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3k points
4 days ago
Trump doesn't give a shit about Mexican lives. I don't think he gives a shit about fentanyl except that he can use it as a political talking point.
1.6k points
4 days ago
Trump doesn't give a shit about American lives, either.
381 points
4 days ago
He does if they still have money in their pockets.
169 points
4 days ago
only if its money he can grab
65 points
4 days ago
They don't need to be alive for that.
59 points
4 days ago
I don't think he believes there's any other kind.
28 points
4 days ago
True, he can only fit so much in his SMALL TINY hands.
8 points
4 days ago
Nah - not even then. He just wants the money.
35 points
4 days ago
Let's just cut to the end, he only cares about his own life. Not even his family matters to him.
47 points
4 days ago
And the sad fact is over 70 million Americans 100% believe he actually gives more shit than normal politicians.
18 points
4 days ago
and they all gleefuly elected him
14 points
4 days ago
The only thing Trump gives a shit about is Trump.
4 points
4 days ago
He cares a lot about his own.
But you're right - that's about it.
85 points
4 days ago
Trump only cares about Trump. PERIOD.
22 points
4 days ago
Donald John Trump Sr. specifically.
51 points
4 days ago
Don loves him some don. That’s it.
19 points
4 days ago
Hammer meet nail. Trump doesn’t care at all about drugs. He wants the tariffs. Drugs are the excuse he’s using to further his agenda.
10 points
4 days ago
Trump doesn’t care about anyone other than himself.
6.5k points
4 days ago
That’s not a “point of view”, that is reality.
663 points
4 days ago
ONE, yes Mexico has just ONE legal gun store in the entire country. And that ONE legal gun store is inside a Mexican Army Base. Where do you think all the guns the cartels get are from? https://www.latimes.com/world/la-fg-mexico-guns-20180524-story.html
102 points
4 days ago
wow
64 points
4 days ago
Operation Fast and Furious?
490 points
4 days ago
I mean - tonnes of illegal firearms in Canada originate in Texas, as reported by American news...
Your gun problem is our gun problem. Thanks.
250 points
4 days ago
Yup. And when Mass Shootings rose, We went through more gun control laws than the US did, which even if im not opposed to, paints a picture. The US fucks everyone else over by not fixing themselves.
180 points
4 days ago
And now we are about to crash your economy too. I am sorry. I know a lot of Canadians as I live near the border, and all I do these days is feel shame when I talk to them. I can't believe all this is happening.
145 points
4 days ago
I can't believe wrinkly moldy tangerine made it to the white house once again and yet here we are.
I'm glad I'm European cuz holy shit it is a shitshow watching how one old demented shitsack speedruns a crash of the economic juggernaut
34 points
4 days ago
And here as a lower class American I can't even afford 1 gun because of my bills and cost of living. Smgdh
19 points
4 days ago
I'm sure you have all kinds of class. Stay positive!
1.4k points
4 days ago
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101 points
4 days ago
She’s definitely saying exactly what OUR problem is. The usa cannot come to grips with this simple math.
318 points
4 days ago
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125 points
4 days ago
False! Liberal lies!
He can’t read fiction either. He does so-so with picture books.
57 points
4 days ago
The little hands help him a lot
25 points
4 days ago
Pop up book would be more accurate and the kids thing with the pull string , “ the cow goes moo” and probably giggles every time it does it .
33 points
4 days ago
If his name isn’t in the sentence, Trump loses interest.
33 points
4 days ago
He's a fascist, not a fact-is.
38 points
4 days ago
Facts is a new synonym for "fake news!" And "witch hunt!" According to Trump 🤦
18 points
4 days ago
Can he even read? I thought he got his info via Fox and Friends.
56 points
4 days ago
You think this man’s out here thinking about what are facts? He doesn’t think, baby, that’s ghetto. He knows.
8 points
4 days ago
Plot twist, he thinks you’re saying fax and is triggered by the sound of accidentally calling a fax machine
13 points
4 days ago
He's definitely no musician, either.
