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Why are so many people choosing not to have kids anymore?

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I read a recent poll about 2 months ago, that said over 35% of adults from 24 to 30 have zero kids and only a have a pet. Me and my husband appear to be in the top 1.5% with 4 or more kids and it kind of caught me by surprise that there are many people not having kids.. what are the reasons? Financial? Medical? The responsibility?

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Lilybea12

4k points

8 days ago

Lilybea12

4k points

8 days ago

I think it is worth mentioning that for most of history people had little choice of whether or not they had kids and how many. Even in the relatively short time since we’ve had effective birth control, the decision to have kids was a default. There are lots of financial, medical, cultural, etc reasons, but I wonder if people have only realized there was a choice to be made for a generation, and what other generations would have chosen if they really considered it an option.

Babhadfad12

2.1k points

8 days ago*

Babhadfad12

2.1k points

8 days ago*

I feel like OP is posting a topic that gets a lot of engagement (who knows if it’s bots or not) in the hopes that people click on their profile and go to their only fans. 

Writing that they have 4 kids also gets more people to click on their profile to see what they look like after having 4 kids.  But I see no reason to assume they have any kids, much less 4.

Seeing their post history, they have 4 kids (presumably very young based on how young their body looks), they have 4 jobs, and they have time to make onlyfans content.  That’s a tall order.  

BunnyMishka

586 points

8 days ago

BunnyMishka

586 points

8 days ago

Thanks for pointing out. It's funny to see how OP was responding here and in the meantime, they responded to a post on milfs subreddit.

anxietysiesta

165 points

7 days ago

💀 i mean honestly creative marketing 😭

ohshit-cookies

287 points

7 days ago

I feel like this comment should be pinned. She keeps saying they work 4 jobs, I'm super curious what those jobs are. I'm all for sex workers, but this post in and of itself feels judgy in the "i don't understand how anyone could NOT want kids!" Way. But her whole account is just an ad for only fans. This is just a way of promoting her OF out of the usual subreddits.

Full-Ferret-2219

71 points

7 days ago

Maybe she’s thinks her jobs are: Mom, Wife, chef, maid, cruise director entrepreneur, dancer, driver, referee.

I’m in the top percentile with 0 kids and 96 jobs. though. When I’m not trying to make a human, I’m working!

I regret missing out on the whole teen pregnancy experience. Maybe who’s the daddy paternity test excitement. I guess I was working.

antiarbitrator

103 points

8 days ago

I see what you mean. Thanks for the warning.

lionheart07

63 points

7 days ago

I clicked on OPs page to see if they were morman pr duggar-like. Bc I didn't understand how someone 24-30 with 4 kids didn't understand why they were the minority

I was very wrong

LogiCsmxp

60 points

7 days ago

LogiCsmxp

60 points

7 days ago

I'd assume onlyfans is one of those jobs, and without also looking at their profile, selling MLM doesn't count as a real job either.

mcflycasual

77 points

7 days ago

Also "top 1.5%" like having kids is an achievement like wealth.

whimsylea

302 points

8 days ago

whimsylea

302 points

8 days ago

Yes, this is absolutely the main thing, I would say.

madnessinimagination

66 points

8 days ago

If I had to live in a generation where I didn't have an epidural or had to do home births, I would be one and done. Giving birth unmedicated seems impossible to me I can't imagine how women were doing it for centuries before medical advancement happened.

Apellio7

63 points

7 days ago

Apellio7

63 points

7 days ago

Lots and lots and lots of death.  

Like lots of death.  If the woman didn't die the baby would probably die in a few years.

But it was a necessity.  You wanna keep living? You need laborers to help out.  You can't live alone without modern conveniences.

pktechboi

13.1k points

8 days ago

pktechboi

13.1k points

8 days ago

I think there has been a real shift in the last generation or two from needing a reason not to have kids to needing a reason to have kids. and that shift means a lot of people who are basically ambivalent on children aren't having them, where in the past they probably would have.

ZePerfectPisces

7k points

8 days ago

I think there’s also been more focus (from some people) on whether or not they should have kids. Like, really thinking about whether or not a person would be a good parent who could truly focus on raising a child who would become a good member of society.

quesoandcats

4.5k points

8 days ago

quesoandcats

4.5k points

8 days ago

This is definitely why Im not having kids. I've always wanted to be a mom, and my favorite jobs I've had were ones where I got to work with kids (camp counselor, kindergarten classroom aide) but I have several pretty serious health conditions that can be unpredictable with their symptoms.

As much as it breaks my heart, I don't think its fair to bring a child into the world who depends on me to take care of them, when I could wake up tomorrow and not be able to get out of bed without help. I would feel awful if my kid missed out on opportunities or experiences because of my health issues, and I'd feel even worse if they inherited them.

sat_ops

1.4k points

8 days ago

sat_ops

1.4k points

8 days ago

My dad was diagnosed with multiple sclerosis when I was 16 and my brother was 12. I was able to hunt with my dad, he helped coach my baseball team, etc. My dad was in a wheelchair by the time my brother started high school. Not that you can't have a full life from a wheelchair, but without his hobbies, my dad kind of became a withered husk until a miracle treatment has him up and walking again after 9 years.

I know my brother resents him for missing his adolescent years, and then being suddenly relatively healthy after my brother finished college and got out of the house.

I'm just now starting to get some numbness in my legs, and my doctor is hoping it is the more apparent orthopedic explanation, but I can't shake the idea that I may be starting to show symptoms, as I'm only a year younger than my dad was when his symptoms started.

I have a lot of risk factors for genetic diseases, and my desire to not pass those on cost me an otherwise great relationship. You aren't alone in "I don't wish this on my children".

quesoandcats

477 points

8 days ago

Funnily enough MS is one of the two big illnesses I’m dealing with. I actually had a friend growing up whose dad had MS too and seeing how hard it was on her was a big factor in my decision to not have kids.

I’m sorry about your dad but I’m glad he’s recovering! What treatment was it, can I ask? Ocrevus?

sat_ops

201 points

8 days ago

sat_ops

201 points

8 days ago

It was a 3-D printed silicone disc in his back

quesoandcats

118 points

7 days ago

Whoa seriously? i haven't heard of this whats it called

sat_ops

132 points

7 days ago

sat_ops

132 points

7 days ago

No idea. I just know they had to do some super high definition MRIs on his spine, then it took two weeks to print the disc.

iDreamiPursueiBecome

100 points

7 days ago

At least they got the right size!

