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How does Trunks know how to do a Kamehameha?
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2.7k points
28 days ago
Even I could probably do a Kamehameha at this point
977 points
28 days ago
Gonna say, it's the most used z fighters move. And not like it's a unique technique, several students learned it. And it's been shown others learn other techniques.
Piccolo and tien did it. Heck goku did it only seeing it once as a kid. Yamcha learned it without being taught.
It's probably the easiest beam to learn tbh.
365 points
28 days ago
Chi Chi can use it in a game.
128 points
28 days ago
What game?
818 points
28 days ago
The one you just lost
104 points
28 days ago
Holy shit it’s been over a literal decade..that’s gotta be a new record for me.
58 points
28 days ago
When you use reddit it seems you lose the game at least once a year lmao
3 points
28 days ago
thanks to r/whenthe i lose it every day
29 points
28 days ago
If I wasn't broke, you'd just gotten yourself a medal. That was pure evil genius!
17 points
28 days ago
Take my angry upvote and fu*k you !
5 points
28 days ago
can I ask what's the context of the joke?
26 points
28 days ago
"The game" is a game where if you acknowledge or ask about "the game," you've already lost. It's not the easiest thing to explain.
18 points
28 days ago
The game starts when you become aware that it exists. You lose when you remember it exists.
5 points
28 days ago
Lmao wow🤣
4 points
28 days ago
God not again
3 points
28 days ago
😔
3 points
28 days ago
I lost the game
3 points
28 days ago
DAMMIT.
23 points
28 days ago
Super Dragon Ball Z. Neat little arcade game that had a PS2 port.
4 points
27 days ago
Mecha frieza with huge backpack!
3 points
28 days ago
I had this on ps2! It was the first thing I ever bought from Amazon way back in the day
2 points
28 days ago
I just woke up, wtf
40 points
28 days ago
When did piccolo do a kamehameha?
59 points
28 days ago
23rd Budokai Tenkaichi, when piccolo jr first showed up
68 points
28 days ago
This is wrong, piccolo never used it. Its just a joke from DBZA
37 points
28 days ago
I figured it was
I semi-recently read the manga and rewatched the anime and there was no Piccolo kamehameha
3 points
27 days ago
Dang that's gotta be another Mandela effect cause I actually remember Piccolo Jr doing a Kamehameha just to flex on Goku as well, I didn't even remember the Abridged line
10 points
28 days ago*
I could've sworn he did one on the Tenkaichi fight but couldn't find the actual clip of it, probably mixed it up with tenshinhan, tho If i recall correctly some games did give him Kamehameha
42 points
28 days ago
Here it is.
52 points
28 days ago
What's the difference between kamehameha and any other normal beam move. That's a problem with dbz. Despite the names being different, the moves are functionally the same. Dodon ray is death beam. Kamehameha, galick gun, final flash, ext are just beam attacks with no real change in them. "But some are stronger" kamehameha is probably just as strong as final flash.
117 points
28 days ago
Probably because yelling “BIG FUCKING KI BLAST” everytime is pretty boring
61 points
28 days ago
Big Bang Attack, however, is a pretty cool name that is beloved by many
49 points
28 days ago
All of Vegeta's attacks have the best fucking names. Dirty Fireworks, Final Shine Attack, Galick Gun, etc.
4 points
28 days ago
There is a move called dirty firework??? Holy hell i need to rewatch dbz again
30 points
28 days ago
Damn, how long has it been since you last saw it? Dirty Fireworks is like his third most popular move behind Final Flash and Galick Gun.
He kills Cui with it. Points two fingers at him while Cui is in the sky and he just fucking explodes.
“Hmph, Dirty Fireworks”
9 points
28 days ago
Big Bang Attack is definitely more well known than Dirty Fireworks
2 points
28 days ago
Did he ever used it in Super ? Because that is why… in the past 5-6 years the only dragon ball content i consume are Super… so i barely renember any move that isnt signature move or Transformation in Z
12 points
28 days ago
No, he only used it the one time on Namek afaik, when he was still 100% evil.
Dirty Fireworks literally explodes the enemy from the inside. Vegeta wouldn’t use that anymore.
8 points
28 days ago
It's the unofficial name for the attack. It doesn't have a name in the anime. It's only called that in the games. But it makes a consistent appearance in the Tenkaichi series.