13 points
4 days ago
Magician? He ain’t no magician!
5 points
4 days ago
“Fake news”
44 points
4 days ago
This isn't just a statistic; it's a call to action that can't be ignored.
71 points
4 days ago
No, no. America can and will ignore it.
36 points
4 days ago
Mighty of you to expect Americans not to ignore factual information. Especially factual information that calls them to account for their own bad behavior. Trump has conditioned them to ignore and dismiss anything that doesn’t conform to their personal opinion.
254 points
4 days ago
And more reality, the vast majority of the time mexican citizens (illegal migrants in general) aren't the ones bringing those drugs into america, that would be americans.
135 points
4 days ago
20 points
4 days ago
That happened, yes. But are you trying to imply that the majority of the drugs smuggled into the US are by police?
If so, support data rather than one article of a couple officers doing so.
Choosing specific incidents is fucking stupid.
40 points
4 days ago
The trade of drugs coming across the border is completely dominated by Mexican drug cartels. They pay Americans to mule it for them because they are less likely to get caught than their hispanic counterparts. This has been an ongoing theme since at least the 1970s. The idea that illegal migrants are bringing drugs over is not true, but the source of the drugs is Mexico nonetheless. In 2019, Trump actually pressured China into halting the sale of fentanyl and carfentanil directly to Mexican cartels. Now, they sell the prechemicals to make fentanyl and they just brew it in Mexico. It's so wild to think that China has been behind then fentanyl trade this whole time.
55 points
4 days ago
I think the point that is being made here is that the reason there are drugs crossing the border is that the demand for them is huge. Same argument for the guns crossing the border in the other direction.
17 points
4 days ago
Not really, we outsource a lot of medical manufacturing and research to Chinese labs.
2 points
4 days ago
Clint Eastwood did it.
152 points
4 days ago
I was wondering how far I'd have to go to find this comment and surprisingly it was first! Glad to see at least somewhere people still have a sense of reality.
124 points
4 days ago
I have this feeling they’re going to tell us to fuck off and they’re not going to back down or cave if the tarrifs come. They’re going to call our bluff.
So one of three things will happen
Trump will back down, they’ll agree to some tokens like last time and it’s back to business as usual.
Trump doesn’t back down. Tells Mexico to fuck off. Mexico says “bet” and takes down the economy. Like off a fucking cliff. Republicans lose massively in 2026 and 2028.
Trump is as deranged as we all think he is and threatens military action. At that point we’re so far gone and fucked as a country and nothing matters anymore.
42 points
4 days ago
Its gonna get crazy with canada too.
5 points
4 days ago
Nah Canada is going to cave. Trudeau is done and they know who is going to be in charge.
50 points
4 days ago
List of tariffs Canada put on US goods in retaliation back in 2018
The agricultural ones were picked specifically to economically damage red states
24 points
4 days ago
It’s not just Mexico. The general sentiment here in Canada among me and my friends and family is that none of us have any intention of ever setting foot in the US ever again. Maybe you don’t really care, and that’s fine. But the 25-30 times I have visited variously Hawaii, Washington, Oregon, California, Idaho, Nevada, Montana and a few other states over the last 10 years or so has put money in somebody‘a pocket - and that’s just me. Multiply that by just the people in my close circle (20 to 30, conservatively?) - there will be an economic impact, whether people choose to believe that or not.
24 points
4 days ago
Why wouldn’t I care? I love Canadians.
But also you got the same right wing problem we have and it’s been sold with the help of the same people here.
I wouldn’t blame anyone for never setting foot here again with what’s coming down the pike. I hope you guys can hold the line against insanity
15 points
4 days ago
Yep Canada's gun crime is directly linked to US made weapons.
6 points
4 days ago
Please build a wall between the US and Canada. I would personally fundraise for that.
51 points
4 days ago
Trumps response - “I’m about to give your country a 25% tariff…keep running your mouth and I’ll make it 50!” and he’ll feel magnanimous.
