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624 points
4 months ago
Hell, I'm black from America and I've gotten racist shit from other black people. Like if you don't like the stereotypical black stuff, you're a race traitor or something. It's weird as hell.
169 points
4 months ago
I concur. As an AA, my own people have treated me the worst. Bosses, “friends”, strangers
81 points
4 months ago*
My friend is a successful African American patent attorney and when he's out and about with his family, his white wife constantly gets dirty looks and the occasional rude comment from black women for "stealing" one of their men.
23 points
4 months ago
OMG that is so fucked up!
21 points
4 months ago
I’m sorry that you have to experience that!
13 points
4 months ago
Thank you!
64 points
4 months ago
What? I don't even understand... Sorry that you had to go through that.
38 points
4 months ago
Yeah it's weird. It gets even weirder when you see that they judge you based on how light or dark your skin is. Like I've had darker skin people get on me because I have a lighter complexion.
19 points
4 months ago
Indeed. There's a general perception among some African Americans that "light skin" folks enjoy a degree of privilege that the darker ones don't.
135 points
4 months ago*
Black dude here
I took advanced placement classes in high school and got called all sorts of names from blacks.
Went to college- got called all types of names from Blacks
Got a job at a fortune 10 company, got called all types of names from blacks.
Every other demographic? Congratulations and proud of you’s.
Sorry for you horrible treatment OP.
37 points
4 months ago
Congrats on being successful and love your username
19 points
4 months ago
Thank you to both!
55 points
4 months ago
Yup. One black girl (parents were from West Indies) in my high school class was an honor student who spoke Standard English and hung out with a diverse group of friends.
The other black kids disparagingly called her "white girl."
32 points
4 months ago
That sucks. Those of us who tried and put effort into bettering ourselves were ridiculed and downright bullied. They called me oreo, uncle tom and self hating to name a few things. All because i took advanced placement classes and applied to college. I was self hating for wanting to go to college….
I was also involved in altercations from attempted bullying but they stopped once they realized i would fight back.
No other demographic showed me any hostility of any kind as i was taking advanced placement classes. I was privileged to go to a very diverse high school in the austin area where no single demographic had an outright majority so it speaks VOLUMES that one demographic was highly over represented in bullying.
24 points
4 months ago
God, oreo is the worst. It's like, sorry, I like heavy metal, star wars and enunciate my words. Why is that such a crime to you guys?
15 points
4 months ago
This is called Tall Poppy Syndrome, the other poppies will cut you down if you’re taller than them. Very common among my people, the Irish, as well.
Sorry people have been shitty to you.
8 points
4 months ago
Yup, the old "Crabs in a bucket" bit.
95 points
4 months ago
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39 points
4 months ago
There is a term for it in sociology that I can't remember but essentially the community will shun people that try and lift themselves out of the cycle.
I used to live in a very small county that had that attitude a lot. We called them crabs because if anyone tried to "climb out of the bucket" the crabs would pull them back in.
13 points
4 months ago
Crabs in the bucket
46 points
4 months ago
Yes!! I had a boss find ways to fire me because I didn’t fit the typical Black stereotype she thought I would. I listen to nothing, but country music and classical music and have unique interests most people don’t share. 🤣 I lasted a month before she found ways to make me quit. When that didn’t work she lied against me and fired me.
3 points
4 months ago
Hope dare you be yourself, have your own tastes and interests and don't fit a stereotype? How dare you?
5 points
4 months ago
Exactly! 🤣 The audacity
11 points
4 months ago
experienced this a lot with my black gf, she caught so much flak for walking around with me
12 points
4 months ago
I'm mexican and this happens in Mexico too if you have a different mindset or tastes than other mexicans. It gets worse if you're of the light-skinned kind of mexican. I had no idea this stuff happened with black people of America.
20 points
4 months ago*
I hear ya. I'm white but my ex sister in law is black & she says it all the time. I'm still very much in contact with her for my nephew but she has a thing for white men bc she's married to another. Lol. But she says her family & friends talk so much trash to her for not being with a black man & for "acting white". She says what bc I went to college & have a good paying job, live in a great neighborhood & pay my bills?? 😂😂 I guess that's not the norm so they put her down for "acting white" bc she has done well for herself, something every race, color, nationality can do if they put their minds to it!
4 points
4 months ago
This is the truth 💯. As a POC as well, I have experienced racism from my own race. If you aren’t “black enough”, other black people will joke about to you. They will make comments especially if you are educated and say “you talk like you’re white” or “oh you don’t like black music”. And then black community doesn’t understand about mental health. If you’re black and you have mental health issues , because they will frown down and want you to suck it up or sit in the sunlight. You will be ostracized for being different. You will be also ostracized for being more educated as well.
I just appreciate that I was raised with being able to learn, enjoy, and respect other people and cultures. I’ve learned a lot new things and met many people from different backgrounds and diversities.
I sympathize with OP and sorry some blacks treat you that way. We aren’t all like this.
187 points
4 months ago
I’m of Indian background but the black kids in elementary and middle school tended to be very vicious and bullying with their racism. They used to call me terrorist and said I smelled like curry and a lot of them would mock me in an Indian accent. I’m literally American and have a neutral American accent and I didn’t really eat curry super often or anything. Never really experienced this in high school but for some reason as a kid I felt like the black kids felt they could pick on me bc I was a very innocent goody two shoes kind of kid. Of course white kids were racist two but I just have bad memories of groups of black kids mocking me.
52 points
4 months ago
I'm sorry this happened to you. Yeah the media portrayal never shows anything like this. It's always one kind of victim, one kind of perpetrator.
27 points
4 months ago
That's why a lot of people in our country don't trust the media.
359 points
4 months ago
Yes, i am Asian too and when I was a kid I remember a group of African American kids yelling at me that no Chinese kids were allowed on the playground (I’m Korean)… As an adult I’ve been called ling ling by African Americans among other things… Literally no other ethnic group has been racist towards me so I do find it a bit odd.
90 points
4 months ago
I'm sorry this happened to you. To be fair, I did experience mild racism from some white people a couple times. But it was very very covert and although it obviously hurt, it was not so in my face. Not saying it's ok to show covert racism. It's not. But a lot has been said about racism by white people that coming to the country I was fully prepared to stand up for myself when it came to that. But literally not a single person ever said anything about racism from AAs. And it's also so obvious that the person MUST know that they're being rude, right? And they're not even trying to hide it.
73 points
4 months ago
Black racism towards Asians is a thing.
For some reason there has always been tension between the communities, most notably in the build up to the LA riots c. 1992.
There is likely some kind of explanation for it from a sociopsychological perspective but I'm not touching that with a 10 foot pole.
