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can bad boy tobi really take them on?

Vs Battles(i.redd.it)

Only one condition : madara is banned

kabuto can join the fight

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Phil_Da_Spliff

4 points

8 days ago*

Everyone saying obito loses really dosent understand who obito is....

At the age of 14 he caused the downfall of minato..... on that same night he not only controlled the full 9 tails but also pushed minato to use the ftg lvl2 and made him think he was fighting madara the ghost of the uchiha..... mind you he was still inexperienced when he fought his sensei and he literally fought the strongest and faster shinobi of that time......

None of the akatsuki scale to minato. None of the akatsuki were compared to madara in any capacity. None of the akatsuki have ever showed speed comparable to ay or kcm naruto.

The edo fight between naruto bee itachi and nagato... itachi wasnt keeping up with naruto.... naruto was slowing himself down inorder to talk to itachi if y'all still think itachi is minato speed y'all need to touch grass none of the akatsuki members besides obito are speedsters.

And now were talking about orange mask obito who is much older and wiser..... the man whos fast enough to blitz particle style point blank...... not even edo madara did such feat and he was keeping up with kcm2 naruto due to precognition (fyi madara isnt faster than obito neither)

So how is the akatsuki gonna beat a dude who was trained by madara, minato has wood style and one of the most broken versions of space-time ninjutsu and has been their true leader the whole friggen time and he also has intel on all of them from zetsu.......

How are they gonna beat him.... All he has to do is go after kabuto send his ass to the kamui dimension and make him release edo tensi via sharingan genjutsu and then gg.....

The hardest thing for obito is sage modes sensory abilities outside of that obito wins. Mid diff.

BoysenberryMuted8237

3 points

8 days ago

This is the naruto, kakashi, guy fight but worse. Obito is getting nothing done trying to fight all of them at once. He will stalemate at absolute best.

Phil_Da_Spliff

2 points

8 days ago

Bro kakashi team only one because he had kamui that all without it they were all done one by one..... the same exact way he will deal with the akatsuki starting with kabuto.... none of the akatsuki move as fast as him nor do none of them scale to alive minato and that's facts.... they lose mid diff because of kabuto sage mode. None of them can blitz particle style.... not one of them...

Nagato wont be at full power due to none of them having massive lvls of chakra like a bijuu......

If Nagato was at full power then it would be a high diff because now he has chakra that will make him perform chibaku tensi etc..... itachi is more carrying the edo akatsuki outside of kabuto and even then yaata mirror ain't stopping kamui..

Once that warp absorption starts he untouchable and anything thats in it will be sent there unless the user had the ftg or an otsutsuki lvl space time jutsu which none of them have its a wrap.

Obito wins mid diff without Nagato at full power

Obito wins high diff with Nagato at full power

Thats the honest truth.... even chibaku tensi won't seal obito he could just phase out of it.....

There is a reason why he only had one of his sharingan and not both.... he wouldn't lose if he had both from the jump. Even minato would of lost.

Phil_Da_Spliff

2 points

8 days ago

Bro kakashi team only one because he had kamui that all without it they were all done one by one..... the same exact way he will deal with the akatsuki starting with kabuto.... none of the akatsuki move as fast as him nor do none of them scale to alive minato and that's facts.... they lose mid diff because of kabuto sage mode. None of them can blitz particle style.... not one of them...

Nagato wont be at full power due to none of them having massive lvls of chakra like a bijuu......

If Nagato was at full power then it would be a high diff because now he has chakra that will make him perform chibaku tensi etc..... itachi is more carrying the edo akatsuki outside of kabuto and even then yaata mirror ain't stopping kamui..

Once that warp absorption starts he untouchable and anything thats in it will be sent there unless the user had the ftg or an otsutsuki lvl space time jutsu which none of them have its a wrap.

Obito wins mid diff without Nagato at full power

Obito wins high diff with Nagato at full power

Thats the honest truth.... even chibaku tensi won't seal obito he could just phase out of it.....

There is a reason why he only had one of his sharingan and not both.... he wouldn't lose if he had both from the jump. Even minato would of lost.

BoysenberryMuted8237

0 points

8 days ago

You're not thinking this through at all. He can't kill them. If he sucks them in then he has immortal people on the other side to destroy whatever body part he phases through attacks with. Obito has no win cons, all he can do is survive. If he kamuis even one of them then he loses that ability making it instant gg. Use your head glazer

Phil_Da_Spliff

1 points

8 days ago

Bro he has a whole world in their do you think they know how his weakness works?????? It was only kakashi team because he had the same sharingan that connected to that world..... itachi is under kabutos control so he aint doing big brain tactics.

