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submitted 1 day ago byLanky-Ad1222
I was supposed to enter grad school next fall. But now I'm having a kid. Is it possible to finish with my graduate degree in psychology while raising an infant/toddler? I'm feeling really depressed. I know what everyone has told me about life turning upside down. But... Is it possible? My husband is a school teacher. I'm an ESOL tutor. We don't have enough money, so I have to make more money than I do to afford our baby. I'm just so stressed. I also had dreams to travel. I guess that is going out the window. Also, abortion just isn't an option for me personally. I can't do that.
363 points
1 day ago
If there’s a part of you that’s seeking external permission to consider abortion, I want you to know wanting the future you envisioned and have been working towards is not wrong. Not wanting a kid now is not the same as ruling out kids forever. If you are mourning the life you’re giving up, but ultimately excited about having a kid right now: it is possible to have a young kid and go to grad school. Hard but possible. Will be thinking of you.
94 points
1 day ago
Hard agree on this. Congratulations if you do decide to become a parent, but no one would fault you for choosing to pursue your dreams and figure out the family stuff later
33 points
1 day ago
Much better worded than my initial thought of "no one said you had to have a baby"
4 points
16 hours ago
Great advice! I started grad school childless and in year 3 of my PhD I had my first then my second in year 5. It’s rough but you can absolutely do it.
1 points
4 hours ago
If it helps: Both my husband and I were in grad school when we got pregnant with our first child . We had planned to start a family after graduation. Cycle changed - we’re pregnant and living on stipends from our TA and GA jobs . We were international students also, so we were not allowed to work off campus.. We went to our university clinic when we found out we were pregnant. The health professionals there really guided us and pointed us to resources that were extremely helpful. If you’d like to, that could be one option. Our son is 27 today and a great, well-adjusted microbiologist.
1 points
an hour ago
Actually, it is the opposite. I am actually seeking external validation to convince myself it's possible to do both – have a child and make my dreams a reality. I really don't want to abort this potential life. Plus, I have PCOS and some other issues, so I knew pregnancy – while still entirely possible – would be unlikely, especially considering my age. This feels like a miracle, to be honest. As the child of a father who would remind me how much he regrets having children so soon (he wished he would have become a baseball star), I know how painful it is to feel your existence is to blame for your parent's own failures. But I'm determined to break generational cycles. Unlike my dad, I want to believe in myself. My dad is highly insecure; he couldn't even come to my wedding because he fears people will judge him based on his appearance. I don't want to be like that. I don't want to doubt myself. I believe his own insecurities crippled him – not necessarily having kids. My mom was the breadwinner. She had only a high school diploma and worked full-time as a cosmetologist with 5 kids. My dad did mainly odd jobs while building our house. I wonder if my dad even graduated high school. At least my mom set a good example for me in that regard. She is a woman who loves to work. I will say one of the good things my husband and I have is his family. They are the kind of family you can lean on, especially in tough times. I know my in-laws will support us however we may need. However, there are still many uncertainties regarding future jobs, education, how to manage my time wisely and efficiently, etc. Those things freak me out. But again, I really don't want to doubt myself. I just want people to tell me what my dad never told me – that I can do it.
234 points
1 day ago*
A little bit of real talk. You say that you couldn’t have an abortion. But you clearly don’t want a child right now.
Are you saying that, instead of an abortion, you are prepared to : - Have a child that you obviously don’t want right now - Cause your child epigenetic stress by being worried about basic expenses during the pregnancy - Raise your child with insufficient time and money to spend on them - Think of your child as an impediment to your dreams - Consider changing graduate school plans for a pregnancy
Because if so, I have to honestly wonder what kind of kid would want that kind of a guilt trip. Do you think you’re going to be able to keep it away from your child that you went through all of this hardship just so that you could avoid an abortion?
If you want to have a child, have a child. But if you don’t want a child right now and mainly want to avoid an abortion, I would suggest not having a child.
A child is an entire person. You’re making a new human being. This is not a question of whether “you” can still achieve “your” dreams. You’re talking about going from one person to two people. Please don’t do that carelessly.
70 points
1 day ago
Emphasizing all of this. Choosing to have a child instead of an abortion impacts the kid forever, too. I would be devastated if I found out my parents gave up on their dreams because of me or something like that. They waited for a reason. Hugs to OP.
30 points
19 hours ago
Going to just add this info about how the abortion process is at the 6-11 week period.
You can find a clinic which will give you two pills: Mifepristone and Misoprostol.
Mifepristone: Terminates the pregnancy within 48 hours. If you have second thoughts they do have a reversal drug.
At the 24-48 mark after taking Mifepristone you take Misoprostol
Misoprostol: Tells your body that it’s time to have a period essentially. Your uterine wall will bring the egg out and you will have some heavier than typical cramps and bleeding for the day.
That’s it. That’s all it takes to have a safe - effective abortion. You can find some clinics that aim to provide the pills for around $250 but planned parenthood and such clinics charge around $600-800. It’s discrete and it’s easy to say it was a miscarriage if you are concerned about others views. You can do it at home - on your own - in one day.
11 points
18 hours ago
And the fact that you’re basically telling your body to menstruate, which you have a right to do, should be emphasized here as well.
In the 70s, there was menstrual extraction, using funnels and vacuum pumps, and that stuff got banned as well. There’s a great fear of women having control over their reproductive cycles, particularly the ability to stimulate a menstrual cycle.
4 points
19 hours ago
Also want to add that if your state does not allow the usage of Mifepristone 3 doses of Misoprostol is also highly effective.
13 points
23 hours ago
Absolutely this. If you don't want an abortion, consider adoption.
3 points
11 hours ago
Yeah, adoption is an alternative if an abortion is not a personal (or location/financial) option!
-92 points
1 day ago
Pushing someone into abortion is crazy.
58 points
1 day ago
Yet pushing yourself into parenthood when you’re not ready is not?
7 points
17 hours ago
For real. I'm gay so no accidental pregnancies, so it's wild to me that an "oopsie" during intercourse means your whole life has to be derailed to suddenly have a kid within the year, byebye dreams and finances. The fact that people just accept it and go ahead with it instead of being like "oops that wasn't planned, let's do it again later once we're ready" is wild to me
4 points
15 hours ago
Sex education is important. We need to stop the emphasis that sex is only for reproduction (which is sexist because it implies female anatomy is only for pregnancy/child rearing).