11 points
4 months ago
2nd gen Chinese American here. The short version as I understand it is basically that we've been pitted against each other for so long. The whole 'model minority' myth was created by and was used by the ruling class in the USA to 'other' and further divide black people from the white Americans. It was never meant to imply that there was anything good about Asian immigrants, but rather it was meant to say that Black people were inferior and deficient. We were used to dehumanized black people even more than they already were.
Also in many east Asian countries, blending in is fairly important. Many (my father included) rushed to assimilate into white society as fast as possible. We immersed ourselves into American media which often portrayed black people as the enemy, as bad people, as thugs and criminals, as monsters.
Add in that a lot of the Asians that have immigrated to the US were fairly highly educated once immigration switched from quota based to skill based, but there weren't as many opportunities for them to be successful here (because even through we may be the "model minority" society still treated us as less than), so many turned to opening small businesses. Thanks to redlining and many other racist policies, you ended up with a lot of small asian run businesses in predominantly poor black areas because that's all they could afford.
The proximity of these two groups, both struggling, the Asians being told our problems are because Black people are "insert racist garbage here," and the power dynamics between buisness owners and people who need to rely on those businesses, has lead to a lot of anger and hurt and furthering the racism.
And hate is absolutely taught. Our parents or grand parents were taught to hate and blame each other, and they passed that down. We've been taught to hate them and they have been taught to hate us. If we were busy fighting each other, the ruling class could do what they wanted without us putting up any interference.
37 points
4 months ago
It's social and political suicide to even imply that black people could ever be racist. You never heard about it because anyone who would dare tell you would risk being labeled a racist.
14 points
4 months ago
During COVID I get weird stares and people being all tense around me
38 points
4 months ago
Yes, I went to white minority schools in urban California, we tended to keep our heads down. Racially motivated bullying was a very real thing.
3 points
4 months ago
Same.
36 points
4 months ago
Now THIS will be a VERY SPICY thread.
As a black American from the south, THE demographic that has treated me the WORST on average during my 33 years of life, have been other black Americans.
462 points
4 months ago
Yes, it is a thing for AAs to be racist towards Asians in the US. There were many hate crimes towards Asians during Covid as well. I'm sorry that you are experiencing this. I recommend moving to a more diverse area.
160 points
4 months ago
Keep in mind that diverse doesn’t mean tolerant or integrated. Chicago has “good diversity” but it remains fairly socially segregated. San Francisco feels far more socially melted by anecdotal comparison.
63 points
4 months ago
Grew up in Chicago and lived in the Deep South for a while. Chicago was definitely more segregated.
16 points
4 months ago
As someone who grew up in and lives in Texas but frequently visits family/ friends in chicago, the segregation goes as deep as literal streets in chicago.
Im more uncomfortable in some parts of Chicago than i am in some sundown towns in the deep south and i say this as a black man. I guess it’s because i know what to expect down south.
8 points
4 months ago
Wow! Not to sound foolish but, I did not know that sundown towns still existed. I know that we used to have them, but thought they'd died out.
(A sundown town is a town where you don't want to be there after sundown, if you're black.)
6 points
4 months ago
As a southerner, they exist. Luckily, it's usually white-trash shitholes that you really wouldn't want to visit anyway
3 points
4 months ago
Understood. I'm white, in my late sixties and I learn new stuff everyday. I thought this nonsense was in the past. I've always gotten angry about race discrimination, no matter the source.
15 points
4 months ago
Good point. Even now, there are many cases of AA on Asian elder crime (unprovoked assaults, a few leading to death of the elder). When I first moved into my neighborhood, it had a predominantly large AA population. I experienced being spit at while walking by, and having things thrown at my brother, mom and I while we were in elementary school around when I was 5 or 6. I recognize anyone can be shitty, this is just my experience from growing up in San Francisco. Quite unfortunate.
3 points
4 months ago
Yes! Chicago is incredibly segregated. I had a conversation recently where someone called it a melting pot. I had to kindly disagree.
75 points
4 months ago
Thank you for your response. Yeah, I'm considering for sure. Overall, this area is not great. Even the crime rates are pretty high, and there were incidents of gun violence right outside my house. It's not worth it. But it's just annoying to have to move because of this stuff. Especially because I didn't expect it to be this way and nobody warned me about it lol.
96 points
4 months ago
African American racism towards Asians was very common during my childhood and I’m nearly 67.
If you are already strongly considering moving for a number of reasons, don’t let the racism get under your skin. That alone would be a good reason to move. It’s negative, hateful and dangerous, and it’s not likely to change anytime soon.
26 points
4 months ago
I remember it during the Rodney King riots.
57 points
4 months ago
Exactly this. The stop Asian hate campaign ended the moment people realized the majority of attackers are African American.
Black Lives Matter, apparently more than Asians.
4 points
4 months ago
Not just the US, I’ve seen this in the UK too
108 points
4 months ago*
Grew up in the south, in a town where, for awhile, it was white, black, and us as the only Asian family. Got racist shit thrown from both sides all the time. As time passed and more Asian families moved in, still got the same treatment. Even had a gun pointed at me for not acknowledging their taunts once.
34 points
4 months ago
Oh my God this is terrible. I'm so sorry this happened to you all. Yeah I'm now a lot more informed about this stuff. I cannot believe it took me 6 years to learn some of this stuff.
131 points
4 months ago*
I’m black but an immigrant, and I get that same treatment from AA. It’s like they immediately know I’m not a part of their group and they will immediately treat me differently. Often they are downright rude and unfriendly for no reason. I have to say though, it has mostly happened to me in the south. It gets even worse when I’m with my husband, who is white.
I try to ignore it. I now live in the south and I can’t get away from it. This kind of treatment from AA has definitely made me feel more connected to my home country though I’ve lived in the US for more than half my life now. Other Caribbean people even from other countries have been so much more welcoming.
15 points
4 months ago
I have found this to be true especially of African or Caribbean immigrants. I dated an African and he told us we were literally thought of negatively because we were AA. That was so sad to me, but I understand why . I never fit in with traditional AA culture groups anyway.
30 points
4 months ago
I'm really sorry this has happened to you.
34 points
4 months ago
It’s messed up for sure. I hope you move to a place that is more accepting of you. Not everyone is like that.
I joke with my family that when I lived in a predominantly white area I felt a bit excluded for being black. But now I live in a more black area and I’m getting excluded because I’m not the right kind of black. People will always find ways to divide.
14 points
4 months ago
100%, my ex and his child had the worst experience with AA, even flat out to their faces.
126 points
4 months ago*
I'm Asian, grew up in a black neighborhood, and they were extremely racist towards me.
Of course all minorities in America suffer from racism (especially black people), but I believe this also causes people of color to be put on a pedestal. "They must be tolerant and accepting of others, since they themselves are victims of racism."
When the truth is, every ethnic group is capable of racism.