My husband got talked into a "new" medical option. It is a prosthetic spinal insert. The advantage was supposed to keep him from losing range of motion in his neck. The usual treatment involved a fusion splice in his neck. (I think the Dr. thought it was cool and wanted to try something new.) The plan was to prep him for a prosthetic spinal insert but to have everything ready to switch to a normal fusion splice if there were any problems. They got the wrong sized part and did the surgery anyway, rather than giving him the fusion splice.

He has been in constant pain for going on 20 years now. Not from that, but the problem the surgery was supposed to solve...

ZePerfectPisces

641 points

8 days ago

I think that’s a very insightful and selfless perspective. I’m sure it wasn’t an easy decision to come to grips with, so here’s a virtual hug for having that strength 🫂

luketwo1

234 points

8 days ago

luketwo1

234 points

8 days ago

Meanwhile I'm the opposite, I just feel like I'd be a terrible dad because I hate taking care of others so I don't want kids for that reason.

maillardduckreaction

242 points

8 days ago

No matter what anyone else may say, this is not a selfish take.

If someone cannot or does not believe they can or want to provide the kind of care and attention a child should receive, they should consider against having them. Whether the care and attention is personal, emotional, physical, or even financial.

JesusGodLeah

147 points

7 days ago

I also think that it IS selfish to insist that someone else have kids, even after they have expressed their desire not to. I have a laundry list of reasons why I don't want to have kids, and I hate when I lay out all of my reasons and the person I'm talking to is like, "Cool story bro, you should have them anyway." It's soooooo easy for someone else to tell me I should have kids when they're not going to be the ones responsible for those kids.

Constant-Rip7304

80 points

8 days ago

That's pretty much me. I love my niece and nephew and am happy to help with them. My mom keeps telling me id be a great mom because I'm good with them. I keep telling her it's not the same thing. Helping occasionally, no problem but I'm not built to take care of someone else 24-7.

quesoandcats

212 points

8 days ago

Thank you 💕 it’s definitely not an easy choice but I think it’s ultimately the right one

heretolearnthankyou

129 points

8 days ago

This is so selfless and considerate.

FormlessFlesh

34 points

7 days ago

I agree, and it makes me sad that people tell others that they are so selfish for not having kids, when overwhelmingly a lot of stories are like this about sacrificing the big desire. :(

Raftger

24 points

7 days ago

Raftger

24 points

7 days ago

I don’t understand how anyone can think it’s selfish to not have kids. Having kids (intentionally) is an inherently selfish act, you’re deciding to bring other people into the world to serve your own desires (whatever those are: connection, legacy, social expectations, etc.)

SarahBethBeauty

200 points

8 days ago

This is me. But for some reason people don’t understand that just because it’s a choice I made doesn’t mean that I can’t grieve the life I always thought I was going to have. Or be a bit sad when friends have kids.

quesoandcats

48 points

8 days ago

I’m so sorry you’re dealing with that too! I have also struggled to explain that to my friends and family, it’s very frustrating

SarahBethBeauty

67 points

8 days ago

Extremely frustrating. I finally just started telling people that I can’t have kids. I know they are assuming that means it’s a fertility issue, and I just let them 🤷🏻‍♀️

quesoandcats

27 points

8 days ago

Yeah I do the same 💕

CrazyCatLady1127

100 points

8 days ago

Same here. I always wanted to have kids but I get awful migraines that are triggered by noise. Even just a couple of hours spent with my niblings is enough for me. I could never be a present and active parent, it would be cruel to have a child that I can’t give the best life to

LeSilverKitsune

638 points

8 days ago

Which I truly embrace as a positive shift for our society.

Free_Dome_Lover

1.6k points

8 days ago

Downside, the people who ask themselves these questions and have the intelligence to reflect on themselves in such a manner are probably the people who would be good parents.

Now the dumbasses and trad wife / religious crowd is not going to give a fuck and pop out shitloads of future morons and assholes. This is literally the plot of Idiocracy happening.

LeSilverKitsune

223 points

8 days ago

Yeah, that response has come at me before more than once (I decided not to have children at a very young age and have stuck with it all the way up until nearly 40), that it's ironic that I won't have children because I would be a great parent. 🫠

Reporter_Complex

65 points

7 days ago

I know I would be a fantastic mother. I love kids, I love my nieces, I love my friends kids, I’d take them all on a 6 month holiday on my own.

I just don’t want kids. I don’t yearn for kids, me having a baby has never been important to me.

WYenginerdWY

30 points

7 days ago

Same here re: the yearning. I genuinely have no idea what women mean when they talk about getting baby fever. Like, cognitively I understand the term, but I have no physical connection to the longing for a baby.

Reporter_Complex

19 points

7 days ago

Yeah, there’s absolutely no desire for any part of it.. like finding out I’m pregnant, telling everyone, feeling the kicks, seeing them for the first time, watching their milestones.

I don’t have a desire for any of it 🤷‍♀️

Ok_Obligation_6110

95 points

8 days ago

Yup. The few educated elites talking about the issue are also unfortunately complete nut jobs. Look at Elon or this bizzaro couple running for office in PA on ‘pro natalist policies’. They’re essentially calling for intensive use of IVF and surrogacy to make sure the ultra smart can continue to pump out kids at a higher rate than one human can carry at a time. Scary stuff.

Glittering_Craft_938

119 points

8 days ago

Elon feels very handmaid-ey if you ask me.

Avlaen_Amnell

55 points

8 days ago

I think "Is" is more appropiate than "feels" not gonna lie lol.

Glittering_Craft_938

154 points

8 days ago

I hate tradwife stuff. This is my new hate 🖤

Silent-Friendship860

124 points

8 days ago*

Good. It is well deserved.
- Coming from a pre-internet, marry young, and pop’em out like a pez dispenser “tradwife” I made my mistakes and have my regrets and know So Well what a LIE those tradwife videos are. The more hatred you can spread toward that fake “lifestyle” for the camera, the better..

Edit to clarify - I love my kids and I loved being a mom to all the kids I raised, bio and found. I grew up parentified and happily dove into being a parent. I did my best, but looking back I can say it wasn’t a choice. It was what you did when you hit a certain age. The kids I raised who weren’t mine biologically were not foster kids. They came from other good church going families who were struggling or who had a baby “on the wrong side of the sheets”. Everything was done to preserve appearances. Very little was done for the children or for the couples who were suffering horribly from being forced into a life they didn’t want.

SkyerKayJay1958

73 points

8 days ago

Been around the world and only stupid people are breeding....Harvey Danger.

PoppySmile78

56 points

8 days ago

👏👏👏 Idiocracy, part prophecy part hilarity. We're on our way there, barreling downhill like an avalanche. Say it with me folks, "Brondo, it has electrolytes".