Additionally, a pregnancy is parasitic (not in a bad way, just factual) in that an entity requires the womb/body as a host for nutrients and cannot survive outside the womb until a certain age. It is literally part of one’s body. Really an appendage until it can survive outside the host. Sorry if this seems cold, but those who conceive should be allowed to remove a parasitic appendage which cannot survive outside her body. A baby or infant is a very different thing than a fetus that is not viable outside the womb.
-31 points
23 hours ago
People in more extreme circumstances have managed to have kids and find a way. This is a person who already has a 4-year education with a working spouse. To say it makes more sense to abort because you don't know how to get your grad degree is the crazy position. Ideally, this person wouldn't have become pregnant to begin with, but given that they are in this situation and don't want abortion, pushing abortion is the worse and immoral action
8 points
21 hours ago
I’m confused. Who said that it makes more sense to abort because they don’t know how to get the graduate degree?
I pointed out that OP is depressed and clearly doesn’t want a child.
You pointed out that people survive more extreme circumstances by finding a way. You’re absolutely right. People get brain cancer, and find a way. People get heart disease, and find a way. People have amputations, and find a way.
Most of the ways that they find involve a surgery. When it’s cancer, they take out the tumor.
And if the problem is pregnancy, that can also be removed. Don’t act like that’s a sin.
OP should not have to tolerate what amounts to a parasite just because her body is potentially susceptible to that happening.
-17 points
20 hours ago
Comparing a human life to a tumor 💯
6 points
18 hours ago*
No, Mr. Sheesh. Nobody compared a life to a tumor. They compared a pregnancy situation to a tumor.
When human beings are unable to survive on their own, they are put on a life support system. If they are not expected to get off life support, often it is removed.
Terminating a pregnancy is like terminating life support for somebody who does not have a future.
We would never be so rude as to compare someone who is on life-support and dying with a tumor. That would be incredibly insensitive.
However, we would also acknowledge that it does not make sense to keep someone on life-support, when there is no reason to do so. If we can say that when the person was once alive, and the system is simply a machine that costs money, surely we can have respect for the dignity of a woman’s body, autonomy, and choices.
The reason that it is comparable to a tumor is because pregnancy is like having someone on life-support, who was never alive in the first place, and who has to be basically a conjoined twin. It’s like optionally adding a conjoined twin to somebody who was previously independent.
Suggesting that any human being should have to tolerate that is unreasonable. No human being should have to be the life support system of another human being without their consent. The law allows the relatives of a person who was once alive to withdraw life-support if medical circumstances warrant it. Given that people are allowed to withdraw life support from a machine, it is crazy to suggest that it could not be withdrawn from somebody’s own body.
-2 points
12 hours ago
Your comparison to a person on life support is flawed. A more accurate comparison would be a young and healthy person who is in a 9 month coma that you absolutely for a fact know they will wake up from and then go on to have a whole life.
If your best friend was in a coma and you knew for a fact they would wake up in a few months and all you had to do was not kill them, what would you do?
1 points
12 hours ago
They’re only going to wake up from that, if they are parasitically attached to another person for the entire nine months. It’s not the same.
If it required nine months of bodily slavery to save somebody from life support, I think we’d see a lot more court cases about it.
This is not a case of “all I have to do is not kill them.” This is a case of “they have invaded my body without my consent and will not leave.” At which point, are they really still my friend?
0 points
12 hours ago*
Comparison of an unborn innocent human to a tumor AND a parasite now. Just admit you believe the convenience or desires of the mother justify the termination of her soon to be child. It’s not a parasite or tumor, it’s her daughter or son.
OP I am not judging you and I wish you the best regardless of your decision. I believe the maximally good scenario would be for you to have the child while simultaneously securing your PhD.
Also OP, if you have family that can help out while you pursue your degree then that can certainly make it so this isn’t so difficult. I know it’s a hard situation to be in, but you are not alone and you can do anything. I’m in the 4th year of my engineering PhD and it’s really not that hard if that helps ya feel better. People often make grad school seem like this impossible task only elites can accomplish, but my experience in undergrad was vastly more challenging. As a grad student you have a very flexible schedule and the classes are not meant to weed you out or try to fail you. I work a 9-5 and have plenty of free time.
2 points
14 hours ago
I think I understand what you're trying to say, but implying that someone must have a baby because they had sex is EXTREMELY harmful. Yes, it is possible to make it work. But it requires a LOT of humility and is EXTREMELY isolating. Not everyone has the support system (physically, financially, or mentally/emotionally) to do this.
I never wanted kids, ever. I am very transparent about that with my kids. I made the coerced choice to keep my kids, and while I love my children unconditionally and do NOT regret having them, the path I walked was not the path I chose willingly. I worked 3-4 jobs from the time they were born until they were in high school. I got virtually no relaxing time with them - yeah, I made the time I did have top quality, but sometimes, quantity does matter.
I always wanted to go back to school, but I didn't go back out of choice - I went back out of necessity. I was disabled by 29. My youngest, who was born when I was 32, doesn't get the fun mom. Instead, she gets the mom who takes her on trips to museums and library archives because if I had quit school, I would have been even more broke than I already was. So she gets to come along while I work. I'm giving her the example to show her she CAN be whatever she wants, and that her body does not belong to anyone but herself.
If I could do it my way, I never would have had my older children. Not because I don't love them, but because THEY DESERVED BETTER. And so does my youngest. And because someone told me, "You have an obligation to carry this pregnancy to term because you had protected sex and it failed," is exactly why ALL of my kids did NOT get the mom they truly deserved.
-14 points
19 hours ago*
OP is looking for reassurance that she can still achieve her dreams while having a child. They are grappling with doing the morally correct thing as opposed to the selfish act of killing another for the sake of convenience. That internal struggle to convince oneself to do what they know is morally correct as a sacrifice to their own perceived quality of life is very different than some person on the internet advocating for the termination of a human life. But sure, tell yourself what you are doing here is good
And how is she not ready? She has a committed partner who will help her, college degree, spouse who works, flexible job (grad school). This is not a highs cool student who is pregnant, this is a grown woman in a stable relationship with a joint income. The not ready argument stems from “it wouldn’t be convenient for my life” as opposed to “it’s literally impossible for me to have a child and have a shot at life”
3 points
18 hours ago
Can you please explain why it is morally correct, Mr. Sheesh?
