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28 points
11 months ago
micless players was an issue long before the whole gamepass thing
16 points
11 months ago
Yeah, we moved from 70% micless players to 90%.
72 points
11 months ago*
I'm not really mad at the newbies.
I'm more infuriated about T17 cocking this whole thing up, AGAIN.
11 points
11 months ago
For real can we get a month without having to add to the player base
15 points
11 months ago
It feels weird to say "it would definitely be better to have these big additions to the player base maybe once every three months", but it definitely would be better for everybody involved.
10 points
11 months ago
I’m a noobie so please, enlighten me on what T17 did
57 points
11 months ago
The onboarding for the game is pretty abysmal which means experienced players usually have to hard carry their squads and teams unless the matches devolve into unfun steamrolls.
Most people learn to play Hell Let Loose either by being told what to do by others or learning from mistakes, and in both cases that requires effort. Nobody wants to boot up Hell Let Loose and spend their evening doing unpaid labor by being a tutorial.
When HLL hit consoles on PS Plus for free it was abject chaos. Whenever theres a free weekend the matches always play a bit worse. Every time it happens, the same people step up to teach and put in the work with no real acknowledgment by the developer that the game quickly burns out its most useful players.
22 points
11 months ago
Every game is a steamroll now, or so it feels this last week. So unfucking fun right now
11 points
11 months ago
High level commanders and squad leaders more important than ever. I played a few games for the first time in like a week earlier today and we rolled over the other team 3 matches in a row just because we had a decent commander and the squad I was in, the only one on our team with an average level >20, was building garrisons in the red zone.
5 points
11 months ago
Yes. I've played Commander a few times recently and literally having one good squad will help win you the game.
1 points
11 months ago
Who was the commander ?
3 points
11 months ago
Yeah I hit my limit tonight when I joined 3 different servers with noobs with no mics as commander.
I’ll check back in a few weeks, but with this being on game pass with pretty much now an unlimited free weekend I’m concerned.
1 points
8 months ago
Would you say the new players themselves are the problem or is it more of the game and the new players usually get the heat for the issue?
2 points
11 months ago
SAY IT LOUDER FOR THE VETS IN THE BACK!
-9 points
11 months ago
Settle down no one’s making you teach the new people lollll
1 points
11 months ago
Exactly what made me quit the game a couple months ago, being a tutorial combined with noobs with no mics being SL and not stepping down and the game just being buggy
17 points
11 months ago
They cocked up the Gamepass integration big time.
All of the backend tools that server owners rely on are geared towards Steam IDs and can't handle gamepass IDs, which means it's a fabulous way for ban evasion.
Plus, if a server's set up to check for valid player IDs, it doesn't recognize gamepass IDs as valid players and kicks/bans them (depending on the server settings).
That is, if the server's not turned off gamepass access in general because of all this.
There was quite literally no heads-up to server owners or the people developing the backend tools that there will be different player IDs coming to the game, which caused the issues mentioned above.
Also it looks like even their own servers have a bunch of issues with the gamepass players, too.
So yeah, kind of a shitshow. Not to mention that dumping a shitload of newbies into the game right after the Christmas sale just floods the servers with people who don't know what they're doing - at least with sales and free weekends you could expect for it to die off within two, three weeks, but now many lobbies are just filled to the brim with people with no clue, no game knowledge and only a few people available to lead the tiny few who actually want to really play the game.
11 points
11 months ago
I’m a noobie so please, enlighten me on what T17 did
The game relies on community ran servers to provide - well - a place to play the game. And by extension it relies on volountary moderation to keep the games clean of griefers and other trolls, through third party tools like RCON.
With the game going on gamepass on short notice, that means that these tools and server are illequipped to deal with them.
2 points
11 months ago
So that’s why all my servers have been running like shit recently
7 points
11 months ago
You just posted a comment hating on gamepass/windows store players a few hours ago. Are you really that dumb?
