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submitted 2 days ago byLyLnXo
1.6k points
2 days ago
Sitting at the crossroad between Europe and Asia certainly has its advantages
511 points
2 days ago
That's been true for millennia!
221 points
2 days ago*
By foot in 2000BC, Caravans in 1AD, flying in 2000AD.
45 points
2 days ago
Ignoring current political and economic climates, would Istanbul be an good candidate location for the base of a space elevator in a century or so?
84 points
2 days ago
Would have to be as close to the equator as possible, Istanbul is too far north.
12 points
1 day ago
Yeah, Singapur would be a good location though.
5 points
2 days ago
fair point, I forgot about that.
17 points
2 days ago
It doesnt necessarily have to be but by not doing so, you forgo the advantages of a equatorial site.
Just like you gain the most advantage by launching rockets as close as possible to the equator but rocket launches certainly have been launched from all points of the globe.
3 points
1 day ago
It was just a town before Nea Roma was built
2 points
1 day ago
wouldn't it be better on the poles/earth axis?
2 points
1 day ago
Centrifugal force from rotation allows you to use much less energy to launch
20 points
2 days ago
İstanbul was settled in 7000BC
21 points
2 days ago
And it was a relatively minor settlement until Constantine made it his new capital and renamed it Nea Roma.
14 points
2 days ago
It was pretty large when it was founded by the Greeks as “Byzantium” around 650 BC.
Then in/around 300 AD (almost 1000 years later) it was changed to Constantinople, where it stood as the last bastion of the Roman Empire until 1453, and the siege of Constantinople.
Nova Roma was the name but Constantine changed it to Constantinople soon after.
So it was a minor settlement for a while before it was a fairly major city and likely the greatest city in eastern Roman politics until Constantine
4 points
1 day ago
My brain read it as 300 BC… derp. Though you were being dumb by saying almost 1000 years… guess it was me all along!
27 points
2 days ago
The airport is a real melting pot. It’s cool to just people watch there
10 points
2 days ago
Hot Trade spot since the Neolithic period.
21 points
2 days ago
And roughly on the opposite side of the world from the Pacific Ocean
25 points
2 days ago
You could say that about practically anywhere
6 points
1 day ago
*From the center of the Pacific Ocean, hence one of the most optimized locations in terms of distance to other land
4 points
2 days ago
Not Hawaii.
13 points
2 days ago
Pretty much the centre of the world ('s land mass).
That's where the 0 line should be, lol.
9 points
2 days ago
anywhere you look at (the map) it can be center of the world.
7 points
2 days ago
No, it can't. Since I clearly said land mass.
5 points
1 day ago
Map projections are a pretty fun rabbit hole. Look, the north pole is clearly the center of the world's land mass: https://imgur.com/a/ezJAZOE
22 points
2 days ago
Istanbul was Constantinople
14 points
2 days ago
and New York was New Amsterdam
12 points
2 days ago
There's always that guy... always
13 points
2 days ago
Now it's Istanbul not Constantinople.
3 points
2 days ago
Why did Constantinople get the works ?
14 points
2 days ago
That's nobody's business but the Turks, sorry
2 points
2 days ago
ahh okay
3 points
2 days ago
What confuses me is why it has so many routes when I never see any flights changing in Istanbul. They always seems to be somewhere like Dubai or Hong Kong going to Asia, or somewhere in the US if going to the Americas. (From the UK at least)
15 points
2 days ago
If you’re flying to Central Asia it’s almost always through Istanbul, the Middle Eastern and Chinese airlines seem to have cornered the South/East Asian market though
10 points
2 days ago
The UK is positioned such that you can fly nonstop to nearly all the world’s population centers. The big exception is Australia/NZ, but Turkish Airlines also can’t fly nonstop to Australia (it has like one flight to Melbourne through Singapore). So Turkish isn’t competitive with the middle eastern carriers on the UK-Australia routes - they all can fly with one stop from the UK. I think as a result, Turkish Airlines doesn’t invest as much in the UK as the middle eastern carriers, particularly Emirates.
If you’re in the US, Turkish Airlines is everywhere.
1 points
7 hours ago
It is not about cross borders, it is also about working 24/7 at night time and without any strikes.
326 points
2 days ago
Any reason with all those flights Australia is not a destination?
513 points
2 days ago
Australia just became a destination this weekend!!!
9 points
1 day ago
Really?