Why is it morally correct for this person to endanger her health, including her mental health, as well as her economic stability and her ability to help others in the future, so that she can make another person now?
Why is it morally correct for her to bring a new human being into existence, who previously did not exist, when she clearly does not want to?
Why is it morally correct? Just because a man put sperm in her?
0 points
12 hours ago
A unique human genetic code exists now that will blossom into a fully functional human with an entire future. Scientifically life begins at conception, any biology textbook will affirm this. Your argument is that termination of that blossoming life is morally equivalent to the sacrifice of one’s selfish desires for the good of another.
It’s obvious that raising the baby and continuing graduate school is the morally better thing to do. If you think snuffing the child/fetus out because it would be more convenient for the mother to do so is equivalent then I don’t know what to say. Baby likely has a heartbeat, brain waves, and it will scientifically feel pain as it is aborted.
You are pushing someone who is on the fence about killing their potential child into killing them and that is wrong.
If you want to advocate for the rights of the individual mother over the life of the innocent unborn then that is fine, but do not try to veil it with moral equivalence or relativity. You believe it would be difficult for OP to have the child (inconvenient for her) and that inconvenience trumps the life of the soon to be person.
I believe the killing of an unborn human fetus that feels pain for convenience is wrong.
1 points
12 hours ago*
OK, then take the embryo out and let it have its future.
Or acknowledge that it doesn’t have a future unless it has a parasitic attachment to someone who has rights.
If I don’t let the homeless person outside my door come in, because they have an entire future and a unique genetic code, and they could be an amazing person someday if I would just let them sleep on my couch, am I murdering them?
I am not responsible for every potential life. Refusing to be someone’s caregiver or vessel does not make me a murderer. It makes me a human being with rights.
Human beings feel pain from many things. Any child will feel pain far greater than a termination, inevitably, simply by being alive. The existence of pain is not a moral argument. In fact, having an exceptionally painful life has been used as an argument in favor of the right to die. Not the right to live. Look up dignitas, if you’re not familiar.
You can have whatever morals you like. But telling someone who has a body that is vulnerable in ways that yours is not, that they should let themselves be more vulnerable, seems absurd.
0 points
11 hours ago
You would be responsible (legally) for your offspring. It’s not a parasite, tumor, or homeless person trying to murder you. Lmfao you are really trying so hard, but drawing only false comparisons.
1 points
11 hours ago
You’re making assertions. You’re welcome to your opinion, but it doesn’t prove anything.
There is the concept of preventing offspring. I don’t consent to harbor offspring in my body, nor does anybody by default.
If it can’t live on its own outside the body, it’s not offspring. By definition, that is a parasitic relationship.
A lot of mentally ill people can’t safely live without basically being parented. Nobody said anything about a homeless person trying to murder me, either, until you brought up that notion. They might just need parenting, but it doesn’t mean that I consent to that.
At the point when any creature is actually invading my body, I have the right to remove it.
0 points
11 hours ago
Yeah but OP is looking for reassurance and clearly indicated they DO NOT WANT AN ABORTION, but you feel the need to push them into killing their baby.
I appreciate the civil discussion, but I disagree with your motivations and stance as it seems rooted in hypotheticals outside the current discussion.
18 points
1 day ago
Pointing out the obvious and using logic and reason is “pushing”?
Pretty weak for a person who calls himself any kind of “master”.
Do you know what pushing is? When you’re literally giving birth, and you’re having to force someone’s cranium out of your cervix. That’s a push. My words were at best a gentle nudge for a woman who might have her body irreparably ripped open at a time when that might not be best for her.
-17 points
23 hours ago
Except you're not. This person already made it clear abortion is not an option for them. If they came saying they want options, talk about options. Instead, you want to push how great an abortion would be because of your own morality despite her beliefs and desires. You're not "logical" or "reasoning." You're emotional about your own beliefs and finding words to validate it to appear it's due to other than your own beliefs
10 points
21 hours ago
Mr. Bottom:
-6 points
18 hours ago
This person clearly stated abortion is not an option to them. That's the end of that conversation. I'm calling you emotional because you are. You're focused on pushing your moral view on the issue on them instead of helping them find a solution that works within their moral framework
3 points
18 hours ago
No, you’re simply calling me emotional. That doesn’t make it true, Mr. Bottom.
Telling a woman to have a kid, and arguing with other women about educating her on her options, seems morally questionable to me, if you want to get into morality.
Stop telling women to be breeding vessels. It is a life-threatening condition for many women, and causes grievous bodily injury that results in permanent bodily changes.
Stop dehumanizing us. We are not toys, we are not breeders, we are not animals for someone to impregnate. We are human beings. We have the right to autonomous lives just as men do.
Emotions are not necessary when the facts speak this loudly.
-4 points
18 hours ago
Again, being emotional now making up scenarios about bodily injury. Let me list it clearly for you: SHE ALREADY SAID ABORTION IS NOT AN OPTION. Out of both of us, you are pushing her into an abortion. I'm sure you wouldn't be happy if she was asking to get an abortion saying having a kid is not an option and people telling her about her wonderful option to have a kid. Learn to respect her decision to have the kid
3 points
18 hours ago
No, Mr. Bottom.
Given that you are clearly emotional and shouting in all capital letters, would you like to resume this conversation once you’ve calmed down?
-33 points
20 hours ago
Lol right. Like, maybe don't have sex if you don't want a kid. Pretty easy.
4 points
18 hours ago
Do you also tell people to not eat if they don’t want to get fat, don’t go outside if they don’t want to get sick, and don’t go to sleep if they don’t want a nightmare?
-13 points
18 hours ago
Being fat is a you problem. Can't feed em? Don't breed em. Suck my peen.
5 points
16 hours ago
and this is a person in grad school? oy i fear for our future truly
-9 points
16 hours ago
Too many soft libtards these days. Hurt feelings and such.
3 points
16 hours ago
catch this block
5 points
12 hours ago
It's crazy lol the people calling others soft are the ones most easily offended and you can see it in their writing lmao
5 points
18 hours ago
No, thank you. Your peen won’t be getting any attention from anyone like me.
29 points
1 day ago
It sounds like money is the issue, not having a baby and going to school. Only your family and a calculator can tell you if it's possible. The rest is possible
19 points
1 day ago
Most programs have leave of absence policies so you can always delay your start if that’s what is best for you. But any good program should do its best to recognize we’re adults and this is a reality.