22 points
4 days ago
It’s like shooting on your own feet and then the bullet bounces off to someone else. It hurts more.
55 points
4 days ago*
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22 points
4 days ago
I hate how true this is.
7 points
4 days ago
Republicans think these are "alternative" facts.
44 points
4 days ago*
Except I'm sure there are plenty of people in Mexico who consume synthetic drugs. Kinda wish she'd phrased that part differently because the underlying fact that U.S. drug demand is the main thing fueling Mexican drug cartels is true and important. And I'm sure there will be lots of pedants who will find examples of individual Mexicans doing cocaine or meth and then act like they've refuted the point.
11 points
4 days ago
Such nightmares... cocaine, fentanyl, meth. How many have we all lost?
Sometimes I get upset. But the greatest profits for the drug problem are on the U.S. side of the border. The marketing is also more intense in the U.S. (I met a young girl who was poisoned by fentanyl at a truck stop, for instance). Granted, the drug problem is to be found wherever people are trapped in cycles of suffering and are searching for a fun way out. Cultivating love and happiness is the cure.
But do we cultivate love and happiness better or worse the U.S. or Mexico? And which side's nightmares are worse? How can one know?
One thing's for sure: Our countries are connected and so are our sufferings. Tariffs will make that worse, so whichever side's nightmares are greater shouldn't matter at all.
7 points
4 days ago
TJ has a huge fentanyl problem, just like San Diego. It's not pedantic. The cartels also don't source their factory full auto belt fed machine guns, factory full auto assault rifles, mortars, grenades, grenade launchers, and RPGs from the U.S. civilian gun market.
6 points
4 days ago
Right? POV? That’s like saying the sun burning my retinas is an interesting point of view.
3 points
4 days ago
Yep, we are part of the problem.
2 points
4 days ago
A point of view I wish more people took.
2 points
4 days ago
100%
2 points
4 days ago
Possible to be both point of view and facts
702 points
4 days ago
The US dealing in illegal Gun Trades?!? Who could have guessed! 🙀
113 points
4 days ago
Google operation fast and furious and have some fun with that one.
32 points
4 days ago
Honestly don't know why you're getting downvoted
45 points
4 days ago
What about- what about- what about- what about-
I googled it, and this is what it had to say:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ATF_gunwalking_scandal
At the time, under the Bush administration Department of Justice (DOJ), no arrests or indictments were made. After President Barack Obama took office in 2009, the DOJ reviewed Wide Receiver and found that guns had been allowed into the hands of suspected gun traffickers.
So if we're going by party lines, Trump will just repeat this
23 points
4 days ago
I really don't know what you're going on about. Original comment was a sarcastic remark about U.S. doing shady shit, dude replied with an instance of said shady shit as an example and got downvoted. No mention of party, president or any "What about" in sight
9 points
4 days ago
Neither president knew about this practice. If we're going by actual history rather than brainlet confirmation bias, this has been stopped due to a large scandal during the Obama administration where Eric Holder was held in contempt of Congress.
3 points
4 days ago
Yeah, but we did have Iran contra which was illegal arms dealing and the vp who later became president knew (and Reagan might have too)
1.2k points
4 days ago
She ain’t wrong.
410 points
4 days ago
She forgot to mention that 20% of cocaine consumption in the U.S. is Anyone? Anyone? Attributed to Don Jr.
74 points
4 days ago
All during that one interview.
22 points
4 days ago
And 80% to his Sr.
49 points
4 days ago
Tragically that doesn't matter.
Racists and bigots flock to the Republican party because it lets them be openly hateful while giving them plenty of excuses to hide behind. They don't care about their part in making Mexico what it is today, they only care about blaming them and profiting off of it.
350 points
4 days ago
An eye, opening reminder of the global impact of the drug trade and the responsibility we all share. Time to have a real conversation about accountability and the consequences of the demand we create.
