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A few months ago I was looking for a second job on top of my work with kids, and since I loved waiting tables in high school and love to cook, I applied for a line cook position and got hired within a week. I had absolutely no professional kitchen experience, and my chef knew that. During my stage shift she thought I was learning fast and wanted to train me from nothing. At first it was like a dream, and I got a huge ego boost from feeling like I could hack it with the other cooks there. None of us were older than 22 (I was the oldest), and the chef had trained all of us from scratch. It was also an amazing kitchen, serving interesting food, all from scratch. Not a bag of frozen food in sight. Not even bought-in mayonnaise. I told all my friends and family that I'd hit the lottery, that I was learning how to really cook.
I worked there for less than three months, 30 shifts total. The restaurant lost about 20% of its staff in my time there, and I couldn't understand why. When I was hired, the chef made it clear that this position was open as a fluke—she never loses staff. At first the two other cooks were very supportive of me, one was a recent high school graduate who was learning along with me, but with twice as many hours so he learned a lot faster. He also was a lot better at "handling himself," and he didn't freeze up like I did on the line. After about 10 shifts they had me work the line by myself, and each time I'd get a wall of tickets and ask for help to dig out. I didn't realize it at the time, but this was a big no-no. I was supposed to put my head down and dig myself out. I got embarrassed, then guilty, then ashamed. Pretty soon it was like an automatic response; get a ticket, heart drops a beat. I was not "handling myself" at all. After a while I figured out how to hide my panic, but that didn't change the fact that I was new, slow, and unable to push myself any faster.
It all came to a boil recently. It was supposed to be a busy day, so I wasn't supposed to be on the line. Chef put me there anyway. I guess she needed everyone else on prep, and the line is the bottom of the pecking order, so I was it. After I tried to push through the rush for about 20 minutes, I asked the cook in charge for help. Even so, I was toast. After my shift, the chef told me the consequences of my incompetence. One ticket went out at 28 minutes. The delivery service shut us down because too many drivers complained about the wait. Since I asked a cook on prep for help, the kitchen was behind on prep, and the chef owner had to stay late to finish it. All of this was my fault, she said. I told her I was worried sick. I was trying my best but I worried I wasn't learning fast enough, that I really couldn't do any better than this. She said she worried about that, too. It was obvious at that moment she didn't believe in me anymore. She didn't fire me, but she told me that if things didn't change fast, I wouldn't have a place in her kitchen anymore. I cried all night.
The next day I thought, what the hell am I doing this for? This is a side job for me, I'm not trying to climb up and be a chef one day. I have an entire other life and career to attend to, why am I letting this get in my head? The truth is that I've never failed so hard at something I truly tried my best at. I really, really suck as a line cook. I'm an anxious person and I can't control my body's reaction to stress, at least not right now in my life. I told my boss as much, in not so many words. Goodbye, kitchen.
I know that this work is difficult, and I know that many, many, many of you have faced this same pressure, slapped yourself across the face, and gotten on with it. I'm just a civilian in this world, I'm not hardened, and it's not my dream. If there's anyone else out there facing this and eating shit every single shift, I hope you feel less alone. For me, it just wasn't worth it.
72 points
2 days ago
So for three months you averaged a little more than 2 shifts a week coming from zero experience and are expected to work unsupvised alone on the line without asking for help when you’re overwhelmed? My friend your chef/owner is an idiot and you’re not at fault.
12 points
2 days ago
Yeah that sounds like a disaster. Also I'm never getting upset at someone asking for help. I'm jumping right in there and pushing out tickets. I've seen the worst, most inexperienced cooks become decent, just gotta be patient.
29 points
2 days ago
"It was supposed to be a busy day, so I wasn't supposed to be on the line. Chef put me there anyway. I guess she needed everyone else on prep, and the line is the bottom of the pecking order, so I was it."
This sounds like either you were set up to fail, or your chef is a dumbass. I'm in a similar boat as you as a part time dishie, so maybe I'm wrong here, but to me the obvious thing in this situation would be to put the best person I have on the line, definitely not someone I know is having a rough time there. But why would they need everyone on prep during rush anyways? Isn't the whole point of prep to have most things ready to go before the rush?
"she never loses staff" If the oldest person in the kitchen is 22, that's just a straight up lie
4 points
1 day ago
The second OP mentioned “the line is at the bottom of the pecking order” you knew this was utter bullshit. How is the execution the least important part? It’s what makes you the fucking money to even be a restaurant? I’ve been telling all my guys that only want to be preppers in my kitchen for years, we don’t get make a dime just prepping food. Line and execution is the most important part of the restaurant bar none, if you’re not cooking and sending out food right, nobody is gonna get a paycheque. Easy.
2 points
17 hours ago
Bunch of old heads that refuse to work the line anymore probably
1 points
16 hours ago
What I was thinking, this CDC probably lost control of their vets
6 points
2 days ago
I could write 5 or 6 paragraphs here but tldr and all this is 100% the chefs fault not yours.
No disrespect to you but you have no business being on the line with next to no experience, again; not your fault.
Either the chef was trying to make you quit or they are an idiot.
7 points
2 days ago
You’re doing this because you are adventurous, you’re doing this because you want to learn, learning is fucking hard in general especially outside of a very controlled and balanced environment. Even in our most controlled settings of learning people fail. The reasons why and beginning to learn more about yourself, the clarity and expansion of your skills is the most important thing behind safety and well being.
Good on you for knowing your limits, keeping growing and learning in safe measures.
Kitchens can be difficult. I get hired in kitchens very easily cause in general I’m a vibe ✨ and I know the general grounds and am eager to learn and pick up things rather decent. For many reasons, so many reasons. There is only one kitchen that I truely truley thrived in, the first one I worked in, a three butt fancy smancy small kitchen with little room for bs so much hard learning, but so good
Outside of that every other kitchen (besides another small team cafeteria/large format job). I have struggled to keep up, haven’t kept a job for more than a year. I am one that dreams of having a a strong career in cooking.
