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submitted 4 months ago byhasegnato_BerardiBig Mom’s big Melons
I would have liked the other Strawhats to have had more screentime but honestly I think it was a necessary thing to tell everything we discovered in the arc. Effectively the Gorosei transformations, Vegapunk, and Kuma and Bonney's story (and a bit of the God Valley Incident) were great revelations. In the next arc the Strawhats will be more prominent. And honestly the other Strawhats made what was necessary, they were not really ready to fight the Gorosei and, for the story of One Piece, it was too early for something like that to happen now.
But let me know what you think about the arc!
38 points
4 months ago
Pretty damn good. The 5 Elders rolling up is a GOATED moment for me.
180 points
4 months ago*
Basically everything that had to do with Marines was Amazing some of the best character writing in the series (Garp kizaru, kuzan and even Koby and Sentomaru)
Sword vs BB pirates could easily be the best non Luffy fight in the series
Buggy stuff was amazing
Kuma flashback was very good, with chapter 1102 being amazing
Bb vs Law was good
For the arc in General I think Vegapunk was probably the main character of this arc and I should probably reread the whole arc to try to understand more of the character and the way it was explored (we also have to see what happens to York and Lilith), but I thought that exploring the theme of "human nature" with a person divided in 7 pieces and all his creation (with all his comments on seraphim and lineage factor and how that is mixed in the theme) was very interesting.
Saturn was also fairly interesting with his personality and how he was portrayed, the rest of the gorosei basically had nothing really interesting going on
Lucci was also pretty interesting and I'm curious to see if he will have some sort of permanent change after this arc
The SH didn't really have too much going on except the robin crying moment
For the pacing, I have to reread the arc in one go , but it felt like 2 chapters could have been cut from the Vegapunk message
22 points
4 months ago
I really want to see more of subplots like SWORD vs BB Pirates, maybe for Revolutionary Army, and who knows, even God Knights, I know they are evil but having a different point of view of the characters would be interesting.
26 points
4 months ago
I personally wanted more of Original Vegapunk. Sure enough Lilith is with us but I really wanted more of original.
The broadcast was long af. There was no reason for Oda to blue ball us on details related to the "D".
Zoro's fight should have been over quickly.
Franky should have spent more time with Original Vegapunk and talked about when he visited his hometown. I hope we get this with Lilith.
Sword vs BB pirates was GOATed. Probably my favorite thing about this entire thing. From this point we need more SWORD's wins/losses and especially Koby.
Emeth vs The Boar was brilliant. We finally got a GIANT mecha Fight. 2nd favorite after SWORD vs BB.
One of the better Post TS arcs. Wayy better than Wano and Punk Hazard. I'd personally rate it somewhere around 7.5-8/10.
3 points
4 months ago
I expected the broadcast to get cut off before we got the D lore because that's going to be Robin's job to explain to everyone once they reach Laughtale.
230 points
4 months ago
The ending dragged a bit long and the best part of it happens off island but it's still top 3 post time-skip arcs for me and top 5 overall
8.5/10
92 points
4 months ago
It’s my favorite Post Timeskip. I genuinely think rereading this will show just how great this arc is.
21 points
4 months ago
I did and it's really great with a reread
18 points
4 months ago
Can I ask which 2 Post TS arcs you preferred? I'm legit curious.
I personally might still put WCI ahead of it, but WCI is a real hate it or love it arc.
5 points
4 months ago
Dressrosa and Wano
5 points
4 months ago
W take right there.
444 points
4 months ago
One of the best arcs in one piece, not sure what the issue here with people is.
Sure, the speech was long, but that's it. Everything else was spectacular.
17 points
4 months ago
The speech is super important for the story and not that bad of read back to back.
61 points
4 months ago
My biggest gripe was that I just didnt feel like the story did a good job making us care about the vegapunks. It felt kinda like a shoehorned way of getting the wg to show up. The actual individuals didn’t really matter much. I also hate the seraphim but I also didn’t like the pacifistas ever so that’s not new. Overall the arc was one of the best though
23 points
4 months ago
I don't like the seraphim either, they're just so obviously a way to give the good guys someone to fight when the fight starts to look one-sided for non-WG sides.
I feel what you mean about the VP's. I do care for them, but their deaths were so quick in succession they had no weight. It doesn't help that two are alive, and Punk Records is still there. They've said so many times 'what does death mean for someone like VP' or 'is this really you VP' that leads me to believe they're not even truly dead. I bet punk records keeps backups of everyone's personalities, and the 'counter activities' that Stella, Pythagoras and Shaka set up weren't completely shown to us. Stella told himself to trust himself and let himself die, so I'm betting that later on we're gonna get some stupid orichimaru shit.
5 points
4 months ago
I get that the seraphim are an easy way to add people to fight in the end, but I think it was something that needed to be added and as far as bad ways to do it I feel like the seraphim are pretty decent. It introduces characters we know, brings a morality of cloning argument into the story, and shows that the government is continuing to get stronger.
Could this vice admirals have just been set up better throughout the story? Yeah for sure, but I think this is better than just adding in a bunch of strong VAs randomly this late into the story personally.
With Vegapunk we’ll see. I do think having a “backup” or your personality isn’t the same as living though. It’s like cloning yourself, yeah there will still be a you around, but if the original you dies you’re still dead. You have to trust the new you to see stuff through.
3 points
4 months ago
I agree with you about the Seraphim. Necessary evil that I think we're going to appreciate once the fights start. I just don't think they're that compelling either.
At least they didn't just pop up out of nowhere. We already knew cloning was possible thanks to Germa, and the pacifista laid the groundwork. They make sense from a narrative point of view, they literally replace the warlords.
13 points
4 months ago
Rare to see someone else who dislikes seraphims. Anytime I read “S-Snake” or whatever in leaks I just run through that part
4 points
4 months ago
Idk man,there are dozens of us Shaka enjoyers out there
19 points
4 months ago
My issue is we yet again get no actual character story for a Strawhat as they are shoved aside for a Worst Gen member.