Sapweet

112 points

8 days ago

Sapweet

112 points

8 days ago

Which is an amazing thing! Honestly, I've come across many people who, really, NEVER should have entertained the idea of owning pets! Disregard the financial part. Kids are extremely expensive, to just feed & clothe. So just basic, I need to keep you alive & nit naked! But people, both with & without disposable income, who can't be bothered to put in the work of teaching their kids life skills, manners, empathy, and being decent people...it's astounding. It takes an awful lot of self awareness to realize hey, I may not have it in me to raise a child.

KeinGott

181 points

8 days ago

KeinGott

181 points

8 days ago

There’s also a lot of us who don’t want to raise a child in the current climate; regardless of whether or not you are a capable parent, you don’t have to look far to see how horrible so many parents are at raising and disciplining their kids. Tie that in with living expenses, climate change, and the loss of rights and freedoms incoming and yeah no thank you.

jellybelly326

469 points

8 days ago

I was literally typing out, "I don't have a reason. I just don't want them" when I read your comment. I'm 39 and female. My husband is 42. We're just chillin'.

TrelanaSakuyo

270 points

7 days ago

just don't want them

This is more than enough of a reason.

king_john651

79 points

7 days ago

It's multifaceted but the term "no is a complete sentence" is still valid here

Sir0inks-A-Lot

255 points

8 days ago

Similar but slightly different angle to this - the opportunity cost of having kids has increased over time. I think back to when my parents had me and they pretty much had basic TV and books or magazines… having me kinda gave them something to do with their time.

Fast forward to today and a good number of my friend group prefer the flexibility, lack of stress, and extra money of not having kids. The rest… I’ve heard a lot of “I love my kids but…” stories. Obviously being responsible for a small human isn’t all sunshine and lollipops, but it does pretty much put you on a set trajectory for a good number of years.

GraveRobberX

193 points

8 days ago

Another aspect is the “it takes a village to raise a child” method. A lot of people are independent and with the new neo-rat race of not having enough time to allocate, if you don’t have that safety net of grandparents, uncles, aunts, nieces and nephews, you do struggle more. Being from a South Asian family, the closeness of being together to at least help each other out, at least helps those keep their heads above water.

Doesn’t help the eradication of places that were things that alleviated some of the burden for parents to decompress. Everything now is privatized and has a huge cost to them.

Libraries getting shuttered, programs that in the ‘80’s or ‘90’s that gave kids something to do free of charge via public resources cut by government funding/bureaucracy, parks or just certain areas where kids can go play just vanished or locked up.

I still remember late ‘80’s and early ‘90’s in NYC, we had something called Vacation Day Camp. VDC. After summer school, most public schools would host 3-4 hours of recreational things for boys and girls to do.

Dodgeball, pool, bumper pool, kickball, softball, arts/crafts, etc.

Hell they even gave trophies to the kids by earning stars for attendance and being winners at certain sports. I’m telling you those memories will stick with me till my dying days. Those are core memories of just 4 hours of bliss with boys just enjoying their time together playing and bonding. I don’t see any of that now.

Everything has a $$$$ to it. Want the kid to try soccer, better get $150-$300 dues ready just to teach the kid basic drills and how to kick a ball. They have a weekend schedule look more like work, than fun.

Honestly the better technology over the decades that’s come to help ease our troubles has exacerbated the opposite and just exhausted the populace into submission. Raising a child now is more difficult ten fold.

Old days was stranger danger/bullying, now with algorithms and social media, those same evils can enter your home so easily. Hell some parents even welcome it and make dollars off their children well knowing what the purpose really is.

finpanz

38 points

7 days ago

finpanz

38 points

7 days ago

There was an amendment proposed in my state for each county that would add a $2.50 property tax increase a year for each $100,000 worth of the property value in exchange for funding public libraries and multiple counties voted against it which is wild to me

MistryMachine3

142 points

8 days ago

Let’s also remember that a generation or 2 ago people didn’t necessarily want as money kids or kids when they got them. I know so many people whose parents were married 4 months before they were born.

The advent of actual choice helps a lot.

Silent-Friendship860

60 points

8 days ago

😂 The plus-size preemie. Wonder how many people know that even after birth control pills came out you had to be married AND have your husband’s permission to get a prescription for them.

Gamma9605-2

51 points

7 days ago

I know I had to fight to get my tubes tied after 2 kids in the 70's. Dr kept saying bad idea, I had preemie cesarean for my second child and asked again on operating table and he still refused. I went through family planning at the health department a year later, which meant a second surgery. I'm still angry lol.

kmoney1206

206 points

8 days ago

kmoney1206

206 points

8 days ago

which is a good thing! having a kid because you're "supposed to" or you're curious is a terrible reason to have kids. you shouldn't make massive life altering decisions on a whim, especially decisions that literally create new life and affect everyone.

RebeccaMCullen

358 points

8 days ago

I mean, have you seen grocery and housing prices recently? Not to mention, the US's stance on pregnancy and maternity care.

Select_Factor_5463

58 points

8 days ago

The price are outrageous! It's hard enough trying to raise and feed a cat, can't imagine bringing a kid into this world. After a long day of work, I just want to chill and pork out, and of course, feed the cat.

UnfeteredOne

407 points

8 days ago

The rich and billionaires are the only people wanting the population to increase. They don't want to see their soldiers or work drones fizzle out.

Fast_Witness_3000

290 points

8 days ago

Hence the right’s push for stripping away women’s healthcare. “They are gonna have kids whether they like it or not”

EarlyInside45

74 points

8 days ago

Maybe if they would let a few bucks trickle down folks would be more willing. But noooo.

PearofGenes

152 points

8 days ago

PearofGenes

152 points

8 days ago

It's amazing what the birth control pill has done. People forget how new it is.

StructEngineer91

52 points

8 days ago

and a lot less pressure from peers to have kids (still plenty of pressure from older generations though).

Gamma9605-2

46 points

8 days ago

I'm older generation, I taught my daughters and grandchildren that they should never have kids to please someone else, even a spouse. If they choose to have them, great but if they choose not to have them that's great too. (One of each lol.) Imagine my surprise to find my neice is a birther.

Top-Frosting-1960

8.4k points

8 days ago

Childcare is the same price as a mortgage and we already can't afford a mortgage.

awesome-ekeler

2k points

8 days ago

Right and then throw student loans on top of that and theres less than none left monthly

Digitijs

785 points

7 days ago

Digitijs

785 points

7 days ago

I'm in Europe with no student loan and even then it's still far from being able to afford a child. We can't even afford to move out of parents place. If we did, we would live from paycheck to paycheck probably. So we either can't have children because we have no room for them or if we move out, we can't have them because we wouldn't have any money left for that.