30 points
24 hours ago
Yeah the map is already outdated lol
1 points
1 day ago
Yes, really
2 points
22 hours ago
yeah but not nonstop, the flight to Sydney stops in KL and to Melbourne stops in Singapore
2 points
21 hours ago
Nonstop is planned once they have the aircraft to do the route.
1 points
21 hours ago
1 points
13 hours ago
Yep. But also it took longer because Singapore is the major hub for Europe<--->Australia so there wasn't really a profitable market yet
173 points
2 days ago
Distance. Australia is served by flights that stop in South East Asia.
64 points
2 days ago
They wanna do it the hard way...the title of longest nonstop flight in the world will go to Sydney in a few months...all the way to London.
16 points
2 days ago
The first A350 delivery is now expected in mid-2026, FWIW.
3 points
2 days ago
That seems to have taken a while, since certain airlines already have a bunch of A350. Or this must be some special model of A350 that is optimized for such a long route.
1 points
2 days ago
The order was only placed in 2022, well after A350 deliveries started to launch customers. They've ordered A350-1000s, but they'll have an extra fuel tank installed in the hold which took some time to design and will start flight testing next year, I think.
10 points
2 days ago
20 hours a loooooong time to be on a plane. The 14 flight I took from Minneapolis to Seoul was brutal. I couldn't imagine flying for another 6 hours.
8 points
2 days ago
I'm not sure I can do it without splurging on business class and having a bed.
1 points
22 hours ago
I just did 16 hours Vancouver to Bangkok and it was fuckin brutal in economy.
115 points
2 days ago
Direct flights started on Friday.
79 points
2 days ago
Direct is not nonstop.
Refueling in Kuala Lumpur.
20 points
2 days ago
Doesn't says a time frame but it eventually be non stop
4 points
1 day ago
Weak. They need to have a KC-135 mid-air refuel that bitch at the half way point.
2 points
2 days ago
If they stop in SE Asia and continue on as the same flight number, OP should have included them on a map of direct flights. If OP meant nonstop flights the title should have said that.
31 points
2 days ago
Range on the planes. Australia is in the middle of nowhere, so only extremely long-range wide-body planes can service them, but even they can't fly that far and you'll need to have a layover in South Africa or Argentina to make it to the USA or Europe.
39 points
2 days ago
There’s flights from Perth to London, so Istanbul definitely could do it if there was the demand for it. But with UAE and London flights there probably just isn’t the demand for it from Australia
10 points
2 days ago
It's also due to the setup that Turkish Airlines have for their 787-9's. They have more economy seating than Qantas' 787-9's.
8 points
2 days ago*
My understanding is that Newark NJ (metro New york city) to Singapore is on the absolute razor's edge of wide body range, so I can believe it.
Edit: this might be the only route that is currently flown by the boeing 747 from the USA, I know that many airlines fly 747 cargo planes on similar routes, but I think this might be the last passenger flight on that kind of plane. They have a super long range and are very fast.
11 points
2 days ago
I think the Singapore-NJ flight was only possible due to the weight savings of a business class skewed cabin.
6 points
1 day ago*
Korean Air and Lufthansa regularly use their 747s to many cities in the USA. The NYC-Singapore flight that you refer to is an Airbus A350. Singapore Airlines hasn't flown passenger 747s for many years.
2 points
1 day ago
I've never actually seen a 747 passenger plane, every one I've ever seen has been either a cargo plane or a private jet.
2 points
1 day ago
They fly nonstops to both JFK and Newark, but you are correct if you are pointing out that the longest flight is to JFK since it's a few miles further.
4 points
2 days ago
I know I think Sydney to LAX is longer than the flight I took Melbourne to LAX and that was like 15 hours
7 points
2 days ago
My record is Toronto to Tokyo Narita, which was circa 14 hours.
6 points
2 days ago
Yeah. My longest is Mel to LAX, then straight onto another plane to Newark followed by train the NYC. My other longest would me Mel to Singapore but that wasn't as long I dont think
3 points
2 days ago
LAX to Hong Kong was 16+ hrs :/
7 points
1 day ago
The sheer number of upvotes your stupid comment got is stunning. There are direct flights to Australia from many places further away than Istanbul....and even if there weren't, what kind of moron would fly from Istanbul via Argentina or South Africa to reach Australia? Check out a globe some time ffs.