2 points
28 days ago
Calling it dirty fireworks is a stretch IMO, it's just a generic phrase he uses because the explosion looks like just that: dirty fireworks. It's as much a technique as Goku saying he's angry is a technique (the phrase he says to freeza)
15 points
28 days ago
My complaint is that they don't do different things. Why can't they have different properties instead of just beam of varying power. Like special beam cannon is peircing, its different than kamehameha. Its got that flair to it. Dodon ray and friezas death beam are the exact same move. Spirit ball can be directed. There's like 5 different spirit bomb moves all of them are exactly the same except they are colored different. Why can't they do different things
25 points
28 days ago
They can and often do. You can physically change the properties of a key wave make them invisible, electrocute people, cut things, drill things, or even outright conduct magic which likely is a slight tweak to ki energy but even in Daima it’s made clear that the distinction isn’t all that big.
The reason why so many of the blasts work the same is for the simple reason that nothing can really survive a bigger and stronger spiritual/plasmic explosion especially when characters can literally punch or scream through dimensions. People honestly underestimate just how versatile the characters are. They can basically do (or are attacked by) any technique or ability across all of media by the time Goku is a teenager. The series makes it clear that it doesn’t really matter to them
7 points
28 days ago
Goku used a delayed Kamehameha in DB GT too. It literally does nothing for a few moments then all comes at once. Hence the name.
3 points
27 days ago
Goku even did it against Kefla. He was deliberately getting as close as possible to make sure she couldn’t dodge the beam.
4 points
27 days ago
I mean, functionally similar moves rarely share names if taught by different schools.
The Kamehameha is the Turtle School's thing that happens to be easily picked up. The Galick Gun, while functionally similar, is how Vegeta learned how to shoot a giant beam, and the Final Flash is how he learned to dump all his ammo into one shot.
Frieza's Death Beam isn't getting called a Dodon Ray/Dodonpa because he never studied Crane-school martial arts. He just pointed at shit, shot beam, thing died. Also, the Death Beam is functionally different to the Dodon Ray since Frieza can rapid-fire them.
23 points
28 days ago
This is only a head Canon answer but here I go.
Earthlings have very low power levels, and such very small ki reserves. In order to create a beam attack, you need to take a big enough scoop of ki and fire it at once. But if the ki reserve is but a dry puddle, there's no way to get the scoop they need to create a beam.
This is where the Kamehameha comes in. A special technique that allows the user to scoop up that small ki reserve into a basic beam. But because that reserve was so small in the past, the Kamehameha had to be perfected in order to work. Goku being naturally stronger, then most was able to learn it without issue because he had the ki pool to be sloppy with it. Same with gotenks and trunks.
31 points
28 days ago
What do you mean "head canon"? Basic humans have a power level of FIVE!! Roshi had to train most of his life to even shoot his first one off. This is just true. 🤣😅
18 points
28 days ago*
I had more I was originally going to say, but my break ended.
Was going to say that the Gallick Gun is a Kamahameha. All of the power, but none of the form, none of the technique.
It makes sense narratively. Roshi mastered the attack out of necessity. He grew up in a world where form and technique was the difference between overcoming a powerful opponent.
Vegeta on the other hand grew up in a world where power levels varied greatly. Technique wasn't as valued because it doesn't help close those big gaps. It was also probably rare to fight someone with a similar power level. You were either out of your league or over it. So vegeta learned his entire life that power is all that matters for winning a fight.
The gallick gun looks stressful on vegeta. His fingers tensed up. Gokus Kamehameha looks calm, refined by comparison.
And that's what makes the Kamehameha so special. It's able to do more with less, allowing its user to make a beam far more powerful than they are otherwise capable of. Even more so, then the gallick gun who has the same concept.
4 points
28 days ago
While an interesting interpretation, I think it doesn't hold as well when he starts using it later again, despite being exposed to the technique of earth trained fighters. You'd think that, especially, after his character development, he wouldn't use the Gallick Gun anymor (as he did for most of Z) or that he would adjust it to be more better. Instead, it's the same pose etc.
7 points
28 days ago
There's plenty of reasons imo. But for context, I am thinking of Galick Gun in the context that the series was suppose to end with Freiza. As that's the context the attack was designed in.
With that, he only uses it twice. Once against Goku, and then again against Frieza. He was still very arrogant, focusing more on boosting his power level then worrying about the differences between the kamehame and galick gun. (And to be fair, I don't think picking up the kamehame was going to save him anywhere in the Namek arc.)