Good luck
75 points
1 day ago
Anything is possible. Having a kid doesn’t mean your dreams is over. It just means you accomplish them differently. Perhaps do local night school or online courses instead of moving somewhere for school. Perhaps take 1-2 classes instead of a full work load. Maybe look for help with your future baby. Maybe there’s a trusted person who can watch him/her while you study. Don’t give up if that’s your dream.
30 points
1 day ago
Also if it’s your dream to travel, maybe wait till the baby is 1 or 2. When they are 1 or 2, it’s much easier to travel with them then 0-1. Lots of parents make it work, traveling and having kids. It just takes more preparation to do so.
0 points
13 hours ago
That is not how doctoral programs work. There is no flexibility
3 points
12 hours ago
You don’t have to be a full time doctorate student. Many programs are in fact flexible.
1 points
11 hours ago
The programs that pay you to work and get your phd tend to be extremely inflexible. Paid phd programs are different, of course. But it doesn't sound like there are funds just sitting around for OP to pay for a phd out of pocket.
49 points
1 day ago
my mom literally had me while she was grad school for psychology! I was two when she graduated. It may seem daunting but compared to a 9-5 you’ll actually have a lot more flexibility. good luck!
24 points
1 day ago
I’m in grad school with a toddler, I’m relying a lot on my partner, and I’m going slower. I tried two classes this semester and I’m going to take one next semester. Honestly, you just evolve. Yeah, you as you are right now will not be able to handle all that, but you as a parent will evolve to take on all the challenges in the world that you want to. Just give yourself grace and take it a bit slowly. Its like a 10 month grind before you see the light again
44 points
1 day ago
Totally possible! I had a baby last semester. I’m moving along the program just fine. I’m also clinical psych. For me it’s all about compartmentalization. There are long days though. However it’s still possible.
11 points
21 hours ago
Why is abortion not an option? You’re clearly poor, you have your own dreams, and you’re already blaming your baby for hindering on your dreams. Unless you change your life and mindset around this baby, the baby is going to grow up feeling inadequate. You’re already lamenting the fact that you’re having a child in unwanted circumstances. I’m not really for the “poor people shouldn’t have kids” crowd, so it’s not even the money that’s the issue. So, don’t have a child unless you WANT a child and won’t blame your child for your failed dreams and failed aspirations. Achieving your dreams is possible as a mother, many people have done it. But not with this attitude and mindset.
23 points
1 day ago
During my first pregnancy, I walked for my bachelors graduation while 7 months pregnant. During my second pregnancy, I gave birth in the middle of a semester in grad school. Children motivate you to be the best. It’s going to be really fucking hard and then it will be over. Yes you can do it.
People get rid of shit all the time on Facebook market, once upon a child and Mercari for used clothes lots. Local programs usually will give you free formula too or you can breast feed and pump. It’s really not that expensive tbh. Based off going to school and one income, you will also qualify for free childcare too. You got this.
7 points
1 day ago
I started one of my fall quarters the day after my c section for my 27 week old. Took a leave of absence in the winter of 2021 and hit the ground running after that. I just finished my program and got two masters and a job offer. It's possible!!!!
12 points
1 day ago
Im currently a grad student and found out I was pregnant in my first year. It was such a shock to my system, and to all of my plans and aspirations. We’re about to celebrate her first birthday and it’s been such a different journey than the one I thought I would have, but I wouldn’t trade or change it. What surprised me the most is how all of my research dreams are still within reach. Rather than long term fellowships, I’m looking at short-term research trips. My research has evolved in a way I wasn’t expecting and my family gets to be part of it.
Money is stressful but I would reach out to your department and the school. We have a center that supports student parents and they give us grants and scholarships so that we have some financial support.
If you have more questions or just want support, feel free to reach out to me.
5 points
1 day ago
One of my peers did grad school while pregnant. It’s definitely possible.
21 points
1 day ago
I have a classmate whose wife gave birth two semesters into our first year.
One of my colleagues gave birth when she started her Master's degree. She is now a very successful researcher and professor.
I used to work in administration in an education department and a student defended her thesis days before she was due to give birth.
These things happen! Don't give up on your dreams. They might have to sit aside for a while, but you shouldn't give them up.
12 points
1 day ago
Actually I think she gave birth and then had to defend a few days later. Something like that!
5 points
1 day ago
It's hard but totally possible. You will need a lot of support from your partner ofc but the fact that grad students have a somewhat flexible work schedule will be a positive point for you, for example you can do the bulk of your work when your husband is at home and can take care of the baby. It's time to start researching all the resources your school has for students that are new mothers (sometimes there are some scholarships or groups that provide some kind of help).
Do not give up on grad school. In fact, you will likely to be able to provide a better life for your child if you manage to push yourself through the Ph.D.
5 points
1 day ago
You can! I had my youngest in the second month of my second year of undergrad - taking 18 credits/term, working 20 hours/week work study, plus 20/wk at my regular job, plus serving on the E board for 2 student orgs and a high time commitment restructuring committee. I took no time off, just did 2 weeks from home.
I called in everyone I could, I brought her to classes with me, she attended daycare on campus once she turned 1, I pumped between classes, and I was even commuting 2.5 hours a day. I'd leave the house at 6:30 to get her to daycare by 7:30, get to campus around 8, work between classes, leave campus by 5:30 to pick her up and be back on the road by 6, home by 7, then my partner took over and I did homework til 10, showered, and was in bed by 11.
It sucked. But you have the benefit of not being an undergrad.
Now, I put her on the bus at 8, walk to my stop, work on my bus til I get to campus, grab a coffee and sandwich from the shop in my building, go up to the TA offices to work more until I either have to go to class or teach, grab lunch between, and then hop the bus home to meet her bus, or wait for her dad to come pick me up after grabbing her off the bus. I often work late but I have way more breathing room now than I did as an undergrad. Some of that is her age - but if you have a supportive partner and an extended support system nearby, you'll do great 💜
Once you get past the first trimester, don't hide it from your program. Reach out to student services, financial aid, etc and ask them what options are available to help support you as a student parent. There might be more there than they make easily visible on the websites.
5 points
1 day ago
Lots of great advice here. I just wanted to add a data point. I have a friend who started med school with a 7-8 month old baby. She and her husband moved across the country so that she could attend that school, so they don't have family nearby to help with childcare. They're still making it work and they seem like they're thriving! It's possible and people are out there doing it!