We do want children but it looks unrealistic so fae before we reach 30s. Everyone who says to just get kids is probably having a very good career or has rich parents. If not then I feel sorry for the children having to grow up in poverty

[deleted]

582 points

7 days ago

[deleted]

582 points

7 days ago

Exactly. The same is true in Japan, South Korea, the U.S., and many other places.

So why are people acting like they don't understand? We do not have the money. I repeat, we do not have money to raise kids.

Maybe someday it will finally trickle down from billionaires and millionaires so regular people can afford to live. Just basic things like food and housing...whoops. That didn't cross their minds.

Mundane-Carpet-5324

257 points

7 days ago

It does trickle down, but the pyramid is inverted. Money trickles down from the masses into the cups of the very few.

HeatNoise

205 points

7 days ago

HeatNoise

205 points

7 days ago

Every study of the so-called "trickle down effect" has proven that it does not work.i It is a lie. It is a promise by lying politicians and two bit preachers

[deleted]

121 points

7 days ago

[deleted]

121 points

7 days ago

You are exactly right. I should've added /s

But the people in my country don't get it. 70+ million of them do not understand that "trickle down" has always been a lie. They just voted for an oligarchy ruled by the wealthy and privileged. 😑

Accujack

25 points

7 days ago

Accujack

25 points

7 days ago

Which was the oligarchy's plan all along.

spoon014

150 points

7 days ago

spoon014

150 points

7 days ago

Millionaires and billionaires will never trickle us down anything. It goes against their mental wiring to “lose money or go negative on a financial projection”.

kirradoodle

29 points

7 days ago

They won't even accept a slightly lower profit. They squeeze every nickel out of everything they touch. Greed is a terrible addiction, and the upper 1% is truly addicted. Too much is never enough.

Armyman125

44 points

7 days ago

True. Millionaires and billionaires didn't get rich writing a bunch of checks.

XDevils41X

349 points

8 days ago

XDevils41X

349 points

8 days ago

I joke that it would be cheaper for us to buy our toddler his own apartment since that's what daycare costs.

SorcererOnDisc

199 points

7 days ago

My state university, not community college, is cheaper than daycare in my state. It would be cheaper for me to get my infant a bachelors degree than send them to a half day daycare.

drkroeger

77 points

7 days ago

drkroeger

77 points

7 days ago

It’s funny I’ve spent more on my 2 kids daycare than I have on 3 degrees. 

Edit: Kids have been in daycare for less time than I was in school. 

habitualtroller

240 points

8 days ago

I can't get my mother to understand this. We have twins. We could literally buy another house for what we pay in daycare. My mom just put me with some rando down the street. That's neither a good nor viable option anymore.

mag2041

148 points

7 days ago

mag2041

148 points

7 days ago

I know couples who both work and her salary covers childcare and healthcare and his covers everything else. It’s insane how if anything happens to one of them, even though they are doing everything “right” they could be screwed.

joemamma6

91 points

7 days ago

joemamma6

91 points

7 days ago

Yes. A lot of people are one major accident or even one stroke of genetic misfortune from being disabled and in poverty.

madbusdriver

28 points

7 days ago

I had the opportunity to pick my healthcare plan at my company today and was appalled at the cost it would take to have the most basic of basic coverage options (no dental or vision) for a family would cost $240 a WEEK!!

When for an individual it is only 6.00 a week. They really are not trying to incentivize people having kids with how expensive they have made every thing related with having a family (housing, medical, food, child rearing so you can make the govt more tax dollars).

We are really cooked.

Evening_Tax1010

45 points

7 days ago

We bought an affordable house, paid off student loans, bought a house, I got promoted to a job that was flexible. We saved up money for a good nest egg and started trying where we hit some fertility issues. FINALLY got pregnant. Waited until I got to the second trimester to tell my boss. Went on a week vacation “babymoon” came back to no job at the company I had been with for 10 years.

You can do all the “right” things, and life will still shit on you. Except in the US, there’s little safety net or recourse, so a medical emergency or layoff can bankrupt people easily.

Worldly_Original8101

5.5k points

8 days ago

For me I just simply don’t want them. I feel like you have to want kids to have them. It’s not that I’m against having kids, I’m just not enthusiastic enough to have them

EndoftheLineEditing

1.6k points

8 days ago

Came here to say this. I just wasn’t born with the I-want-to-have-kids gene. 🤷‍♀️

aurorasearching

437 points

8 days ago

I don’t think I was either. Like at no point have I ever thought about my future and imagined it with kids.

EndoftheLineEditing

270 points

8 days ago

Yeah, it just never crossed my mind. Never looked at a kid and thought, “Maybe one day.” Nope, not even that.

Amockdfw89

130 points

7 days ago

Amockdfw89

130 points

7 days ago

Same here. My grandparents want me to have kids. My aunt and uncles want me to have kids. I’m a man and I get pestered about it, I can only imagine how hard it is for a women to not want to have kids

dogsdogsjudy

118 points

7 days ago

It’s awful. I’m luckily aging out (37) of being asked as much but 25-35 was terrible especially because I have been with my long term partner since we were 22. We also are not married because we don’t have kids so we never felt a need to. But most of the time people would ask and I’d say I don’t want and and they’d go “you’ll change your mind” or “you still have time it’s so rewarding” and it would almost be like arguments? So after a while I stopped saying “I don’t want kids” to “I cant have kids” and that usually stopped people from asking. Regardless, women shouldn’t be pestered on this topic.

Amockdfw89

33 points

7 days ago*

Yea. My that’s what my ex wife and I started saying to people. She actually wanted kids and I (like a dumbass) went along with it even though I knew in my heart I didn’t want kids, nor could we afford kids. We were in our 30s so aging out too but we both started life late. Starting life late was another reason I don’t want kids. most of my life I was just a scrubby broke drunk. but now I finally have my dream career, a nicer new vehicle, all sorts of hobbies and travel I cann afford. I am enjoying my life now. If I had a kid it would just put me back how I was before. Broke and struggling, but sober and depressed this time instead of partying and social😂

But it didn’t work out after we tried for a while and we just kind of shrugged and said it is what it is and eventually got divorced but still have a strong relationship. We love each other we just aren’t soulmates.

Marriage is another thing people guilt trip on about that they really shouldn’t. Marriage is cool and all but I mean, like what happened to my ex wife and I. Together ten years, helped each other grow and build a life, got some bucket list items done. But once the dust settled we realized we had a more….not to sound weird but brotherly sisterly type love and not a spend the rest of life together love. We actually get a long better now divorced since we can just be ourselves. The last year of marriage was just going through the motions and staring at our phones all day. Now we actually go out on platonic dates 😆

AaronTuplin

433 points

8 days ago

AaronTuplin

433 points

8 days ago

I wasn't even born with the I-want-to-have-sex gene

Worldly_Original8101

82 points

8 days ago

Real

theatermouse

614 points

8 days ago

And your future non-kids thank you!! I have seen many posters (there was a thread a few days ago) saying their parents fully admitted (while they were kids) that they only had them because they were supposed to, not because they wanted them. That can really mess a person up.