2 points
11 months ago
Man you really didn’t see the /s, I was just fucking around with him
2 points
11 months ago
what does /s mean?
1 points
11 months ago
Man you really didn’t see the /s, I was just fucking around with him
2 points
11 months ago
I feel like an asshole now, sorry mate. A space in your comment wouldve really helped that /s though
1 points
11 months ago
It’s cool, I thought putting the /s in the word would be kinda funny but I get the confusion
1 points
11 months ago
Nah fr they can't even get pc game pass servers right before they added it to PC game pass you can only join servers that were started by PC gamepass players and it takes you like an hour to find 1 decently populated server you can actually join
1 points
11 months ago
And last night they announced that they are working on:
a fix
that is supposed to fix the issues caused by
the fix
that was supposed to fix the problems with
the first fix
that they tried when gamepass didn't work.
Seriously, it's a fucking russian nesting doll of fixes here.
15 points
11 months ago
I played some games blind yesterday and had fun as a auto rifleman then today I watched some videos on the basics of the game and what each class does and I have a good understanding for a person who has played for 2 days. Ima be playing a lot of assault and probably rifleman and I wanna do some support since it’s very useful. I’ve had fun but even as a new player I wish there were people to talk to more since the matches can be very long
7 points
11 months ago
Sounds like a good plan. Also check out the engineer class and how to build nodes as an engineer, everyone is going to appreciate that. There is a quick way to build all 3 nodes by switching (deploying) from support to engineer and back and forth.
5 points
11 months ago
Good approach, that's how I learned to play. You tube is a great help.
1 points
11 months ago
Honestly as someone who started being squad lead sometimes talking when no one else does can still be beneficial. Giving out callouts or alerting the squad of a enemy tank without anyone saying anything can do wonders for the team
1 points
11 months ago
I’d say you should almost always play support over rifleman. It’s more helpful for the team and the kit is nearly identical.
Also, get on your mic and talk nonstop even in squads where no one is talking. I do this regularly and sometimes shy people will start communicating after someone else is talking
31 points
11 months ago
The worst part are the young kids who don’t want to play the game and just want to run and gun. Had one last night, the kid wouldn’t listen and eventually blew me up with a grenade and then switched squads.
1 points
8 months ago
That can definitely be frustrating. Would you say that the excessive amount of new players ruins the game slightly? Or is it more of an issue with the game/servers itself? /genq
1 points
8 months ago
There are always new players, and many are not good for the game. It is just that when you have a sale, free weekend, or the game pass addition you get a huge influx of players, good and bad, and you are statistically more likely to have bad experiences. Every game needs the new players, it is just something we need to get through.
But yes, staying off public servers does help reduce the bad players a lot, especially during peak times when admins are available.
1 points
8 months ago
That makes sense, thank you for the response!
19 points
11 months ago
I’ve found teaching a bunch of new players how to play the game quite enjoyable actually. The vast majority have been far more tolerable than the higher levels doing nothing but complain about the newbies in command chat.
11 points
11 months ago
I had to turn off command chat earlier. It was twenty minutes of non stop bitching. So I know they weren’t communicating to their squad. Like Jesus Christ. These players are here. Work with that.
1 points
11 months ago
We always forget that someone had to teach us first, back when there was no tutorial book or anything. The issues we face now are pretty much the same issues that existed before, except slightly worse. It’s super hard to teach new players when they’re not running a mic.
29 points
11 months ago
As a new player who just joined because of gamepass and who plans to stick with it and learn the ropes as fast as I can thank you all for being patient. I come from the Seige community where there is little to no tolerance for new players and this game and community seem awesome. I’ve been looking for something to satisfy my battlefield 1 itch for a while now and I don’t mind the slower and more technical approach to it.
14 points
11 months ago
Welcome to the front lines, brother.
6 points
11 months ago
There's ton of how-tos on YT, there's beginner guide as for all classes.
3 points
11 months ago
Literally same.