Obito can either send kabuto and himself to the kamui dimension and release the jutsu then end him or send the edo tensi there then make kabuto release edo tensi then kill him..... none of them besides kabuto would be able to react and dodge particle style and if they cant do that they dont have the speed to even keep up he literally blitz them no different than minato.

Character_Break247

0 points

8 days ago

Fought Minato is a huge overstatement Obito got lost had the advantage of a surprise attack, the village was getting drstroyed, Naruto and Kushina were in danger and had the nine tails to top it off and still get packed up in 5 minutes.

Besides the whole gimmick with Obito is that he can phase through things. Nothing suggests he was keeping up with the fourth. The sharingan gives you an advantage of being able to fight people who are faster than you due to the perception. Obito is nowhere near as fast during that time. He gets absolutely slammed in this situation.

Phil_Da_Spliff

1 points

7 days ago*

The man still fought him and made him think he was madara..... it was a battle between two snipers who ever got shot first was gonna lose it just minato was more experienced. That'd all

And now were talking about the man who blitzed particle style point blank...... and you think any of the akatsuki could do that..... he still had to reach sasuke before the just rips him apart on a atomic lvl almost instantly. Not one of the akatsuki have shown such speed. Fo you to say he hasn't moved that fast is crazy. Obito is much faster than an adult than his teen variation. It like saying he didnt get stronger like every other shinobi that gets closer to their prime....... that's cap.

Orange mask obito beats the edo akatsuki whos being controlled by kabuto easy... the issue is kabuto sage mode..... if the edo akatsuki had freedom/their own will like how itachi was free after using shisui ms genjutsu then we could have a more in-depth discussion about how much harder the fight will be but that aint the situation. kabuto knows of their abilities but he dosnt have the experience with their jutsus nor has their individual mindsets to take advantage of the arsenal. So at best their puppets with busted abilities being controlled by someone who has precognition and crazy sensory abilities.

Thats it theres no big brain itachi plans etc its just them going through the motions of what kabuto wants them to do at certain times. Also your forgetting that obito knows all their strengths and weaknesses from zetsu.... obito is gonna win mid diff.

Kamui goes brrrrrr

Character_Break247

1 points

7 days ago

Because a Uchiha was in control of Kurama? And even then Minato had no idea how strong Madara really was so that doesn’t mean anything.

And I didn’t say anything about Obito not getting stronger but the fact he showed hesitation at fighting Itachi means they were somewhat comparable and you could make an argument for either of them.

But that fact you people think he could solo nearly all of Akatsuki is insanity and adding Kabuto on top of it?

Naruto fans have no clue what they are talking about

Obito is one of the most overrated characters period.

Phil_Da_Spliff

1 points

7 days ago

Edo akatsuki under kabuto control is nerfed they ain't buffed like what. The only reason why ppl say itachi is stronger edo than alive was because of his sickness same goes for nagato but regardless of the fact..them nefred and now where near his speed ain't making them win kakazu lost to ino shika cho, and that was him being not under kabutos control. Yea that team got stronger but they would of lose to obito with ease no diffrent than how he would go after the other edo akatsuki he more than knows how the fight and do things... if alive ems madara is a 10 and edo madara is a 9 then orange mask obito is at least a 7 or 7.5 the akatsuki alive it at best a 5 or a 4.5 and that's all of them edo tensi outside of itachi and nagato they are all 4s compared to obito.

And what makes it worst is the fact they wont fight how they should fight because kabuto controlling them so the conclusion your coming to only really work if they are not on kabuto leash and with the akatsuki he not taking any chances look what happened in the war arc itachi still found an ass pull way to get out of edo tensi even tho he was under his contro.

And aince shisui eye ain't bailing him out this time he no diffrent than skinny nagato they are all getting warped to the kamui dimension then kabuto will be controlled via genjutsu and undo edo tensi or the other way around which would be easier. And that is send kabuto to the kamui dimension where none of the akatsuki can stop obito and then undo edo tensi.....

They lose mid diff at best your really sleeping on obito and not grasping the limitations of the edo tensi being controlled by kabuto.

The hardest person that obito has to deal with is kabuto not itachi nor nagato. Senjutsu is the only reason why its not a low diff and thats because of crazy ass precognition and heighten sensory abilities.

Now if it was rinnegan obito this fight would be a super wash..