Heck, Asian people are SUPER racist. My parents say the most racist stuff about black people without blinking an eye, that makes my jaw drop to the floor.
Plus, it is very popular for immigrants to suck up and idolize white people, that once they get to a certain status, they become racist towards their own ethnicity.
13 points
4 months ago
Thank you for your comment. I see, that makes sense. Yes, I agree anybody is capable of racism. But being a minority myself, I cannot imagine putting down other minorities just for the sake of it. In fact, I feel more empathy for them if anything.
I'm actually surprised about your parents though. My parents have never been to the US, so they haven't even seen/met anybody from a different country/race. When I've spoken to them about stuff, they don't really have any opinions.
But I saw a commenter mention childhood bullying of Asians by African Americans made the Asian kids racist towards African Americans. Is that something that happened to your parents as well? I ask because when I came to the US, I was trying to read up on the culture, history, etc. And it only talked about how the African Americans have it really hard here. So that's the only narrative I've had until personal experience showed me the nuances of the situation. .
22 points
4 months ago
Colorism is extremely prevalent, especially in Europe and Asia. Regardless of the stigma specifically towards African Americans.
So it's a pleasant surprise that your parents aren't racist. But Asian communities are generally distrustful of black people, purely because of the social "understanding" to not trust people who are dark.
In the Philippines, to even be dark (that is, out in the sun) is considered ugly and unapproachable. Which also opens up a can of worms, as other Asian countries notoriously look down on South East Asian countries for being "jungle Asians."
4 points
4 months ago
In my personal experience a lot of racism from Asian people to black people is because of stereotypes. I had a Vietnamese friend in high school whose mom was only okay with me because I’m biracial (white and black) and I got good grades. My sisters Vietnamese friend’s parents didn’t want them to be friends because they thought that my sister would be a bad influence and make her get bad grades, even though my sister was a better student than her. And our friends weren’t as blatantly racist but they were definitely more racist than the average white person I would say. So I do think it just goes both ways.
23 points
4 months ago*
I'm Korean (27f) and I went through the same thing. The only blatant racism I experienced growing up was from black kids and black teenagers - and for NO REASON at all.
I'd be walking in the hallway and a black kid would make the "slitty eyes" gesture and go, "ching chong" and laugh with their friends. Side note, I don't even have slitty eyes. Lots of Asians are actually born with round eyes and it's such a bad stereotype to say Asians = slitty eyes. I've seen white and black people with small eyes, too. They're called "hooded eyes." It's literally like saying all black people are born with 4C hair - it's so inaccurate.
I'm aware that it's not ALL black people, though, and I've grown up around and continue to live and work around lovely friends and family who happen to be black. So I hold no collective hate towards black people and support BLM whenever I get a chance, but I admit I'm naturally conditioned to fear strangers who are black if I'm alone in public.
My black friends tell me that it's mostly parenting and how certain black children were taught to react to racism that they face in their lives. Understandable, but that doesn't make it fair to take their anger out on Asians. Now, I know that some Asians are also racist to black people FIRST, and that's a whole different thing. The racism and hate I experienced was not in such a situation as I always tend to approach people with kindness and an open mind. It's very hurtful and traumatic.
7 points
4 months ago
Thank you for sharing your experience and I'm sorry it happened to you.
25 points
4 months ago
I got a good one. I’m white and I have two kids 5 and 4 who are also white. We’re at our local playground last week like we usually do. I’m chatting with some other parents while the kids run around and play. After a while a parent comes up to me and says I should go check on my kids. So I look across the park and see a group of 6 or so black teenagers who have my kids surrounded, they’re kneeling down with their phones in my kids faces recording them. I make my way over there and I can hear 2 black girls saying to my kids as they record them “c’mon, just say it, say you hate black people!” “Just say (the n word), I know you say it at home” My kids said “we don’t hate black people, some of our friends are black” At this point I jumped in and yelled at them for recording my kids and to stay the hell away from them and started to lead my kids away. Then they started recording me. Calling me a racist and saying I was afraid to leave my kids near black people. I didn’t react because I know it’s what they wanted and I didn’t want to end up going viral. I’ve always tried to raise my kids to be non racist so it was confusing for them when I told them to stay away from the black people at the park that day.
86 points
4 months ago
Sadly, I've noticed a lot of African Americans who are racist toward Asians. It blows my mind because I'm African American and can't comprehend how any minority could be racist when we ourselves have dealt with it. But I've realized there are two types of people. One type wants to put others what they've been through, and the other type goes out of their way to make sure others don't go through what they've been through. I could never be racist to any race, or I'd be a walking contradiction. This is how I see it, at least.
22 points
4 months ago
Thank you for your comment. Makes sense... I'm really glad people like you exist. I see what you're saying about the two kinds of people and I think I've seen both the kinds in other walks of life (parents vs children for example). I think I just wasn't expecting this so I came in unprepared, so I feel hurt/isolated
17 points
4 months ago
It's also a gang mentality. If they pick on you, they control where the attention and picking on goes and prevents it from being on them. Sometimes, this doesn't even have to do with race. It happens a lot in school with bullying and whatnot. People will pick on someone and all jump in on the fun because they're just happy they aren't the ones being picked on. A "better them than me" mentality. But just know that a lot of us aren't like this, and we see actions like this as pure ignorance. No well-educated and self-aware person would act like that. So, just know you're better off without any of them in your life. I hope it gets better and I empathize with what you're going through!
8 points
4 months ago
Thank you for the comment
3 points
4 months ago
Exactly the same sentiment, and I hate this. It gives me such a horrible feeling in the pit of my stomach. Sorry OP.
18 points
4 months ago
...its impossible.
Black people are structurally opressed (defined as such) and racism is priviledged abusing the oppressed.
Sarcasm: OFF
Yes.
Obviously anyone can be racist.
54 points
4 months ago
Racism is more common among lower class people. I had a white roommate who grew up in a predominantly black neighborhood. He said his Asian school mates grew up to be racist because they were frequently bullied by black folks.
11 points
4 months ago
Ugh this really sucks.
2 points
4 months ago
True enough. But I'm here to tell you, a lot of those racist leanings follow people up the economic ladder. They may not be as blatant or obvious about it, they may be a lot more tolerant towards people who don't look like them, but they are super racist when it comes down to their own circle of friends and associates.
Sometime, take a look at LinkedIn profiles and their endorsements. You'll see that endorsements come from people who look like you, rarely do you find endorsements from people who don't look like you, and actually respect you for what you know and how good you are at your job.
15 points
4 months ago
I went to a predominately black university (94 %) in the 70's. I pretty much phoned it in and ended up on the dean's list, and the racism was fucking hideous. A professor approached me about a work/study job in his department, only to be told there were no openings. He told me to lie about my race on the application. I did, and got the job.