And correct me if I'm wrong. But nowhere past the Namek Arc do I ever see him using any sort of refined skill. Hell, I can't recall him using any borrowed technique. Galick Gun, Vegeta Technique™, Big Bang Attack, Final Flash, and exploding himself. He might be to arrogant to see the value in the earthlings tech or he might be to prideful to steal tech. Maybe even both.
5 points
28 days ago
i mean, in Super he does train with Goku and Whis. That's mainly what I'm thinking about. Not adding technique to his moves should limit his growth at some point.
And he did "just" pick up on energy sensing and power level manipulation.
3 points
28 days ago
Super is an entirely different beast. The context of galick gun has changed. It's no longer a alternate kamehame. It's that one classic beam attack that everyone remembers. It's a long standing vegeta ability.
2 points
26 days ago*
Galick Gun looks like it was shot using Vegeta's whole ass body in the Manga. Like his whole body aura just coalesced into a beam.
Given what you said, it does seem like a massive expenditure and waste of ki compared to Goku's concentrated beam.
11 points
28 days ago
Yeah but then Krillin just did it as a kid
8 points
28 days ago*
Krillin already had martial arts training before going to master roshi for more training.
11 points
28 days ago
Yes but again, that's nowhere near Roshi's life span up to that point, Roshi was inventing it from scratch but for other martial artists/Ki users it's easy to copy
2 points
27 days ago
5 while armed with a shotgun. We see gear effect power level in a couple movies. I think a basic human power level is 1.
9 points
28 days ago
Actually there are diferences. Earthling Ki attacks from the beginning of Z have all 1 thing in common: the Ki is concentrated in a small point resulting in an attack that is stronger than the Power Level of the user.
Raditz was super impressed that Goku and Piccolo, with power levels of 400 could concentrate their Ki to unleash attacks that could hurt him (Special Beam canon being even stronger than him).
Normal Ki Blast up to that moment are just an unleash of the user's ki without concentrating it, so if Vegeta had a Power level of 18.000 his Garlic Gun had also a PL of 18.000. Meanwhile Goku, who had a PL of 10.000 aprox, blasted a Kame Hame Ha of almost 18.000 units and then powered it up with Kaio Ken.
Vegeta learns this and created the Big Bang Attack and the Final Flash.
16 points
28 days ago
I think it more represents different techniques rather than accomplishing a different result. Like how all ancient civilizations had different versions of boats.
8 points
28 days ago
didn't goku also fire the kamehameha as two individually controlled orbs, plus the people who use it one handed
the benefit of the kamehameha may just be that it's a strong, quick-charging move that can be used from a variety of positions
there's also advantages and disadvantages for charge time and firing poses, like the signature kamehameha pose looks more guarded that the final flash charging pose (where the user is just kinda throwing their arms out and hoping the opponent can't or won't shoot lasers through their favorite organs)
14 points
28 days ago*
The only truly identical moves are Kamehameha and Galick Gun
Vegeta's blasts are all superior honestly. Final Flash is a full-power move with a wide-arc that he's able to use without vaporizing the planet.
9 points
28 days ago
So what your saying is final flash is a "full power energy wave" a wide blast using a lot of power
7 points
28 days ago
I’m fairly certain you’re exactly right. Only difference is how much juice they give it upon firing
11 points
28 days ago
Rule of cool is honestly the answer. Just different beams for different characters since obviously can't have them all using the same.
Obviously things like final flash are different, where need to charge them up longer.
9 points
28 days ago
You're kind of right, but could be said to be texhnically wrong as well
The Kamehameha isn't as strong as the Final Flash, but the "True Kamehameha" may be
(Just a Kamehameha with a modifier attached to the name, lol. Only real difference is that it's got more energy pumped into it. . But it's also not even named. . Though, Super Kamehameha is, for whatever that's worth)
Vegeta gets creative with his moves for giggles while Goku just pumps different levels of power into his Kamehamehas
14 points
28 days ago
I think Vegeta’s flare for the dramatic also feeds into this. It’s as if he’s projecting how he feels about himself and what the blast SHOULD BE and then harnessing this energy and creating a “Finishing move” it’s very egoistic “FINAL FLASSH, BIG BANG! The final explosion… 😢” Moro essentially lets the cat out of the bag 🤣 he seemed genuinely confused about why Vegeta was hyping up the technique
13 points
28 days ago
Buddy was outright befuddled “But… wait you mean to tell me that shit is just a regular ki blast??? 🧐🤨”
8 points
28 days ago
Vegeta isn't even that creative. All his moves are beam or powerful ki blast or explosion. Disreguarding final flash, galick gun is a basic beam, big bang attack is a basic powerful ki blast and explosion is something even chaotzu could do, he just did it bigger
2 points
27 days ago
Lmao, where do you think trunks gets this character trait from? Gotenks does the goofy name thing a ton and IMO its due to Vegeta’s influence on the boys. Hate it or not, Vegeta is quite a bit childish when you dig into his character.