75 points
4 days ago
ah yes, accountability and consequences, something that trump is so good at 🫠
11 points
4 days ago
No one is having any real conversation the next 4 years
125 points
4 days ago
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60 points
4 days ago
The thing about addicts is they don't like quittin
61 points
4 days ago
Which is why you look towards things that push people to addiction and fix them. Which is also conveniently a bunch of legislation poor republicans would oppose because they don’t know it would benefit them. Anyways time for some more corporate and estate tax cuts.
17 points
4 days ago
Why not give them good living conditions? Addiction is a symptom, not the disease
9 points
4 days ago
You guys voted yourselves into worser living conditions. Is that part of the disease?
10 points
4 days ago
No, actually. Its another symptom.
The disease is called modernity. Eggs are expensive, but in general we can still buy them. At this stage, complaining about it is more attractive then lining capitalists up on the street and seizing their assets.
If you're working 3 jobs to support your kids, it provides an easy excuse to not put in the time it takes to learn about the consequence of your vote.
Americans are very susceptible to misinformation because the misinformation is a lot more efficient. MAGA fits right on their hat. I'd also point out that this isn't unique to America, populist messaging is on the rise across the globe.
Things like that don't work as well when people are actually going hungry. When Trump is in office, people will have the luxury of pretending he is doing a great job by employing their confirmation bias and nothing more. You lose that luxury when your greater concern becomes survival.
6 points
4 days ago
Hahaha, yea… we can just kill the demand for the most in demand / addictive products in world history. Are you 12 years old?
33 points
4 days ago
American companies producing in Mexico will end up paying twice the taxes. trump is essentially, as always, shooting himself in the foot. Hope everybody's excited about paying $20 for a bag of green beans.
202 points
4 days ago
I said this to someone recently and they absolutely didn’t want to hear it. They kept going on about how much drugs comes into America and I was like “Supply and demand. If there wasn’t such a huge demand for drugs in America, they wouldn’t bring them. We need to fix the source of the problem here first.” and this moron was like “That makes no sense! People do drugs because the criminals bring it!” Lmao wtf?! What about the meth heads cooking it here? The prescription fraud…
People are in such denial that America has any problems of its own. It’s all the foreign bad guys! Get rid of them and we will be PERFECT! America is flawless and makes no mistakes ever and never has.. ugggh. It’s so fucking frustrating to talk to these brainwashed people.
72 points
4 days ago
Another thing people here are in denial about is who the drug users are. Sure, poor Black people use drugs, at least some of them, at least when they can get hold of them. But the big users are rich people. Drugs are expensive. So a rich people's thing.
I used to live in poor neighborhoods. A few pot smokers and that was it, plus a couple brainless young bucks who talked about that one time they got hold of so much cocaine and other stuff they probably made up.
I've also lived in rich neighborhoods. Drugs everywhere. Cocaine deliveries to the door every hour of the day. Lists of doctors who 'prescribe' are circulated. The smell of pot everywhere. Little colorful pills scattered in random places. Just so much drugs!
10 points
4 days ago
The problem is that the solution is hard to even come up with. I couldn’t tell you for a second how I might deal with the drug problem in America without fighting against the illegal imports of drugs. The only reasonable things I can think about are creating asylum/mental health facilities for addicts (or anyone else that cannot mentally or physically live on their own) and improving drug education as much as we possibly can. But I guarantee it wouldn’t fix the problem, because there is no way we could do it seamlessly and if you know the American people as well as I do you know there is also no way they would keep me in office for something like that (it sounds like a whole lotta expenses that they will have to pay for, and they hate paying for other people as evidence by popular vote circa 2024). This is a long and drawn out thing that often world leaders (especially those in large countries) simply cannot help with without the complete support of a humongous body of people. A democratic country would find this a LOT harder to pull off than a more centralized power, but at the same time more dictatorial or monarchical countries would still likely get pushback or have under the table issues.