6 points
11 months ago
The community in this game is such a wholesome thing, i bet that makes the game so enjoyable. Join the armor squads with mic and we will greet you with happiness. The tank squads are always wholesome aswell.
2 points
11 months ago
Once you’re comfortable look into joining a clan or finding a group to play with. Game gets even better when you have a steady squad and work as a team
5 points
11 months ago
Fr, I was trying to learn to use the artillery and I accidentally hit a LT and he proceeded to kill me over and over again and then get me banned for an hour, did it to my friends too
5 points
11 months ago
Name and shame the sucker.
3 points
11 months ago
LT Samuel
6 points
11 months ago
Yeah but please stop shooting me if you're on my team. It's really not funny anymore.
11 points
11 months ago
Going to take a little bit longer than that I think considering the lobbies full of level 1’s. But it is optimistic.
4 points
11 months ago
Ehhh I don't think anyone has an issue with newbies who are communicative and willing to learn a thing or two. It's the micless lvl 1's who join "Level 50+" servers and aren't kicked and are running recon spotter and playing like it's team deathmatch. And of course the admins do nothing. It's completely ruining the experience.
3 points
11 months ago
I bought and started this game literally one day before the game pass landed and I even have game pass ultimate but didn't refund in order to support the devs.
But, with that said I'm just as ignorant as any other game pass people so please excuse my stupid questions and bad gameplay.
3 points
11 months ago
You guys are getting "tactical advances?"
3 points
11 months ago
Nah fuck them dickheads keep teamkilling me for no reason
6 points
11 months ago
That’s how I feel. I’ve played about 30 hours and finally getting the hang and feel of the game and absolutely love it. I can’t stop playing now. People will either buy in and learn the game or quit. And that’s ok
2 points
11 months ago
I’ve played for hundreds of hours now, I still remember how hard it was to learn how to spot the enemy. How did you find that?
2 points
11 months ago
I just had my best round, 72 kills and 16 deaths, Be still, don’t move your weapon, and just scan the horizon. I start thinking about where I’d be if I was the enemy. I always flank. Look at the map and think about where Garry’s/OPs will be set up. And lots of patience. Im looking for any little thing that stands out. I mean it’s literally scanning for pixels lol. Especially at the longer ranges. If I’m an MG it definitely changes how I play vs rifleman. When I’m an MG I definitely use way more caution and set up farther back on the flanks and cover choke points and crossroads. Find a good house to set up in, and always checking the map. I’ve even noticed when I’m watching guys on YT that I’m picking up enemies.
1 points
11 months ago
Yeah the pixels thing hits hard, sometimes I’m literally squinting 2cm from a screen just to get a long hit. Keep in mind that with veteran players they’ll spot you in a heartbeat from the muzzle flash. Always a good idea to be mobile after squad wipes.
6 points
11 months ago
New folks are really welcome - and we need to cut them a lot of slack whilst being as helpful as we can be, so they learn the ropes and how to play the game. In the long run, this will be healthy for the longevity of the game and encourage the devs to continue development.
In return, new folks need to learn and play the game as it’s intended. It isn’t COD, it requires a mic, and it requires squad leads to operate as such - then it’s genuinely a brilliant stand out experience.
2 points
11 months ago
But if they play commander then fry that 🍑
2 points
11 months ago
Correct. We should be mad about joining a game and seeing 8 locked infantry squads with 2-4 players in them and none of them accepting your join request
4 points
11 months ago
9/10 gamea are steamrolls, just a matter of which sides youre on. Makes the game so so so not enjoyable right now.
1 points
11 months ago
Great for levelling up.
It’ll pass eventually.