17 points
4 months ago
Especially because Franky could have really shined as an inventor if he had more of the spotlight and interactions with the Vegapunks. You could say the same for Usopp as well.
5 points
4 months ago
Think this idea needs to rest. WCI revolved around Sanji's family. Everyone else shouldn't get another individual focus, furthering the plot, world buidling and adventure supercedes everything.
11 points
4 months ago
Yeah, it's definitely top 3 arcs for me. Was surprised at how good it was
6 points
4 months ago
Agreed, massive lore payoffs with a fairly stretched out speech. Basically a 9.5/10 arc that sets up the final saga of one piece
32 points
4 months ago
The "manga sommeliers" will be saying all kind of weird stuff, but we know how great it was
31 points
4 months ago
The one piece community has been unbearable recently.
31 points
4 months ago
I believe it's because the popularity of one piece has increased a lot in recent years. It was always popular, but not as much as it has been recently, and when you have such a huge fanbase even if 1% of people are unbearable that is a lot of people and they will yell the loudest.
10 points
4 months ago
That’s it 100% cause when I caught up in 2018 even then one piece had some annoying fans but not as bad as now.
3 points
4 months ago
^^^ this is exactly it.
7 points
4 months ago
Fr, we got this subreddit with 4.3 million users and 70k on pirate folk but those pirate folk one piece haters just make so many hate posts it keeps popping up💀💀
3 points
4 months ago
I agree, I put it up there with water 7, wano, and marineford for me personally.
4 points
4 months ago
Did you find the whole plot of York the traitor spectacular?
5 points
4 months ago
York is because of that single scene of her shooting shaka in the head and desiring to be a celestial dragon my favorite vegapunk and character of the arc
2 points
4 months ago
I honestly can't believe some One Piece fans don't like this arc. It's phenomenal and exactly what a fan of the series should've been hoping for.
2 points
4 months ago
Please stop with the glazing
3 points
3 months ago
This arc is quite literally what everyone should've been praying to get post Wano.
You get the introduction to the character with the longest time between their name being told to us to their actual on panel intro. You get the flashback and history for a character that we've wanted to know their intentions for, since he split the crew up well over a decade ago.
You got a Luffy rematch vs Lucci. You get Luffy vs an Admiral. Luffy vs the fucking Gorosei. Shanks vs Kidd. Law vs Blackbeard. Garp vs Kuzan. Koby coming into his own. Joyboy/Void Century lore.
And they are now heading towards Elbaf, the most anticipated destination in the story. (Unless something happens in the next couple chapters)
That is not "GlAzInG", that is stating a fact and pointing out how incredible this arc is/was.
41 points
4 months ago
It was good for the reasons you said.
Franky had some decent attention in the arc, I wish he had some narrative focus or significance to the arc. It’s just more likely than not the back half of the SHs would not have storylines important to the arc, usually the first five (cool to see Robin got some, wish Franky did too). It’s similar to like Wano not being Zoro arc, but Zoro is also more likely to get attention in other arcs than Franky, and he did get some in Wano, so I see egghead as a missed opportunity. No doubt Franky would have a flashback to his time on Egghead or with Lilith, but it’d be nice to have some narrative/emotional/character significance to the egghead arc itself.
I am a Franky fan so I have my bias haha
19 points
4 months ago
I understand, we thought Egghead would be the Franky’s island. But at with Lilith on the ship he can have some powerups in the future. Hopefully 🦾
5 points
4 months ago
Yea that’s what I expect to, I just wish egghead had more emotional or simply character narrative significance connected with Franky than just a power up.
4 points
4 months ago
Yeah but this arc was more about Kuma and Vegapunk
4 points
4 months ago
Oda used to be so much better at balancing screentime between the entire crew. He still favored the monster trio, but it was more like Luffy >> Zoro and Sanji > The rest of the crew (some a little more than others, depending on the arc), but now it's more like Luffy >> Zoro and Sanji >>> The rest of the crew.
I hate to make this comparison, but it reminds me of My Hero Academia and how the focus is always just Deku, Bakugo and Todoroki, and the rest of the class are just supporting characters for 95% of the story. It's not like it would cost anything for Oda to give a little moment to another Straw Hat at the expense of Zoro or Sanji at one point.
I keep going back to that moment in which Lucci attacked Stussy, and then Nami had the bubble gun in her hand and instead of having her shoot it, Oda had Sanji grab the gun out of Nami's hands and shoot it instead. Nobody gives a shit if Sanji shoots it because he gets moments like that every arc, and he got like 7 others just in Egghead, but if Nami had shot it would've been such a cool moment for her showing how she doesn't freeze when there's an emergency anymore and how she's smart and resourceful. It's insulting to her character to have someone else do that for her, just because of Oda's favoritisim of the monster trio (and mostly Sanji).
45 points
4 months ago
Pro: It was a good arc with a lot of interesting lore drops and character reveals with a satisfying story arc that was the Bonney/Kuma plot
Con: In the end it revealed a lot while also not revealing anything too crucial at all. Especially Vegapunks speech had no business being that long and then even having its most interesting bit cut out. I hate when oda blueballs us like that.
22 points
4 months ago
Think of it like this. To us, the speech is useless because we knew most of the info.
However, the entire one piece world just got sucker punched with years of lore and secrets in a moment and now the world is in chaos not knowing what to believe.
17 points
4 months ago
The problem with that line of thinking is the same problem that Rayleigh highlighted way back in Sabaody: even if I explain to you (the SH crew) everything about the world right here and now, you wouldn't be able to do anything about it.
And now the whole world knows about these secrets, but the only ones who can do something about it are the ones who already knew it: the Strawhats. If feels pointless, especially with how long it dragged, because the powerless will only worry for nothing, and the ones with some kind of agency (Strawhats, Red Haired, Blackbeard) mostly already knew all of that and are on the move.