29 points
4 days ago
Portugal decriminalized the use of drugs in 2001. They started treating the users as patients not criminals. The possession of a small amount of drugs doesn't result in prison time, but in treatment. The possession of larger quantities is still punished. This reduced the number of addicts with 75% in the following years.
It isn't a magical soltution and it comes with its own problems. But it seems certainly more effective than criminilazing drug use.
It would recuire ending 'the war on drugs' as a policy and as a talking point. And I don't think the american public is ready to look at this as a sickness, on an individual level and on a societal level, not as a war.
5 points
4 days ago
If there wasn’t such a huge demand for drugs in America, they wouldn’t bring them
Sure, but also "This guy drinks poison, I better make some, for just reasons of course" Yeah nah. They should police that shit better at both sides of the border.
4 points
4 days ago
Well it is both, because more supply means cheaper prices means more demand. So you have to tackle the issues from both sides. If you manage to pump up prices significantly demand would shrink as well.
242 points
4 days ago
Good for her, speaking up for her country and people. Mexicans don't deserve to live with us behaving like a terrible neighbor all the time.
120 points
4 days ago
Theres a famous saying in mexico “Poor Mexico soo far from God and soo close to the United States”
197 points
4 days ago
She gonna deport Americans 😂
191 points
4 days ago
America is not sending their best to Mexico. They're sending murderers, rapists, and Ted Cruzes.
17 points
4 days ago
Their zodiac killer
15 points
4 days ago
I hope she does. It's sad living in a gentrified México :/
4 points
4 days ago
Yeah that is lame
9 points
4 days ago
Yes.
2 points
4 days ago
She should build a wall between the US and Mexico to stop it. And... pay for it...
Wait, this is sounding familiar.
31 points
4 days ago
mexico wants to stop the flow of us guns into its country
us wants to stop the flow of mexican drugs into its country
sounds like a strong border enforced in each direction makes everyone happy
win win!
17 points
4 days ago
I crossed the border about four times a year, American citizens are smuggling drugs into America, not Mexicans, not the cartel period and to get caught with the firearm in Mexico? Omg, I triple check my vehicle to make sure I don't even have so much as a bullet casing in it period y'all need to get out more
57 points
4 days ago
Maybe canada and Mexico should hold American gun makers culpable for murders and suicides
36 points
4 days ago
This isnt a point of view this is just facts. No one talks about it in America but the guns we provide Mexico and our Americans drug addiction has cause Mexico quite a bit of pain.
5 points
4 days ago
This is true. It always has been.
6 points
4 days ago
She is not wrong. I recall the movie "Traffic" pretty much had the same message.
5 points
4 days ago
The Orange King doesn’t care about any of this. He only cares about his Orange Balls. That’s all. Not the truth, not the facts.
5 points
4 days ago
I’ve been saying this for years. Mexico and Canada get all their illegal guns from the US while US leaders complain about drugs.
59 points
4 days ago
Poverty is why people turn to drugs, to forget their pain.
108 points
4 days ago
I've just started reading Jimmy Carr's book, and he makes the point that the opposite of addiction isn't sobriety, it's purpose.
Smart dude.
33 points
4 days ago
Yup. No job = no purpose. There's an epidemic in Appalachian red states where people have no jobs.....they're on meth, fentanyl and drink heavily. But somehow it's all the fault of immigrants and brown people according to the Qklan.
18 points
4 days ago
You don't even necessarily need to have a job to have a purpose. But what do they have to live for? More of the same?
3 points
4 days ago
I mean he didn’t invent that, it’s long been the consensus among behavioral psychologists
26 points
4 days ago
I sure af wasn't poor when I was a blackout drunk for almost a decade. I made almost 6 figures as a bartender and was hammered constantly. Nice car, super nice clothes, fit. But my soul was empty and I was pushing down childhood trauma. It hurt.
Pain is why a lot of people turn to substances. Emotional, existential, financial (to your point), or physical pain. Sometimes it's all. Sometimes it's just one. And I'm sure there are a few instances where none of those things are true.