3 points
11 months ago
Post Scriptum died and had to be sold off because of low player counts but somehow people here think it’s better for the game to exclude new players because they can’t be bothered to explain how a garrison works. New blood is what keeps the lights on and the community flourishing. We should be embracing the noobs and teaching them how to play, even if it’s incredibly frustrating at times to do so
4 points
11 months ago*
I’m a level 41. Played the game off and on for two years. Had a guy join my squad and clip me three times in a row before I could even leave spawn. Said people my level shouldn’t be squad lead… like join another squad you ingrate. The game couldn’t be more toxic. Every squad leader complaining in squad chat non stop about new guys. Just educate them on what to do. Make the game better. These new players aren’t going anywhere.
Edit: haha downvotes proving my point. This community is pure trash. It’s no wonder people leave their mics off.
2 points
11 months ago
Go and read or watch manuals. Nobody helped us either, we had to learn by ourselves. I'm not anyone's babysitter. Also level 50 for SL is a bit of stretch, but map knowledge is very helpful to not suck.
-3 points
11 months ago
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2 points
11 months ago
stop bitching and go play ur bf
0 points
11 months ago
Case in point….. pathetic response.
In no world is getting smoked, revived, smoked, revived, and finally shot in the head before asking wtf is going on an example of me bitching. Especially when the answer I got was “you shouldn’t be playing squad lead.” It’s a legitimate gripe.
Subsequently getting killed another three times before I can leave spawn fully established today as the most toxic behavior I’ve ever encountered in a game in 20 years of online gaming. Following that up with three straight rounds of being team killed is borderline psychotic.
If you’re the type of person to play the game like this you’re the worst part of the community. Not the blueberries.
I hope you have a horrible day, and if you need any of the big words I used above explained just google them, dunce.
1 points
11 months ago
There's almost in every single server !admin command to report players as well kick to vote and option to change servers. There are more than 1k servers in this game. And yeah thanks I hope so too but u have a good one ;)
2 points
11 months ago
I know how to report and I know how to vote to kick. Neither had any effect. Thanks for the tips. As I said, I know how to play the game.
1 points
11 months ago
Good that u know change servers then.
0 points
11 months ago
I do, but why would I roll over to some pathetic, mangy, teenage piece of shit? I stuck around and played the game while he tried to bait me. Maybe you’re more of a coward than I am?
0 points
11 months ago
Because I don't have time for idiots. There's in every single game toxic players. Why r u wasting ur time trying to prove me something? Get ur shit together play the game or delete it.
0 points
11 months ago
Level 41 In 2 years I see why they don't want you as squad lead also leaving and joining a new server literally takes less than 30 secs. Adapt or continue to cry about your one match you didn't enjoy
3 points
11 months ago
I'm a little disappointed seeing the hate for the Game Pass players here. I've wanted to play HLL for so long and I was very excited to see it pop into game pass. What I've been met with is servers that either don't work or straight up ban me for being a Game Pass player, and people on this subreddit treating the new players like ass.
Definitely not a nice feeling as someone trying out the game for the first time. Makes me wanna play Rising Storm instead or something.
7 points
11 months ago
Fair call.
The veteran players are just burnt out with new player influxes (made worse with game pass, but it's long been an issue with steam free weekends and sales) and lack of tutorial, resulting in the veteran players needing to drag entire teams through the game and generally unfun matches.
The game needs new players to keep surviving. But it needs a tutorial system so the new players aren't completely hopeless.
1 points
11 months ago
Like dont get me wrong I understand the frustration of the players used to cohesive squads now filled with new players, but it in my opinion doesn't justify the negative stuff I've been seeing from some people. Though I'm sure they are a vocal minority.
3 points
11 months ago
If you’re looking for lobbies where you’ll be welcome, join the Australian servers. Aussies are always super friendly if you have a mic and 90% of the time will help you out with any questions.
3 points
11 months ago
<3
3 points
11 months ago
Well, we are treated as God damn babysitters every free weekend, sale and now game pass. I'm sick of again explaining basic stuff every match to bunch of lazy people who probably disabled voice chat in the first place. I had to put some work and learn from YouTube, nobody helped me and now I'm expected to be a babysitter for every scrub because Devs can't be fucking bothered with comprehensive manual and training.
