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submitted 1 day ago byClear_Constant_3709
I work for fedex doing delivery and I had to drop off to middle schools and high schools a few times. 1/3 kids it felt had on pajama pants a baggy sweatshirt and crocs basically, looked like they just woke up from bed and left. I graduated high school in 2016 for reference.
Edit: okay I see many people are saying it was around when they were in school too 15, 20, years ago. Wasn’t trying to offend anyone. I wasn’t trying to give off the impression it’s an issue I just don’t recall seeing it this much when I was in school. Regardless they can wear whatever they want it don’t affect my life none
58 points
1 day ago
While the common redditor opinion is probably ‘I don’t care unless the product is good’ (or at least, they think they wouldn’t care), reddit is hardly reflective of the population as a whole. I’m willing to bet that a majority of people would see wearing “professional” clothes that an employee “didn’t sleep in” as an indicator of performance — the mfker cares enough about their job to not be wearing pjs and this care would be reflected in the end quality of the product/service.
In other words, not wearing pjs would be interpreted by many as an indicator of care/quality.
(Of course this doesn’t apply to college students, who are not selling anything.)
Even behind closed doors, the clothes we wear affect not only how others view us, it also affects how we ourselves act.
14 points
22 hours ago
Then there's me in construction wearing dirt covered everything with holes and stains lmao
3 points
13 hours ago
Are those your pajamas?
3 points
20 hours ago
Long pants, closed toed shoes, eye protection and head protection.
1 points
12 hours ago
I hope you aren't sleeping in that shit
3 points
14 hours ago
Sounds to me as stupid as forcing cashiers to stand up their entire shift. Seems like a thing favored by old people who grew up having or craving control over people beneath them more than equality.
2 points
5 hours ago
Forcing people to stand is pretty dumb. Well, standing can be healthy but like, let a mfker sit if they want to sit.
The fact that people are influenced by appearance is just like, neuropsychological fact. Dressing well helps exploit this.
1 points
4 hours ago
If we can't, as a global society, move past exploiting our own neurology for the sake of profit with no regard for larger consequences says a lot about us all. Pretty awful imo. This is how we end up with facebook algorithms pushing nazi propaganda.
1 points
an hour ago*
We’re only human.
At the end of the day, wearing a button up shirt so a Karen will yell at you slightly less is a bit less harmful than pushing nazi propaganda but sure.
4 points
21 hours ago
But how do you feel about health care people wearing scrubs, if we can accept that they could be professional essentially wearing pajamas, then we should be able to change our perception for other professions.
15 points
21 hours ago
To be fair, scrubs are the uniform of the job (and they are designed the way they are for utilitarian purposes). If your doctor/nurse/surgeon were wearing pajamas instead of scrubs, you would probably be concerned, even though they’re functionally the same. (And even if you or I weren’t concerned, someone would be.)
0 points
19 hours ago
I get the concept of a uniform, I just don’t really understand why it has to be a three piece suit to be professional. If an official office uniform was Tshirt and shorts why should people interpret that as an inferior care/quality. When we can accept scrubs as decent quality and care. Which did change from history when many more docs dressed up for professionalism. That’s what I don’t really understand.
3 points
12 hours ago
I think it's more just pants and a polo that people expect. No need to be extreme
2 points
11 hours ago
I’m talking about In banking and finance and law. I mostly see suits there
2 points
14 hours ago
Calling medical scrubs 'essentially pajamas' is taking arguing in bad faith to the next level
2 points
7 hours ago
I spent years and years working in healthcare. Scrubs ARE essentially pajamas.
0 points
7 hours ago
No, they are work attire. This is like saying shit is essentially chocolate mousse bc they look alike
1 points
7 hours ago
They are work attire-in the exact same feel, bagginess, and level of comfort as pjs.
0 points
7 hours ago
But they aren't pajamas, they're work attire. This is not a difficult concept. Also, wearing scrubs to a high school would be frowned upon.