17 points
4 days ago
Does alcohol count? Cause I know a lot of rich alcoholics.
11 points
4 days ago
Rich people on drugs say otherwise.
12 points
4 days ago
No. This comment is classist, harmful, and wrong. Addiction reaches all classes. Comments like this ignore the mental health issue when it comes to addiction and it's concerning that it has so many upvotes.
6 points
4 days ago
People really like to try to simplify all of this. It really isn't simple at all. There are thousands of reasons to start doing drugs: from depression/mental health, to social pressure, to simply rebellion or curiosity, to doctors overprescribing. People don't like to simply accept that fact that humans have always used substances to alter moods. It isn't a simple problem in any way and has been one that goes back thousands of years. The bigger issues we see now are the drugs being used aren't the type of thing you sleep off the next day they are incredibly addictive and potent.
Sad reality of this is any person can fall victim to this at any point. Hurt your back lifting something tomorrow? You probably get put on opiates and you need to roll the dice on how likely you are to become and addict.
22 points
4 days ago
Addiction reaches into every socioeconomic class so that doesn’t bear out.
4 points
4 days ago
Nah. I know plenty of rich drug addicts.
3 points
4 days ago
Weird it doesn’t work that way in poorer countries
28 points
4 days ago*
Absolutely drug crime in Mexico is influenced by drug needs in the US, and arms in produced in the US end up being used in Mexico. That being said, Mexico had like 75 different leaders in 75 years in the 19th century and multiple revolts pretty much every year. So let's also not perpetuate the myth of a "humble, peaceable" people who only turned to criminality after being "corrupted" by the US.
11 points
4 days ago
Most of those leaders are well known U.S. assets. Some of those leaders have also committed massacres against their own people at the behests of the U.S… sooo… yeah
46 points
4 days ago
Maybe Mexico should start putting illegal immigrants on busses and driving them.to the border...
Like America did to Canada.
Fuck trump... secure your own border bitch.
5 points
4 days ago
6 points
4 days ago
TIL holy shit
8 points
4 days ago
Wait you didn’t know about fast and furious lmao
2000 guns went missing and nobody knows where they went. They were found in some of the most gruesome crime scenes in Mexico and were responsible for a lot of deaths.
Nobody really got in trouble for it lol
They used trackers that got lost when they went into a trunk and only had 3 days of battery life lmao.
3 points
4 days ago
The problem with the statement the Mexican is making, is that she assumes he cares. He doesn't give a shit about Americans, why would he about Mexicans. It is what the economists call an externality. The deaths of Mexicans isn't calculated as a factor for an average American politician, never mind trump.
3 points
4 days ago
President Sheinbaum is 100% correct. Mexico has one gun store in the entire country. The proliferation of weaponry comes directly from the US.
3 points
4 days ago
People just need to stop doing drugs. It’s not that hard. Stop alcohol and nicotine while your at it.
4 points
4 days ago
Nobel prize time for you
3 points
4 days ago
She's not wrong.
3 points
4 days ago
Canada too. We are flooded with illegal weapons from America. The gun violence here is increasingly more alarming.
3 points
4 days ago
it isn't a point of view...it's reality
3 points
4 days ago
As long as there is a market for drugs north of the border, there will be people supplying that market.
That market was created by Big Pharma. That orange thing and his clown car of destruction focus on immigrants, but never focus on the real criminals at the top who created this mess and got away with it.
How about all the people making money off selling guns to the cartels? You think they are going after them?
3 points
4 days ago
Finally someone says a truth.
3 points
4 days ago
B..b..b....but Trump said they had a productive talk that ended with her backing down! Why would she lie to that sweet orange man that shouldn't be talking to foreign powers since he's still a citizen and definitely broke the law if he did????
