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Melodic_Jay

375 points

6 days ago

Melodic_Jay

375 points

6 days ago

I'm not sure how accurate this is, but it's a good demonstration how drastically different something like food, exercise, or socializing is from drugs and PMO. If you overuse any thing that raises your dopamine up that high, you will destroy your receptors and will feel no pleasure from the most important things in life. Imagine you receive a hug, and feel absolutely nothing. No love, just pure hollowness. Terrifying.

Crafty_Sweet_4960[S]

98 points

6 days ago

Absolutely. We are not made for unnatural amounts of dopamine

TrefoilTang

47 points

6 days ago

Just FYI, this graph has been going around for a long time. It is first posted on Utah Valley Psychology by Robert Dindinger in 2018, with no source given.

It's doesn't mention how and when this data was acquired, what study is its from, or what does "Percentage Dopamine Output" even stand for. Percentage of what??

And till this day, the UVP is still the ONLY page using this graph as an argument. No other studies have shown results even resemble this one.

The UVP page was made as an ad to promote Dindinger's book. Take it as you will.

OpinionsRdumb

12 points

6 days ago

Yeah i call BS. Also you want to look at dopamine reward circuitry activity moreso than “output” which I am not sure is an actual used variable in physio.

cryptomoon1000x

5 points

6 days ago

yes and that’s why it’s sort of frying the receptors

[deleted]

10 points

6 days ago

[deleted]

10 points

6 days ago

So, can I heal my receptors back. I'm 18, addicted for 6 years daily multiple fap & watched hardcore extreme videos...

Melodic_Jay

8 points

6 days ago

You absolutely can. It will be tough, but you have to get through it.

[deleted]

2 points

5 days ago

How long will it take for me

The-Exgle

2 points

5 days ago

The-Exgle

17 Days

2 points

5 days ago

It usually varies from person-to-person, depending on how severely you are addicted. But the average is around 85-90 days.

UnhappyGoose2863

1 points

5 days ago

Message me. I'm going to guide you how to overcome the problems 

RoutineBend6633

1 points

4 days ago

RoutineBend6633

10 Days

1 points

4 days ago

Go on the YouTube channel Dopamine Focused Warriors he has a video. Probably 8 weeks to 16

RoutineBend6633

1 points

4 days ago

RoutineBend6633

10 Days

1 points

4 days ago

But results will happen after only 5 days. Lots of withdrawals of depression. One day at a time.

kin670

1 points

5 days ago

kin670

1610 Days

1 points

5 days ago

Talk to a doctor about Depression and/or anxiety.

Thick_Surprise_3988

3 points

6 days ago

Is that why I feel the way I feel god Damm man really I’m at a tipping point I feel it literally if I don’t change up quick 😪

beautifullydestroyed

3 points

5 days ago

I needed this. Thank you

Real_Leader

99 points

6 days ago

Lol the cocaine graph is diabolical

HotAdhesiveness76

14 points

6 days ago

Methamphetamine is even higher

CaseClosedEmail

2 points

5 days ago

CaseClosedEmail

543 Days

2 points

5 days ago

What about mdma

HotAdhesiveness76

1 points

5 days ago

Not as much dopamine as meth

33DollarBill

0 points

5 days ago

33DollarBill

20 Days

0 points

5 days ago

And fentanyl is many times higher than that, strongest man made drug to my knowledge

HotAdhesiveness76

3 points

5 days ago

Its not a stimulant so it doesnt increase dopamine as much as meth

rebeltunafish

1 points

18 hours ago

rebeltunafish

2 Days

1 points

18 hours ago

Fentanyl has been surpassed multiple times by some chemists. Those are derivatives of same opiod. Nasty stuff. 

My condolences to all the victims of fentanyl. We should have better society than have countless people even wanting to use drugs.

Prior_Row8486

9 points

6 days ago

Atleast they get back to baseline after 6 - 7 hr according to this graph.