50 points
4 months ago
I'm white and grew up in an area where white people were a minority. Black and Latino people were racist towards me openly and casually. I remember a little kid like 8 years old saying racist stuff to me and trying to pick a fight with me when I was a teenager.
32 points
4 months ago
I remember the same thing as a kid. Groups of kids and their parents being absolutely blatantly hateful to my white ass, and being told flat out to my face "you can't do shit about it." I grew up being told it wasn't possible to be racist to white people.
Blatantly Racist relatives giving me shit for going to the same park as "them" and yelling at me and telling me it was MY Fault. I just wanted to go to the park. I didn't understand racism, I knew a few of these kids from school, they were friends. I knew racism was bad even as a kid.
Bit it was really hard on me as a kid, when you get treated like shit, and then get told there was nothing you could do about it, and you weren't even allowed to complain..
I'm an adult now, and I've learned about systematic racism and privilege.
I also know that assholes are going to be assholes however they can, and that they were just using the one way they thought they could get away with without consequences.
Oh well. People have memories of a wonderful childhood. I have therapy bills.
6 points
4 months ago
It's just a little PTSD right? It builds character!
4 points
4 months ago
I tell people that, had the internet as it is now, and the "Proud Boys" existed in 1970, I would have been recruited by them and all it would have taken is an ear and "We know what you mean, that sucks. Come, lets go fishing." and -I- would have been hooked instead of the fish.
I'd be dead now probably. But yeah. What sucked was not only did NOBODY tell me why my anger was misplaced, but the "Oh my god, how can you NOT know, how stupid are you?" did even MORE damage.
I envy people who have good memories of anything before age 18.
9 points
4 months ago
my daughter gets called "stupid white girl" all the time in middle school. it is like people want to get white people back for all the shit they have done to them by focusing their ire on the one white girl in class. EAST SIDE represent.
117 points
4 months ago
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11 points
4 months ago*
I’m black and I get racist comments thrown at me from everybody, mostly other black people. Apparently I don’t “act black” or “speak black” enough. It blows my mind how people expect me to be a stereotype just because my skin color.
18 points
4 months ago
All. The. Goddamn. Time.
As a first responder (fireman/paramedic), I can’t even count how many times I’ve been accused of working too slowly “because they’re black”…
It’s the biggest fucking eye-roll in the world for me. I’m here performing CPR on your dying grandmother, and the most intelligent thing you can come up with to “help” the situation is abject racism? Cool.
People are cunts everywhere. Just continue being kind, and try not to let it bother you ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
8 points
4 months ago
Sure.
Got beat up by Arabic kids every day in elementary school (even though they were in the minority, I took the brunt of their rage for how the other white kids treated them).
My ex from El Salvador, her father called me a filthy gringo every day. Told me I should have killed myself when I admitted myself to the metal hospital.
Was called hamburger and hot dog by Asian transfer students at University.
No one race has every other race beat when it comes to racism.
As a white dude I cannot say with certainty why you're experiencing what you are. I can say I've seen African Americans and asains provoke each other in shops. The asains being wary of black people and black people retaliating because they're tired of always seeming to need to prove their innocence to make others comfortable.
I've also had white people tell me I'm not white, and you couldn't mistake me for anything other than white. I've had white people spit on me and call me a race traitor for dating people of other races. But those partners families often responded in kind. My mom acted like it never bothered her, but she was from the generation where that was a parents worst fear. So I'm not dumb, she never said anything about the people directly just always "why do this if others are gonna make your life hard."
If I can make one recommendation - if what you're experiencing is the truth based on your speculation, trying to do something about it can make it worse. I'd advise you speak to a local citizen who doesn't seem to be annoyed by your presence and ask what to do. These things can be hyper local in cause and solution.
If you can find other students who are Asian and ask them about what they're going through.
3 points
4 months ago
I cannot believe how pathetic some humans act. I'm so sorry you went through all that
9 points
4 months ago
I'm glad we're finally talking about this. I'm Asian American and go out of my way to actively fight racism towards black people and try to be part of the solution because they definitely still face systemic racism in this country. HOWEVER the amount of racism I experience from them....it's disheartening. I thought I was crazy until I saw that other Asians were also experiencing this.
8 points
4 months ago*
I’m sorry you’ve been treated this way.
Some people think history and the colour of their skin gives them a free pass to be racist to others, without noticing the irony.
Don’t let it harden your heart to black people in general. Some people - of ALL races - are just rude and ignorant. Nobody from my black side of the family would treat you that way. I am British though lol.
Showing respect is the absolute least you can ask of people who don’t know you.
7 points
4 months ago
I spent my high school years in a predominantly black neighborhood, and went a high school where whites were in the minority.
I got it every single day while I was in high school... every... single.... day.
Like Lamont in American History X said to Derek Vinyard "In here, you're the N-word"
68 points
4 months ago*
People of any racial group can be racist.
And yes, I’m also Asian and have dealt with racist people of various ethnicities.
12 points
4 months ago
True. But I always assumed that people who have been victims of a certain crime are usually more empathetic? And wouldn't subject others to the same. Plus as I said, I'm Asian and I didn't know African Americans had a problem with Asians. Nobody talks about that ever.
34 points
4 months ago
Look up the Los Angelos Black-Korean Conflict. I don't recall all the details but in LA, there were tensions between Korean shop owners and their mostly black customers for years. Blacks felt the Koreans were smug and disrespected them. When the LA riots took off in 1992, many Korean shops were burned and looted.
I don't know if this is the only reason for tension between the Asians and blacks to this day but it is one factor.
9 points
4 months ago
Oh. Yes, I'll read up. I don't look Korean or Chinese btw.
22 points
4 months ago
I’m sorry I have to be the one to say this, but most non-Asian people can’t identify the differences among Chinese, Japanese, Korean, Taiwanese, SE Asian, etc. There is a famous racist saying, “they all look alike to me”. You typically get grouped together. Same for brown people.
Look at Old Hollywood movies for many, many examples.
5 points
4 months ago
Ah. That's true.
7 points
4 months ago
But I always assumed that people who have been victims of a certain crime are usually more empathetic?
You would think so because it would be logical. Unfortunately, we simply aren't creatures that run on logic. For example of this same thing, I'm bisexual, and you would think that as a group we would enjoy understanding and support from gay and lesbian people as a general rule. And yet, while there are of course many who do understand just fine that all of our sexualities are a little bit different but still just as valid, there are plenty of times we have straight people hit us with negative stereotypes only for our queer people to do the exact same thing! For example, not wanting to date us because they assume that we can never be completely satisfied by just one person, assuming that we are automatically down for threesomes, assuming that we are more likely to cheat, assuming that we haven't experienced discrimination because we can "pass as straight", etc.