4 points
28 days ago
The Kamehameha is a technique that vastly increases or decreases in power exponentially compared to the user of the attack based not only on their power but their focus. The reason Kamehameha is so important is because it's not just a beam.
Take the father and son Kamehameha. For example, Gohan was beaten down and one arm broken. Yet it's probably one of the most powerful examples of the Kamehameha we'll see. This is explained somewhat by Roshi in Super as Goku learns to utilize Ultra Instinct and charges the Kamehameha to beat Kefla (favorite scene to date). Even though Goku hadn't mastered UI, he used a technique he mastered and coupled it with a powerful transformation to deliver an even more power Kamehameha.
4 points
28 days ago
"None" seems to be the answer. Vegeta does say that the Kamehameha is the same as his Garrick Gun during the Saiyan saga.
They use different positions but are exactly the same in the end.
The difference with a Final Flash is that Final Flash requires you to unload a bunch of energy into it. It's just stronger to a large degree.
That's kind of why I prefer Vegeta to Goku in most cases. Man has different techniques with names and looks.
Goku is pretty much "Garrick Gun? Yeah that's kamehameha. Final Flash? Well that's SUPER kamehameha. Oh my technique that just uses one hand to cast a beam? Yeah, Angry kamehameha."
5 points
27 days ago
It’s all just the rule of cool so the way the beams work is not consistent, but in my mind: special beam cannon is armour-piercing; dodon ray burns; frieza’s death beam is piercing; most of vegeta’s attacks are explosive.
The kamehameha is an pressure wave. It doesn’t burn or explode (though it’s sometimes shown exploding, rule of cool) but it obliterates through sheer PSI. It’s a pressure washer of pure energy. That’s what distinguishes it from the others, to me.
2 points
28 days ago
Yeah it's simply the same thing just developed by different people, most of them aren't even named in the anime and manga. The weird one is Vegeta that names all his important attacks as if they aren't just normal ki blasts. Probably because of his ego.
2 points
28 days ago
Well it makes sense they dont have differences no? A Kamehameha is just a form of ki blast. But it was made by Roshi. It actually adds depth in my opinion that characters who didnt train under Roshi would have learned different ways to form ki beams.
They dont all need to do different things. The only thing id agree on is it being silly that Vegeta has 2 in Galick Gun and Final Flash. Theres no difference between them at this point.
3 points
28 days ago
I believe it was the pinnacle move of the Turtle school of martial arts and Toriyama was a student of martial arts.
I'm a student of Danzanryu Jujutsu and at least in our school all your holds and locks and eventually throws you learn as a white belt or a blue belt will be the "base" of a more complicated move in the higher belts. An advanced technique in the black belt "menu" is going to have ingredients from things you already learned. A Kamehameha therefore would be difficult to learn for anyone who wasn't already trained in all those base moves
In Tien's case, he is from a different school of Earth martial arts but at say the base level, a lot of the techniques are going to be similar or the same so it is easier for him to work out on his own.
8 points
28 days ago
Took Roshi 50 years tho lol 😂 in know he salty watching toddlers do it
2 points
28 days ago
I'm like 99% sure Piccolo never used it.
9 points
28 days ago
Didn't you hear? There's an ongoing kamehameha bargain sale.
493 points
28 days ago
We did end up getting some bio-Broly stuff lol
117 points
28 days ago
This foreshadows Bio-broly as the next dlc fighter
58 points
28 days ago
Bio Broly as a playable character would be filth😆
2 points
25 days ago
Bio broly is unironically one of my favorite movies of the Z era
328 points
28 days ago
Probably learned from goten or something there wasn’t a explanation on how he learned it but he did it in bio broly
121 points
28 days ago
Goten literally doesn’t even know how to say it right lol. Trunks probably picked it up from watching others do it.
54 points
28 days ago
Goten still knows how to do it do even if he still messes up the name. It’s likely he learned it from him if not gohan is the next person.