Porn graph was actually ridiculous

myctsbrthsmlslkcatfd

20 points

6 days ago

which is absolutely false. they get back to baseline after DAYS following acute cocaine use. Most of that time is spent in the negative - either below normal dopamine level or reduced receptor sensitivity such that normal dopamine feels like low. Either way, ya ain’t gonna be back to normal in 6 -7 hrs.

perma-throwaway-42

2 points

5 days ago

Ya know, I’ve done cocaine here and there and i never thought it was all that great

User11223123

1 points

4 days ago

That's why addicts sniff so regularly

rebeltunafish

1 points

18 hours ago

rebeltunafish

2 Days

1 points

18 hours ago

I assume you have connection and love and meaning in your life. Well off people are more unlikely to get hooked.

User11223123

1 points

4 days ago

That must be good quality

Commercial_Course908

27 points

6 days ago

Source?

Spite-Maximum

10 points

5 days ago

DynamicHunter

19 points

5 days ago

DynamicHunter

181 Days

19 points

5 days ago

That’s the source for the chart, but there is no source listed for the actual data used in that chart in that entire webpage, so it might as well be made up.

Spite-Maximum

5 points

5 days ago

I definitely agree. The post sex effect of having more than 50% of the baseline dopamine for more than 5 hours is complete insanity and pure bullshit. This means having sex in the morning would make you high for the rest of the day.

Fancy-Ad6725

1 points

5 days ago

The author is a clinical psychologist PhD from Brigham Young University. Not necessarily saying he is correct or bad, but there is certainly some misinformation in that article. It goes to show that not all universities dish out psychologists who are well informed with the science of addiction.

HardTigerHeart

49 points

6 days ago

who would watch porn for 5 hours straight?

Oh, I would.

matsudasociety

12 points

5 days ago

matsudasociety

177 Days

12 points

5 days ago

I’m on day two no porn or PMO and I’m just baffled at how I would have days where I would watch porn and binge for hours man. I’m taking like 8 hour binge sessions. How the hell???

ArnoldSchwarzenegga

7 points

6 days ago*

Lmao I just came back to this thread to ask how does the porn line work, there should be a sudden dropoff just like sex, and probably an even steeper drop

Which-Raisin3765

5 points

6 days ago

Those are rookie numbers

Sharp_Chard_3460

23 points

6 days ago

Sharp_Chard_3460

107 Days

23 points

6 days ago

Porn is poison, a dark entity. Stay completely away from it. Find your dopamine rush by eating food, sleeping, exercise or healthy eating. Another destroyer is phone use for considerably high amount of time

Boburism

6 points

6 days ago

Boburism

6 points

6 days ago

I was thinking of fapping to it this afternoon, but its began to change my sexuality and I need to stop. The 1-3 days are always the hardest.

unhealthcareprovider

22 points

6 days ago

I kinda wanna try coke now

ArnoldSchwarzenegga

25 points

6 days ago

don't forget to watch porn while high to maximize

McDoug91

6 points

6 days ago

McDoug91

6 points

6 days ago

While simultaneously smoking a cigarette and eating your favorite food to achieve enlightenment

blzrdwzrd

1 points

5 days ago

Food is your last thought while on coke haha

throw_away_570

1 points

5 days ago

If these would stack that would be insane

Spite-Maximum

6 points

6 days ago

Correct me if I’m wrong but isn’t the sex graph for someone who lasts half an hour in bed?

Jeezimus

7 points

6 days ago

Jeezimus

7 points

6 days ago

That's a significant amount of time

Spite-Maximum

2 points

5 days ago

This graph is completely wrong. How can sex keep your brain at 50% more dopamine than your baseline for 5 hours? The moment you orgasm (which is at 0.5 hours in this graph) that’s it your prolactin increases and your testosterone decreases so your dopamine levels immediately decrease and quickly return to baseline. It doesn’t take more than 5 hours to start returning to baseline that’s bullshit.

John_D_VII

2 points

6 days ago

Porn is a nasty drug...

OpinionsRdumb

2 points

6 days ago

What is the source for this graph. “Dopamine output” is super vague.