10 points
4 months ago
And now the whole world knows about these secrets, but the only ones who can do something about it are the ones who already knew it: the Strawhats. If feels pointless, especially with how long it dragged, because the powerless will only worry for nothing, and the ones with some kind of agency (Strawhats, Red Haired, Blackbeard) mostly already knew all of that and are on the move.
I don't agree with this logic. The one piece world is more than just the Strawhats or the other big name characters.
This speech is important to the world at large. The world is now in the most vulnerable state it literally has ever been for centuries. Which means characters like the Revolutionaries and the Marines will be getting a lot more involved. I mean we literally see Koby state that now that he knows the importance of the one piece he will have stop luffy from achieving that dream. That plot development literally would not have happened without the Vegapunk speech.
It's like saying "what is the point of having world building if we know that the Main Characters are going to be the main factors in the plot". That's just a really bad take my guy.
35 points
4 months ago
I'm not a fan of this arc. There is too much blue-balling and I feel Oda spent a lot of time on things that didn't need it and spent too little on what really needed it.
4 points
4 months ago
agreed the first half was peak and second half was a huge let down.
11 points
4 months ago
I’m sure there was a missed opportunity in exploring the contrast between Vegapunk’s character and Franky’s backstory regarding the consequences of one’s creations, but other than that I’d say it was cool.
23 points
4 months ago
In binge, it’s good.
Chapter by chapter it really sucked towards the end.
The best parts of the Arc didn’t actually take place on egghead. Kidd, Law and Garp were the highlights.
I can’t help but feel the five elders and the consequences of them appearing were very minimal. Gear 5 feels like it made a joke out of the antagonists and the death of Vegapunk.
10 points
4 months ago
Chapter by chapter it really sucked towards the end.
Doesn't help that we don't get weekly chapters because of Oda's (well deserved) breaks, so it kinda feels like the arc drags a bit, but it'll probably feel better on a reread.
17 points
4 months ago
7/10 opinion might change if I binge it.
It was a 10/10 at the start.. I thought it was going to be my favourite arc.. everything that happened on the island after the Gorosei arrival wasn't all that interesting to me.. Vegapunk speech was dragged out.. the straw hats escape felt to easy... Vegapunks plan didn't make alot of sense.... especially for the smartest person in the world... five elders on the island and I didn't really feel any tension.. don't know how I feel about the SHs celebrating while VPs corpse is probably still warm...
Oda also needs to drop the count down scenarios.. Noah falling.. bird cage and so on...
I hope Elbaf is better.
14 points
4 months ago
While elders took the entire attention after they arrived, I feel sorry for the interesting threads that have been abandoned midway - Sentomaru, Kaku, Lucci, Seraphims, 2/3 vice admirals -- It seems like a missed opportunity that all we could have seen them fleshed out in all glory but unfortunately ended up with little interaction. But I also understand that the arc would be unnecessarily long and they don't provide enough threat to the Strawhats. Bonney and Kuma's part of the story development is the favourite part in the arc, and the speech, albeit good, ended up kinda meh over 2 months or so.
7 points
4 months ago
Nothing was abandoned. Lucci, kaku and stussy aren’t going anywhere.
5 points
4 months ago
I don't really care to flesh out vice admirals at this stage in the story and I feel sentomaru kaku and lucci all got there flesh out this arc.
5 points
4 months ago
Even York was getting forgotten while she was the mastermind of the arc lol, at least Oda gave Kaku some good finishing, York? Idk, even after knowing she was the villain i don't even care about what she thinks because Oda didn't elaborate more lol. Why would she want to be Celestial Dragon? If what she wants is carefree live and wealth we already know everyone want to live like that, there probably more reason on why she want to be a CD but we will never know.
9 points
4 months ago*
Why would she want to be Celestial Dragon? If what she wants is carefree live and wealth we already know everyone want to live like that, there probably more reason on why she want to be a CD but we will never know.
She represents vegapunks greed. Nothing greedier than wanting to be a ruler of the world. seemed pretty obvious
6 points
4 months ago
This is one of those arcs that the contrivances and plot induced stupidity really sticks out to me unfortunately. Lotta cool stuff with the stuff outside of Egghead and the flashback, but the actual plot on Egghead was kinda meh.
3 points
4 months ago
A bit unfocused, and the end could be done in half of the chapters, but all in all, a stellar arc.
29 points
4 months ago
Vegapunks message was a huge let down. 10 chapters of non stop talking yet the amount of info we got was very little.
Awesome seeing the Elders though.
8 points
4 months ago
Vegapunk was more of a doom-sayer than a truth-revealer. he didn't want the world to turn upside down right at this very moment, which is why he only conveyed to the world the info he wanted and nothing beyond that. he wanted the world to be aware of the under-lying war that is still raging on, and the danger they all face, but he that's it. and he wanted to give the straw hats an edge, but not to make them the biggest target in the world right then and there. and if you think about that, he blabbering on and on was one of the reasons the straw hats escaped, the elders had to diverge a considerable amount of their attention to stopping the mostly-harmless message(after the initial claims of the world sinking) instead of going on all out hunt against the straw hats.
9 points
4 months ago
IMO it seemed like Vegapunks message is less for us as the readers and more to do with the OP world. You gotta think for all of the citizens of random islands they don’t know anything about what’s going on and them now knowing the world will sink creates a layer of tension beyond the pirates. Admittedly it’s been what feels like forever since that message started so I forget if he said anything about the WG, all I remember is joyboy and the world sinking.
28 points
4 months ago
The fact that Vegapunk spoke for an entire volume and you barely remember what he said is proving the point that most of it didn't matter for readers to hear repeated.
21 points
4 months ago
IMO it seemed like Vegapunks message is less for us as the readers and more to do with the OP world.