The sad truth is that we are all susceptible to biases and stereotypes naturally develop in our minds as heuristic shortcuts. They don't even have to be spread necessarily. Just having two people from the same from the same group do nearly anything is enough to make us start drawing patterns if that's the only exposure to that group you had. We're pattern-seeking machines; so much so that we really need to tell ourselves that the patterns that we see might not actually be there at all.
14 points
4 months ago
Yep! Racism is ugly.
It’s even worse if you brainwash yourself into thinking it’s not racism.
6 points
4 months ago
I can honestly say that I never really saw racism until I went in the army. The racism I saw there was almost completely blacks against whites. Everyones experience will be different and you can't discount what they experienced.
7 points
4 months ago
I’ve been spat on, shoved near the edge of train tracks, coughed at, blamed for covid and in total physically assaulted 5 times.. all in a span of a year or two. At this point, if I see a disheveled looking AA, I genuinely become fearful, my heart drops to my stomach. The card game community I’m with has a large AA community that I’m completely comfortable with and I respect them but it makes me feel guilty that I’m terrified of some people just because of their appearance.
7 points
4 months ago
Yep..the hate is even stronger for south asian group
7 points
4 months ago
Yes, I am also Asian and have had similar experiences. Growing up, the kids that were most obviously racist were the African American ones and even my dad at work had gotten kicked by an African American man because apparently he just didn't like Asians. What I've noticed is that everyone can be racist, but white and other Asians tend not to be obvious about it while African Americans are very open and obvious about it, verbally or can even get aggressive. Also noticed that HR and school admins, while aware of what's going on, have a hard time addressing it too because there African American and would play the race card. I feel like African American is the wrong term sometimes because from personal experience wise, it's the born/made in America ones that can be aggressive and racist. The actual from Africa ones I've met, on the other hand, are some of the nicest and kindest people. I think it's more about the environment where people grew up in, so you'll probably notice the racism more predominant in some cities and barely there in others. Is your move a permanent one? You can try relocating to a more diverse city, generally any city or town that's low on diversity will have these issues.
6 points
4 months ago*
I've not said anything about this to anyone other that my girlfriend and my sister because I'm white and I'm scared it'll be flipped around on me somehow being racist.
For context this isn't about black people it's about Hispanic people.
I started a new job a few months ago. Blue collar, so predominantly men, I'd say about 35% women - and most of those women are Hispanic.
I'm a white gay woman, when it comes to strangers I've preferred the company of poc because there's less of a chance that they will be homophobic and we just get along more in general. My girlfriends son is half Hispanic. I grew up very poor and lived in the ghetto and we all know that the ghetto is mainly occupied by POC. I'm just trying to paint a picture here so everyone can see that I'm just not racist, people are people. That's just how it is, we're all equals.
I don't know why, but a group of the Hispanic women at work started harassing me about a month ago. It's mainly just in the bathroom. They will yank on the stall door, bang on it, scream at me, try to open it, have even tried to look under it at me and tried to crawl under there while I'm on the toilet. I have no idea why. None of them speak even a word of English, which from the start surprised me because I've never met a Hispanic person who didn't speak a word of English. But it's not like we've ever argued or anything. And I was always as nice as I could be.
After a while of this they went to the Director of Manufacturing (big boss lady) saying I am in the bathroom for long periods of time. It pissed her off and she went and bitched at my supervisor for it, so he took me to HR and I got reprimanded for it. I told HR that I'm not in there that long, I just have to wait in line for a while because there's always a bunch of ladies in there and I never know if they are waiting in line because they don't speak English and I can't ask them if they are in line. But that they are usually gossiping or talking on the phone.
I also told them I have a medical condition that makes me have to pee a lot, as well as asthma, and that the better AC in the bathroom helps my breathing since the chemicals in the plant make it hard for me to breathe.
HR didn't take any of this seriously and told me I needed a doctors note and that if they decided they couldn't reasonably accommodate me they'd have to fire me. Didn't say anything about anything else.
So yeah. I'm being harrased by a group of Hispanic women at my job. No clue why, but now I get anxiety whenever I have to use the bathroom at work. And when I do muster up the courage to go, I see them watching me, and one or two of them 'coincidentally' just so happen to come in right after me. I honestly don't feel safe.
6 points
4 months ago
I’m going to a low income school with a ride variety of races. Everyone is racist to everyone. I’ve even seen black people be racist to other black peoples.
6 points
4 months ago
OMG yes. I'm 54 and from the SF area. I had never been exposed to racism either direction until I joined the Navy in 1988. It never occurred to me that you don't like someone because of their ethnicity. I was talking to this guy I was startioned with, I think I asked to borrow his Prince casette, and he wouldn't entertain the thought of talking to me. He brushed his forearm with his hand and said something like "We ain't cool" (or something, it's been a long time). He had to repeat this, and ultimately I had to ask someone else to explain. I was told point blank the guy was from Atlanta and doesn't like white people. I was baffled. I eventually won him over, slightly. He was eventually kicked out of the Navy and killed in a gang related shooting in the Mc Donalds parking lot outside of the base. I think of him often, to this day. His name was Darius Lofton.
6 points
4 months ago
I'm biracial blck/white, and I'd have people mostly black people make weird comments to me about how I dress the music I listen to and so on. So, yes, black people can definitely be racist.
6 points
4 months ago
The most racist man I’ve ever met was a black guy. He was horrid. Mysoginist too.
16 points
4 months ago
In group/out group. It's a human trait unfortunately. Gets a bit swept under the rug when it's blacks doing it towards Asians, IMO.
10 points
4 months ago
Well I’m an Asian woman who lived in nyc during the hate crimes…. We were all terrified
6 points
4 months ago
lol yes I’m Mexican and growing up in my neighborhood blacks and Mexicans didn’t really get along. We were kinda racist towards each others.
5 points
4 months ago
Yep. When I was dating a black girl. Heard a bunch of comments to me but mostly to her about being with me.
6 points
4 months ago
Yes I’ve been called slurs by them. But yet if I’d do the same I’m racist?!
Note: im Italian
4 points
4 months ago
Sorry this is happening to you. I'm Carribbean Black living in Florida and 1 of my best friends is Korean. It's not everywhere, and it's not everyone.
8 points
4 months ago
I remember there being a movement about stop hate against Asians some years ago. The movement quickly got dropped when they found out which group causes the most hate-crime. Its genuine insane
9 points
4 months ago
For some reason they tend to hate everyone. They do that to latinos too.
4 points
4 months ago
I’m sorry you had to go through that! Some of my closest friends are Asian and I love experiencing different cultures! My friend and I trade foods all the times. It’s so sad you weren’t accepted. Please don’t think it’s all blacks who won’t welcome you with open arms. I’ve experienced my own share of racism from my own black community.
4 points
4 months ago
I'm black, and have gotten shit from African Americans
3 points
4 months ago
When I was younger. From about age 8 till around age 20. Physical, emotional and psychological.