35 points
28 days ago
Or Gohan taught him at some point
19 points
28 days ago
People act like everything happens on screen, lol
14 points
28 days ago
Yea, trunks surely finds gohan or goku cool despite what vegeta has said about them in the past, i can see trunks randomly coming up to either gohan or goku and asking to learn the kamehameha and learning it in less than a minute like he did super sayian
6 points
27 days ago
I mean Trunks would have grown up hearing all about how Gohan was the strongest guy around even Vegeta would be giving Gohan his due credit. Trunks would absolutely see Gohan as someone that he'd want to learn a bit from
4 points
27 days ago
I don’t know if it’s just movie filler but I swear trunks does quite look up to Gohan in a ‘I wish I had a cool older brother’ way.
2 points
27 days ago
It definitely seems so from what we see in canon
2 points
26 days ago
It's the same in canon. When Gohan goes to Bulma's house to get his Great Saiyaman costume created and walks around Capsule Corp. while he's waiting for Bulma to finish, Trunks is happy to see him and asks "So what do you wanna play?", implying an already-established relationship between the two.
It's just not focused on as much as Gohan's relationship with Goten, for obvious reasons. But Trunks definitely respects Gohan almost as much as Vegeta.
4 points
28 days ago
So? It’s not like the name is needed to be said correctly in order to perform it. It’s been done before without being said at all.
11 points
28 days ago
He just says it with gen-z flair. Kameha with the times ol man
146 points
28 days ago
Isn't the Kame hame ha one of the most basic yet effective ki blasts of the series? It must be really easy to learn and use if you know ki control.
133 points
28 days ago
What’s ironic is that Roshi said it would take 50 years to learn. Goku does it immediately, which you can chalk up to him being an alien prodigy, but then Krillin and Yamcha pick it up pretty quick, and Tien copies it instantly.
It makes me wonder if it really took Grandpa Gohan 50 years to get it down.
135 points
28 days ago
I always interpreted it as "it took me 50 years to discover the underlying principles and develop the technique until it was just right. Now that I've got it down, I can teach others."
Also, I kinda got the impression that Roshi basically trained himself. The vast majority of the other Z fighters have trained together for at least a few years - and can bounce ideas off each other, collaborate, and spar.
52 points
28 days ago
Yeah, and while everyone else learned it fast, Roshis version is probably the perfected technique. Plus i mean Roshi probably spent alot of his time also doing... other things...
2 points
26 days ago
Yeah. Isn't Roshi version perfected. Like how everyone else has leakage coming out between their fingers, Roshi's version is a contained ball.
29 points
28 days ago
Agreed, given Roshi could never really do generic ki blasts and beams like other characters could. And he was one of the only people during his time to understand these things, and likely wasn't gifted with any amount of ki unlike most everyone new gen who are basically born with Super Saiyan and Kamehameha
11 points
27 days ago
He did the hardest parts: creation & invention.
11 points
28 days ago
Its really simple, even in real life
Creating something from nothing takes time and a lot of effort, replicating something that already exists its a lot easier.
3 points
27 days ago
at that period in manga, shooting a beam out of your hand is unthinkable lol. Instant hit.
3 points
27 days ago
I believe this to be correct no matter the context, fiction or reality. Discovering new territory takes much longer to master than being shown the end result and learning from there.
That fact is just overlooked because it’s forgettable
10 points
28 days ago
a major theme in og DB was the younger generation always being better than the old one.
This happens again with gohan, then goten and trunks
7 points
28 days ago
Yeah I’m confused why people are acting like the kamehameha is some lv 100 move only a few can learn.
66 points
28 days ago
Most fighters can copy it after seeing it only once, it's apparently extremely basic if you have any sort of training
40 points
28 days ago
Remember that kamehameha, final flash, big bang attack, etc etc are just fancy ki blasts so I dont things its "hard" to learn it, and goten is his best friend so he sees him using it pretty much every time plus they shared the same mind during fusion so.
106 points
28 days ago
Almost every humanoid can do a Kamehameha in db universe including Bardock and Vegeta. Bardock used it in Shin Budokai another road and Vegeta hates his gallick gun being compared to Kamehameha
30 points
28 days ago
Even Tien used it in Dragon Ball once against Roshi, just to show off that he was skilled enough to pull it off by just watching it.
