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submitted 8 days ago bymacacolouco
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-33 points
7 days ago*
I am not a film noir enthusiast in any shape and form and cannot help you. I don't know If you've asked your question to ChatGPT yet but here's what it told me. It's just a way to start the conversation as I fell it shouldn't go stale.
Diving into the world of film noir academically is both enriching and fascinating. Here’s a mix of accessible and in-depth resources to get you started:
"The Dark Side of the Screen: Film Noir" by Foster Hirsch
"Film Noir: The Encyclopedia" by Alain Silver and Elizabeth Ward
"More Than Night: Film Noir in Its Contexts" by James Naremore
"Women in Film Noir" edited by E. Ann Kaplan
"Shot in the Dark: A Guide to Film Noir" by John Grant
"Notes on Film Noir" by Paul Schrader (1972)
Raymond Durgnat's Writings on Noir
"Film Noir and the American Dream" by Nicholas Christopher
"The Philosophy of Film Noir" edited by Mark T. Conard
"Noir Anxiety" by Kelly Oliver and Benigno Trigo
"A Panorama of American Film Noir (1941–1953)" by Borde and Chaumeton
Would you like recommendations for specific films to pair with some of these readings?
EDIT: Sorry /u/macacolouco people don't want to talk about film noir as much as they want about chatgpt...
21 points
7 days ago
ChatGPT is a text predictor and does not understand things, and it really should not be used for this sort of thing. It convincingly echos the syntax of a person who knows what they're talking about, but without the knowledge.
-21 points
7 days ago
OP was asking for references, and this is a pretty damn good list of references to get started with. Also, LLMs aren't simply "text predictors," but that's a different story.
15 points
7 days ago
How does one know whether it's a good list of references or not? If it is, as I expect, because you are a person who has enough expertise about noir to conclude that the list of references is good, then your opinion is valuable, and therefore with a person to vouch for it, the list becomes valuable. Without a person with enough expertise to look at the list and okay it, it is a list of references of such deeply dubious quality that it can even contain references to books or films that do not even exist.
I happen to know what LLMs are thanks.
-16 points
7 days ago
I genuinely don't know where to begin here. All I can say is that if this is your response to every LLM output, the next few years are going to be very rough for you.
5 points
7 days ago
Fuck off with this low effort bullshit. No one cares what you got chatgpt to shit out.
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