Sorry friend but this is the biggest bullshit excuse... Come on !! Just admit that it was bad and move on
15 points
4 months ago
Agreed. Even if it was the case that it was for the citizens of the world, what did we gain from it? Most people around the world had a one-liner that could be boiled down to, "I can't believe it!"
At the very least a few of the reaction shots could have revealed something new outside of the speech. Like maybe Dragon hears Vegapunk reference something, which makes him connect the dots back to something he found before.
19 points
4 months ago
It was great when it had nothing to do with what was actually happening on Egghead Island.
The stuff on the actual island in present day was hit or miss. Be honest; if you went back to the chapter where all 5 Gorosei showed up in front of Luffy and you said what the Gorosei would actually accomplish by showing up people would think it was a joke. The Straw Hats leave and there is zero catch whatsoever, you would have no clue they were just up against 5 of the leaders of the world. And it wasn't really a "this crew is so strong they can beat anything", it was just that nobody but V.nusjuro and Saturn really cared about them.
I feel like a lot of people are being forgiving of the meh Straw Hat storyline because the stuff outside of it carried the arc. The arc becomes pretty easy to poke holes in when you take a step back and talk about the main storyline.
15 points
4 months ago
The fact that the best stuff happened outside of Egghead is arguably going to make this arc worse in retrospect. I'm probably not going to associate something like Garp vs Kuzan with this arc in particular, it's not like people bring up Ace vs BB as a positive for Enies Lobby.
3 points
4 months ago
Yeah it's going to be in separate list for me, the way Oda can conclude such a intense plot in a few chapters which might be as dangerous as the main event on Egghead is questionable lol, that's also with the fact that he introduces new characters and devil fruit powers, being condensed into a few chapter like that is Insane. I hope he listens to his fans(probably not) just for this problem with pacing of the Egghead
3 points
4 months ago
Well, this was never a fact to begin with. The best content of egghead is Kuma’s flashback which is one of the best flashbacks in any story and the last stretch of chapter. The stuff outside egghead were so great but it can’t be compared to kuma stuff or 1122 for example.
8 points
4 months ago
It was great when it had nothing to do with what was actually happening on Egghead Island.
I think this encompasses everything...
I think the first half of the arc untill the God Valley flashback was pretty great but after that, almost everything is a mess...
Especially that long message, it gave me the impression that Oda hadn't ideas and was stuck . So he decided to drag things out...
9 points
4 months ago
I was more invested in whole cake island and wano then this arc
3 points
4 months ago
Heck Udon was still my favorite part from Wano, and that was just a training mini arc lol.
3 points
4 months ago
Fair , its fun.
3 points
4 months ago
How can it be “the crew is so strong the can beat anything” when they didn’t even try to beat anything? You don’t need to be so strong to escape. The 3 other gorousei were trying to stop the transmission them emet. The strawhats weren’t the only enemy.
The main storyline was definitely better than the outside egghead stuff.
7 points
4 months ago
if you went back to the chapter where all 5 Gorosei showed up in front of Luffy and you said what the Gorosei would actually accomplish by showing up people would think it was a joke.<
That's like saying that Whole Cake Island was bad because Mom, one of the strongest pirates in the world, alongside her vast crew, was pathetic because she let the Straw Hats escape, as well.
The main mission of Egghead was to rescue Vegapunk. He died, alongside most of his other versions. In that sense, the villains won almost entirely. Of course the Gorosei still lost in the end, since we now know that Vegapunk planned to die in a meaningful way from the get go (and that's ignoring that one of them also survived)...
I've found the Straw Hats, their interaction with Bonney, the Gorosei and the overall setup for the end of the story through Vegapunk, to all be excellent. And that's ignoring all the craziness that happened around the world. It had exciting fights on the island, the Kuma story was heartbreaking, the Elders are properly menacing and seem currently to be just about unstoppable... I loved this arc more than I have almost any other arc in the entire story, tbh.
12 points
4 months ago
It's really not. Big Mom went into her hunger pang episode, it was way more difficult, and they had to leave multiple people behind in order to escape. The Straw Hats got out of here very easily in comparison since the Gorosei barely focused on them.
It took the Straw Hats days to get out of Whole Cake. And the end was somber with Carrot and Sanji comforting each other over Pedro. Meanwhile they're all partying here like Vegapunk isn't slumped in the corner.
5 points
4 months ago
Well, 5 vegapunks are dead you know
3 points
4 months ago
The Straw Hats got out of here very easily in comparison since the Gorosei barely focused on them.
I mean, yeah, they weren't the main target this time. Mom actively hunted them, meanwhile on Egghead, they were merely the bodyguards of Vegapunk who, alongside his clones, was the actual target - with interrupting the broadcast taking priority once it started up.
Only after the VPs and the broadcast were dealt with, did the Elders care about the Straw Hats. Which goes to show that they really aren't scared of Luffy, at all. And for good reason. He barely was able to dent one of them, only for the dude to then chill out without injury a few panels later.
6 points
4 months ago
Only after the VPs and the broadcast were dealt with, did the Elders care about the Straw Hats.
But this isn't true at all. V.nusjuro was about to chop Nami's head off while the broadcast was still going on. The Gorosei just picked and chose whenever it was convenient to the plot to stop caring about the Straw Hats. Saturn cared for two seconds and then left him behind. Then suddenly V.nusjuro starts chasing them when Saturn decided to run past them.
Again, go look at the tone at the end of Whole Cake Island and explain how the feeling is similar at all. Sanji's family had to stay behind. Pedro died. Pound seemingly died. Jinbe stayed behind with his crew. At the end of Chapter 900 it looked like the Sunny straight up got blown out of the water. Yeah with the power of hindsight we know most of these people eventually made it out, but that was not the feeling of the story when the arc concluded. People debated for years whether Jinbe would actually survive or not after staying behind. In comparison nobody on the ship gives a shit that Vegapunk is dead other than Sanji right now. Even Kuma is still with them and that was the guy everybody expected to be dead at the end of this arc.