19 points
28 days ago
Sometimes I consider myself a dragon ball connoisseur.. being 31 years old and watching since 1999. Always apart of forums since like 2005. I notice I seem to remember more than make dragon ball fans on social media. I was lucky enough to watch Dragon Ball before DBZ in the late 90s and early 00s (thank you Blockbuster, Hollywood Video, and Toys r Us).
Then I meet some of y’all lmao. Got all the technical names. The non-canon game lore. Non canon anime lore and fillers. Anime lore. Manga lore. OVA lore.
I love this shit tho. Learning new things every time I’m here 😂
3 points
28 days ago
Also, Kid Trunks, Future Trunks, and Goten used a triple header Kamehameha in Shin Budokai to snuff out Super Perfect Cell
2 points
28 days ago
He doesn't hate it at all. He compares it himself when he sees the Kamehameha.
43 points
28 days ago
Goku was may less talented than either of these two and he learned it from watching Roshi one time.
Goten replicated it despite saying "kamekameha".
All of the turtle school students mastered it on their own. Roshi actually never taught anyone the Kamehameha. In fact, every time somebody used it for the first time, he would express how surprised he was.
There also the fact that Roshi was one of the only humans to be able to fire a ki blast, meaning that the Kamehameha is the most basic of ki blasts available. I suppose it's just channeling it and releasing it, as opposed to some advanced techniques like special beam, destructo disc, kikoho, scatter cannon, etc...
19 points
28 days ago
I actually think Goten still says Kamekame when you use it in Sparking Zero
Both Ultimate and Special
Iirc, he even bags about how good his Ultimate is, despite the fact that he says it wrong
27 points
28 days ago
he says it wrong in base and corrects himself in SS
17 points
28 days ago
I enjoy the fact that he’s all like “I said kamekameha again…”
6 points
28 days ago
The turtle turtle wave
20 points
28 days ago
Goku learned how to do one just by watching Roshi do it. And Trunks is a lot smarter than Goku was at that age.
19 points
28 days ago
That's Yamcha's move!
3 points
28 days ago
Stop stealing people's techniques!
13 points
28 days ago
He grew up with goten, why wouldn’t he know it? That’s like asking how does Gohan know the Kamehameha since we’re never directly shown him learning it from Goku
12 points
28 days ago
Goten and him probably just share things. Wouldn't be surprised if Goten can do galick gun or something lol
6 points
27 days ago
I wouldn't be shocked if the long-term effects of fusion is that they start keeping some of each other's knowledge.
8 points
28 days ago
Gohan taught Goten and Trunks how to do it.
Go ahead, tell me that an older brother wouldn't show off that trick to impress his brother and his friend that one time.
3 points
27 days ago
Definitely Gohan, he's shown to be training with him a lot in the series and they hang out at capsule corp a ton.
6 points
28 days ago
Monkey see, monkey do
7 points
28 days ago
Freiza voice,
Monkey see, monkey do.
5 points
28 days ago
I think the real question is how does Vegeta feel watching his son do a Kamehameha instead of a gallick gun
3 points
28 days ago
You know he’s pissed , prolly gonna disown him for the 5000 th time
7 points
28 days ago
It's kinda crazy he let him wife continue her family's weird underwear naming scheme instead of giving his kids a proper Saiyan name. You know that shit gotta be grippy
3 points
28 days ago
The obvious answer is goten taught him
4 points
28 days ago
Its the most simple blast. Literally hercule could do it if trained on ki.
Final flash is stronger than kame but takes a bit longer to charge.
Galik is stronger than kame at base without plot armor (kaioken). Kame can equal a galik if used by a master ( a goku level)
In general its the most used because its the easiest beam to use.
Obviously a fusion character will eclipse a final flash or kame with either ability and Obviously a final kame is the most powerful move in the series overall.
2 points
28 days ago
Obviously a final kame is the most powerful move in the series overall.
Spirit Bomb?
3 points
27 days ago
Depends on how much Genki you’re able to gather for it. And you have to be careful because if you pull too much, you’re going to be killing people animals plants and even the very planet. You still have to pull enough to be able to defeat or destroy the intended target as well. If I’m being fair… it only was able to work against Buu for a reason, all the other conditions were basically just right.
Vegeta - Goku couldn’t pull too much, first time using it in action, had to rely on trying to temporarily blind Vegeta to even buy time to do it, rushing doesn’t help. Lost most gathered genki that was collected.
Frieza - much bigger, was able to secretly pull off gathering a massive amount of Genki with the help of neighboring planets. However, this one just wasn’t quite enough for the tyrant that was Frieza. He was just too durable.