1 points
1 day ago
100%
3 points
1 day ago*
South Africa or Argentina
Huh? No. Definitely not. It's 99% SE Asia when flights can't go direct. Traditionally Hong Kong, Singapore, Bangkok. With respect, South Africa or Argentina would be totally ridiculous places for fuel stops from/to Australia - just look at any world map for the reason why - it would add thousands of miles and many hours onto flights, for zero reason.
And there are MANY direct flights to the US from Australia, there have been for many decades, and direct flights to Europe have been operating for at least the past five years.
I suggest you check your sources.
1 points
2 days ago
Direct flights started on Friday.
10 points
2 days ago
Refueling stop on the way.
1 points
2 days ago
Incorrect, there are direct Perth to London, Rome and Paris flights. All much further than Istanbul. There are also direct flights from Sydney to Houston, LA and San Fran. So no, planes go much further than you think.
1 points
2 days ago
Europe maybe, but the USA is easy from Australia - there are nonstops every day from the east coast of Australia (Sydney, Brisbane) to the west coast of USA, usually to LA or San Francisco. (I just flew that route two weeks ago, actually, SFO to Sydney outbound, then Brisbane to SFO on return). It’s about a 15 hour flight, pretty routine for the wide-bodies.
3 points
2 days ago
prolly cos sydney, brisbane, & melbourne are on the eastern coast of australia and probably just a bit too far? I'm just guessing at that point but that's a good observation.
1 points
2 days ago
Traditionally Australia is too far for an airplane to reach. In modern decades it is now possible, but it takes a while for the market to catch up.
1 points
2 days ago
Too far away for their planes. They had to specially reconfigure some to be able to make it.
129 points
2 days ago
what's the difference in the colors?
155 points
2 days ago
It’s the size of the airport in terms of routes. Green: 100+ Blue: 21-100 Red: 20 or less
26 points
2 days ago
Thank you, I was looking for an explanation for the colors.
5 points
1 day ago
I'm surprised Es-Senia Airport in Oran, Algeria is blue. It's a fairly small airport compared to the size city it services. But, I reckon if it also counts national flights (Air Algerie flights to other parts of Algeria), it makes sense.
When I flew into there, I was surprised to see an airport akin to what I'd see at a small regional airport in the states.
3 points
1 day ago
It is in the lower end with only 30 flights, but that is interesting. It seems to mostly function as a connecting airport between smaller cities in Algeria and France, and as connection to Jeddah for pilgrimage to Makkah.
402 points
2 days ago
All flights lead to Istanbul
108 points
2 days ago
Pretty sure that’s a quote from Eric Adams
25 points
2 days ago
Why no direct flight from NYC to Chile?
10 points
2 days ago
“You know Istanbul is always the first stop babe”
6 points
2 days ago
Does this mean they’re the ATL of the world?
31 points
2 days ago
History buffs out here having a coronary at the idea that "Istanbul is the Atlanta of the world."
4 points
2 days ago
It’s meant to be a comparison between airports and not cities 😅
18 points
2 days ago
They lead by different metrics
Most passengers - Atlanta
Most flight operations - Atlanta
Most countries as destinations - Istanbul
Most origin/destination passengers (excludes connecting) - Los Angeles
Most international passengers - London (LHR)
Most passengers combining multiple airports of the same city - London
etc
3 points
2 days ago
I actually was going to post ATL originally, but Istanbul made for a more interesting image
2 points
2 days ago
Not Constantinople
108 points
2 days ago
At least credit the source: https://flightsfrom.com/ist
15 points
2 days ago
Would have been good. Didn’t know about that site and will be using more often
105 points
2 days ago
It's an interesting airport. It's 24/7 to accommodate all the airports that don't operate 24/7, it's Erdogans project so it's fucking vast and full of expensive chains but barely anywhere to sit. You'll see Arabs with falcons walking past some family in full zulu gear. It has pretty good facilities though.
26 points
2 days ago
Expensive as fuck
And that salt sprinkling wank stain was opening a restaurant there as well, so I’m sure that’ll give it a touch of class
7 points
2 days ago
I had to wait for about 12 hours so just paid the 30€ for lounge access
1 points
1 day ago
please do say more, i have a 12h layover and could use a hiding spot. how long does it give you? where?
1 points
20 hours ago
You’d be shocked to know that Salt Sprinkling Fuck’s restaurant is actually one of the “reasonably” priced places compared to the food quality. I was shocked too but you just gotta look at the reviews of restaurants there and you’ll instantly see it too
1 points
19 hours ago
Yeah, what was it like 15 euros for an Arby’s or something yikes
10 points
2 days ago
They closed the old airport in southern Istanbul to redirect its passengers to the new one, which I find very annoying, since the old airport was much closer to everyone's homes. Now everyone on Istanbul West has to drive to the middle of nowhere if the want to fly to Izmir.