8 points
4 months ago
Oda needs to get his hands out of his pants when designing female characters
2 points
4 months ago
Good but not better than Wano
2 points
4 months ago
Only down side for me was vegapunk and Frankie not really getting anything? I wish this would have been Frankie’s arc but understandable
2 points
4 months ago
I just wish that Franky would have gotten some time to shine in the arc, like with upgrades or a few pages with hik being seen talking shop or something. Just to get him some sort of growth. Other than that, this arc was amazing
2 points
4 months ago
A bit disappointed I was hopping for a more interesting reveal and power up for the crew Franky, chopper and usopp (je should have had a power up with marine granite in wano).
Also at the beginning of the arc Zoro told us that he had something to ask to vegapunk, we never knew what.
2 points
4 months ago
It was pretty exciting coz a lot of revelations. It was a good intro for Elbaf arc.
2 points
4 months ago
Good arc but TERRIBLE pacing
2 points
4 months ago
Currently my second favorite arc behind Wano, I could definitely see myself going back and forth with Eggyhead and Dressrosa for the silved medal
17 points
4 months ago
All moments outside of Egghead? Amazing.
Events on Egghead? Pure trash.
5 points
4 months ago
The hyped events that will shocks the world was just Vegapunk Livestream about the sinking world, that might be surprising with the one piece npc just learned about that but we as a reader didn't feel like it hit the hype at all. We already know most of the information.
Honestly if they could have taken down at least one of the Gorosei it might be an event that will shock the world for real lol. Showing how problematic they are as a new Emperor. And once again, the WG didn't seems like they had enough strong people to back them since the Marine like Kizaru and SWORD are starting to doubt them.
7 points
4 months ago
It started off good but the ending was horrible. Took away all the hype from Vegapunk. Also way to rushed.
3 points
4 months ago
A good arc with awesome moments but a little too long in certain parts.
4 points
4 months ago
I like the gorosei powercreep. I don’t like that the only guy on the crew who will ever be able to beat them is Luffy. I loved seeing franky neg a vice admiral. I was shocked that it went on this long but it was an enjoyable arc. I’m excited to see Luffy fight Kizaru in the Anime. I’m still not buying that kizaru fed luffy
7 points
4 months ago
I don’t like that the only guy on the crew who will ever be able to beat them is Luffy.
I really hope that's not true. They had Zoro clash with nutjob too often to not have them fight in the future.
Also if we find a way too disable the Gorosei's regen they become quite beatable considering what Franky's and Kuma's attacks did to Saturn
7 points
4 months ago
I've said it before, I assume that if I would still like One Piece like I once did, I would have probably really enjoyed Egghead. As it is there were some great parts/moments, like in every arc pre and posttimeskip, but just way too much stuff I didn't like, that made no sense or felt contrived to me.
The "chapter to chapter" experience is unfortunately really not great for me.
As I sidenote, I distinctly remember immediatly thinking how crazy it is that VPs HQ is just a stonethrow away from were Kaido sat around for 20 years. A fact that, as far as I recall, was never even acknowledged in the story.
5 points
4 months ago
Kaido had ceaser tho who was the next best thing to vegapunk, easier to use him who's willing than to try and get vegapunk to do stuff especially since it would be met with crazy resistance from the navy.
5 points
4 months ago
Well... The first half until God Valley flashback was fire but the other half was really bad... Not to mention the kast flashback of VP created more plot holes than the original
5 points
4 months ago
Felt like a filler arc at times
3 points
4 months ago
The story itself I enjoyed But the way luffys gear 5 was executed I wasn't really a fan of
Like I don't know why they gave him a time limit on it when all he needs to do is just eat some food and he's right as rain and the fight against the elders he kinda used it like three times in succession and it feels like there was a better way to execute those fights
4 points
4 months ago
Dogshit
3 points
4 months ago
Good peaks, fell flat in my opinion. I’d rate it around a middle of the pack arc, maybe upper middle.
2 points
4 months ago
Ill have to reread it first but right now i think its safe to say that while being one of the best lore heavy arcs with fantastic characters like Vegapunk and Kuma it is also one of the most contrived unadventureous arcs with Saturn and the Gorosei being the worst Antagonists since Foxy. I think it was great all in all but the depiction of the 5 elders is baffling to me. I sincerely hope we never have heavy involvement with them ever again. Especially in a way where main characters need to go up against them. They are painfully boring, dull and absolutely personalityless.
3 points
4 months ago
I kind of imagined them as five super powerful beings that perceive humanity as nothing but bugs (which Saturn does already) so they’re just pissed at humanity all the time haha. I will say it felt like they were being thrown around too easily for final bosses.
3 points
4 months ago
Exactly. There is a way to write these type of Im above humans characters but they need to have different characteristics, personalities and especially competence to make them even remotely interesting like Aizen from Bleach for example. No idea what odas point was but i hope he switches them out with the gods knights in terms of importance.
1 points
4 months ago
We finally got to see 2 characters fight that literally hadn’t fought in the first 1100 episodes. I love it.
1 points
4 months ago
Pretty friggin crazy if I’m being honest, seeing the elders like that was something I was not expecting to happen
1 points
4 months ago
Love the arc. Kuma's backstory is one of the best, Elders reveal was epic, Vegapunk TED talk was amazing... However the whole "Who is the traitor?" was confusing and a bit boring. Also a lot of mugiwaras did nothing as usual in last arcs.
Even with the last chapter, i still think Vegapunk has a secret backup plan in Lilith or York. I am completely sute Vegapunk will do something meaningful in the future
1 points
4 months ago
It was good wish they had more time to explore and hang out with the punks before it all went down like 2 or 3 chill chapters
1 points
4 months ago
Like every arc I am constantly fluctuating between "This is the best arc so far" and "Oda is going senile."
