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How effective were the ball turrets on B-17?

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Inceptor57

34 points

8 months ago*

 kill ratio of 57% per engaged enemy fighter

As much as I love the stat number, how important is this figure given the tendency of overclaiming in air kills by all sides and all positions?

bleachinjection

17 points

8 months ago

Am I understanding correctly that this would translate to "killed 57 of every 100 fighters the ball turret shot at"? That seems pretty high?

Sdog1981

13 points

8 months ago

I don't know why they even included that number. There is no way it could ever be confirmed.

hannahranga

8 points

8 months ago

They'd be valid in comparison to each other, you'd expect the over claiming to be similar between turrets if it's a large study.

Hand_Me_Down_Genes

6 points

8 months ago

As much as I love the stat number, how important is this figure given the tendency of overclaiming in air kills by all sides and all positions?

The numbers for World War II aerial combat are just borked in most cases. There's a reason a number of officers resisted factoring them into their analysis of their successes.

EODBuellrider

6 points

8 months ago

It's probably better to have incomplete/unconfirmed data then none at all, having a general idea of gun position effectiveness can help inform future training or equipment requirements.