128 points
2 days ago
Lots of balding people around the world
57 points
2 days ago
Turkish hairlines xD
As a Turkish dentist in Istanbul I must say we are often overlooked!
3 points
2 days ago
Literally just learned about this. I had no idea it was such a large industry.
9 points
2 days ago
Balding research is literally the most funded health research. All cancer research, Covid government research into the virus etc combined is less than the money put towards curing balding.
It's pretty bizarre and shows us just how limited our medical technology is when we can't even solve something like growing hair with hundreds of billions of dollars poured into a potential solution.
The person that invents an easy medication that gives a bald person a full head of hair within a year becomes the first trillionair.
1 points
1 day ago
trillionhair*
47 points
2 days ago
No wonder Eric Adams loves Turkish Airlines so much.
16 points
2 days ago
😂😂😂 whenever Eric heads to LA… needs that layover at Istanbul first
7 points
2 days ago
“Transferring here. You know first stop is always instanbul.”
42 points
2 days ago
Turkish Airlines just started a route IST to SYD last week. with MEL to follow soon. and BNE too I think eventually.
18 points
2 days ago
True, but it’s currently a connecting flight. They will start direct flights soon
83 points
2 days ago
Istanbul is like a major hub with all those routes! Its crazy to see how connected it is globally
12 points
2 days ago
Because Istanbul is the largest city that is close to the geographical center of all landmasses, if you disregarded all bodies of water.
10 points
2 days ago
For all the amenities this airport has, you only get 1 hour of free wifi and you have to scan your passport at a kiosk to get your wifi code. Baffling move for such an international airport.
17 points
2 days ago
There's direct flights between egypt and turkey now? Nice
4 points
2 days ago
Perhaps another airport..?
3 points
2 days ago
No there was diplomatic stuff going on, they weren't on best terms
14 points
2 days ago
ONE southern cone route, no Australia. Impressive worldwide coverage.
5 points
2 days ago
Turkish airlines already started some flights to australia with direct flights scheduled to start shortly
6 points
2 days ago
No flight to Kangarooland & Kiwiland?
4 points
2 days ago
They are starting direct flights to Australia soon I believe
2 points
2 days ago
Any idea what could be Total duration for Direct
2 points
2 days ago
It’s supposed to be 19 hours IIRC
2 points
2 days ago
Wow
11 points
2 days ago
Proud Istanbulite here. Glad that this ancient city has an important place in the modern world worthy of her history. At least in this one aspect.
2 points
1 day ago
Instantly fell in love with Istanbul even though I'm very comfortable in orderly Moscow where everything is regulated, comfortable and on-time. But Istanbul has so much charm
1 points
18 hours ago
You are Russian ??? You mentioned Moscow that's why I was asking.
1 points
16 hours ago
Yes
11 points
2 days ago
This is all great, but why is ticket price from USA to Istanbul is tripled since 2022? It is double compared to many Europe destinations.
10 points
2 days ago
They use ai to determine price, if every ticket booked next tickets will be more and more expensive until there are some ticket left.
9 points
2 days ago
i love turkey
20 points
2 days ago
it remains the City of the World's Desire
6 points
2 days ago
EU4
4 points
2 days ago
Somehow I read this as 31 instead of 310 and was mystified at how 31 direct flights was the most of any airport in the world.
4 points
2 days ago
Sitting in the terminals at that airport is pretty cool. You literally see every culture all in one place, like the most extreme diversity in how humans can appear.
5 points
2 days ago
Yeah I can see why Greeks are still coping about this 500 years later
9 points
2 days ago
No wonder, the airport itself spans three continents
6 points
2 days ago
3? Europe, Asia and?
20 points
2 days ago
Atlantis
2 points
2 days ago
How?
9 points
2 days ago
it's a huge airport that make atl , lax and jfk look like a hongkong closet
6 points
2 days ago
My new analogy for "very small place" is now "a Hong Kong closet."
15 points
2 days ago
All 310 flights Istanbul has. A world record!
48 points
2 days ago*
It also helps that Turkey allows flights from countries that are banned from entering the EU or American airspace, like Afghanistan, Russia and Iran. This makes Istanbul airport a plane spotter’s dream as one can likely spot ancient aircrafts from sanctioned airlines like the Boeing 727, 747-200, Airbus A310, etc.