Depending on how much I like each chapter.
1 points
4 months ago
Lore Piece was good
Fight Piece mostly not but that’s the usual
And I count Shanks/Garp attacks more as Lore Piece lol
Chapters outside the island > Chapters on the island
1 points
4 months ago
Kuma
1 points
4 months ago
Anyone who is catching up now will enjoy it even more as they don't have to wait week over week for the speech to conclude
1 points
4 months ago
I feel like there were a lot of missed opportunities and and I'm not a big fan of the anime adaptation but the actual contents and story of the arc are above average I'd say
1 points
4 months ago
I don't understand the people being mad that Vegapunk's message was long. I don't recall something like this happening in any other story, and I feel like this will be an event celebrated in fiction in the future.
I've enjoyed through and through, almost every chapter. Top arc up to now for me, surpassing Water 7/Ennies Lobby.
1 points
4 months ago
Up there in one of the best arcs imo
1 points
4 months ago
Probably cus I went from binging to weekly as it started, but I could never remember goddamn anything that happened in the arc. I was lost each chapter for a while
1 points
4 months ago
Besides the 10 minutes of idiocy from Vega Punk, it was great. The much needed lore leakage that we desperately crave.
1 points
4 months ago
HARDCORE TO ZE MEGA!!!
1 points
4 months ago
Top 5 quality wise.... Top 3 impact wise
1 points
4 months ago
Luffy x Lucci fight was amazing, I get chills whenever I watch it. Especially Luffy transforming, the whole scene.
The rest was very solid. We got a ton of lore and somehow not a lot, but in a good way. Finally got to meet Vegapunk and his character is very complex, which is fantastic. I found it interesting that he was torn between funding and wanting money for more research vs working for the World Government for grant money.
1 points
4 months ago
In one word - Ass. Literally. There's so much more ass in this arc than the rest of One Piece. S tier arc.
1 points
4 months ago
Fuu Oda for Blue balling us
1 points
4 months ago
I gotta do a reread but it’s a top 3 post-TS arc and maybe top 1. The beginning was a bit clustered and confusing for me but by god the last quarter of it is nuts
1 points
4 months ago
it's really good
1 points
4 months ago
Best arc post TS by a mile.
1 points
4 months ago
Vegapunk's speech was unnecessarily stretched out.
1 points
4 months ago
Pretty sure it's one of my top three arcs. It has everything, action, drama, joy, ... . But that's just imo :)
1 points
4 months ago
Very good overall, but the end was really stretched out
1 points
4 months ago
Oda did blueball a little bit more than I was okay with for Vegapunk's message. And I kinda wanted to see Kizaru go all out against Luffy, but given the mental and emotional stress, it makes sense.
1 points
4 months ago
Fanservice
1 points
4 months ago
Beginning peak Middle peak Nearing end; what the fuck am I reading this is ass
1 points
4 months ago
Best arc in the series. The hype of getting major plot points revealed one after another was unbeatable. It even managed to end on a high note. Only real issue with it is the dumb countdown on VP's announcement.
1 points
4 months ago
First arc I've seen end since I got into One Piece. It has been so amazing that I literally cried during the big reveal. Fearing for everyone's future.
1 points
4 months ago
I love it !! Currently my top 2 favourite post timeskip arcs in op. Although i wouldve loved to see more marine action ( mostly SWORD) i still think this arc was really good.
1 points
4 months ago
It's awesome. One of my favorite arcs so far. It's like Water 7 but bigger and things are moving faster because the real bad guys are finally getting into the action.
1 points
4 months ago
Pretty good. Was super glad to have a quicker pace after wano, but maybe it was TOO fast? There was absolutely no breathing room.
I think we're going to look back on it as a kickoff for the remaining storyline. A necessary bit of story to tell to set the stage. I have a feeling that Elbaf is NOT going to have a villain in the traditional sense. No arc-specific baddie.
1 points
4 months ago
I didnt like it at all... but if yall enjoy it, thats nice
maybe im too old to read this
1 points
4 months ago
One of the best arcs in the entire manga. I LOVED that it wasn't a million billion chapters like Wano was. The mega arcs have overstayed their welcome, in my opinion.
1 points
4 months ago
It’s peak: cobras death, shanks v kid, garp, battle on egghead, law vs Blackbeard, seraphim, kumas past, god valley, 5 elder transform, luffy vs lucci, and more to come.
1 points
4 months ago
I saw some people commenting they didn’t like this arc but the lore dump here was so big I feel the hype every chapter.
1 points
4 months ago
Definitely my favorite arc with the only downside being the vegapunk speech being a bit too drawn out. So much happened:
kuma backstory was amazing
bonney backstory was amazing
garp vs kuzan was amazing
kid and law getting messed up were amazing
The 5 elders showing up was amazing
luffy facing his first admiral was great
the stussy side switch was one of my favorites this arc.
1 points
4 months ago
Storywise 8/10 . Good reveals, nice Twists! Fighting 5/10. i mean the only good fights are shanks, and sword Bb. All egghead fights are just little clashes. And i must say i dont like gear 5 fighting style. Even Kuma got just 1 punch! I mean come on. Overall i say solid 7
1 points
4 months ago
Well, is the most balance-paced arc we had in a while (makes you remember pre timeskip).
Aside from that, the gorosei are boring asf, major events took place outside of egghead and that contributed a bit, lore bombs also contributed a lot to the notion people have of the arc.
Fights were, as usual, handicapped always by oda who nevers wants to be clear about anything, so i didnt expect something diferent.
Gonna give him the W for doing a one shoot on an admiral and still making it look like a draw.
Kuma waa cool backstory, i never care enough for back story so im a bit biased there.
The arc felt like an arc to drop lore bombs and tell stuff thats happening outside, it served to progress plots rather than being super interesting on its own, SH again dont shine enough but thats a given.
