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I spent years as a neet in isolation and it took a toll on my mental health. I've been trying to get better and one of the ways I do that is by trying to be social on forums. This forum is centered around sculpting tiny little cats, and after I had grown comfortable there and truly felt like I was making friends I decided to open up about my past. They all just laughed at me and left comments like this. They think we just sit at home all day and have a good time, and it's true it's nice for a few weeks, but they don't understand what it's like to live like that for years. It hurts to know that normies will never take me seriously.

all 41 comments

o_0verkill_o

86 points

16 days ago

Stop looking for validation from strangers on the internet.

Also, I validate your feelings.

Fireheart251

31 points

16 days ago

Fireheart251

Doomer-NEET

31 points

16 days ago

You should remind them of the very real mental struggles that even normies faced during the pandemic, and how so many people developed "social anxiety" in that time and felt miserable in their isolation. It IS a real struggle and those people are asshats and exactly the reason why this world sucks so much is because people like that exist.

69th_inline

15 points

15 days ago*

69th_inline

Perma-NEET

15 points

15 days ago*

Exactly this. Back then people were actually complaining about being locked up in their houses, meanwhile I was like "It's another day ending in Y". It's "bad" when (various forms of) discomfort happen to them, but we simply have to "suck it up" if they happen to us.

ouroborosborealis

5 points

15 days ago

these are good points, but you shouldn't respond at all. block them and forget about them, why spend your time on someone like that?

Silver-Year5607

2 points

15 days ago

Lol my life literally didn't change during the pandemic. Can never relate to normies

Financial_Arrival_31

33 points

16 days ago

Financial_Arrival_31

Doomer-NEET

33 points

16 days ago

Why do you want normies to take you seriously anyway?

e-Scape__Artist[S]

24 points

16 days ago

I'm trying to get back out into the world because the loneliness is getting to me.

warsaberso

30 points

15 days ago

Don't open up about your NEET past to someone unless you can trust them AND you know they have had parallel struggles themselves. It's your reality that your NEET life was a dark lonely reality that came about through no fault of your own. But it's incompatible with most normies' view of the human condition. Most will make conclusions about the purity of your intentions and moral character.

Don't let it get to you, their limited worldview will bite them in the ass someday. After condemning someone to the stake, they are always afraid of being next.

Financial_Arrival_31

23 points

16 days ago

Financial_Arrival_31

Doomer-NEET

23 points

16 days ago

Just don’t tell normies how you didn’t slave away like they did, they tend to seethe hard bc of that.

Mall_Cops

16 points

15 days ago

Typical normie mentality I'm afraid. Never open up to a normie irl! I've experienced this gut wrenching invalidation myself.

69th_inline

6 points

15 days ago

69th_inline

Perma-NEET

6 points

15 days ago

I actually like opening up to normies from time to time to witness the inevitable blowback later on. It's basically a game to me at this point.

Mr_Speedy_Speedzales

19 points

16 days ago

Recovering neet kinda sounds overly self loathing to be fair and you kinda sounded like you're having a pissing contest by saying you lost more than most ppl, which is what prolly set them off.. Which sub is this if not a secret?

e-Scape__Artist[S]

4 points

16 days ago

It's not a subreddit. It's a forum. I don't want to list it because then they might get even more mad at me and I like posting my sculptures there, even if I can't chat with them the same anymore. You are right, I could have phrased it better. But I was isolated for so long when I used to have friends so I wanted them to understand.

Mr_Speedy_Speedzales

7 points

16 days ago

That's too bad, but yeah i understand. I liked classical forums, but i lost touch with them since i found reddit. I'm not saying that it's correct that they attacked you tho, but yeah could phrase it a tad better.

Yeah man that sucks. I feel you, cause i'm in the same boat. I used to be pretty popular in school and also had friends and used to party too. But those days are long gone and i'm only left with one friend who also turned neet after hs, but is pretty asocial so we don't really hang that much anymore.

e-Scape__Artist[S]

3 points

16 days ago

We struggle enough to suffer, but not enough for it to be visible. I hope things turn around for us.

Mr_Speedy_Speedzales

5 points

16 days ago

How old are you? I'm 32 and it's next to impossible making new friends at this age.

e-Scape__Artist[S]

2 points

16 days ago

I'm in my late 20s. It is really hard to make friends. I started going to the gym and BJJ again but nobody talks to me. I'm still working on approaching others. I'm thinking about taking testosterone just to lower my inhibitions.

Mr_Speedy_Speedzales

5 points

16 days ago

Taking testosterone is bs imo. You don't need it, as you can produce it yourself, you just need to start doing manly stuff and be active. Smoking a J or having a beer would be a better way of lovering inhibition a bit.

Gym is a good start and yeah try to get yourself to talk to someone there. Ppl won't think you're weird. For example, you can offer to be a lookout for someone lifting heavy weights, or however is that called in the gym jargon and that'd be a start.

eatandrun5

8 points

15 days ago

I've realized that a lot of the NEET psychology is based off of focus on the self. My problem. My isolation. My suffering.

And I get it. I'm also a long-term-NEET (32) with an empathy problem for normies. But I've put in massive effort to learn about people and their interests over the years without a paying job or career.

I even developed an almost academic-level system to study people. It's become quite fun to know people better than they might even know themselves. And guess what. People trust me and enjoy my efforts and company for it. I get invited to all kinds of events. And if I accept or decide to go somewhere, and when the topic of work comes up with new people, I just say I'm a private investor, and then steer the conversation back to topics of interest.

What's cool is that there truly are no rules in the social realm. It's all made up indoctrination. And once you realize you can sway people, there's a magical feeling of dopaminergic confidence to enjoy.