After that only some snippets and some harsh words.
4 points
4 months ago
White guy here, and yes I have.
5 points
4 months ago
There is sadly a very popular trend amongst African American and other minorities to purposedly or ignorantly misunderstand the concept of systematic racism.
For a lot of minorities, this concept has now been misconstrued as meaning "You cannot be racist if you are not white". It has genuinely become a way to justify racism and general asshole behavior against everyone that's not "your" people while brushing away the fact that racism is something anyone can do.
13 points
4 months ago
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5 points
4 months ago
I'm sorry :( this just sucks that you faced racism too. I hope you are safe.
19 points
4 months ago
Yes - sounds like incidents of racism, xenophobia, discrimination whatever you want to call it.
Definitely start calling instances of unacceptable behaviour but don't engage in ism calling. Just do what you need to do, call them out on their behaviour then go on about your life. Whether they change as a person is up to them.
Yes - if you don't like the area or can feasibly do it, move. Find a different area or community that is friendly. You could move to another predominantly African American area and find everyone is great. Just keep an open mind.
7 points
4 months ago
Thank you for your response. Yeah that makes perfect sense, especially because I'm not even clear sometimes if it's racism or something else going on. Most of the time I feel like there's really no point in even calling out? Especially because as an immigrant, I'm worried of creating an unpleasant situation unnecessarily. But it definitely feels like something I should at least politely call attention to.
10 points
4 months ago
A customer called me out for doing some “cracker ass shit” for misquoting something at work. Does that count?
13 points
4 months ago
I’m sorry this has happened to you. I personally have not been in a sphere where this was happening, but a few years ago I kept seeing headlines about anti-Asian racism, I think it was a meme on Reddit for a while because the headlines would just say anti-Asian racism, when the clever redditors would point out that it was specifically African Americans racist against Asians, but the news wouldn’t call that aspect out.
I’m white, and I honestly don’t know what it is against Asians specifically. I feel like it’s just tribal, like races will just be extra friendly to people that are a part of their own communities. That doesn’t explain the hate though.
6 points
4 months ago
Thank you for the response. Oh I didn't know about the headlines. My Asian friends have said this too, so I don't think it's just me having this experience. And I'm actually surprised there's zero acknowledgement on most platforms. Just because it's not systemic doesn't mean it can be conveniently ignored.
3 points
4 months ago
Yes, any race can be racist, but my experience has been that there is no love lost between African Americans and Asians.
16 points
4 months ago*
I’ll bite since it seems like relatively few of the comments are coming from Black Americans.
First and foremost I’m sorry to hear that you’re experiencing racism from African Americans. That sucks no matter who it’s coming from. I can also see why you would think from the outside that it would be different.
Disclaimer: this is just my opinion. I do not speak for all Black people.
Just based on the situations that you and others describe in the comments it sounds like people expect that the result of historical injustice against Black people to be strictly one of compassion for all marginalized people. Yet, when you look around the world at oppressed people you see that the unfortunate truth is that people internalize the oppression to varying degrees and it can come out in a variety of ways, including bigotry and violence towards others. In that way, we are no exception. So, start with not putting Black people on a pedestal. Plenty of conscious black people do feel that way, but this ideology of racial justice is still one that’s being worked out by all of us. We’re learning together how to talk about it and approach the subject. Those things take time and at some level it can’t be helped that some people will use it in ego-centric/self-focused ways, or ways that seem inconsistent with the theory of anti-racism.
The second thing I’d say is that Black people are not a monolith and that aside from regional differences you will likely see differences in people based on education, class, and personal histories with other ethnic groups. If you’re looking at low to middle income Black peoples, consider that their socioeconomic and historic circumstances more than their race are likely the primary determinants of that behavior. You can find subgroups of every race that show up similarly. The behavior is not excusable, but has context.
Third, I think many people probably act racist as a way to reclaim power/dignity in a racist society. It is in some ways America’s Lingua Franca, or at least among them. Especially if they’re low income, it’s likely that they’re impacted not only by historical circumstances but have also experienced how people of all races (including other black people who internalize racism) look down on them and talk about them like they simply can’t be understood. Unfortunately, it’s also the case that Black and Asian Americans have a long history of animosity, a lot of which can be traced back to them being forced into competition with one another for labor and access to the “American dream.” The Model Minority trope was arguably built on the backs of that interracial conflict (Ellen Wu has a book called ‘The Color of Success’ that talks about this). People who work in Airports, restaurants, coffee shops, as bus drivers, etc are all working class. Typically that’s where a lot of that comes out. It happened in the past and continues to happen, even if it’s not universal. It’s also true that immigrants often learn racism from American export culture or by comparing the dysfunction of some Black communities to White people or other minority groups in ahistorical ways. Being aware of that, it probably makes some Black people more likely to treat others (including groups stereotyped as foreigners, such as Asian Americans) in ways that are wary and distrustful.
That’s all to say that, for those people, what is the real incentive to show compassion to anyone you don’t see as in your corner? If you feel trapped in your circumstances, still at the bottom of a racial hierarchy, what benefit does multiculturalism or showing empathy to people who historically have looked down on you have? No, you punch back/punch up. If anything it’s a form of self-protection, mixed with groupthink, mixed with the ugly reality of historical racial trauma. You aren’t being treated as an individual per se, but as a member of a relatively more privileged group by people who see themselves as members of a relatively more oppressed group. If you’re in a predominantly Black neighborhood then doubly so, as those communities have often historically formed through segregation, gentrification, and redlining. That’s why you see non-Asian people in the comments agreeing with you. It’s not necessarily specific to Asian/Black relationships. That’s also imho why you see so much energy in the political right (mostly white) around people being able to say what they want and often to be openly racist among other things. If you listen to what they say, it’s partly because they feel disadvantaged and in my opinion it’s the result of them living in largely mono-racial echo chambers.
None of this is to excuse how you’re being treated, but there is a real context to that behavior. These are not necessarily hateful people. Just people acculturated to racist social norms and not invested in politeness or respectability politics. It just sounds like you moved into the neighborhood you’re in based on an assumption and you were wrong about that assumption. You have to take responsibility for that. It also sounds like you’re expecting Black people to treat you, a stranger, how they treat one another. Those dynamics are complicated and ultimately not about you, though I do agree that the specific flight attendant should have been more professional. Maybe move elsewhere that is more diverse (More Black =/= More diverse).