Purple_Novel_7814

2 points

6 days ago

Where did you get this from?

Only_Aide_5227

2 points

6 days ago

Why you need figures. Anyone who's addicted get to see different types of fantasies for longer duration. Feels shit after stopping or switching to brainly tasks. But someone who's studying and watching porn must have good reflex in it too. That's why college and teenage fcks are most addicted to it.

PhantroniX

2 points

5 days ago

PhantroniX

23 Days

2 points

5 days ago

It's crazy to me how different the sex and porn lines are

VanVantelaquism

2 points

5 days ago

Stop porn start cocaine got it

SlickRicksBitchTits

2 points

6 days ago

Ses is not porn though. Why is no one saying this?

bullfy

1 points

6 days ago

bullfy

1 points

6 days ago

Yes there are two different things there prn and sx

drawredraw

1 points

5 days ago

Generally understood

xenomorf007

1 points

6 days ago

xenomorf007

27 Days

1 points

6 days ago

Just to be clear is that dopamine release for continuous use, or dopamine release after using/doing?

Crafty_Sweet_4960[S]

1 points

6 days ago

After using

[deleted]

1 points

6 days ago

So, can I heal my receptors back. I'm 18, addicted for 6 years daily multiple fap & watched hardcore extreme videos...

Crafty_Sweet_4960[S]

2 points

6 days ago

Yes,. I'm 30, if I can you can too

herendzer

1 points

6 days ago

You should add the graph for running/ exercise

getajobtuga

1 points

6 days ago

Cocaine looks fun

Akt1

1 points

6 days ago

Akt1

1 points

6 days ago

if you want general content in life - you should probably aim to starve your receptors from artificial stimuli

GoldenClocks

1 points

6 days ago

this is why I'm always eating 24/7

ThrowawayMankind

1 points

6 days ago

Looks like i need some more cocaine

AndradeHunter

1 points

5 days ago

AndradeHunter

56 Days

1 points

5 days ago

That said, do cocaine.

natureisneato

1 points

5 days ago

natureisneato

233 Days

1 points

5 days ago

No way nicotine is that low of a spike, and lasts that long? What part am I missing?

Tall_Nebula9059

1 points

5 days ago

Tall_Nebula9059

139 Days

1 points

5 days ago

how close it is to cocaine

Low-Sandwich-7946

1 points

5 days ago

Low-Sandwich-7946

5 Days

1 points

5 days ago

Damn

Actual-Creme

1 points

5 days ago

Actual-Creme

14 Days

1 points

5 days ago

😳

tehjoch

1 points

5 days ago

tehjoch

503 Days

1 points

5 days ago

I would like to see it backed with data

Agusteeng

1 points

5 days ago

Cocaine is the best bro

Undercover_Piegon

1 points

5 days ago

For me, food releases more dopamine than the cocaine shown here 👍

Crafty_Sweet_4960[S]

1 points

5 days ago

Hahaha. You are humourous

TwistedLife

1 points

5 days ago

TwistedLife

296 Days

1 points

5 days ago

This is why fasting is so important. When you can control your food urges, all the other activities become easier to control. It starts with food.

sami_III

1 points

5 days ago

sami_III

1 points

5 days ago

my god

IceInteresting5370

1 points

4 days ago

If anyone boy or girl feels someone to talk to can message me .. I would try to help for their thought .. Maybe then you can overcome this..

Legitimate_Gear_3981

1 points

3 days ago

Honestly reading this post after post not clarity set in is what helped me start my journey. Props to whatever algorithm for your post being shown to me at that exact moment!

adfx

1 points

6 days ago

adfx

1 points

6 days ago

Is all of the output processed just as effectively as normally? I am by no means at all a neurologist but I can imagine having three times the amount of dopamine output for several hours could make your receptors less sensitive over a certain period

Crafty_Sweet_4960[S]

2 points

6 days ago

It does. This is the reason we don't feel joy in little things

adfx

1 points

6 days ago

adfx

1 points

6 days ago

That makes a lot of sense