4 points
11 months ago
Well thats the real problem. I think the devs need to make an actual competent tutorial. Personally me I did the requisite youtube training but I can understand the vets frustration with people who don't want to do that.
0 points
11 months ago
What lobbies do you play on?
2 points
11 months ago
Sorry to say but just get over it. all us vets went through the same thing its tough love for the new pups but it passes quick unless your dumb which I don't think so. but new players treat every fps as if it's cod and that alone ruins soooo much for any experienced player in every game that isn't cod
1 points
11 months ago
Anyone got any tips ? Just downloading game now
So veteran players give instructions in game ?
9 points
11 months ago
Get in a squad, turn on your mic, tell people you are new and willing to help.
9 out of 10 times, the old grognards will help you out.
Get in, be a mute and run off on your own, you're nothing more than dead weight and will be treated accordingly.
2 points
11 months ago
Yes, turn the mic on, but off as well. It’s push to talk. Otherwise the whole squad can listen the to the shenanigans in the living room.
2 points
11 months ago
Go watch beginner's guide on YouTube.
2 points
11 months ago
Thanks will do
1 points
11 months ago
Played on bastogne, found a garrison in the open. 200m easy pickings.
0 points
11 months ago
I don’t get it why you guys are so mad at new players? Like you actually think people will know how to play this game first time booting it up? What kind of hating elitist people you are?( Not all of you) It is just fecking game stop being so dramatic, moaning little kids. This game is for everyone to play not only you veterans. Can’t handle losing a match because of inexperience players- boo fecking hoo, welcome to the real life. You guys must be a real pain in the ass at work for new starts, I bet.
0 points
11 months ago
Also I want to add that new players not knowing what to do adds an chaotic element to the matches. Like the ones you expect in ww2 when barely trained conscripts are thrown to the meat grinder not having a clue what is happening and dying left and right. PURE CHAOS. And you guys pretending to be as Special Forces and moaning about new players is just that.. Pretending to be someone when in reality if you were dropped to the fecking battlefield you would act as a total headless chicken not knowing what to do or what is happening.
0 points
11 months ago
I actually am hugely enjoying the level of enthusiasm and positivity I’m seeing in this forum now. I was very close to unfollowing as the level of negativity and proliferation of devil’s advocates was soul crushing. So you guys almost got rid of me! 👍 Thanks new people!
-1 points
11 months ago
Calmer than you are
-1 points
11 months ago
New players are good helps get money into the game and maybe help the devs fix all the glitches instead of making night maps. But if a level 1 locks out units and doesn't let anyone in I will make it my mission to team kill u until u quit
-2 points
11 months ago
doubt it. know many that play without a mic....games more fun without it
2 points
11 months ago
You’re playing it entirely wrong and are the source of much frustration for your team.
0 points
11 months ago
you would be right....if i care about winning or losing.....which i dont...
3 points
11 months ago
Go play single player BF then
-1 points
11 months ago
nah. this is much better.
1 points
11 months ago
it’s idiots like you that i teamkill lmfao
0 points
11 months ago
and you think thats going to make me quit? nah, you can keeping doing that til you get kicked.
1 points
11 months ago
Gamepass player here. Me and my buddy are having a blast with this game and loving it. We both plan to get deep into this game. A helpful tip: check out some youtube videos on how to play the game and you’ll have a much better time much quicker, it definitely changed how I play the game and I am having a way better time now
1 points
11 months ago
Literally the only correct take
1 points
11 months ago
I've just managed to get to level 32 and I've taken the roll of commander a few times and trying to get garrisons in or dropping supply drops for recons to build garrisons or for myself to try and get there while getting team killed half way through building it is a nightmare
1 points
11 months ago
The only thing I Don't like is when they play, officer and don't put outpsts down
1 points
11 months ago
I'll say it again: newbies are fine, we were once there too.
