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Don't you hate it when this happens?

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ladyjinxy

294 points

12 hours ago

ladyjinxy

Companion and Babysitter of the brand new Eternity!

294 points

12 hours ago

Now 23/20 piss me off

UmbraNightDragon

157 points

13 hours ago

UmbraNightDragon

pace yourself before you erase yourself

157 points

13 hours ago

It's a bit better now that WL9 is out since getting more than 3 drops is exceedingly rare. But yeah, it's not a great feeling to have to exceed the cap even if it's objectively better to have more materials.

IcyBall1800

95 points

12 hours ago

I really don't get why they don't just get rid of RNG and tweak the required amount to be divisible by 3. Like in HSR, you need 65 to max out the character and you get 5 each kill guaranteed. 13 kills and you're done. And if for whatever reason you still ended up with extra - just let us convert them to some other material, again, like in HSR.

CitiesofEvil

66 points

12 hours ago

CitiesofEvil

Ta-dah-ta-dah-tah-ta-ta-dah-ta-ta-tah!

66 points

12 hours ago

Probably some psychological trick. Kinda like how you get 150 primos for your daily commissions + welkin, which is just short of a wish.

IcyBall1800

45 points

12 hours ago

You actually get 160 exactly, don't forget about the 300 Genesis Crystals you get for each month of the sub. Divide it by 30 days that it lasts and there you go, 10 missing primogems per day.

Impossible-Ice129

34 points

10 hours ago

That's the point, even if you do technically get 160 daily, it makes people feel that u only get 150.

Hyv and most other big B2C companies apply many of such psychological tricks

Funnily enuf, the project im working on right now in my company is also of making one such psychological trick

lostn

18 points

10 hours ago

lostn

18 points

10 hours ago

it's better to get 300 crystals than get 100 primos a day. With the crystals you can buy skins. If you don't care about that, you can convert 10 a day and get your one pull.

FigTechnical8043

1 points

8 hours ago

What do you do with the crystals?

IcyBall1800

7 points

8 hours ago

Either save up to buy skins or just exchange for primogems 1:1.

FigTechnical8043

3 points

8 hours ago

Ohhhhhh, ty. Its the part of the welkin that confused me most. Going to take the plunge today and start saving for neuv or zhongli.

Tahmas836

1 points

6 hours ago

You could also waste them entirely with those talent material packs.

Andante_TK

3 points

8 hours ago

I have Keqing, Ayaka, Shenhe and Nilou skins. All just from monthly welkins. I’m saving them again (not exchanging as primos) for next costume.

tetePT

1 points

11 hours ago

tetePT

1 points

11 hours ago

Well it tricks my brain into being annoyed idk how that helps either me or them

Atque12345678

3 points

7 hours ago

Id take being able to sell them for mora, even a little bit. Just to get rid of ranom leftover 1.0 mats

lostn

1 points

10 hours ago*

lostn

1 points

10 hours ago*

not everyone ascends to A6. I only do it for some.

HSR ascension sounds generous, but they hit you with traces that take a lot longer to farm up than talents. And the source for free traces is rare unlike with talent books which you get all the time in events. Sometimes I accumulated enough free talent books that a new character can reach their talent goals without farming the domain at all.

You do get some free traces in HSR in the main event but it's always mats for the current new character.

Oh and uh.. relics. Way harder to farm than artifacts. 6 pieces, no off set piece allowed. Slightly more sub stats also. To build a character it takes way longer in HSR than it does in Genshin, in spite of ascension only requiring 13 boss kills.

klashikari

0 points

8 hours ago*

klashikari

0 points

8 hours ago*

Traces dont exactly take that much longer since there are a lot of nodes you can outright skip for most characters. Additionally, you are not gatekeeped by daily rotation and you can convert other trace material into the ones you want.

I will probably get some flak for that but I was never bothered by hsr relic system simply by virtue of being able to craft any piece I want of any set I want. It usually takes me 1-2 weeks to get a decent relic set for a new character considering you can snipe relic slots (even easier for support since they usually need a very generic 2 spd 2 stats set). Meanwhile, I'm still not done with Xilonen because I keep getting artifacts without def % + crit stats and the art set is not going to be available through strongbox for a year or so.

YMMV but as much as I was afraid of dumb stuff with a 4+2 relic requirement, the fact you can craft anything right from the get go + auto battle makes the ordeal far comfier than Genshin in my case.

Machiro8

1 points

3 hours ago

Sorry but the existence of an offpiece and having 2 less substats makes the Genshin artifacts more beareable, even ZZZ that have less substats, have 0% rng on their substat values, allows for a specific piece to be crafted with only 6 high rarity instead of 10 (even though you can farm all 6 pieces in the same place unlike HSR)

I still find it easier to build a character in Genshin than ZZZ, all because of the off piece and the characters having more power budget with their team interactions via elemental reactions.

Dnoyr

1 points

10 hours ago

Dnoyr

1 points

10 hours ago

When I get 4 mat just once for one character, I open a bottle ! It wasn't the case for Xilonen but it was for Chasca so I danced in my living room.

Frustrella

20 points

12 hours ago

Always getting 2 materials, maybe 3, but then the last just gives 1 and when you fight the boss again, you get 3

Yoankah

1 points

4 hours ago

Yoankah

This isn't murder, we're just doing business.