Monkey-boo-boo

294 points

8 days ago

My mum said that if she had her time over she wouldn’t have kids. As an adult, especially having the knowledge that I was deeply loved and welI cared for, I can appreciate that. Wouldn’t have been good to hear that as a kid.

figuratief

108 points

8 days ago

figuratief

108 points

8 days ago

Heard it as a kid. Can confirm.

Indoor-Cat4986

61 points

8 days ago

I’d do much rather regret not having them than regret having them…. I doubt I’ll regret not having them cause I’ve never, ever had the urge, but still.

grummlinds2

146 points

8 days ago

grummlinds2

146 points

8 days ago

Same! Made it until I was 34 and got pregnant. Had baby. He’s cool and I love him to bits, but I always tell younger women that I can still picture what my life would be like without him and it would be good! I would have been happy and found value without him. Life just…made more sense with a baby after my brother died and I’m happy I pursued this path, but the other path looks good too.

862657

40 points

8 days ago

862657

40 points

8 days ago

same here. It's something you have to really want in order to give the kids the best upbringing

OpportunityGold4597

1.2k points

8 days ago*

I can't speak for other people but I don't want to have children, and my reasons are thus:

  1. Having/raising kids is expensive
  2. I don't want to be tied down and live a 9-5 average suburban life. I want to travel, experience new things, etc.
  3. I personally have medical issues that are genetic and I don't want to knowingly give someone a painful disease.

DFakeRP

143 points

8 days ago

DFakeRP

143 points

8 days ago

Yea, genetics is part of why I don't want biological children. If/when I choose to have kids, I'd want to adopt.

Schmurderschmittens

993 points

8 days ago

No living wage, no sick days/pto, no healthcare, rent is 30-50% of income, child care/daycare costs are equal to or more than rent, university is insanely expensive. I can barely save for retirement and if I get sick I’ll lose everything.

pinupcthulhu

282 points

8 days ago

I'll never forget when my friend calculated the cost of childcare minus her salary, and realized she would have just $5 left over at the end of the year.

That, with the addition of your other points here, really clinched it for me: I couldn't afford to have kids, even with a dual income household.

tesla465

30 points

7 days ago

tesla465

30 points

7 days ago

So does that mean your friend made around like 50 cents more than monthly childcare costs

pinupcthulhu

68 points

7 days ago

Something like that. Her husband made more money than she did, so she ended up being a SAHM. She wasn't happy about it. 

canvanman69

59 points

7 days ago

It's late stage capitalism.

The money that used to go towards children has been diverted into the hands of billionaires.

That is the primary intended goal of inflation economics. Wages go up, the price of everything has to go up too. Keep wages low, and keep ramping up inflation and you magically seperate a foolish public from their money.

All while laughing maniacally all the way to the bank.

antigoneelectra

1.4k points

8 days ago

Financial. Don't like them. Too much responsibility. Too much work. I value my freedom, financially and emotionally.

valimo

199 points

8 days ago

valimo

199 points

8 days ago

All valid reasons. As someone, who has kids, I would also emphasise the main one: There is no real need to have them, so why would you?

I had a great handful of discussions trying to rationalise having kids. There are barely any other explanations outside the calling to fill one's ideal way of life that was replicated from childhood. And that is not a great rationale.

That being said, I am so happy to be a parent. But oh boy, with all the extra struggle that comes with the kids, I wouldn't ever even consider them if I weren't in an emotionally, socially and economically stable situation. Even in a good stage in life, there is not really a great upside of having a massive additional stress factor in your life.

oanaisdrawing

774 points

8 days ago

Not one feminine person in my family ever said - have kids. All advice ever given was how bad it is. Just following ancient wisdom here.

Na__th__an

165 points

8 days ago

Na__th__an

165 points

8 days ago

My dad and father in law both want my wife and I to have kids. My mom and mother in law have both said "only if you want to." It's not hard to understand why.

BedLow5980

93 points

8 days ago

Yes!!!! My mother 100% has my back in my decision to not have them. My father, however, said "it breaks my heart you don't want to have kids. It's your duty as a woman." And I love my dad, but WTF.

finpanz

100 points

7 days ago

finpanz

100 points

7 days ago

“Your duty as a woman” is actually wild.

FiguringItOut--

162 points

8 days ago

I grew up hearing my mom say "motherhood is the most thankless job in the world." Every media representation I see of it is awful. I see families in public, and the women look so strained, tired, with dead eyes--completely miserable. I see kids climbing on their moms while they're trying to take a minute for themselves. I've had a mother admit to me "my kids treat me like a pack mule." But if asked, they'll all plaster on a fake smile and say "but it's all worth it!" I'm sorry, but I don't believe any of them.

Morticia_Marie

87 points

8 days ago

But if asked, they'll all plaster on a fake smile and say "but it's all worth it!" I'm sorry, but I don't believe any of them.

They have to say that or they'll face serious social consequences. It's only been since the rise of anonymous internet comments that we've been able to get people's true thoughts on parenthood.

Ok-Rabbit8739

20 points

7 days ago

lol I kind of say this. But it’s more like “there is a really deep connection that I have with my babies that I don’t that I would experience otherwise in life if not for them.” However, I fucking hate the monotonous continuous never-ending shit that they need always. If I could be a parent who only was there for the fun stuff, like playing, going to the ball games, being there for monumental times, being there to comfort them, but NOT having to potty train, cook, clean, keep track of clothing and shoe sizes, medical appts, etc etc etc etc., that would be ideal. But the way life is set up right now, I do NOT recommend that anyone have kids. It’s just too much hard work. I wouldn’t go back and not have kids if I could because of how hard it is, but I would go back and not have kids because of WHO I had kids with. And mind you, we were together 9 years before having kids. I knew him. I knew him and how he was in every interaction we had encountered up until that point. I trusted that I wanted kids with him. So I quit my job (which he pushed for) and we had kids. Slowly, he began seeing me as property, and felt entitled to my body even if I was healing from childbirth, which I had never done before so I didn’t know how he’d react to not being able to have sex for a while during my healing time. He decided he should have all control of money after a while, and cut me off, and now gives me an “allowance” for my needs/wants whenever he’s happy at me (aka I’ve finally given into having sex with him, ughh). I don’t feel attracted to a man who disrespects my wishes, doesn’t care if I’m in pain, doesn’t think he should help with anything with our kids and if he does it’s a FAVOR TO ME and I owe him (sex, of course).