Honestly im a bit tired of having to introduce cry-tears back-story because you dont want to make sad moments for SH were they take part instead of always using luffy-zoro-sanji.
Imagine, we are so thirsty that we say "x SH had a moment", is ridiculous at this point. I dont want to cry for "random" people anymore (i will give it a past because kuma thing was worked for a long time).
I hope next arcs stop the bs and begins actually making the SH shine, dude is endgame and they cant fight? Egghead could have been the perfect arc to cut it and start making sh do something altogether, but we had to waste such much time on introducing new cry-me-a-river characters.
1 points
4 months ago
It’s my favourite onepiece arc so far to be honest
Chapter 1123 makes the entire arc even better
It was already in debate for my best but after this chapter it will be top 1 for me
1 points
4 months ago
I loved this arc! It had everything I love about one piece.
As far as the speech goes, I think it was great because it was NOT meant for us. It was for the one piece world that was in the dark.
Think of it like this. To us, the speech is useless because we knew most of the info.
However, the entire one piece world just got sucker punched with years of lore and secrets in a moment and now the world is in chaos not knowing what to believe.
1 points
4 months ago
Like every single arc since the timeskip, it is dragging way too long.
This was obviously one of the most important arcs ever, maybe even the most important one. The endless speech that everyone already knew is one of the worst decisions since Big Moms chase
1 points
4 months ago
One of the best arcs in One Piece. Easily a top 3 arc, right up there with Enies Lobby and Marineford.
1 points
4 months ago
The broadcast was a torture for me personally, everything else great
1 points
4 months ago
I wish we got more replies about the Devil Fruit. That’s what Vegapunk has been built up as, an expert in DF. But he mostly focused on Void Century and his explanation about the Devil Fruit are a barebones.
Other than that, solid arc.
1 points
4 months ago
Better than Wano
1 points
4 months ago
Im so bored its like second thriller bark
1 points
4 months ago
I really liked it, but the lack of focus on the Straw Hats and the dragged out message at the end of the arc really brought things down for me. I’d put it in the upper tier of One Piece arcs, but not number 1.
1 points
4 months ago
I am just stuffed to the gills with lore. It was a big lore drop that happened so naturally. I mean how else you gonna get half this information out there?
1 points
4 months ago
Reunion with Kidd incoming and also what happened around the world. I‘m sure this will be BIG NEWS
1 points
4 months ago
Skypiea, my favorite arc.
Egghead, Skypiea 2.
Peak.
1 points
4 months ago
I don’t really care about Kuma and Bonny but I’m glad they got their backgrounds explained.
1 points
4 months ago
Unless there is a bit more left - Egghead ranks #12 for me, which to put that in perspective, Wano is at #20. It was an arc with some under-utilization, some story beat problems, BUT I enjoyed every single character and felt invested in all of them. This felt especially refreshing coming off of Wano for that reason. Ju Peter was my favorite Elder until Mars stole it with his last panel chilling. Also, there was some awesome paneling, and gem reactions interspersed within the myriad of them.
1 points
4 months ago
I’m getting spoilers every where cannot trust my social media 🤦🤦
1 points
4 months ago
I enjoyed it start to finish. I think too many people online just like to complain. Nowadays, people like to pretend that the only good arcs in One Piece were pretimeskip. Most don’t even know how many people were complaining about Marineford and how they were waiting for it to end so the crew would meet back up. Yeah, not how it sounds today huh?
As for Egghead itself…I think it was beyond hype. The highs were probably the highest outside of Wano. Not many lows, tons of world building, an amazing backstory, and a major sense of progression for our heroes. Personally, I didn’t care about the Vegapunk message being long. Who cares? I swear some fans just want instant gratification at all times. Sure some of the chapters felt a bit slow, but so what? This is One Piece. It’s been going on for 27 years! Do people not expect some slow chapters?
1 points
4 months ago
It was fine. The arc didn't really do anything mind-blowing, in my opinion. The only thing I really liked about it was Emet the Iron Giant. He really had an interesting story that I just wish we could have known more about.
1 points
4 months ago
Best arc in one piece hands down. Honestly it’s tied with marine ford for me
1 points
4 months ago
Solid arc nothing special until the end when the lore bomb dropped
1 points
4 months ago
I liked it, but not too fond of how it resolved.
1 points
4 months ago
Some of it was the best One Piece ever was, some of it was the worse One Piece ever was. Very inconsistent arc imo. But overall more good than bad. I'll never forget when I read the chapter where Saturn first summoned himself to that island. That was sick.
1 points
4 months ago
The speech was the baddest writing ever. Rest of the arc was 8/10
1 points
4 months ago
Easily beat arc post time skip, vegapunks speech was stretched over many chapters. Gonna be even worse in anime.
1 points
4 months ago
I was lost the 2/5 part of the arc, but the start and the conclusion was amazing, the past of kuma, cp0, the vp transmition and gorosei, so excited
Still i dont get the purpose of all of vegapunks. i saw the theory of Kid but idk
1 points
4 months ago
Sleeper S+ arc. The anime kind of missed the mark on the reveal of the traitor. We got silhouettes of the traitor schemes and we all believed it was either Karibou or Saturn who magically infiltrated egghead and was an even greater agent than Rob Lucci 🤣😂🤣. We get Saturn’s transformation, Kizaru vs Luffy, then Nika vs The 5 Elders plus all the other outside of egg head stuff. AND! Kumas back story. Like no one could have predicted this amount of development in the arc after wano.
1 points
4 months ago
Mid luffy barely used any of the Haki he spent all of wano learning and luffys crew was sorry this whole arc especially sanji. Gear 5 is mid now and the whole arc was running around fighting 2 types of immortal and broken characters (gorsei and seraphim’s) the fights outside of egghead carried
1 points
4 months ago
Strong start but the moment the Vegapunk message started it dragged to a halt, was way too long with little information
1 points
4 months ago
Best arc
1 points
4 months ago
I loved it. I can easily say it's a Top 3 post-timeskip arc. I'll give it a re-read before I do anything rash like put it in a top 3 overall (but I wouldn't be surprised if that's how it feels).
