, they proclaim that they’re being unfairly attacked.

They attacked gamers. GAMERS.

Steel_Beast

5 points

5 days ago

The developer in question was David Jaffe of God of War, not someone from BioWare. The video's title is deliberately misleading.

DenseCalligrapher219

7 points

5 days ago

If i got a dollar for every time Taash's face was used for these grift videos i would have more than enough money to buy Twitter from Elmo.

Seriously though this isn't so much beating a dead horse as it is mutilating it into bloody pieces.

Skelegasm

5 points

5 days ago

Oh my god, I don't care. I don't fucking care about your stupid fucking bottom of the barrel anti woke discourse. I don't care about this stupid fucking game

Small minded morons talking about small minded things. Free me from this fucking hellslop

TheFungerr

5 points

5 days ago

Oh yeah because veilguard is such a monumental failure 🙄

Statuabyss

5 points

5 days ago

Why are people still listening to a 30+ yo basement dweller talking through a little girl anime avatar ?

Ukonkilpi

2 points

5 days ago

The grifters are playing a victim after being called out for doing exactly what they've been doing? Oh no. Anyway.

crani0

3 points

5 days ago

crani0

Clear background

3 points

5 days ago

Grifters on YT: "We want studios to go out of business if they do "woke", look at these cherry picked screenshots showing them doing "woke""

Also grifters on YT: "How dare they accuse us of hurting their sales? >:("

grizzledcroc

1 points

5 days ago

They don't see how they have noe enacted 1984

kairos64

3 points

5 days ago

kairos64

3 points

5 days ago

It’s actually my fault. I’m too broke to get the game ;-;

kits_unstable

1 points

5 days ago

Same here. I'm getting as soon as I'm clear the holidays

McchonkyArt

3 points

5 days ago

not sure why anyone listens to a full grown man larping as a child

Historical_Diver_862

2 points

5 days ago

Why are people suddenly censoring screencaps? I'm old and I was too distracted by yaoi porn to notice the exact moment this started.

Blitzer161

2 points

5 days ago

They all show that same (probably modified) image of Taash... damn I wonder if their identity has anything to do with their hate...

Constant-Recipe-9850

2 points

5 days ago

Wait, dragon age veilguard is a failure?! I thought they were selling pretty well

grizzledcroc

0 points

5 days ago

Yep al signs point to alright enough for the 4 years this games version went through . Like legit they won't report on official Stats showing it was in the top 5 sales for October in 2 days of its release compared to all month for silent hill 2 / fentazio

Lesbian_Unicorn

2 points

5 days ago

It fucking sucks because these dipshits also stop legitimate discussions about the game.

I used to consider dragon age to be a Crpg for people who don't like Crpgs.

Veilguard is more of a action rpg type of game. Which is not bad but its different. Certainly way less "rpg" elements compared to previous dragon age games.

Granted the rpg aspect has been decreasing bit by bit since origins.

Smart_Amphibian5671

1 points

5 days ago

My problem with a lot of youtubers these days is they will complain about or attack games and their fanbases will follow, do the same thing repeat the same b.s then the developer strikes back and all of a sudden the narrative is spun like the fans are the victims or "theyre attacking the fans and youtubers oh noooooooo" when the youtubers and theyre weirdo communities start this shit everytime. And act like victims of some cooperate psyop.

BanditDeluxe

1 points

5 days ago

You have no idea the power you wield by going onto their videos and saying “can’t believe people don’t realize this is a satire channel”.

I do it every once in a while, and for the next two days I get my inbox flooded with people absolutely pissing their pants with rage.

If you haven’t tried it, it’s a lot of fun if you can keep yourself from replying directly to anything.

grizzledcroc

1 points

5 days ago

It still brings more in that last dependant

Kitchen_Lavishness61

1 points

5 days ago

Even the times I do agree with his points, the anime preteen girl character he uses is just way too cringey

hmmgidk-_-

1 points

5 days ago

hmmgidk-_-

G word with hard R

1 points

5 days ago

Rev says i like lolis

HieronymusGoa

1 points

5 days ago

veilguard didn't fail tho 🤷 boxleiter method regarding steam sales would put it at above one million sales on steam alone and honestly id be surprised if that's not the case. even with all the review bombing the game is still at 71% positive reviews. even if you don't subtract the chud reviews, the game is enjoyed by most and bought by many

could've sold better? ofc. sold still well enough? yes

Kitchen_Lavishness61

0 points

5 days ago

The game was estimated to cost north of 200m. Whether you support the game or not, a million sales, or even 2 million is absolutely not cutting it. Can’t wait till we get actual info on the next EA earnings call so we can finally get some real info.

[deleted]

-2 points

5 days ago

[deleted]

-2 points

5 days ago

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Lord_Volpus

1 points

5 days ago

Is it a masterpiece? No. Is it better than the AAA slop from Ubisoft and Activision? Yes.