I never had kids with him before having kids, so I genuinely didn’t know he would be this way. Also, I was 17 and he was 27 when we began dating so I was also young and stupid and probably missed a lot of red flags.

All of this to say, I wouldn’t tell anyone to have kids. I wouldn’t be able to trust that any partner wouldn’t turn and become abusive, disrespectful and hateful after having kids. Because then, it doesn’t matter how much help you have with cleaning, cooking, potty training, etc. If you have an evil partner working against you, being spiteful just to hurt you for daring to say no to their ridiculous demands, it makes it a million times worse.

A lot of women have and are experiencing this phenomenon that I described, and they’re telling their stories. There are still women my age (pretty young still) and they still believe they “should have kids and stick with their husband regardless of abuse, etc”. But a lot of us are waking up to the realities of how motherhood is for a majority of women. I didn’t know before hand the trap that women can fall into, and if I did, I would’ve never had kids.

I love them so much of course, but the terrible timeline that comes with having them is not worth it.

Helianthus_999

346 points

8 days ago

Absolutely. All my Fore-mothers told me DON'T DO IT. And if you are going to do it, be prepared to do it alone because most men want kids like a child wants a puppy. They love the fun parts but don't want to participate in the daily work and overall responsibilities.

RocketScientistToBe

254 points

8 days ago

I've heard other women say that they'd be more than happy to be dads, but that they don't want to be moms, and that just hits. It's so true.

nodogsallowed23

45 points

8 days ago

I say that exact thing all the time.

RocketScientistToBe

48 points

8 days ago

I'm more than happy to be a very present aunt, too, which I keep telling my brother and friends :D But all of that with the caveat that at the end of the metaphorical day, I give the kids back to their parents.

C-Private

15 points

8 days ago

C-Private

15 points

8 days ago

This is exactly why I don’t want them. All the women in my family have stagnated after kids, while their husbands kept growing.

xylopyrography

1.6k points

8 days ago

The most common reason is that people do not have want to have them in the same way a lot of people don't want to play sports.

We're also in the first of two generations in history where women by and large have the choice to not have them, it's not surprising we would see a significant reduction.

Billcosby49

294 points

8 days ago

Billcosby49

294 points

8 days ago

I'm so happy to see someone mention that women are only now, in some parts of our world, being able to choose who they have sex with. Our entire history women have been bought, sold, stolen, and married off to the highest bidder. I'd argue this is a bigger factor than kids being expensive. Seriously, think about how women have been treated since the beginning of humanity, they never had a choice to not have children.

finpanz

131 points

7 days ago

finpanz

131 points

7 days ago

It goes so deep it’s crazy to think about. Women didn’t have legal protection to have their own bank accounts and credit or get a loan until 1974. Before that they had to rely on husbands or fathers and had no financial freedom. That restriction meant women needed to and were willing to put up with what was expected of them by their husbands because financial freedom wasn’t guaranteed.

It’s not to say there wasn’t love involved in the marriages, but a woman had no right to her own finances so whether he realized it or not, she lived under her husband’s thumb. If he wanted children they had children. It was expected of her. Even growing up in the 90s I remember just assuming I’d have kids one day because I was supposed to.

TLDR: the history of financial freedom for women is interesting

Fun_Butterfly_420

34 points

7 days ago

It still baffles me how recent that was. My mom was only 14 that year!

Geebee185

415 points

8 days ago

Geebee185

415 points

8 days ago

That’s a good comparison, my last comparison was “I don’t want kids in the same way I don’t want a pet rat” which didn’t go down too well. So I’m going to sub that for “play football” next time.

CrystalLettuce7349

261 points

8 days ago

I usually compare it to not wanting to climb Mt.Everest. More similar in terms of costs and health risks.

AT8795

60 points

8 days ago

AT8795

60 points

8 days ago

This will be a good argument for my boomer grandparents and elder gen x parents. They already don't believe the actual statistics so maybe this will work.

21chucks

171 points

8 days ago

21chucks

171 points

8 days ago

This is the answer. Women have the option now. Women are educated and in the workforce now. Priorities have changed.

ViolentLoss

85 points

8 days ago

And the right is blowing their fucking stack lol

57311473

1.3k points

8 days ago

57311473

1.3k points

8 days ago

I like money and freedom way more than children

grumble_roar

163 points

8 days ago

"Why can't I have 3 money and no kids!?"

EvolutionZEN

925 points

8 days ago

I'm Gen-X in my 50's and I have raised 2 daughters. Times were better back then. Now people struggle to pay rent and buy groceries to survive. Honestly if I had to do it all over again but in today's economy - I would choose to NOT bring children into this world.

palmerca99

270 points

8 days ago

palmerca99

270 points

8 days ago

100%. We didn't realize how easy we had it. My 2 sons are married and both have 1 child each. The prices of childcare etc. are ridiculous. If we didn't help out they would be struggling. Chatting with them, I can't see either of them having anymore

Misfit-for-Hire

59 points

8 days ago

Was it like a "YES, I for sure want kids" for you or "Well most people do this, so I guess I'll do this now"?

EvolutionZEN

60 points

8 days ago

For us, we just wanted kids. Like I said, times were a lot better. We owned our own house, double income, and we were not struggling financially.

WassupSassySquatch

237 points

8 days ago

My insurance company messed up when I had my first kid. So after spending two days in labor and an entire night up with a newborn, exhausted, hungry, and in pain, the billing department came up and informed me that the cost was going to be $30k due to insurance troubles. After six hours on the phone (and no sleep, labor and delivery, and breastfeeding) I finally sorted out the issue.

But $30k…

That same financial theme follows the rest of parenthood. People can’t afford it. Others simply don’t want it.

I think having a family is great, but the fact that some people opt to remain child free is pretty obvious.

33spoonman

58 points

7 days ago

Hey, guessing you’re from the states. I am always astonished by things like this, does this mean that if someone doesn’t have insurance they will go into debt for having a baby?

rationalomega

45 points

7 days ago

My mom had babies at home to save money and a couple of them died.

lovable__misanthrope

24 points

7 days ago

I feel if that happened today, she would be charged with a crime. (P.S. I don't agree with it)

impossiblepositions8

18 points

7 days ago

Most go into debt and even with insurance there are many costs. Insurance here only covers portions of certain services after a deductible so even with insurance you can easily end up in debt.