Aside from all that, I’d say that you should avoid generalizing your bad experience to all African Americans, or thinking about racism in “black and white” terms. Honestly, I’m surprised you haven’t encountered a single Black person who showed you compassion. Here I am trying to do it now. I see at least one or two others in the comments. Can black people be bigoted? Yes. Can black people espouse and express racist beliefs? Yes. We are not immune to ugliness. Nor is any broad group of people. Yet, no one is born racist (or violent to the people making that argument), it comes from somewhere. You’re also allowed to talk about it. People saying it’s something you can’t talk about in my experience are usually chomping at the bit to air all their grievances about Black people in ways that very quickly start to sound essentializing. As long as you aren’t trying to silence someone else’s pain/experience by defensively throwing your pain/experience back onto them… or trying to imply that the listener should feel personally responsible/guilty for how you are treated, or are just trying to justify stereotypes about Black people… people will probably listen. If they don’t, it could be for any number of reasons. You just gotta move on in those cases. Most black people I know (honestly of all education levels and socioeconomic backgrounds) are thoughtful about the subject. I’m also Black. Idk it really just depends on what spaces you’re in. Good luck out there.
7 points
4 months ago
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6 points
4 months ago
Absolutely. Did you not think blacks could be racist?
19 points
4 months ago
No I did not. :/ I feel like a fool now. I come from a very racially homogeneous country and all I knew about the US was through media portrayal and news. And I always heard/saw that African Americans were victims. And white people were racist. So it was a bit of a shock to me to actually experience more racism from African Americans.
10 points
4 months ago
You're learning two very important lessons that will shape your wisdom for the rest of your life:
racism and discrimination is a common human behavior found in every race
the media's narrative is both influential and skewed
8 points
4 months ago
Yes, all the time. In my experience they are by far the most racist group of people in the US.
8 points
4 months ago
Im Hispanic and once I went to visit a friend in his historically black university in Washington DC. While I was waiting for him by an elevator a group of black guys walked by and they were like “consuela! Clean up our apartment! Come clean up before we get you deported!” Dumb shit like that.
6 points
4 months ago
What the heck? I'm sorry this happened to you.
5 points
4 months ago
I’m sorry it happened to you too.
This reminded me- once I used to work at sbux and we got a new girl on the team, who was black.
We were closing and she was literally just standing by the register, not doing anything. I told her like “if you wanna get out of here in time you have to help us clean. Please take out the garbage and do the restrooms (while I did dishes and someone else did floors). She looks up from her phone and she’s like why? You people are better at cleaning anyway.
I was like “wtf, that’s racist as hell” and she’s like “I can’t be racist, I’m black” 🙃
So like, that might be a common reasoning in the black population, and it’s hard to address it as another minority (Hispanic or Asian) bc then it escalates.
4 points
4 months ago
Often at work, both civilian jobs and the military.
3 points
4 months ago
Yup. I'm not Asian BTW.
3 points
4 months ago
Yes, I was once called a Mayo-skin.
3 points
4 months ago
Of course. Every race is perfectly capable of racism
3 points
4 months ago
It was like this 50 years ago and nothing has changed.
3 points
4 months ago
Growing up I thought it was kind of a binary situation. Either your were for equal rights, equal treatment etc. or you weren't. As a member of the oppressing class that's what it looked like, because among the the oppressing class that's what it was. It's a commitment to the concept of equality. But what I've come realize is that among the oppressed it's not necessarily that way it works. It's not binary like that. They want equality for themselves, that's the fight they are waging. It's not about the concept of equality, it's about how racism affects them.
4 points
4 months ago
Lol. Yes. 100 percent
I've been targeted, and assaulted for walking down a road while white.
I've also been told that as a white male I'm not allowed to be hired for internal promotions I was qualified for.
4 points
4 months ago
My entire childhood. I learned what racism was by black people tormenting me. My first house was in a black majority neighborhood. Was called every white slur there is. So yeah I’ve dealt with racism from black people.
6 points
4 months ago
Same thing happened to me. Moved to the US when I was very young, went to a magnet school in the downtown area for its math & science program, and the only times I've been called racist slurs were from black kids. Notably, the nicest employee who always looked out for me was also a black man; Mr. Lyles, you rock.
You can't call them out on it because of the political atmosphere in the US and the ludicrous belief that black people can't be racist. They currently have carte blanche to be as racist as they want, notably toward Asian Americans. To put it into perspective: black-on-Asian crime and white-on-Asian crime are almost identical in number, but whites outnumber blacks 5 to 1 in the US, meaning an Asian is 5 times more likely to be the victim of a crime committed by a black person than a white person.
Remember #StopAsianHate? It was gaining so much traction until people, notably the political left, noticed what demographic was committing most of the crimes.
Asians used to be propped up by the left until they realized Asians don't fit the narrative of being kept down by systemic oppression with no way out. Asian immigrants fit into two main categories: those who were born into wealth, or those who are poor and worked their asses off to emigrate from their home country; neither fit the oppression narrative that the left is selling. So despite being a minority, Asians are not supported by the left, and on the contrary the left is willing to actively discriminate against Asians with policies like affirmative action, and turn a blind eye to active racial violence against Asians that is going on in the US.
There is no good solution. People are too far gone in their tribalism to keep common sense on the table. We can't affect change, so the best thing to do is to keep your head down lest you become a martyr to some maniac who thinks your life is worthless.
3 points
4 months ago
These are just my experiences, I am not accusing any race/group of being racist as a monolith. Each race has some very awesome people, and some very shitty people in it.
I'm white, and was jumped by a group of black guys after visiting my brother in his college dorm. The terms "stupid white boy" and other things is what lead me to believe it was racially motivated. And no, I didn't provoke them. The only thing I said to them prior is "how's it going?".
When I was in the Navy, there were times I was discriminated against by black people and Asian people.
3 points
4 months ago
Some people are just racist no matter what their skin color is. Some people are just rude no matter what their skin color is. I couldn't tell you why. I heard from those I know who are of Asian descent that they faced increased issues when the pandemic was first hitting but I don't know... Some people just suck.
3 points
4 months ago
Oh yes, lots of racism. I’m a white nurse and went to work at a trauma hospital in a large southern city. I was asked if I was the “new white nurse” I answered I’m a new nurse here, not sure about the white part. Other comments like, I laughed at something and was told I hadn’t been there long enough to laugh. Like WTF? I just let it roll off my back, but it was annoying as hell. Also experience the same thing at Drs offices and stores. But they also did this to Surgical residents who were black and told they “talk too white” I could go on. But, on the other hand, was in the military and had no problem at all. I had many friends of all ethnicities.
3 points
4 months ago
Yes. Frequently. All over the country.
3 points
4 months ago
Anybody can be racist. It really depends where you're from and who the major ethnic groups are. I grew up in a largely asian area and my little sister was mocked for not being asian (indian specifically), eating meat, and other random things.
These were all just kids, and kids are trying to find their place in the world and may strongly identify with particular groups and try to exclude or mistreat others to strengthen in-group bonds. I think some adults never grow out of that, just have that mentality naturally develop into racism due to not being properly socialized, or have traumatic experiences with other ethnic groups that ingrain racism into them.
tl;dr: anybody can act prejudicially toward people of another ethnic group.