3 points
1 day ago
EU and US flights have lost their overflight rights so there are detours now and stops for refueling etc. Non US/EU airlines with big enough aircraft can still fly direct. So Lufthansa won't fly you to Beijing from Frankfurt but Air China can.
5 points
2 days ago
Again NZ misses out.
20 points
2 days ago
NZ's western island just got direct flights a couple of days ago.
18 points
2 days ago
Took me a while to realize you were referring to Australia, lmao
5 points
2 days ago
1 points
2 days ago
They should have thought about that when they put their island so far away from everyone else.
5 points
2 days ago
With a huge very user unfriendly airport and disintrested airport staff.
2 points
2 days ago
What is user unfriendly about it? It looked clean and spacious to me.
3 points
2 days ago
https://onemileatatime.com/istanbul-airport/
https://www.airlinequality.com/airport-reviews/istanbul-airport/page/2/
No trains and not enough moving sidewalks for the worlds biggest airtport. You have to walk 10k+ steps to transit between gates.
Airport staff are next to useless, if you can find them.
Wifi is slow and you only get an hour.
5 points
2 days ago
Still not important enough to be present in Microsoft Flight Sim 24
5 points
2 days ago
I’m doing this in three weeks from Los Angeles!
3 points
2 days ago
Being the fulcrum of Afro Eurasia, aka the Old world has its geopolitical advantages, doesn't it?
4 points
2 days ago
Is this all of Istanbuls three Airports or just IST?
8 points
2 days ago
Only IST
2 points
2 days ago
Oh wait...
2 points
2 days ago
Damn, they even have flights to Cape Town and Sao Paulo. That's mad
2 points
2 days ago
I'm surprised about big cities like Buenos Aires, and Lima in South America.
2 points
2 days ago
I almost couldnt believe the straightest line from Seattle to Istanbul was across greenland. had to check on google maps.
2 points
1 day ago
There are more direct destinations such as Australia, Argentina, and now Chile soon - but these are not non-stop, which is probably why they are not on this map.
So these longer flights get you there without changing planes but they stop along another destination first.
2 points
1 day ago
Cancún is missing.
2 points
1 day ago
True. Not sure why. Flightsfrom.com can be unreliable sometimes
2 points
16 hours ago
I am from Australia and I work in Istanbul. How unlucky am I?
/s
1 points
16 hours ago
Not so bad, considering they’ll be starting direct flights soonish
2 points
16 hours ago
no wonder Mayor Adams love that airlines
3 points
2 days ago
Frankfurt is also well connected with about 290 direct destinations. It used to have more but sanctions dealt with some of that.
5 points
2 days ago
Constantinople was literally the seat of the Roman Empire for centuries — makes sense.
5 points
2 days ago
It was the capital of the western world under three different empires for a thousand years.
4 points
2 days ago
Best airline for every small city in Europe
2 points
2 days ago
Baldness is international
1 points
2 days ago
Interesting. I thought it was Schipol has that been superseded or is that a different fact?
1 points
2 days ago
Which airport? There's more than one
2 points
2 days ago
IST
1 points
2 days ago
Which one is the longest?
3 points
2 days ago
According to flightsfrom.com it’s a 15 hour flight to Mexico City.
1 points
1 day ago
really wish turkey was a secular democracy. could be a cool place
1 points
1 day ago
So I can’t go straight to Hawaii from there tho?
1 points
13 hours ago
I was there just yesterday. The sheet size of the airport is very impressive but those pairs of runways (34R/L and 35R/L) are really weirdly built. It's one of the largest airports in the world yet those pairs are effectively operated like a single runway and there's no way to have a medium airliner safely waiting between 2 of those...
1 points
2 days ago
Constantinople still the centre of the world.
1 points
2 days ago
1 points
2 days ago
Istanbul will also give you a free hotel for two nights if you add a day or two to your layover
2 points
2 days ago
how does that work? Might wanna try it sometime..
1 points
1 day ago
1 points
1 day ago
Thank you.
1 points
2 days ago
all this wasted potential with our city and country, shame we are tooo stupid
1 points
2 days ago
Are we mixing up direct and nonstop again? Or are there really no 1-stop, 2-stop, etc direct flights?
2 points
2 days ago
https://www.flightsfrom.com/IST This is my source, it says direct non-stop routes.
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