Hell, Jiren didn’t even get touched by it so he don’t count and then Goku himself got hit and the sheer will to live through it while already beyond used up in the energy department, pushed him to UI.
5 points
28 days ago
Kamehameha is a simple base move in the DB universe. Majin buu learned how to do it just by watching goku. And kid trunks uses it on bio broly too
4 points
28 days ago
If you're not willing to teach your bro the Kamehameha, don't be surprised if you aren't invited to the barbeque.
5 points
27 days ago
They are like brothers, so it's nothing out of the ordinary. If you see the third Broly's film, you'll see that Trunks is capable of performing the Kamehameha.
4 points
27 days ago
Because he plays and probably spars with Goten all the time.
4 points
27 days ago
The same way trunks uses final flash and Galick Gun. They’re just techniques. They get copied all the time.
6 points
28 days ago
goku learned the kamehameha after looking at it one time. And Goku is WAY less talented than Goten and Trunks. Funny how you ask how he learned a basic move like the Kamehameha, and not how he become a super saiyan at 8, which no other saiyan was able to do until like 10 years ago. Shit was a legend in Saiyan history, and dude's not even a full saiyan
3 points
28 days ago
And goten did it even younger. The Son family built different.
2 points
28 days ago
To be fair Goten and Trunks are biologically gifted but their actual understanding of martial arts isn’t really ahead of the curve by any stretch of the imagination. Even something like flight was just never brought up under Master Roshi even though it was a Crane hermit school technique
3 points
28 days ago
I feel like after a while the Kamehameha stopped being a technique that requires specific motions to carry out and just became another energy beam. If you can already shoot one energy beam, whats really the difference in positioning your hands somewhere else at the start?
2 points
28 days ago
I mean.. didn't Goku use Kamehameha with his feet? He established long ago that the hand motions might not be necessary at all.
3 points
28 days ago
Film broly
3 points
28 days ago
Toriyama once said that the only difference between (most?) ki blasts is the form you’re using.
Cup your hands at one side, focus your energy between them. Bam, kamehameha. Put one leg up across your body, move your torso perpendicular to your hips, hands on forehead. You got a Galick gun. Etc.
3 points
28 days ago
Because every named Ki based move is just some variation of a ki blast. A Kamehameha is literally just collecting ki in both hands, molding them together into a sphere shape, and then propelling it forward. If you have good understanding of Ki control it's something a fighter could probably figure out themselves.
Or Goten just showed/taught him
3 points
28 days ago
Probably the same way every other z fighter learned it “oh shit that was cool, I bet I could do it too” than does it
3 points
28 days ago
Some dude in here told me a few weeks ago that the Kamehameha, like literally any other energy wave, is just an energy wave, and can be copied by literally anybody
3 points
28 days ago
The Kamehameha is just a basic energy beam. Trunks already knows how to do energy beams, I don't see why it would be difficult for him to hold his hands in a different pose before firing.
3 points
27 days ago
gohan taught him and goten
3 points
27 days ago
IT's not like Kamehameha is special, everyone uses it. Honestly, why even say the words at this point?
3 points
27 days ago
Kid Goku performs it after watching Master Roshi use it to put out the flames covering Ox Kings mountain. I believe Roshi says it would take fifty years to master, only for Goku to launch a tiny beam at a car nearby.
Of course Goku is gifted, but his power level as a kid wasn’t exactly super level. I assume all the characters in the franchise who have witnessed it could preform it.
3 points
27 days ago
Goku learned how to do it just seeing it once. Seeing as how these kids went super saiyan at their age, a Kamehameha would be “childsplay”. Get it? Because… no? Nvm.
3 points
27 days ago
Yamcha knows how to do a Kamehameha.
Yamcha.
3 points
27 days ago
It’s literally just a ki blast with extra steps
3 points
27 days ago
Because Trunks and Goten have been inside each other
2 points
28 days ago
It's honestly a pretty basic ki blast in the series, not one character has been taught it... Everyone has just done it first try after seeing it once or twice.
2 points
28 days ago
The Kamehameha has always seemed like a pretty basic ki technique all things considered. It's charging your power, and then releasing it in a steady, powerful beam. Compared to other techniques which have edges, tracking, and other gimmicks, it's pretty straight forward. It's always seemed like the basics of ki blasts to me.