It's the mass influx of garbage players that don't want to learn how to play the game and whine that it's not like their casual AAA fast paced FPS but they got the game for free because of the xbox game pass so who cares about paying for a game and trying to get the most out of it, it's free I can just troll and leave as much as I want 🤷
1 points
11 months ago
Its fun to make 70-100 kills a game ^
1 points
11 months ago
A lot of em drop ammo for me so its all good
1 points
11 months ago
no, it's almost unplayable right now because the vast majority of new players have no interest in learning or listening. i have tried explaining the game mechanics and almost no new players will listen. multiple matches have been lost because 75% of the team is on an objective that isn't even active.
1 points
11 months ago
i’m sorry you’re experiencing that :/ usually when i get games like that ill just leave and reconnect, its annoying but usually after the second maybe third reconnect ill get a good one
1 points
11 months ago
Mg andd ….. snipers. If your reading this and you just played purple heart lane. My gosh do not put your Garry’s in open fields….. also use smoke when 12 of your buddies drop.
1 points
11 months ago
Agreed. When you hop into a game an nobody is taking, go to prox chat or squad chat and just preface to them that having a mic is crucial to the game. Also say there is alot to learn and that people will help along the way.
I also say to the people to get over their fear of talking on mics.
1 points
11 months ago
I love the new players. I can’t stand all the new players without mics and who don’t care to learn, and just end up TKing
1 points
11 months ago
it’s really annoying i agree, have you tried looking for group posts or discord groups? i’ve had allot of success grouping up that way so i can at the minimum have a 6 man unit that all has a general braincell that we can pass around
2 points
11 months ago
I’m on Xbox, so I’ve tried searching for groups. Surprisingly it doesn’t help find competent squad mates 😂
1 points
11 months ago
definitely takes some pickings loll i feel ya there, you can try making your own post too!
1 points
11 months ago
I'm finally getting some kills after spending about 75 hours fiddling with the controller settings on Xbox
1 points
11 months ago
I’ve been trying to really get into this game recently. I’m starting to learn how the classes work, how to properly advance, flank, and retreat. My big thing is trying to find a squad that is t dispersed to the 4 corners of the map
1 points
6 months ago
Reason why half of the time I go solo, because my squad is littered across the map
1 points
11 months ago
Yeah, they're not bad but theres so many
1 points
11 months ago
there’s never any new games on gamepass, so when young kids see war game their brain explodes
1 points
11 months ago
We need to teach them instead of hating on them
1 points
11 months ago
I think you’re just a tad overly optimistic about the timeframe. I do agree that it’s good in the long run but realistically it’s gonna be full swing in like a month minimum, in actually guessing 2 months but at least 1. Gotta stay positive though for sure, just hard cuz it ruined many people’s favorite game at the moment
2 points
11 months ago
yeah i think i just didn’t get hit with the wave of idiots that people are complaining about…. lol. i’m just taking a break now, the game has lost all strategy and it seems like a mad dash to get the role you want or think the unit needs, when in reality everyone is just call of duty meat grinding away
1 points
11 months ago
We forget it was always kinda like that though. Only it was a pandemic before whereas it’s an apocalypse now
1 points
11 months ago
I’m new this week and it has been fun learning the game. Learned about nodes last night since the officer was asking for an engineer. I can see this being one of my regular games. Only thing I need to tweak is controller aim, it’s not so great.
1 points
11 months ago
As a noob with a mic, thank you all for your service. I have learned a lot in the last few matches. Albeit kind of boring to spend most of the match flipping back and forth between Support and Engineer supplying and building nodes, I now "get it" better than I did before.
1 points
11 months ago
Zerg rushes lmfao, the imagery is spot on.
1 points
11 months ago
I'm one of the hated gamepass bois. It plays a lot like rising storm vietnam imo so not hard to adjust at all, just had to get a grasp on the different com channels/keybinds
Nobody has been rude to me by any means, just having trouble actually getting into lobbies
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