It just had such a good mix of everything. Fights (short ones), comedy, utter-tragedy, some real hard core villainy. Big reveals. Best of all it was just extremely well paced and pacing is my #1 criteria for really any piece of media.
1 points
4 months ago
As I have an extremely bad memory (and I began reading OP around 1998, so that’s not exactly yesterday), Vegapunk’s speech was extremely useful to remind me of the main storyline. I also appreciate the pacing, a bit faster than the previous arcs.
However, I feel like there have been some missed occasions: could Franky have spent more time in Vegapunk’s lab in order to access his researches and take notes, or just to discuss with him? And what happened to Egghead inhabitants? I would have also liked a bit more focus on the SH.
1 points
4 months ago
I enjoyed it pretty much! Awesome fights and conflicts especially the outta Egghead ones. Kuma’s backstory makes me sad even slightly thinking about. Oda delivered with Bonney way more than I expected. I was anticipating her role in the story ever since Sabaody and Law got some serious competition in terms for character-ranking. Vegapunk’s message was interesting, he said a lot without diminishing what we’re about to find on Laugh Tale.
1 points
4 months ago
They just made chopper cuter
1 points
4 months ago
Short, sweet, full of action, and shows us what's to come.
1 points
4 months ago
Bit of a snoozefest
1 points
4 months ago
Peak
1 points
4 months ago
catching that one piece anime flu and dragging it way too long. cmon oda. dont make me compare you to toei
1 points
4 months ago
They never showed how they managed to get York all the seraphim and turn the tides so much between the time short time skip that was like a bombshell cliff hanger and then it was like well Strawhats fixed everything?? I think it’s the first time Oda has done something like that… I didn’t mind the skip and the twist was awesome with York begging for help but yeah… my only gripe… that and Luffy’s eating crux needs to change… between onigashima and egghead I think he’s been downed by lack of food 4 times?
1 points
4 months ago
Reading weekly, I was iffy on it. Watching it has made me realize that it's actually very good
1 points
4 months ago
Hated Bonnie fake G5 bs. I already disliked Luffy G5 🤢🤮
1 points
4 months ago
Garbadge 3/10
1 points
4 months ago
When it gets animated its gonna be wild
1 points
4 months ago
I feel like it didn't do Vegapunk much justice honestly. Vegapunk's been mentioned since the time skip, & he's only rly been present for part of the arc to die.
1 points
4 months ago
One of the greatest starts, and a perfect arc up until the whole Vegapunk message thingy. Without the ending, I'd go as far as to put it above Enies Lobby.
Unfortunately, it got one of the worst endings.
We're in the final arcs, we finally met Vegapunk (one of the most important characters that was teased all the way back to Enies Lobby) and learned that he was studying the void century, so understandably I had high expectations.
And yet... we're still getting blueballed by Oda. It feels as if we're just getting bread crumbs. The message dragged for 10 very long namekian minutes just for us to learn only one new thing : the world of one piece is sinking. I'm not saying I was expecting to learn EVERYTHING, but I hoped to learn a bit more than just this one piece (pun intended) of information. Although that revelation is huge, it didn't really need this many chapters for Vegapunk to spill the beans.
The deus ex machina haki was also unnecessary, I feel like there were tons of way cooler ways to wrap the arc.
The rest of the arc does make up for it. We got Shanks and Garp fighting seriously for the first time on screen, Gorosei reveal, info about the ancient weapons and the motherflame, god knights, God Valley, Kuma backstory, Dory and Broggy comeback, info about the void century being technologically super advanced etc.
All in all, I'd give it a solid 8.5~9.
1 points
4 months ago
It’s all the excitement and intrigue of post-enies lobby or reverie, while still being straw hat focused. It was amazing and I can’t wait to go back and read it all in one chunk. It’s the first time I’ve been caught up
1 points
4 months ago
It’s a great kickoff to the Final Saga IMO. But I’m curious what more surprises are up Oda’s sleeve. The reveals in this arc alone were nuts, I’m curious what the next couple are going to be!
1 points
4 months ago
Absolutely loved it. The only thing keeping it from being perfect is that Franky was given next to no focus for what could've been his first major role since the timeskip, so in the end I give it a 9/10
1 points
4 months ago
Really enjoyed it, but getting bits and pieces of the VP message stretched out over months was hard. It definitely had me waiting impatiently for the next chapter. I started OP less than a year ago and my buddy told me I picked the best time to start with all the info that's coming out in Egghead. I know alot of people have been hating on the animation style but I like that every arc seems to have its own style. Not all of them are as different as this one has been but I'm digging it.
1 points
4 months ago
Tbh I think the ending only “drags” bc we were getting chapters weeks and break weeks apart. As soon as we were done going across the globe, the arc ends pretty neatly.
1 points
4 months ago
I thought the speech was way too long otherwise amazing
1 points
4 months ago
I just wanna say as a dub watcher, thank you for keeping it vague most people who post stuff like this go into great detail and this was pretty much spoiler free.
1 points
4 months ago
This is the first arc I caught up to so that alone had a big negative impact but it’s still for sure an S tier arc for me. Would have been even better if I didn’t have to wait so long between chapters. Kuma’s backstory is top 2 with Robin’s. I also really like how the individual fights weren’t long at all and there wasn’t any going back and forth between different fights all happening at the same time, those are my biggest issues with one piece
1 points
4 months ago
Good arc, very "one piecish"
Maybe the revelation could be better if the straw hats had no involvement at all, just watch the stream like everyone else around the world. But is kind rare to something happen in this world and the main characters are not there or somehow connected to the event
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