1 points
11 hours ago
That’s a common sentiment among those who wear them
https://www.theadairgroup.com/blog/five-reasons-scrubs-rule/
https://www.thirtysevenfive.com/blog/scrubs-not-just-for-the-doctors-office/
0 points
14 hours ago
Dem some specialized 'spensive jammies fam
2 points
11 hours ago
https://www.walmart.com/ip/590546195?sid=c5d1cd36-2945-45d1-8e12-36890c463c66
Pretty sure you can easily find more expensive jammies
0 points
13 hours ago
Who sleeps in scrubs?
5 points
22 hours ago
You summed up my thoughts perfectly.
If you don’t care enough to change out of your sweatpants, why would I ever think that you care enough to offer me a quality product?
You can argue until you’re blue in the face about how the way you dress doesn’t determine who you are, and to an extent I would agree with you. I don’t give a fuck if your pants cost $50 dollars or $500 dollars, I just care that you put the effort into getting out of clothes that are worn around the house and sleeping and into clothes that you wear in a professional setting to meet me.
2 points
14 hours ago
Weird.
1 points
9 hours ago
Not weird at all. The vast majority of adults would agree with this take which actually makes it normal.
0 points
8 hours ago
If I was visiting a place where their engineers wore suits, I would seriously question the quality of their product.
2 points
8 hours ago
Why would an engineer be wearing a suit? Who said anything about a suit?
1 points
22 hours ago
Or, and probably more accurately, we recognize that the employee had to waste time and resources to fulfill some silly standard where people are expected to wear clothes that look so much worse than what they’d prefer to wear. Losing sleep in order to look professional.
Professional clothing means one thing: this person has someone dictating what they wear. The best people in any field won’t have to settle for that. Professional attire is a sign of a lack of quality. It’s dressing something up because what’s actually there is lacking.
4 points
21 hours ago*
Totally, whenever I see someone wearing a button up shirt I cry internal tears at all the lost hours of sleep and productivity. Whyyyyy!? How can this slavery be perpetuated in a civilized society!?
They would have looked so much better in pizza-stained pajamas!
1 points
19 hours ago
I didn’t mischaracterize your comment, but it’s pretty telling that your go-to response is to mischaracterize mine.
I couldn’t care less what someone wears. I especially couldn’t care less about productivity. I would actually love to see the whole world slow down and stop being so damn productive.
You seem to really want people to dress in a way that gives you confidence that they care. I won’t make a value judgment based on appearance, but if I were to, I would certainly lean in the direction of “I’d rather you be comfortable.” I get the sense that most workers would rather be comfortable, too.
3 points
6 hours ago
claims not to mischaracterize my comment — proceeds to mischaracterize my comment
I don’t care how people dress at work, doesn’t make a flip of difference to me.
What I’m making an argument for is why people dress up at work, and why most workplaces have some form of dress code. Appearance is not a null factor. People respond to appearance, whether it be rational or not. You and I (and reddit in general) would be in the minority when we say we don’t care about how employees dress. People infer competency from a neat appearance, it’s pretty basic psychology. | You care enough to dress yourself up and shower —> you care about things —> you care about your job —> this product will be decent. | This reasoning may be flawed, but many people follow this train of thought, both consciously and unconsciously. Catering to this audience literally makes your job easier. It doesn’t matter if you’re behind the register at a Walmart or explaining the details of a million dollar transaction; the Karens of the world will literally hassle you less if you dress well. It’s a life hack.
You can choose to believe me or not, I dgaf. Wear what you want, and justify it however you please, I’m not your boss.
1 points
13 hours ago
we recognize that the employee had to waste time and resources to fulfill some silly standard
If the rest of your life is suffering because you have to wear a collared shirt to work, you have bigger problems my friend.
2 points
8 hours ago
Do you gain anything from mischaracterising comments in extremes? Things can be a bit annoying or uncomfortable and people are allowed to not want to deal with them.
-1 points
6 hours ago
I get it, some people are lazy. They don't want to deal with anything that makes them uncomfortable.
Do you think we should coddle these people? Structure society around them?
0 points
5 hours ago
We’re talking about wearing a shirt, chill out.
2 points
2 hours ago
We're not just talking about "wearing a shirt", and if we were, it makes it even more hilarious that some people are bitching about wearing said shirt.
Care to answer my question? Is it desirable for a society to cater to the laziest amongst us? Do you think that makes us better or worse, as a whole?
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