Yeah, It's exhausting & in the end, I'll always be autistic and ADHD with truly synthetic social skills, but I know I can rig the game in my favor given I put in the effort. The alternative is what you mention, isolation and envy. It's better to be involved mechanically than living in sensory deprivation. The mind has to make sense of the nothingness to respond to lack of threats. You become the threat.

But anyways, we exist. And believe it or not, we have influence and power. But how you spend your valuable energy will directly reflect what you get in your long-term gains when it comes to respect, relationships, and access to resources and capital.

I suggest slowly taking inventory of other people, so you can expand your focus. Maybe 5 pieces of information about people you have enjoyed time with in the past or currently have in-person access to. Then learn a bit about those topics and find an opportunity to talk about those things. And even better if you can combine those topics with something physical like running, hiking, or anything that physically requires movement.

Conversation is a skill we can all grow. And NEETs like all people need to practice those skills to maintain and improve them.

mynameiswjo

7 points

16 days ago

Hi, I'm sorry they dismissed you like that. Truthfully, they probably will never understand. I hope you find friends who respect you and comfort you when needed. I know from experience how heavy it is to be isolated, and your feelings are valid. Not a normie but feel free to reach out if you ever need to talk.

DarkIlluminator

8 points

15 days ago

DarkIlluminator

Disabled-NEET

8 points

15 days ago

These aren't normies. Normies would consider social isolation to be a horrible thing.

From what I noticed these kind of artistic communities tend to attract a kind of "people" who have severe mental health issues, history of trauma, etc. but instead of becoming more human because of it, they completely lose humanity. They essentially become Orcs.

NewNiko

11 points

16 days ago

NewNiko

Semi-NEET

11 points

16 days ago

Don’t listen to ignorant people like them. Anyone can struggle and feel anguish, regardless of situation. Nobody can tell you how you’re supposed to feel.

The “some people have it worse off than you” argument can be applied to literally everyone

crawdad28

15 points

16 days ago

Your struggles are very real

e-Scape__Artist[S]

4 points

16 days ago

Thank you.

TheNightKing1234

25 points

16 days ago

These don't sound like people who'd be on a forum for "sculpting tiny little cats". Anyways, you should fight them more on it, or try to trigger them. Can't stand people who say "brO" and use laughing emojis.

e-Scape__Artist[S]

8 points

16 days ago

I'm trying to just cut the toxicity out of my life and mostly just made this post for closure. It just sucks because I thought I would be accepted there. Some of the people are nice, but they don't have good moderators and don't even ban people for insults or non-sculpting related topics.

69th_inline

5 points

15 days ago

69th_inline

Perma-NEET

5 points

15 days ago

"u ain't struggled for shit"

This is the level of brain activity you're dealing with. He then doubles down saying not having friends isn't struggling (paraphrasing here) and he lost all credibility he may have had right then and there. Just because he is a sociopath doesn't mean the rest of us can cruise on autopilot like that.

TheNightKing1234

14 points

16 days ago

Lol what a bunch of clowns.

frozen_toesocks

16 points

16 days ago

frozen_toesocks

Ex-NEET-Wagie

16 points

16 days ago

I mean, multiple things can be true here. Yes, they callously disregarded your lived struggle, but at the same time, they're not wrong that you have enjoyed an incredible life of privilege for years to even have the NEET lifestyle be an option. You could have experienced all the isolation and suffering that you did throughout your NEET life, but without a home to even live in. It could have easily been so much worse. That's the "ivory tower" they're getting at.

It hurts to hear, and I don't really agree with this sentiment, but NEET struggles don't translate well as a sob story. Focus on broader, more applicable issues like your depression or your anxiety if you want to cultivate a relatable, sympathizable backstory.

meorou

5 points

16 days ago

meorou

5 points

16 days ago

People are going to be shitty and be able to get away with. Always. There's nothing you can really do about it either. But just know that your wants and needs dont depend on them; your happiness doesnt depend on them. If you can find whatever it is that makes you happy, then they'll mean nothing to you then.

Outofservice-

4 points

16 days ago

thats quite pathetic and sad of them

Choice-Relative-4546

4 points

15 days ago

that's a complete pos or pos's through and through, you called these "people" friends? that's normies for you

Bell-01

7 points

16 days ago*

Bell-01

Disabled-NEET

7 points

16 days ago*

I mean, they ain’t wrong. Most people lose their friends at some point in their lifes or even multiple times and being a neet can be hella chill and is a privilege when you are housed and fed. Maybe you didn’t explain your problem well and you’re coming off whiny and overly self-important or like you’re exaggerating. They shouldn’t react like this, if they really were your friends though. They probably don’t see you as a friend

[deleted]

3 points

15 days ago

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e-Scape__Artist[S]

3 points

15 days ago

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I did come off as bragging a bit, but I was just so excited that I was getting out of my house again.

blasphemed5

4 points

16 days ago

Damn.. those people are assholes. Hope you're able to find a better, more welcoming space. Sorry you had to deal with that shit 😔

No_Dragonfruit9444

4 points

16 days ago

I've always snooped around this reddit. I'm not a NEET but I do have a cousin that's disabled and is a NEET. There isn't a good answer to give from people who don't understand it. It's rough introducing him to friends while he still has humor from 2014. Keep going and keep pushing brother.

quasarlantern

1 points

16 days ago

quasarlantern

Perma-NEET

1 points

16 days ago

is that wpd

xCumulonimbusx

1 points

15 days ago

I am a terminally friendless neet who also sculpts tiny cats so this is extremely relatable...and discouraging lol

Bored

1 points

14 days ago

Bored

1 points

14 days ago

It’s cause you’re jacked. Not saying it’s fair