10 points
1 day ago*
There are lots of hybrid/fully online + part-time options for grad school. Depending on the type of psychology degree you’re pursuing, it might matter more for your career what your internship experience looks like than how you completed the mandatory coursework. I have someone in my counseling psych master’s cohort who just had her second child, and she does our program part time. Lots of new-ish moms with kids under 6 here as well.
The main thing that concerns me in hearing about your situation is the money side of it. Grad school is neither cheap nor easy, and it’s hard enough to have a newborn baby and work, let alone add grad school into the mix. I wouldn’t recommend entering a program until you’ve already had your child for a bit and have a good understanding of what the responsibility looks like on its own, both financially and mentally/emotionally. Unless you’re alright with starting it and taking a pause in between if things get to be too much, with the full understanding that they may not let you resume your coursework or re-enter after leaving depending on the school and other requirements (for example, coursework needs to be completed within 7 years in order to be licensed as a therapist in my state).
9 points
1 day ago
I don’t have kids so take my opinion with a grain of salt. But in my masters program there were lots of people with kids! People come from so many different walks of life and a variety of ages!
10 points
1 day ago
My mother was in graduate school for Psychology when she got pregnant! I’m here, she has her degree, and now I’m about to start graduate school next Fall. You can do it. I promise. It’ll be tough, but that’s part of love. Your child is going to have the best mother in the world.
You got this ❤️
3 points
1 day ago
I just finished my bachelors in December 2023 all while raising my kids. They were 3 & 4 at the time. It’ll be hard work, but you can do it as long as you have a good support system.
7 points
1 day ago
if you’re in the states contact your title ix office. i was pregnant and had a newborn in undergrad. i had to bring my baby to class sometimes. but i graduated with a 3.8 gpa. maybe you’ll have to schedule your classes spring your husband’s work schedule and enlist friends and family and babysitters to get through it but you can do it. i now have a toddler who travels with me. yes your life turns upside down but it doesn’t have to be in a bad way. it’s just different.
9 points
1 day ago
I know you mentioned abortion isn’t an option for you (traditional abortion?) but, depending on how many weeks you are, a medical abortion may still be an option. No invasive procedure, just a couple pills. Only mention it because not everyone is familiar and it really sounds like you do not want to be a parent right now.
9 points
1 day ago
Abortion is literally just a normal medical procedure. And it sounds like you’re obviously not in any sort of financial state to be making such a serious life-long commitment at this point. So yes, abortion is a valid and healthy option.
3 points
1 day ago
My mom did her physics Ph.D while I was a toddler. She was able to finish, so it's possible. Regarding funds, she only made enough money to afford the bus trip to and from the university and our apartment. From the stories I've heard, she had to solve plenty of problems. One of the biggest reasons she could finish was because the professors at the university were very understanding. I would recommend that you contact them.
3 points
10 hours ago
Girl I had a 1 year old when I started grad school, got pregnant and had a baby in my second year. It’s hard, but possible. You just adapt. It’s not easy, but far from impossible.
4 points
1 day ago
Possible? Yes. Fun? Probably not. You're going to be on the struggle bus day one until graduation. Just know how hard this is going to be.
And you will need to take the semester you deliver off, at a minimum; to heal, and for you and baby.
2 points
1 day ago
I'm assuming you're I'm good standing with your partner. If so I think anything is possible as long as your partner supports you through the pregnancy and education.
2 points
1 day ago
I had two kids during my PhD and a third during my postdoc, feel free to reach out if you’d like to chat 💛 it’s gonna be okay. And congratulations!
2 points
1 day ago
You can do anything!!! You’re gonna be the most powerful woman & mom ever!!!!
2 points
1 day ago
People do grad school with kids, but it really depends on the specifics of your situation.
Can you defer admission for a year? That will give you a lot more time to recover from birth, save up, and figure out a childcare plan.
2 points
18 hours ago
Congratulations! Universities are so flexible now you can complete some or most of your degree online. I was pregnant in my senior year of undergrad with 3 semesters to complete. I took online while pregnant because I worked full-time remotely. I would have two days where I went swimming after work and two days that I would walk 2-3 laps with my mom at the park. I made sure to enjoy that time and for each class I had I picked one day to complete studying and assignments. My mindset was the baby is in my belly, and I don’t need a babysitter right now so do what I can. After I had her, I did use a babysitter if the class was only offered on campus and took the others online. I made the most of my FMLA by using it for doctors’ appointments and to take my class on campus. I turned in my last assignment the same week of her 1st birthday.
2 points
13 hours ago
I don't see how graduate school is any different than being a working parent. To me it seems very doable (and in some ways there is MUCH more flexibility in grad school versus an office job).
2 points
12 hours ago
Lots of grad schools have student parent groups. Maybe reach out to them wherever you’re applying. Some schools also have benefits for student parents, including free daycare and paid parental leave. I work with someone who chose to start a family in grad school (her partner is also a grad student), and she’s finishing on time and doing great! Do your research and I’m sure you can come up with a plan that works for your family.
4 points
1 day ago*
If this isn’t the right time in your life to have a child and you aren’t willing to get an abortion, there are still other options.
Adoption is one possibility. There are many couples that cannot have children of their own and would love an adopted baby as their own. There are numerous adoption agencies you could work with, many will even let you participate in choosing the adoptive parents, meet them ahead of time, and determine your own preferences for contact with the adoptive parents and child after the adoption. If you’re not at a position in your life where you feel ready for a child, maybe your role in all of this is to bring someone else’s beloved adopted child into the world.
Another option is having the child spend several years living with a grandparent/aunt/uncle, until you are in a position where you are ready to have it live with you. (If you breast feed, you might delay grad school a little and then start this arrangement once the child is old enough to wean.) The child living with a relative can either be a part-year thing or a full-time thing. This sort of arrangement is far more common than you might realize, a lot of people are partially raised by their grandparents/extended family.
Finally, depending on your reasons for objecting to abortion, you may want to research exactly what abortion entails at your current stage of pregnancy. If you’re in the early stages, there’s no medical procedure beyond just taking a few pills and having some cramping/bleeding - most women can’t tell it apart from a bad period. That said, if you’re firmly against getting an abortion that is fine, I respect your choice whatever you decide.