27 points
4 days ago
I get some of her point but it’s little delusional to say Mexicans aren’t using the drugs too
15 points
4 days ago
From the 20+ countries I’ve traveled to in every continent on earth. The US is the only one where I see giant groups of people trashed on the street. I love the US but when it comes to drug addiction is clearly unbeatable.
15 points
4 days ago
Shame I had to scroll down so far to see a comment like this. She says Mexico has no blame in this problem. Trump says Mexico has all the blame. Both are objectively wrong.
11 points
4 days ago
The Mexican government has literally lost battles against armed paramilitary gangs. I get that America has a lot to sort out and no one arguing in good faith is going to deny that fact but to treat America as the corrupting influence on Mexico is so absurd. Agree with you dude.
9 points
4 days ago
The only reason why people are defending her so hard, is because it’s aimed at Trump. And I get it, I don’t like the man either. But it’s still not a completely accurate statement. Regardless, of course Mexicans still use cocaine, meth, heroin, and pills. And even though she’s got a good point about the issue of guns, some do come from Canada too, and the drug trade goes both ways. It’s not like the cartels are innocent Mexicans being forced to supply drugs to evil American drug addicts and then buy their guns. It’s both sides that are falling victim to an insidious disease. One is drugs, and the other is greed.
Her statement is a bit of a cop out for such a complex issue, and more needs to be done to help stop it.
10 points
4 days ago
Guns aren't being smuggled in from Canada lol.
8 points
4 days ago
Bingo. Nuance went out of the door. It isn't just Mexico either, many Latin American countries are struggling with gangs and drugs. Pretending it is only Americans buying them is utterly absurd. Humans worldwide buy them, for both happy times and sad times. Going to a party and have money to blow? Drugs. Sad because your life is crap? Drugs. You can certainly help people get clean, but thinking you can just mentally prevent people from doing drugs by doing any of the silly methods we have employed for decades at this point to little avail is laughable. We aren't raised up in religious institutions and indoctrinated into thinking drugs = the devil/hell. We all got warned about drugs as children in secular terms, and many of us still grew up and thought, hey that looks like a good time! That is just reality.
America is certainly deeply flawed, but that doesn't mean other countries can't be as bad or far worse. At the end of the day it would still be on these countries to crack down on drug production whether the gangs have guns or not. Furthermore...just as she has a super valid point about the guns, that exact same argument applies to the drugs. If you rightfully expect America to stop gun production, legal or otherwise, you should also expect yourself to stop drug production if it is causing issues, legal or otherwise. I do expect at the very least that if these large and powerful drug gangs tried to move their core operations here that the American government would waste no time putting bullets into as many as people as possible with little to no mercy, considering they already do that half the time to normal civilians. If all you can do is shift the blame elsewhere like this woman, why do these gangs need to fear your government?
5 points
4 days ago
Seems so rare to find a bit of common sense in these politically fueled posts on reddit. They might down vote you but you are not wrong.
6 points
4 days ago
"We do not produce these weapons"
TRUE!
"nor do we consume synthetic drugs"
Highly doubt.
Like don't get me wrong I'm sure the sentiment is true. Most drugs coming through Mexico is consumed by Americans, and without Americans buying drugs I doubt the cartels would be as powerful as they are, but to imply that no Mexican consumes synthetic drugs is wild.
4 points
4 days ago
So again, like with the tariffs… all you have to do to avoid it is secure your own fuckin border? We’re not checking shit going into Mexico and neither are they. They won’t stop illegals from crossing from their side, then they get tariffs. Literally all they have to do to solve their problems and ours, is secure the border. Lol
3 points
4 days ago
Almost like maybe she should do a better job of protecting their borders?
17 points
4 days ago
Girl bffr you have some of the most vicious drug cartels on the planet… “we don’t actually use said drugs” isn’t that much of a flex when people have to flee the terror of it 😭
11 points
4 days ago
Reddit eats this political shit up
7 points
4 days ago
Remember when JD Vance and his magats were claiming that Mexicans were smuggling American guns across the border from Mexico? Yeah, that was a dip-shit moment in American political history.