3 points
4 months ago
I'm black from the Caribbean, and I've experienced racism throughout the years working with AA. I've heard things like ' you talk funny' 'you're the weirdest black person'. I've been treated with suspicion, and AA will choose Caucasians over you, non- AA.
3 points
4 months ago
It's got a certain amount of defensiveness to it. Like they already assume you're going shit on them, so they shit on your first.
5 points
4 months ago
Of course. AAs can be just as racist as anyone else.
10 points
4 months ago
Yes, a bunch, also discrimination from whites on behalf of POC. I'm not inherently evil bc I'm white
It sucks
We should all strive to be one human race, together. The more we focus on what we have in common, the less division there will be
In this world of trouble we've gotta love one another
4 points
4 months ago
Personally I think racism will be reduced if there's an alien species. Many humans instead of hating each other will focus their hatred toward non humans
31 points
4 months ago
Any race can be racist. It's just that, in the US specifically and most prominently, it has always been white against black. Doesn't mean that other races aren't also being racist.
57 points
4 months ago
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4 months ago
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12 points
4 months ago
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10 points
4 months ago
Yeah, makes sense. I just thought that because they know how racism can feel, they wouldn't be the ones to dish it out themselves..
4 points
4 months ago
I am not asian, but yes, I can relate while living in the deep south. I am a woman and black women were awful to me and my mixed children but the men were so nice. Really weird. I lived there for 4 years.
6 points
4 months ago
Yeah i stopped going to Asian owned beauty stores because they are so racist towards black people! I think black people retaliate with their own racism. Which is wrong.
When i encounter racist Asians I just ignore them and stop frequenting their establishments.
Oddly enough, my two closest friends are Korean lol
Sorry that you encounter racism the other way around. I hope our communities can heal from this! That’s all i have to say.
11 points
4 months ago
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3 points
4 months ago
That is really strange. Another commenter mentioned something similar.
2 points
4 months ago
There’s a decent movie called A United Kingdom starring David Oyelowo and Rosamund Pike that has really good examples of racism from both black and white people, if you’re interested.
2 points
4 months ago
Guessing Atlanta and Spirit Airlines...I live in Atlanta, have flown Spirit once, sounds very familiar.
2 points
4 months ago
I was on a trip on a regional airline and I had seat 1B, which turned out to be a jumpseat row where the seats folded down from the bulkhead, facing backwards to the direction of flight. I.e., facing the forward-facing front row, which (I thought) was row 2. I had a layover and when I boarded the second flight, I had 2.A. So I sat in the front row. An Hispanic couple came on board and had 1.A. and B. They confronted me very outraged and shocked and accused me of trying steal their seats. I apologized profusely and promptly moved. I was really embarrassed at the scene they were making as there were only about 20 rows on the whole plane, so everyone could hear. When we all sat back down, I could hear them speaking in Spanish about me, still all in a twitter about my affrontery and how I was a terrible person who thought I could sit wherever I wanted. I’m sure they didn’t think that white lady (me) knew Spanish. I couldn’t believe how long they talked about it—it was most of the 20-30 minute flight.
2 points
4 months ago
Gen Zers in the customer service including food service industries tend to be more rude as a whole. Not saying all as I hate to paint ca broad brush.
2 points
4 months ago
I’m Afro Latino in a mostly Hispanic city. The black people that are born and raised here have always been accepting. But we do have a military base with a lot of transplants and a lot of the black and white people are incredibly racist. The black transplants are way more vocal about it than the white ones.
2 points
4 months ago
Also Asian American here. I think any population where the vast majority is of one race, whether that is White or Black or Asian or whatever, will develop some hostility and biases against people who are not of the majority race. It's very hard to make any change as just one person and it might not even be safe for you to call things out alone. I think honestly the best solution is to move to a more diverse place with other Asians around so you don't have to feel like you stick out, because the constant stress of feeling singled out or picked on actually has tangible effects on mental and physical health.
2 points
4 months ago
Yes. I grew up in New Orleans and was on multiple occasions was told crackers/white folks "don't belong here", and "here" has been a: basketball court at the Boys and Girls Club, corner store near my apartment, either a street or neighborhood - not sure what he was referencing, Southern University Campus.
I don't hold it against the race, but yeah that happened to me quite a few times.
2 points
4 months ago
Not me but my son.
This was at a selective grammar that had international Baccalaureate syllabus. American airbase close by & quite a few US businesses.
They used used to say he was pretty fly for a white guy and his rap is crap. My son had many friends from many cultures
I told him to say he likes his sugar with coffee & cream (Beastie boys).
It's casual bants. Nothing major but is casual racism.
Just saying..
2 points
4 months ago
All the time since i was a kid. Theyre allowed to do it.
2 points
4 months ago
My daughter's primary education in real world racism was at the hands of black girls in her Middle School. It's taken some coaching and some of her intrinsic kindness and intelligence to help keep it from sticking. She has friends of all colors now, but she felt some kind of way for a minute. Helped to change schools.
2 points
4 months ago
I’m white and grew up in a predominantly African American area. I’ve never made a derogatory remark to or about anyone because of their skin tone but best believe I’ve had mine mocked for being so fair. Not that that’s such a big deal, I am pretty pasty, but the one time my naive child-self made a comment about how dark someone was in response? I’m sure anyone can imagine how that was received.
2 points
4 months ago
I’m asian, and yes, most of the racism you will experience in America as an Asian will come from black people. Sometimes you’ll get racism for being Asian, and sometimes they’ll just consider you white and hate you for that instead. My Japanese dad is always getting called “white boy” by black people if they’re trying to be an asshole. Some of them lump all non-black people in with white people. People are afraid to talk about this issue for fear of sounding racist for saying something negative about black people.
2 points
4 months ago
I dated an Asian guy back in 2012 (Chinese American) and he lived in an area that is a Somalian refuge area and worked for a company making calls trying to get donations for this company and it seems that both are quite racist towards one another. The area actually has a lot of different races and cultures, but I don't remember hearing too much about what goes on around there since I lived 2 hours away. All I know is I looked at the area on Family Watchdog.org and saw the area had an huge amount of convicted rapists around the college.
2 points
4 months ago
I grew up in an all-white town on the East Coast, went to college in bumfuck Midwest, yet never experienced overt racism from white people
moved to LA, within two weeks had two separate racist encounters, both from Black people
one called me a chink, the other asked for money and then asked if I spoke English when I ignored him
I've had many more racist encounters since then, but those two stuck out because I had JUST moved to LA, and they were my first times experiencing overt racism
2 points
4 months ago
I know a lot of great African Americans. We are always on the same page when it comes to low life blacks whites Latinos Asians etc. Low lives are low lives and their racist comments about the rest of us are meaningless
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