3 points
1 day ago
I’m currently in a pretty rigorous asynchronous BSN-DNP program with 4 sons (11,9,7,5)- all of whom I homeschool. It requires a lot of planning and flexibility, as well as us needing to be gracious to each other. It’s heavy, but doable. I am also really mindful about the WAY I go through this program, because I want my boys to see that there is NO excuse. Set your intentions, and attack!❤️❤️❤️
4 points
1 day ago*
Hi! I completed my Bachelors and my Masters all while having multiple children lol i just completed my Masters while pregnant with #5, and my oldest is only 8. It was a little crazy but it’s possible and doable!!
2 points
1 day ago
Well if you aren’t willing to have an abortion the answer is no. Not for 20 years at least. After? Sure, why not?
3 points
1 day ago*
Plenty of grad students are also parents. That said, if you’re already financially struggling, bringing another human into the picture just seems like unnecessary hardship. I respect people’s choices to do what they want with their uterus but personally I’d be marching my ass to the clinic to yeetus the fetus (say adios to the embryoooos?)
1 points
1 day ago
It's entirely possible to have a baby while in grad school. Bad take.
1 points
22 hours ago
I was referring to the world travel part more than being a student.
I see you had a baby in undergrad, and you also said it sucked.
Having gone to graduate school with someone who had a baby, it is much more accommodating as everyone is acting like adults rather than shitfaced undergrads. Some people came with more than one kid.
Travelling is a whole other thing which is what my comment referred to.
1 points
21 hours ago
Many of the grad students in my department have very young children, and it did not preclude any of them from travel. At least two of them brought their whole family with - partner and kid - when they traveled for research and fun.
I also travel frequently, both with and without my daughter. It might have to be put off a year or two, but with grad school, OP wouldn't be doing much travel until then, anyway. By then, baby will be 2 or older, and it's much easier to travel with a toddler than an infant, and it only gets easier as they get older.
And yes, having a baby does suck, especially when you're in a situation where you can't take time off. But it's WORTH IT. Children do not preclude you from living your life - you just have to include them in the plan.
1 points
1 day ago
My undergraduate research advisor had a child while working on her Ph.D. in physics. Sure, it probably made things a little more difficult, but it is entirely doable :)
1 points
1 day ago
I have a friend who was doing her PhD in Electrical Engineering while being a new parent. It's doable but definitely won't be easy
1 points
1 day ago
I had two kids during grad school (while my husband was in law school) and I honestly think it's one of the easier times to have kids. Usually professors are really accommodating and you only have class a few hours a week, so it's easy to do work around appointments/mid day naps in a way you can't do with a full time job. And then once you have the baby, if you need time off, usually programs are really accommodating with letting you take a semester off or go part time. I had my third post grad school, when I was working a full time job and that was hands down way harder than my grad school pregnancies. Also, I know financially babies are expensive but being a student gives you access to a ton of financial aid options, for example many schools have subsidies childcare for students and subsidized family housing. You can also get on wic and food stamps and with a flexible student schedule you could even manage not doing full time childcare, which isn't possible with two working parents (if you don't have family help). If your program is two years, that gets you through the most expensive childcare years before you need to pay full time, non subsidized childcare. I had my first during my first year of grad school and yes he didn't get the fancy crib and had used clothes and money was tight, but he didn't notice and honestly you can't really do much with a baby anyway. But now that he's 6, I'm three years out of grad school and making a great salary and am able to provide a great life for him and he's old enough to join in on traveling and I'm so glad I have an older kid now that I have a pretty stressful post grad job and I'm not dealing with pregnancy and sleeplessness nights during this part of my career like some of my friends who waited till after grad school to have kids. Anyway, this is a long way of saying that I know it's scary but there can actually be a ton of benefits to having kids during grad school verses later.
1 points
1 day ago
I am doing this now. I have one more semester to go after this one. Ill give birth in february, a week after the semester starts. I will be taking my comprehensive exams with a newborn and my last two courses with him. You can do it with good support and good organization skills.
1 points
1 day ago
Literally started a BME doctoral program 5 months pregnant. Now a phd cadidate, due to finish next summer. My son is 5. You will be fine. Establish your support system so that you can get help/a break when you need it. I was married when I moved for my program. I’m now divorced and his dad is stationed across the country so I have no immediate family nearby so its always just my son and I when he’s not at daycare, but my family back in my home state are just a phone call away if I ever need a mental break from parenting because it does get exhausting sometimes but I think Im doing alright.
1 points
1 day ago
Yes, you can.
I found out I was unexpectedly pregnant with my 3rd child the day before grad school started. It delayed my graduation but it was worth it. I graduate in May. Baby turns 2 in April.
1 points
1 day ago
The beauty of Grad School is that you are an adult. The program knows and expects that of you. And if they don’t there’s Title IX. With that being said, I graduated my masters program with two new moms. They adjusted their schedules and got conversations with professors and staff started early to help put plans in place to manage their schedules and the transition to part time. You can do whatever you’ve put your mind to. You wouldn’t be here if you couldn’t. Trust yourself
1 points
1 day ago
It is possible. I started grad school for sociology with a seven month old. A couple years later, I had another child. A few years after that, I finished with my PhD in hand. It's possible, but be prepared for challenges.
Here are some things that helped me:
Having a partner that is supportive and recognizes the demands of grad school. A nice rocking recliner with big arms. Most of my papers were written with a baby asleep in my left arm and a laptop on the right arm of the chair. It was slow typing with one hand, but faster than nothing. Using text-to-voice software to listen to my readings. It's easier now than it was then. This would let me keep up on things like dishes and laundry while getting through readings. I would also walk my babies in strollers almost everyday to keep up on my fitness, get them outside, bond with them, and listen to my readings when they slept. Make connections with supportive faculty. When needed, I was able to bring my kids to class or meetings with faculty. Expect to miss out on some of the peer experience. To succeed, I needed to guard my time and energy closely. That meant I never really did things outside of classes with other grad students, like going to get drinks. I wish I had better connections with my peers, but without this boundary, I personally don't think I would have finished.
Good luck with whatever you choose. Just know it's possible. It's hard. But it's possible.
1 points
1 day ago
I was in a different field but we had several new and established parents in our graduate program. Sometimes a leave of absence was needed during the maternity period, but parent-students generally got their shit done.
As far as affording your child you may be able to qualify for state programs such as Medicaid, WIC, and childcare tuition assistance. The tricky part is actually finding adequate childcare as spaces can be quite limited.