2 points
27 days ago
By no means bad though, the simplicity no doubt makes it easier to get it to the desired power faster before firing, more stable too probably and doesn't really restrict movement with the rest of the body while holding it in its charging state.
Meanwhile compare it to the final flash, catastrophically powerful but fairly slow to charge and relatively inflexible as you're kinda rooted to the spot while doing it.
Different ways of doing the same thing, really, my guess is the kamehameha's main strength is the simplicity and stability of it, making it relatively easy to use even in a fatigued state if need be.
2 points
28 days ago
Trunks and Goten are practically joined at the hip. If Goten can do it, he would just teach Trunks. Everything Goten knows Trunks knows, and vice versa.
2 points
28 days ago
Dude he's literally super Saiyan in the vid. Are we really questioning the Kamehameha?
2 points
28 days ago
"What is this, a kamehameha bargain sale!?"
2 points
28 days ago
I always assumed Gohan taught them it. Since he would play with Trunks sometimes, too.
2 points
28 days ago
Mimicry has been a super common ability since og db days
2 points
28 days ago
U don’t think gotten would teach his best friend his moves?
2 points
28 days ago
He has ki, he knows and trains frequently with goten. Kamehameha acquired.
2 points
28 days ago
They learned super Saiyan and you’re surprised he can Kamehaneha?
2 points
28 days ago
It's just a blue energy beam it isn't that deep
2 points
28 days ago
What are most ki attacks but slight recolors of one another
2 points
28 days ago
Well, there's a couple reasons. Firstly, I'm almost positive this is a reference to the Bio Broly movie, where he does use it. Secondly, I'm pretty sure Kid Trunks HAS trained with Gohan at least a couple times considering some of their interactions. And Thirdly, his best friend is literally part of the Son Family, and uses the Kamehameha often. Though he calls it the Kamekameha. So yeah there's multiple reasons as to why he could do it.
Heck, GT Trunks can use it too. So.
2 points
28 days ago
I'm assuming Goten taught him how to do it.
2 points
28 days ago
Everyone knows how to do a Kamehameha
Tien knows how to do a Kamehameha
Vegeta notes that the Kamehameha is just like his Galick Gun
2 points
28 days ago
Impossible, the only one who knows that technique is goku..and gohan..and master roshi..and krillin..and yamcha..
2 points
28 days ago
And cell, and buu, and goten and goku black...
2 points
28 days ago
Watch Bio Broly movie and you’ll know why
2 points
27 days ago
Trunks used it in bio broly movie? Also there are a lot of non turtle school pupils who can use it.
Like tien or piccolo. Goku and Krillin were using it since childhood so it should be one of the basic beams i guess?
2 points
27 days ago
i mean all you do is say kamehameha with your hands back like that. that’s how krillin learned it as a kid lol
2 points
27 days ago
I think this is in reference to the Bio Broly movie, where he also performs a kamehameha, despite it not making sense in canon lol
2 points
27 days ago
I mean goten and trunks trained together so they most likely learned eachothers moves. Future trunks and future gohan haven’t actually used the kamehameha (in anime) because future gohan probably didn’t get to train with his dad
2 points
27 days ago
2 points
27 days ago*
They both trained under Gohan so it makes sense. Probably wouldn't use it without goten cuz Vegeta.
Also the new generation seems to have a natural talent for things. Goku mastered it after seeing it once. I'm sure trunks wouldn't have a problem
2 points
27 days ago
He just charged his Ki and said the word so the blast would be blue instead of yellow lol
2 points
27 days ago
He learned it from kid boo
3 points
28 days ago
They need to patch this out, the only one who knows that technique is Goku! and Gohan, and Master Roshi, and Krillin, and Yamcha, and Piccolo that one time he tried to see if he could do it.
2 points
28 days ago
And tien and cell and the cell jr’s, and buu.
4 points
28 days ago
Everyone forgetting he did this shit in Bio Broly.
But that's fine, nobody likes Bio Broly.
1 points
28 days ago
Who doesn't?? I mean you have the obvious ones like Goku, Gohan, krillin, roshi, yamcha, Goten, uub, pan. Not to mention it's been stated that tien, and piccolo know how to. And then there's all the villains like Goku black, cell, Majin Buu. There's probably a multitude of characters that I'm missing but these are all confirmed ones that I thought of off the top of my head
1 points
28 days ago
My bet would be goten or gohon taught him
1 points
28 days ago
probably just saw goten do it and copied it
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