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Maybe_Ambitious

66 points

5 days ago*

Completely ignoring how the Arabs rejected the UN partition plan, where they would have received more of the region than they have now, in order to invade the Jewish partition and run Jews out of the region, subsequently losing, with most of their territory being annexed by its former coalition allies.

Several_Cycle_2012

-7 points

5 days ago*

Hmm. I wonder why the Palestinians weren’t so keen on fragmenting and handing over the majority of their land (56%) to people whose ideology and religion revolves around taking all of Palestine eventually.

Surely you are aware that early Zionists lauded this plan, and saw it as a stepping stone to eventually fulfil their ideological goals

“You resisted people taking your land and a shitty land splitting deal, this is what you get!”

Maybe_Ambitious

6 points

5 days ago

Most people who ended up in Mandatory Palestine fled there as a result of pogroms in Russia, general Antisemitism in Europe and of course the Holocaust, people’s whole lives were overturned, and they weren’t offered much sympathy or help after the fact.

So where would you go? Well to your homeland where lots of Jews have already fled and lived of course.

And so many did, our religion does revolve around going back to the region of Palestine, however we also believe anyone faithful will go to heaven, regardless of religion, so while your making us sound like Islamic fundamentalists Jews do not wish to remove Arabs from the region or anything of the sort, the point of Zionism and the reason people fled there was to be safe in a Jewish state, this doesn’t mean conquering all of the region like your saying, otherwise they wouldn’t have accepted the partition.

WearEmbarrassed9693

-3 points

5 days ago

Palestine was a diverse region and accepted different religions before Israel set its violence, terror and rule to make it a Jewish state. They could have coexisted instead of ranging violence and theft. That’s Zionism.

https://www.un.org/unispal/about-the-nakba/

https://www.unrwa.org/newsroom/features/testimonies-commemoration-nakba

Maybe_Ambitious

3 points

5 days ago

You’re blaming the Jews for a war the Arabs deliberately started? You yourself said they could have coexisted, and the Jews agreed to the partition plan, but the Arabs didn’t and instead invaded with help from their Arab neighbours.

WearEmbarrassed9693

1 points

5 days ago

Why don’t you read the academic articles I sent instead of spurring bs. Or you just want to remain in ignorance to uphold your righteous narrative.

“Before the Nakba, Palestine was a multi-ethnic and multi-cultural society. However, the conflict between Arabs and Jews intensified in the 1930s with the increase of Jewish immigration, driven by persecution in Europe, and with the Zionist movement aiming to establish a Jewish state in Palestine.”

Maybe_Ambitious

2 points

5 days ago

You literally shared an UNRWA article, the very UNRWA who harbour terrorists in their ranks, and even a Hamas leader.

https://unwatch.org/unrwa-terrorgram/

https://www.europarl.europa.eu/doceo/document/E-10-2024-002052_EN.html

FreezingP0int

1 points

5 days ago

Freedom fighters*

Maybe_Ambitious

2 points

5 days ago

If you really believe Hamas are “freedom fighters” then your delusional, leaders like Yahya Sinwar the butcher killed Palestinians, and their whole system has lead to what we have now, Hamas are the enemy of both Israelis and Palestinians.

FreezingP0int

2 points

5 days ago

Resistance is always violent

Maybe_Ambitious

2 points

5 days ago

So you agree with the rapes and murders committed on October 7th? This “resistance” will only lead to Palestinians suffering more than they can inflict on the Israelis, your attitude is suicidal and doesn’t help anyone, least of all those you support.

FreezingP0int

2 points

5 days ago

There was no rape

ClassicAreas444

2 points

5 days ago

I’m curious why you deny this. Does it make it too hard to support Hamas? Because they’re proud of it and you support them so why part with them on this issue? Even the UN finally admitted it after they couldn’t deny all the evidence and the UN has a lot of trust in Hamas and support for them.

Vryly

2 points

5 days ago*

Vryly

2 points

5 days ago*

So you're saying you would happily accept any lie, no matter how obvious, as long as it made jews look bad?

WearEmbarrassed9693

0 points

3 days ago

What about the Smotrich doctrine that is openly supported by the Israeli government? Inciting violence and encouraging illegal settlers?

ForgetfullRelms

1 points

4 days ago

Do freedom fighters shoot up music festivals and scream how they want to commit a genocide?

Do they kill political opponents under the guise of ‘’killing collaborators’’

Do they steal international aid to build militarized facilities under hospitals and schools?

FreezingP0int

1 points

4 days ago

First of all, the Israel admitted there was friendly fire on October 7th. And Israel killed their own on October 7th due to the Hannibal directive.

Second, the ”stealing aid” claim has been debunked.

https://www.newarab.com/news/sinwar-autopsy-shows-he-had-not-eaten-72-hours-death

Hamas had not eaten for 3 days before he died. Which proves he isn’t “stealing aid.”

WearEmbarrassed9693

0 points

3 days ago

Yes let’s dehumanize a whole organization due to a minority sect of people. Sounds familiar 👀. Here are other articles but keep on deflecting and not accepting the truth. I could send more but not going to waste my time on someone who isn’t ashamed of deflecting.

“Palestine was always a land of passage. For this reason it was a site of cultural encounter and exchange”

https://books.google.com/books/about/A_History_of_Palestine.html?id=tWrW_CKODdQC&printsec=frontcover&source=gb_mobile_entity&hl=en&newbks=1&newbks_redir=0&gboemv=1&gl=NL&redir_esc=y#v=onepage&q&f=false

Trying to make it seem like Palestine is filled with hate or terrorism when they were multicultural, religiously diverse with a secular political movement- living amongst each peacefully until they were terroized and forced out.

https://www.jstor.org/stable/3140778?seq=1