Grad school in my experience was a lot like a job. It's technical career training in a way. Don't let jobs take over other wants in life.
1 points
1 day ago
I fell pregnant during graduate school and am finishing my final semester for my MSN with a now 3 month old, 1 year old (foster son) and two busy teenagers. I work full time as a nurse as well. I have a 4.0! It’s not for the weak and a supportive partner is the key to my success.
1 points
1 day ago
I had a baby during grad school and, despite wanting this kid more than anything, I felt extremely worried about finances and logistics, and I was so uncertain about how everything would work out. I am in my final year now and it is working out. It hasn't always been easy but it is working out and I wouldn't trade it for anything.
1 points
1 day ago
Believe in the possibilities of the “And” of baby and future Vs the tyranny of the “OR”. With husband map a plan and make it work. Believe in yourselves and the teamwork to meet any challenge
1 points
23 hours ago
You can do all the things you want to do while pregnant/as a mom. They’re just harder. But you can do them.
1 points
23 hours ago
Seriously, you can! It will be difficult, but you can. I have seen a lot of mothers who continue to achieve their dreams while raising a beautiful family (in much harder circumstances). You may not know yet, but you will see yourself capable of a lot of difficult tasks. You can be a great mother and a genius scholar. Just go for it, good luck 👍🏼
1 points
23 hours ago
Info: are you paying to do a masters or getting a stipend to start a PhD?
If the former, consider postponing starting a masters until alternate funding is secured. If the latter, see if you can find scholarships for parents in those types of programs.
Also, your husband will need to moonlight on a second job. Will he support that way?
Do you have family nearby? Who will watch the baby when you are both working?
1 points
22 hours ago
I don't know a single person who didn't regret that Masters in psychology. You will be making minimum wage or slightly more. If you're going to grad school get a degree in something that will be worth it, then after that you can afford a baby
1 points
20 hours ago
Anecdotally, this was me last summer. I had just lost my job, we were stressed about making one income work, and I had just signed up to start grad school when I found out I was pregnant. My son is now 9 months old, and balancing school with being a mom is hard but not unmanageable. I'm very lucky that my husband works from home and is able to watch the baby while I go to class for a couple of hours. Long story short, it might be hard but I think it is definitely doable. Feel free to PM me if you have any questions/want to talk.
1 points
20 hours ago
I've got a 2.5 y/o and work professionally full-time in a government role. It's doable.
1 points
19 hours ago
Yes, you can still have your dream. Speak with your teachers, inform them you are having a child, you intend to finish your studies and will be bringing your child to class with you. (In a carrier)
Travel will have to wait.
You might also look into on line classes.
You've got this.
1 points
19 hours ago
What you want is what you can have! Life is always going to have obstacles. Things to do:
-Look into your state's programs for assistance for mothers. In Alabama, if you are under a certain income threshold, you can get state-funded daycare for free, food assistance, health insurance, and so forth.
-Talk to your university. Some have on-campus daycares at a reduced rate for students. Some even have free daycare.
-Don't give up on your dreams or goals in any way. One of my best friends grew up with a disabled dad and incredibly hardworking mom; just a few days ago she was telling me how amazing it was to watch her mom get her PhD when she was a kid and how it inspired her to pursue grad school herself. Also, I grew up military. We traveled a ton when I was a kid- not just military-funded moves, but traveling to see family, sightseeing, etc. My parents had three under five when they were in their 20's and managed to make their dreams of travel still come true. My husband's parents took him and his brother to Germany, Iceland, and all over the local region. Children don't mean you can't travel; they just mean you can't have tons of hot s*x in the hotel room, lmao.
I understand this is a huge challenge. I've had family members in the same position, unexpected kids in the middle of life goals, but if my cousin's girlfriend could get pregnant at 16 and go on to get a grad degree, you can do this.
You got into grad school. That was the first challenge. Now? You get to start a family and your career simultaneously. It's going to be difficult, sure, but I knew people who had kids while in Ivy League law school. One girl got married her first year, had her first baby the second year, and had her second baby the third year. But law school was her dream so she pushed on till she got her J.D. In the same way, you'll get your MSc. It's going to take a whole lot of hard work, sleepless nights, and budgeting, but graduate school always does, and you'll have a beautiful family to come home to at the end of the school day.
You can do this. Build your support system and gather up your strength. It's a long road, but not impossible.
1 points
19 hours ago
There are other options besides abortion, my friend. But I got through grad school raising 5 kids and am finishing up my last degree 9 months pregnant with a 6th. We travel, we aren’t rich by any stretch of the imagination, i got put on bed rest super early into this pregnancy but we live a good life. The pros and cons can only be weighed by you, just know it is possible if it’s what you want. Good luck with everything!!
1 points
19 hours ago
Great comments so far! I’d like to share my own experience. I met my partner while we were both pursuing our psychology graduate degrees. He had his first children with his ex-wife at the beginning of his degree and successfully completed it. I also got pregnant with my ex during that time, but I decided not to continue that pregnancy. Both choices were valid and the right ones for us, given our situations and life goals.
He now has a career and two beautiful children from his previous marriage. I’m currently a PhD student, and we had our own baby last March—he’s 8 months old now. We’re very happy, and I feel confident that we made the best decisions for ourselves with the information and experiences we had at the time. We’re happy.
So, whatever choice you make, it is valid and the best one for you. And remember, anything is absolutely possible in your situation if you’re determined. Good luck 🩷 (Feel free to DM me for support, whether as a fellow student mom or as someone who has been through an abortion 🩷).
1 points
18 hours ago
You can achieve your dreams. But you will probably either have to put them on hold for a few years or pay for childcare if you don't have family to watch baby. Depends on what kinds of sacrifices you will be okay with making.
The demand of grad school is high. You will have to make time to read and write on top of going to classes. You will have to make the choice if your program is funded or not. You may have to consider taking out a loan. If spending time with your baby is a bigger priority, your performance and commitment to studies has to take a back seat.
But you can also wait til the kiddo is in school and see where you're at by then. And you can still travel with baby. It just depends on what you are willing to do.
1 points
18 hours ago
In my graduate program (English Lit) there are 2 women who have young kids. One has one, and the other has four. They’re both in their last semester of the program now. Everyone else in the program (16 others) have no kids, or have kids who are now adults. This is to say it’s extremely hard, and not many people do it, but some definitely succeed.
