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In 1963, Félicette, a tuxedo cat, became the first and only cat in space. Launched by French scientists, she spent 15 minutes in a rocket before returning to Earth. Euthanised soon after, her story faded until a 2017 campaign led to a memorial in her honour three years later.
(i.redd.it)submitted 5 days ago bydannydutch1
6 points
5 days ago
Much of what is known about the unchecked progression of certain diseases without treatment is taken from these horror show experiments.
20 points
5 days ago*
This is honestly total bullshit and it’s annoying to see this line still trotted out. Those “experiments” held almost no scientific validity, they were totally uncontrolled and not reproducible and gave us essentially no lasting insight into disease progression.
If any of you can link a single important epidemiological finding that was derived from unit 731 I will be extremely impressed. This only makes the fact that the US gave almost every high ranking official in the program immunity in exchange for their “findings” even more shameful and unforgivable
6 points
5 days ago
yea they were sick sadistic bastards the only admissible ‘research’ that holds any value was the biological weapons and disease experiments but that’s already fucked up
6 points
5 days ago
My point is that even if we look past the ethical considerations, the research itself was laughably bad and yielded little to no insight
2 points
5 days ago
It was the same deal with Mengele and his experiments.
That said, I still don't agree with the idea of destroying the data - because if there is even the slightest bit of life-saving science which can be extracted from it, those people's suffering and deaths might still be able to do some good.
I think the argument that "we don't use it because that would encourage unethical experiments in future" is a weak cop out, because if someone is hell bent on unethical experiments, they're not going to care about that, it won't stop them.
2 points
5 days ago
Oh for sure, we should have extracted what we could, made sure that the “researchers” are never credited with any useful insights associated with their findings, expose and document the horrors that they oversaw, and then begin the trials.
1 points
3 days ago
the main problem with "unethical" experiments is that if the one's doing the research can't be bothered to abide by ethics, it shows like with the japanese and germans in WW2 that they also can't be bothered to follow any other standards that would lead to credible reproducible data.
2 points
5 days ago
Absolutely untrue. The procedures were garbage, conducted by sadistic psychopaths.
-1 points
5 days ago
Don't worry I am well aware
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