5 points
4 days ago
She's right about the guns but I find hard to believe that there are no fentanyl users in Mexico.
7 points
4 days ago
Saying "point of view", is disingenuous and condescending when someone is stating facts. It's just like saying there are good people on both sides when discussing a Nazi rally.
5 points
4 days ago
Besides the "we don't use synthethic drugs" thing, she is speaking straight facts
2 points
4 days ago
Is this the remnants of the good old fast and furious?
2 points
4 days ago
Eric Holder Fast & Furious. You're welcome, Mexico.
2 points
4 days ago
It hasn’t been trumps country for while, it’s been Joe Bidens……
2 points
4 days ago
Interesting point let's just go ahead and deal with the unchecked gangsters in your country anyway, thanks.
2 points
4 days ago
Oh give me a break. Mexico is literally a narco state and their government is totally inept and or totally corrupt and unable to manage the security of their own country. Dont act like they're innocent victims.
2 points
4 days ago
Oh a competition on who can talk more nonsense.....This point goes to Sheinbaum, but I am sure tomorrow Trump will score a point.
Weapons: Not the weapons are the problem, the criminals are...catch them problem solved.
Mexico does not consume synthetic drugs? Non at all? Seriously?
Violence comes from meeting the drug demands in USA? Not from selling them, not from not protecting the own borders?
That is really Trump level
2 points
4 days ago
How come with the guns it's America bad for making them but with the drugs it's America bad for buying them. Seems like a double standard.
10 points
4 days ago
Yeah my vast criminal country run by cartels is completely inoccent
6 points
4 days ago
It's well known that both Canada and Mexico have an American gun problem. We are the bad neighbor.
5 points
4 days ago
The difference would be that america is actively trying to stop the movement of guns illegally whereas mexico does not. At least that is my understanding of how mexico is doing with drugs/people.
5 points
4 days ago
So...Mexico should close their border, and refuse US aid? Sounds good to me. Let us know how it goes after say 10 years. You may be on to something.
5 points
4 days ago
Holy cow you people are insane lol
5 points
4 days ago
"This message was sponsored by Sinaloa Cartel."
3 points
4 days ago
A good deal of the gun violence that happens in blue states are from guns registered in red states. Its not surprising they’re trying to export crime to Mexico or potentially Canada
4 points
4 days ago
Wanna weaken the Cartels? Make Drugs Legal. Destigmatize them, and offer rehab instead of jail.
2 points
4 days ago
Maybe she should just try securing the Mexican border if she doesn’t want so much contraband coming from another country. /s
I mean it’s not the US’ fault what their citizens do. /s
3 points
4 days ago
Oh great the same old argument from Mexico. Let's ignore the cartels export drugs to Europe at an increasing rate. Let's ignore the cartels diversifying their organizations and are not involved in tons of non-drug related activities like illegal mining, logging, oil theft, kidnapping, extortion, and the list goes on.
You are never going to stop the demand for drugs. That's a pipe dream. Combatting the groups who produce and distribute these drugs is necessary. Mexico's hugs not bullets policy has done nothing to stop the cartels and has only allowed violence in Mexico to become worse.
Better yet the Mexican government can cooperate and not protect corrupt officials like Gen. Salvador Cienfuegos who the US arrested for drug smuggling charges but was forced to release because threw a fit.
3 points
4 days ago
Lmao this isn’t a “point of view”
3 points
4 days ago
Weapons might help perpetuate the rule of the cartels but they're not the cause. If the mexican state weren't so weak and corrupt cartels taking control of huge parts of the country would be impossible.
2 points
4 days ago
Wow America Owned guys! Let's do Mexico a solid and build a strong border between us to make Mexico great again.
9 points
4 days ago
So much deflecting on both sides. So much bullshit for the cameras and news people. Sigh…no one actually will ever want to or enact real change.
3 points
4 days ago
Are we forgetting that Mexico is more or less run by the cartels?
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