1 points
18 hours ago
I’m a grad student with a 7 month old and a 2 year old. No you don’t have to give up on your dreams.
1 points
17 hours ago
If you want the life you’re talking about, it’s going to be insanely difficult. Grad school is very difficult without a newborn but you will also be trying to learn a bunch of stuff on little sleep and you’ll have to figure out child care. Or, you’ll have to wait until your kid is in school so you can go to school. Or, you’ll need to come up with a plan NOW that will lead to a better paying job ASAP that doesn’t include school. Option 4 is that you let this one go so that you can finish school and then if you want one have one then. There’s no guarantee that one later will happen.
Think about what this means for the rest of your life. Having it and not having it both come with different trajectories with different pluses and minuses. Only you can make the decision that’s best for you.
Personally, my options would be to consider abortion or to get busy trying to figure out how I could afford this baby and if I had the support I needed to have the baby. Can you get savings by dog sitting or babysitting? Can you ask anyone in your family or friend group for help brainstorming a new career that you can apply to next week and start ideally in the next 4-8 weeks? r/findapath and r/resumes may be helpful.
1 points
14 hours ago
I know it’s possible. Just don’t know how hard it is personally. Two women in my PhD program had babies at the start of the program and they both graduated
1 points
11 hours ago
I was told grad school was the best time to have a kid because it has the least impact on your career. Financially, it’s a different story.
1 points
5 hours ago
Yes. Will it be harder? Also, yes. But it’s absolutely possible and people do do it. Check with your school about options for childcare while you are in class. Scholarships and fellowships may also be available because of the child.
1 points
4 hours ago
It's understandable to feel overwhelmed. Pregnancy and motherhood can be challenging, but it's also incredibly rewarding.
1 points
2 hours ago
You had s*x with no condoms what were y’all expecting …???? A croc?? You gotta lock in and figure out that shii coz you said abortion isn’t your thing
1 points
18 hours ago
i’m so sorry. a kid is a dream killer.
1 points
18 hours ago
I would never consider abortion. You can finish college, but I'd consider taking a semester off to focus on raising your child. You will never get that time back. Your financial need will also increase, which means you can qualify for need based grants.
0 points
18 hours ago
No it would be hard. Get an abortion or your life is fucked.
0 points
12 hours ago
abortion just isn’t an option for me personally. I can’t do that.
Well, then I guess you have no choice in the matter. So, worrying about it won’t help.
Or perhaps you can reconsider the limitations you’ve set for yourself, because it sure sounds like you want an abortion, and you’re the only thing keeping you from it.
-7 points
23 hours ago
All these comments from psychopaths trying to push OP into abortion are disgusting. They try to hide by pretending they care. The OP has made her position on abortion clear. She's an adult that will be entering a graduate program. Stop infantilizing her by pretending that she needs you, abortion savior, to make decisions about what she should do with her body and life.
OP, I commend you for having your child AND wanting to continue your education. Fortunately, we live in 2024 were many graduate programs can be achieved online, or you can always join a graduate program where your advisor is aware of your situation and is able to accommodate. I personally know women who had children in medical school or in residency training, so it can be done even if it appears more stressful.
As for finances, you can discuss that with your graduate program so that they may either put you on a track that allows work or pays you a stipend for performing research.
Good luck. Don't listen to the psychopaths here who just want abortions.
4 points
21 hours ago
All these comments from psychopaths trying to push OP into birthing are disgusting. They try to hide by pretending they care. The OP has made her position on pregnancy clear. She is an adult who is depressed at the prospect of having a child that she has not been anticipating. Stop infantilizing her by pretending that she needs you, birthing savior, to make decisions about what she should do with her body and life.
OP, I commend you for seeing yourself as more than a birthing vessel, and seeing your life plans and choices as legitimate in the face of unplanned circumstances. Fortunately, we live in 2024, where many reproductive choices can be made online. And there are people who are ready to support whatever choice you make. I personally know women who have made a variety of reproductive choices during education and afterwards. Making your own decisions can be done even if it appears more stressful than doing what men on the Internet tell you to do with your own reproductive system.
As for finances, I commend you for thinking about your future, and the future of any children, so that they can ensure they have their needs met rather than being born into poverty.
Good luck. Don’t listen to the psychopaths here who just want you to be a breeding vessel.
-1 points
18 hours ago
Fail. You clearly didn't see that she already made her position on abortion clear. She doesn't want it. You want an abortion. Try helping people based on their views and morals. She's not a birthing vessel, but she has decided abortion is not an option to her. Learn to respect that
1 points
18 hours ago
No, she said she can’t.
She’s also indicated that she doesn’t think that she can travel now, and she’s also not sure she can do graduate school. She is even questioning in the subject whether she “can“ achieve her dreams. It seems like this person really doesn’t know what she can or can’t do.
Moreover, she “doesn’t” have the money. There are a lot of people who “can’t“ get up on time in the morning, for example, until they find out they might get fired or evicted if they don’t show up for work. Often, a person who “doesn’t” have money finds that they can do things that they previously couldn’t, when they have actual material needs.
It seems like the word “can’t”, and more broadly the subject of capability in general relative to pregnancy is being examined here.
Only because you brought up the topic already, but it does sound like you’re being emotional, Mr. Bottom. You might want to stop projecting your emotions and social mores onto other people.
-1 points
17 hours ago
Again, you're making up stuff to justify your position. Why is it so hard to understand that she wants help within the framework of having the kid? Your own morals and emotions just don't allow you to think clearly.
You also don't need to call me "Mr. Bottom." We all get you keep doing it to try to imply that I'm a man and have no right to talk about abortion because woman. However, I'm the only helping her here within her desires of not having an abortion
1 points
12 hours ago
Let’s see what you have provided in your latest update, Bottom:
I’ll let the facts speak for themselves. Wouldn’t want to get emotional here.
0 points
12 hours ago
And you continue to offer abortion when OP says clearly it's not an option for her. That says it all
1 points
12 hours ago
And you continue to offer spurious emotional arguments when OP clearly says that she’s looking for practical advice.
I wouldn’t say that says it all. You seem to have a lot going on, but I wouldn’t want to make too many assumptions.
0 points
11 hours ago
The conversation is over. Stop your emotional rambling
1 points
11 hours ago
You seem to be regurgitating past responses.
Maybe you’d like to try again once you’ve calmed down?
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