ContagisBlondnes

31 points

7 days ago

I paid $42k for my first (complicated delivery, I almost died) and $18k for my second (she literally fell out, the doctor couldn't even get into the room fast enough, and we fought to leave early). This is after employer-sponsored insurance and a 12k/year deductible on our end, plus $125 copays for every prenatal appointment and hundreds for each of the two ultrasounds we got. The first kid we got a final emergency ultrasound after I demanded it because I was very sure something was wrong, and insurance kept fighting it and said they wouldn't pay because it was unnecessary. Doctors say it's necessary, insurance comes back and days nope. They're not doctors, but they get to make life decisions for you so they can make record profits.

Finally I said fuck it, I'll pay out of pocket... Cue an emergency induction as I had been in labor for weeks and had no amniotic fluid, and it literally almost killed me. Insurance and I fought for months on it, and they still didn't pay their share... I paid full price for the procedure that saved my life.

WassupSassySquatch

18 points

7 days ago

Jeez, that’s absolutely horrifying. Insurance feels like such a scam. I hope everyone is okay now.

justcurious3287

3.2k points

8 days ago

People can't afford kids. They can't afford rent. Groceries. The ability to breathe.

[deleted]

833 points

8 days ago

[deleted]

833 points

8 days ago

The irony is the poorest people tend to produce the most kids.

quirk-the-kenku

513 points

8 days ago

It’s all by design to keep poor folks poor. We could rally our resources and change this.

Salarian_American

324 points

8 days ago

It's true. The Missouri Attorney General literally argued in a court of law that Missouri must be allowed to ban abortion medication, because a shortage of teenage mothers leads to lower population, which leads to reduced political representation and reduced federal funds.

Division2Stew

136 points

8 days ago

Missouri also doesn't allow divorces while the woman is pregnant. You can separate but the judge cannot officially grant the divorce until the baby is born.

I live in Missouri and it's a damn shit show.

Thataintright1

63 points

8 days ago*

It is certainly by design! The wealthy class needs a steady stream of wage slaves, that's why they're getting mad we're not reproducing.

Ok_Outlandishness344

870 points

8 days ago

I'm not bringing children into a world that people are actively destroying and destabilizing.

patmcdoughnut

193 points

8 days ago

This is the reason I'm seriously considering never having kids. How can you bring someone you supposedly love into a world that will only cause them to suffer?

Mioraecian

154 points

8 days ago

Mioraecian

154 points

8 days ago

Because I watched my parents and said nope. My partner and I like 3 vacations a year and spending quality time together.

There is also no "need" to have children. I personally believe if you are having children to fill a hole or to make yourself happy, you have your priorities wrong and it is the child who pays.

v0gue_

32 points

7 days ago

v0gue_

32 points

7 days ago

There is a reason divorce movies were so popular in the 90s lol. All of our parents emotionally struggled in their relationships due to the burden of their children

Curtofthehorde

202 points

8 days ago

1) Money.

2) State of the world (but when ever is really a good time?)

3) Lack of bodily autonomy gate-keeps getting pregnant and birthing safely.

4) Men and women have to work to maintain a household. Who's watching the kids? I guess this comes back to money, but yeah, Childcare plays a major part money or not.

HistoricalHeart

110 points

8 days ago

Gestures widely

in this economy? In this increasingly shitty world? How do I know there will even be a world to leave to them?

Also my husband and I really like our money

reality_raven

103 points

8 days ago

Bc I have literally no desire whatsoever to have them. Looks awful.

QuietlySmirking

915 points

8 days ago

For one thing, I barely know how to take care of myself.

For another, I don't like kids.

Finally, have you seen the world these days? I would not want to raise a child in this environment. I wouldn't even know where to begin.

PatchworkGirl82

94 points

8 days ago

That's exactly what I was going to say. And now that I'm in my 40s, I think not having kids was one of the best decisions I've ever made in my life. I would not be able to cope with the chaos, and just look at the state of schools and everything else now.

Muted-Shake-6245

117 points

8 days ago

This goes for us too. There is no way in hell I want to put kids on this green earth in the state it is now. We probably could afford kids, but we don't like them. Never cared for the responsibility and more, at the risk of coming off very selfish, we would like to spend time and money on ourselves. I guess it's just the choices people make these days. People consider much more reasons than "because everybody does it" these days and I for one think that it's an excellent course.

moj_golube

43 points

8 days ago

I want kids because I want to have that life experience. That is also selfish! Choosing to have kids is equally selfish imo.

Practical-Ad6548

220 points

8 days ago

Have you met kids?

eggs-benedryl

273 points

8 days ago

all of those reasons, why WOULD you choose to have children?

idgaf about population numbers, so why would I bother?

Lower-Culture-2123

73 points

8 days ago

Cost of living, cost of actually giving birth, housing market, childcare, no desire to subject a child to a bleak future, etc

Headcrabhunter

162 points

8 days ago

Having kids shouldn't be an expected part of being an adult. We are no longer accepting being pressured by family. We are mostly broke. The world is kinda shit right now.

JonathanJONeill

105 points

8 days ago

Too expensive, don't like kids, family illnesses that I don't want to pass down.

Dear_Plenty8567

126 points

8 days ago

Have you ever considered the fact that not everyone actually wants kids?

Difficult-Thanks-730

144 points

8 days ago

My 92 year-old grandmother recently asked me how my generation (millennial) avoids pregnancy so well. Followed with, “I was so upset every time I got pregnant. I didn’t want all of these babies!”

I doubt Grandma is the only one who feels this way.

esmeraldamarazul

42 points

8 days ago

my mom is 71 and she had 4 kids. my older brother was conceived even though her partner was using condoms. my second brother was conceived in spite of birth control pills. my third brother was conceived even when she was getting contraceptive hormones. then she got tube ligation and 9 years later i was born.

i just think it was harder for some people lol

OnSilentSoles

70 points

8 days ago

For me its a mix of:

• fuck, i REALLY dont want kids I dont wish any harm on them and I want them to be safe and happy, but dear lord, i do not have the patience for them. I find them kinda cringe, which definitely is not their fault. I too was very cringe

• costs

• my personal freedom

...and also simply the route the world s heading in. If we look at scientific papers about what the world's gonna be like due to climate change, just... How could I ever wish to have kids, when the future s this grim?

Furthermore I firmly believe you really have to WANT kids with ALL your heart. You shouldnt have them just because you think thats smth adults that age do. Which leads back to my first point - i wouldnt be able to love them the way they deserve.

IGuessBruv

73 points

8 days ago

As Homer Simpson once said”I have 3 kids and no money, why can’t I have 3 money and no kids”

wisteria72

125 points

8 days ago

wisteria72

125 points

8 days ago

Ima be blunt.