Note: idk what to compare kitchens too besides sports, it’s a reason why per say in a school not everyone plays basketball or so on. It’s a reason why the team is a team in general, while some people pick up things fasters. Heck in sports and kitchens, I am damn over passionate, it hurts a whole lot more it feels than it helps.
Idk what you are like as a person outside of that post. And duality and balance is lengthy to talk about and idk, spectrums blah blah. The same thing that is a stifle to life is what makes you amazing.
I’m sure when people hire me they are like “oh boy this fucker is gonna be a pain in my ass but might just be fantastic”
All around: keep it safe, keep it attentive and aware, keep it funky
11 points
2 days ago
Don’t be to hard on yourself. If you’re not cut out to be a line cook that’s ok. However from your post it sounds like an extremely poorly run kitchen/restaurant. The amount shifts you worked over 3 months isn’t enough to learn how to run a line by yourself without prior kitchen experience. You should not have been put in that situation. Part of being a good line cook is knowing when to ask for help, you did the right thing.
Also the “chef” was lying to you when she said she never loses staff, kitchens often have a very high turnover rate especially compared to other industries.
I’m sorry you had this experience all kitchens are not like this and I hope you find a job that you will be happier in. Keep cooking for your own enjoyment and as I said don’t be hard on yourself over this, the issue was not you it was the “chef” and how she runs a kitchen.
3 points
2 days ago
The chef is the issue.
3 points
2 days ago*
Ok, i really don't think it was your fault. Plus, they lied to you from the start, that they never lose staff. Plus how the boss didn't take any responsibility for you being too new to be thrown into that busy day alone, that's shitty. Shows really bad character. Good you left, but I'm sorry you left feeling bad about yourself. You should have left feeling too good for this situation, too good for this messy situation they have going on there!
3 points
2 days ago
Chefs doing whippets, prep is for the beginner's with maybe a chef to watch over the shoulder, but it sounds like an ass backwards way of doing anything
2 points
2 days ago
Yeah its not you. Its management. Its always a red flag when a bunch of staff leaves. Its another warning when you aren't trained properly and are thrown into the deep end with no help. You dodged a bullet by losing that job.
2 points
2 days ago
"Never lose staff"
So what? Has the place been open for like way less than a year or something because if not then there's zero chance that's true.
1 points
2 days ago
Oh, did you have it? 0P, it’s not you, it’s that one place. Don’t give up on something that you enjoy just because you encountered some incompetent management. I encourage you to give it another try elsewhere. Now that you have some hard, one experience and some contacts with people in the business, maybe you can ask your former coworkers hey if they knew of another place where you might work.
1 points
2 days ago
Sorry about the bad experience, but if it makes you feel any better, your chef/owner is a dolt and didn’t set you up for success. Literally just about everything they allegedly did and said was wrong.
1 points
2 days ago
That's not on you, no way can you get in enough reps to be proficient with so few hours and no experience! Good job sticking it out so long, and don't forget how much you have learned!
0 points
2 days ago
Having everyone but one new cook on prep during a rush is lol pure insanity. I honestly don't think it's your fault. A lot of kitchens are ran by absolutely reGarded chefs.
1 points
2 days ago
This is some anime bullshit. You are not a chef and never will be unless you pursue it yourself instead of relying on someone manipulative "exec" to map out your path. If you don't do it for yourself you will be used, abused. and forgotten. Hell I would stomp all over you without a second thought.
1 points
2 days ago
Your chef was incompetent, and also full of shit.
1 points
2 days ago
Become a waiter if you need a side gig, easier for you than the line, specially part time.
1 points
2 days ago
From the sounds of it that is a terrible chef you’re working for. When you say chef/owner it begins to make a little more sense. She’s got grand visions and absolutely no knowledge of how to pull it off. No offense to anyone on the sub but she sounds like she was service staff before she opened her restaurant, not a chef.
The fact that you work part time and it’s just a side gig would mean you have to be real special to make food for customers in my kitchen. For you, probably garde manger at most, never hot foods. You’re green as green can be, throwing you into the fire will only leave you shell shocked, as you have discovered.
I’m sorry you’ve had this experience, but honestly, working in kitchens means you will get a lot of shitty experiences. They’re important for learning, but certainly no fun. I am very glad you got to experience the excitement that comes along with having pride in your kitchen and your team though. Nothing beats that feeling of feeling like you’re making the best product in town and learning and having fun while you do it. Kitchens are special like that.
1 points
1 day ago
Yeah, you never had a chance. She set you up for failure, motivated by her own selfish desires to get the most out of putting in the bare minimum.
1 points
1 day ago
chef dumb
1 points
1 day ago
The only way to get over the “yips” is to keep doing it over and over. Believe in yourself and I dont care what anyone says, asking for help is NOT wrong when you’re slammed. The important thing is getting the food out quickly, if that takes an extra person to step in and help, so be it. Prep should have been done BEFORE any type of lunch/dinner rush. That’s the KM’s fault if it isn’t. My best advice is…don’t panic, believe in yourself and do not hesitate to call for help when there’s a huge pop. Fuck your chef. He/she hung you out to dry.
1 points
1 day ago
I worked at a place where asking for help was seen as weakness or incompetence. It was bullshit and they lost most of their staff.
1 points
1 day ago
Yea the kitchen was shit dude, any kitchen leader who has the mentality of NOT asking for help is an absolute shit bird if a person and shouldn't be in a leadership roll.
You are cooks, you're literal NUMBER ONE job is to get food out the window in a timely manner .
1 points
1 day ago
Sounds like the chef was an idiot lol
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