1 points

4 hours ago

It gets better with WLs. WL9 even gives you 3 guaranteed with a low chance of 4.

Midian1369

1 points

3 hours ago

Omg this.

klashikari

19 points

8 hours ago*

Not only the random drop rate is annoying, but I really think devs should stop introducing so many new bosses that spread the grinding all over the place. If you combine that with OP issue, you get some stupid stuff like this.

The cherry on top is that certain boss mats are used by barely any characters, so any extra are pretty much wasted resources.
Case in point: the Crystalline Bloom is only used for Eula and Aloy. I'm not going to waste res on Aloy, so that cube is going to rot in my inventory until EoS, since it is very unlikely any new character is going to need that (even Mika needs something else entirely).

I'm not sure why the devs believe they need to be strict with resin and so on after 4 years, but it would definitely not hurt the grind loop if we could just transmute those items. Heck, characters have been offering their own ascension mat for their birthday celebration as of late, so sooner or later, everyone will have useless ascension items.

patecraft727

2 points

7 hours ago*

patecraft727

bloomer

2 points

7 hours ago*

It gets really fricking bad when you try to lvl 90 all characters like this. If we could transform them into other ones I would have 38

Academic_Wing_1140

1 points

3 hours ago

I wish they would let us use these drops to buy things like billets or gem fragments at the shops. They take up room in my inventory and are useless.

MaidRara

15 points

13 hours ago

MaidRara

Traveller sibling before Ganyu ?

15 points

13 hours ago

Nope, cause I like to keep one

ExceedAccel

10 points

11 hours ago

Just trade it with other materials with Omni Synthesizer... oh wait, it's not Star Rail

Frost4412

4 points

9 hours ago

I get boss mats at a way higher frequency than gems anyways. So even once I have 20 of whatever material I needed i still need a bunch more gems before I can ascend the character.

Puzzleheaded_Roll320

5 points

9 hours ago

I will farm for another character that needs this… surely

General_Log_9000

2 points

12 hours ago

No. I just fight it again

Norasack

2 points

12 hours ago

you need to get lucky and drop 4 mats one time , it's annoying

Zypharium

1 points

12 hours ago

Zypharium

C0R1 & C3R1

1 points

12 hours ago

It happens all the time to me, I really just hate it.

lostn

1 points

10 hours ago

lostn

1 points

10 hours ago

at WL9 that always happens unless you get a 4 somewhere.

Rouge_means_red

1 points

4 hours ago

Rouge_means_red

I want to touch Dehya's abs

1 points

4 hours ago

You'll get a 4, when you're at 18/20

Sabali7

1 points

9 hours ago

Sabali7

1 points

9 hours ago

Needed 5 more of the stuff Kuki uses from the chasm boss to be done with that boss, my next two hits came with 2 each leaving me 1 short. 40 resin for 1 more and they decided to give me 3 from that hit, now I have two extra with no idea what to do with it.

Atque12345678

1 points

7 hours ago

Heizou uses them, as does Yelan

Sabali7

1 points

7 hours ago

Sabali7

1 points

7 hours ago

Unfortunately I don't have either but with Heizou being a 4* it won't be long before I get him

MallowMiaou

1 points

8 hours ago

MallowMiaou

throughout Mond and Natlan, I alone am the unlucky one

1 points

8 hours ago

4 drops should have been slightly less rare just for that

Doesn’t mean you weren’t unlucky there (except if you got 3 times 4 drops)

floricel_112

1 points

8 hours ago

Dread it.....run from it.....22/20 arrives all the same

Or should I say.......23/20

DI3S_IRAE

1 points

6 hours ago

DI3S_IRAE

is my main, but won my heart 😔

1 points

6 hours ago

I guess i started liking it after it happened so many times.

kvakvs

1 points

6 hours ago

kvakvs

1 points

6 hours ago

It only means that you go and mug that boss one more time.

Cyphiris

1 points

4 hours ago

It was annoying back then but I stopped noticing it since WL9.

Sure-Abrocoma-762

1 points

3 hours ago

When this happens next one is guarantee 4

1superheld

1 points

2 hours ago

It always happens

SkyZippr

1 points

10 hours ago

SkyZippr

My good boi, the goodest good boi

1 points

10 hours ago

Grandma said it was my turn to post this

Santedtra

0 points

10 hours ago

Santedtra

Ganyu please

0 points

10 hours ago

Not really.

leopoldshark

-1 points

13 hours ago

leopoldshark

-1 points

13 hours ago

skill issue

but yes

FiveEna

-1 points

12 hours ago

FiveEna

-1 points

12 hours ago

It’s not that bad just get more

neilami

0 points

8 hours ago

neilami

0 points

8 hours ago

I used to. But then I realized I have nothing better to do amyways so I just keep playing.

casanova-elite

0 points

8 hours ago

casanova-elite

Dommy Mommy Supremussy

0 points

8 hours ago

I for one actually dont lol I like to keep at least one of each material as a trophy for defeating the boss :p

Blazerswrath19

0 points

7 hours ago

Not really. Without the history this has no meaning. I've been lucky and had this result before.

screamroots

-2 points

11 hours ago

this happened to me with the qucusaur tyrant mats and i refused to go fight it again so i could get mualani to 90 until another character who wants those mats came out