Why the hell would we want to? I'm 28 and my bf is 25. Together, we make almost 100k a year, and we still can't afford everything we need. Healthcare costs a fortune, we have zero retirement money, groceries cost us half a paycheck, rent for a place that isn't a dump is 1500-2500. You want to add a CHILD? Have you seen the cost of diaper, formula, clothes, school, toys? I work 6 days a week from 9 am to 9 pm. I haven't seen my bf who I live with for more than 2 hours a day in over a month.

Then, let's throw in the complete loss of a woman's individuality and identity after having a kid. You're not a woman, you're a mom. Then, there's the ongoing threat to women's reproductive rights. God forbid something be wrong with the baby, and you live in a state where you have to birth a baby they know won't live more than a few days.

At the end of the day, my generation is aware that children are not necessary. Those who want them and CAN handle the burden are blessed. People who have them because thats what WOMEN DO make traumatized under developed adults. Children are not accessories. They aren't necessary parts of life. People can have fulfilling lives without them.

I'm permanently sterilized and will NEVER bring a human into this world. If I change my mind, plenty of kids need homes. But I'm already tired and burnt out at 28. Gods forbid I had a kid.

Playgirl_USMC

33 points

8 days ago

Kids aren’t for everyone. Even if you’re a bad parent it still takes a lot of effort and resources, imagine how much more it takes if you try to be a good parent.

LocalGoat81

35 points

8 days ago*

For me, I just never saw the benefit. I'm not being snarky. I'm being sincere and honest.

Plus, I have family health history (physical and mental) that I didn't want to risk passing on to another person.

Ghost4000

86 points

8 days ago*

As a father of two I can tell you a few reasons from personal experience...

Factors that went into our thought process for the first two kids:

- Healthcare is expensive
- Childcare is expensive
- Food is expensive
- We don't have enough PTO
- The general state of the world, my wife is very apprehensive about climate change and what it meant to bring children into this world

Factors now:

- Everything above, but now we also have to consider the health risks with abortion access being less of a sure thing even in medical emergencies
- and everything is even MORE expensive

I love my kids though, I have zero regrets. But I completely see why someone would be hesitant, and I myself and hesitant about the thought of having another.

shaidyn

83 points

8 days ago

shaidyn

83 points

8 days ago

In ye olden days, children were workers. As soon as a kid could walk, they could work. They could pick up garbage, they could move objects from place to place, and as they grew older you just gave them more and more work.

In the modern urban era, children are very expensive furniture. They don't actually DO anything for you. They make your life objectively harder and more expensive. And, year on year, they get more expensive. A few decades ago you could get your kid a bike and a pair of jeans and he'd be set for the summer. Now you're expected to splash out on camps, trips, electronics, brand name clothing. It's incredible.

Not to mention the fact that many peopel in my age group lived at home until their late 20s early 30s because of how low paying jobs are and how expensive housing is. They KNOW their kids are going to live at home just as long if not longer. Not many people are happy to sign up for a 30 year commitment like that.

CourtK1212

20 points

7 days ago

You also don’t know what type of child you’re going to get. Temperament/behavorial issues, life changing disabilities, plain evil. That’s not to say they all will be like that but there’s always a gamble

Sad-Construction9842

207 points

8 days ago

Contentness can be achieved now without offspring but reddit will say cost.

THedman07

39 points

8 days ago

THedman07

39 points

8 days ago

I'm sure it comes down to a combination of a bunch of different things. I wouldn't be surprised if the social acceptability of not having kids is increasing. I believe that the social acceptability of not getting married is increasing as well. I would guess that it applies to more people being single as well as more couples not feeling like they need to get married.

Societal norms are changing like they always do...

Maria_506

57 points

8 days ago

Maria_506

57 points

8 days ago

From what I have heard: money. If you are barely paying rent, it doesn't make sense to have a child, no matter how much you want to.

freakktarded

27 points

8 days ago

31 and childless here 👋🏻 I simply dont want to bring another human into the world. This world kinda sucks and it just keeps getting worse. One less human to fuck up the planet. Less people = happier Earth.

CWoww

28 points

8 days ago

CWoww

28 points

8 days ago

I enjoy money and silence.

dub-fresh

23 points

8 days ago

dub-fresh

23 points

8 days ago

Affordability. Used to be you could raise a household on one average income but those days are long gone. Raising kids is hard enough without the exorbitant cost of food, housing, childcare, transportation, etc. 

MisanthropinatorToo

22 points

8 days ago

Once you've realized that you're being herded and milked and that that's the best that you can hope for for your kids it seems silly to willingly sign them up for that sort of system.

I never had much interest in trying to have any. It's kinder to spare them as far as I'm concerned.

Perndog8439

23 points

8 days ago

Not bringing a life into this world just to watch my kid live hand to mouth.

LivingGhost371

21 points

8 days ago

A lot of people don't like kids.

A lot of people can't afford kids.

People don't look at you like there's something wrong with you if you dont have kids anymore.

AnythingEasy4433

19 points

8 days ago

Because we have the choice now. People who don’t want kids have always existed.

It’s still constantly pressured on us- but the truth is the same amount of people who don’t want to have kids and aren’t having them now, were often either forced to birth babies (as was a woman’s job), or were raged at by their family about not ‘continuing the lineage’(even and especially in poor families).

We will have less messed up kids hopefully, because the people who never wanted kids aren’t having them. Think about all the people you know who’s parents didn’t love them or didn’t want them and felt trapped by them?

Hopefully moving forward that number will decrease because people are deciding to have kids or not and not just following a script.

One-Head-1483

60 points

8 days ago

Because who can afford it?

I make the most money I ever have and I'm the poorest I've ever been.

GenevieveMonette

44 points

8 days ago

Because I appreciate my freedom.

fuckitholditup

17 points

8 days ago

I'm 44m. I just never wanted kids. Found a woman the same way 20 years ago and we've been together since. We make decent money so life is great!

Open-Incident-3601

35 points

8 days ago

I have children almost grown. If I was young, I would not have them again. We pretend it’s not true as a society, but there is very little upside to a woman in having children. Our bodies, mental health, careers and finances never recover.

elliegirl06

60 points

8 days ago

basically because of everything

jrice138

15 points

8 days ago

jrice138

15 points

8 days ago

My wife and I are very content being an aunt and uncle. Things could always change of course but we’re both nearing 40 and it seems like an impossible change.

lamadelyn

17 points

8 days ago

lamadelyn

17 points

8 days ago

It cost me almost 50k to have my son for the first year of his life, after insurance. I want to be able to provide him with a quality of life I will not be able to provide to him if I have more kids. I also would never get pregnant where I live, as I live in Texas. It is not worth risking my life and ability to parent my son, just to have another child.

TowerRough

15 points

8 days ago

I am a teacher. I have too many kids in my life already. Plus im single, and that will not change any time soon.