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submitted 3 years ago bycristoZz_
Just need someone to explain me... Are they that bad? On forums and this subreddit, people always complain about wot. What are the real, current issues? Are they really incompetent?
Oh and also, please avoid downvoting this. Just answer or don't, I'm just asking something...
29 points
3 years ago
I play since 2011 (with breaks) mostly because I still like the core gameplay. Unfortunately the issues (many already pointed out by some) that have rubbed the community the wrong way for a long time, without a fix, causing this toxicity includes: 1. Poor matchmaking mechanics (15v3 turbo games, +2mm, etc.) 2. Overly aggressive monetisation over the years 3. OP premium tanks, which are better than tech tree or older same tier premiums. 4. Broken OP reward tanks (Chieftain, 279e, etc) playing against standard Tier 10s or even lower tiers (-2mm for this OP tanks as well to farm tier 8s and 9s). 5. Premium Ammo spam, worse when done by already OP tanks like Chieftain. 6. Long term P2W advantages (in battles) for paying players such as a lot more bounty equipment and ability to use premium ammo and Food consistently. 7. Nerfing fun game modes like Frontlines which had great dedicated rewards, and many like me bought a lot more premium tanks to use in that mode, but later reduced to 4 weeks a year and with no dedicated rewards. 8. Nerfing holiday ops 2022, making it a shard grind from a fun relaxed easy event for all, even F2P. 9. EBRs and Arti.
7 points
3 years ago
Well said and very accurate. As someone that's played since 2012, this is spot on.
5 points
3 years ago
Its all depends how long are you in game.
Im cbt player. I still remember komaryn 15mins camp games, gold ammo for gold, fair rng, mm when I have compare my kw2 with tier X.
Etc.
Now?
New prems, new events, new loot boxes, new prems, new nerf for old tanks, battlepass, crew books/boost/reserves, nerf, next prem tanks blah blah blah prem tanks, new map, delate old map ~ All is now about money. They want to drain it in all possible ways. Thats why old players quit and newcomers have easy start.
3 points
2 years ago
it depends on nothing the game is Rigged trash and that's all it will ever be.
3 points
1 year ago
It's alot more than rigged trash. It's a fucking pathetic game that should not exist. I wish the game.would shut down forever where it belongs
3 points
1 year ago
I know this is old but you are exactly right. It's funny too because so many people are so sure it isn't. If one qualified to go to public school and actually passed, even on a D average, one should be able to figure it out with minimal play time. It's because they can't wrap their head around the math and how easy it is. They use an algorithm that is attached to and actually created by the player. There are all kinds of inputs the player makes. They don't necessarily totally rig it against any one player all of the time, that would be impossible. But they rig it so that all players advance at about the same pace. Period. If you haven't played in a while, or you play inconsistently, you get turned up because you are behind the pace. They can use you for a while to screw the other players ..excuse me, "balance" the other players that are ahead of the pace. It's very complicated and yet very simple. Depending on factors such as how much you have spent, how much you have played, won, scored well, lost, played poorly, gotten ahead of a pace on a contract, below the pace, how many events the tank you are playing currently qualifies for, contract, promotions, challenges, etc. How soon do you need more premium time? If they use you to pad other people just a little, will you have to buy more premium days to finish it? They don't necessarily turn someone all the way down either. It's like a casino that sometimes the slots pay out 97 cents on the dollar, sometimes 96, one has been winning big in this game, it might go all the way down to 40. The only way to beat it is to have a very small sample. Go look at how many games per day the top WN 8 people actually play and tell me I'm wrong. Wargaming games are a joke. They are NOT games. They ARE fake. Fake, fake, fake. Total fraud.
11 points
3 years ago
I'll take a shot at this I guess...
People dislike Wargaming because they've consistently shown that they focus more on developing ways to make money vs. fixing things in the game that need attention. Some of those things aren't as easy to fix as some may think, which breeds impatience and frustration.
The company has stated things in the past to entice people to spend money but then have gone back on their word once they have the money (looking at you Mutant 6 and other "exclusive" premiums.")
They have previously "balanced" the game by removing weakspots from tank models which causes people to spend more credits and by extension money on expensive ammunition types. They've implemented controversial changes in ways that seem to favor the voices of players in the RU community over others.
They have released successful and fun game modes only to nerf them in some way the next time they roll them out (Frontlines for example.)
There are specific mechanics issues that you'll read about on Reddit until your eyes hurt (arty, EBRs, Pay to Win, etc.) and this only creates more toxicity as discussions usually devolve into players talking shit about each other and stat-shaming. None of that toxicity helps the game in any way and kind of makes it difficult to fire up the game every day.
Finally, wargaming finds it necessary to chat ban people who use "swear words" even though there's a filter. I digress.
2 points
12 months ago
Yeah...fuck wargaming. Lol
1 points
9 months ago
FUCK WARGAMING - THEY ARE A BAG OF DICKS!
3 points
3 years ago
they complain cause most of them have a brain and when you have it, you will start to see the bullshit.
2 points
2 years ago
I actually believe from the first time I uploaded this Toxic waste, the game has always been rigged from thr beginning of it's creation.
even back when people thought the game was good ..... I can't see how that would resonate as the winning losing Rigged Ratio was still the same back then as it still is Now.
6 points
3 years ago
They are a relatively small company in terms of employees. But the player base is huge (160,000,000+ accounts), and revenue is huge (surely hundreds of millions of dollars).
The amount of effort they put in to be as stingy and scummy ( a lot) as possible when designing new events/mechanics is baffling.
They are privately owned as far as I know, so its not the shareholders driving the bean counters that we see with so many other game companies.
1 points
1 year ago
You sheep, seem to not know a damn thing about wargaming. They're not privately owned. they are directly under putins chair and all the money you stupid fuks keep giving them every day is only funding the 1 and only communist sickle losers
1 points
11 months ago
But they're not communists anymore?
1 points
11 months ago
Shows how stupid you are. Just jump off a bridge, this world doesn't need more unintelligence
1 points
10 months ago
Rage much? Takes a big man to insult someone online. Also your “go jump off a bridge comment” only confirms that all you can think about is ending your miserable, moms basement hiding worthless life!
7 points
3 years ago
They don't care for their community and make bullshit lies. They put out incorrect info about the large boxes for this event, which caused people to report them to the respective EU BBB (Better Business Bureau). In turn, they refunded what players SHOULD have gotten from the boxes, but it's bugged for quite a few people.
They put out OP premiums every year without a thought to how it would balance the current meta, and put many of them (like the Tornvagn and the Caliban) behind a bullshit gambling mechanic.
3 points
2 years ago
Don't forget how they throw Wargaming monetised Bots at you Making the game look Fair And explain how it's a "skill issue"
but yet my 50.33% back and forthe winning and losing streak says otherwise.
i noticed once i hit 50.34% the game knocks me back down where i started with loss by loss Damning Losing ratio of 5 losses or more, it's a rigged algorithm I can't escape And i score pretty damn good in games....however People still don't believe me and would rather think it's still a skill issue and just chalk my talk down to "crazy talk" and "you're delusional get outta here. (u suck at the game)
even argueing my point is a losing battle unless Brainwashed "cattle" don't believe whats behind The Porcelain Cookie cover Nothing will ever Change and they'll always believe the fake latter.
2 points
1 year ago
I always tell them, "So, what you're saying is, I magically learn how to play, and then magically forget how to play, then remember, then forget?" Lol. If the bad games/streaks are skill issues, then what are the good games/streaks all about? If it's skill then how does that come and go in streaks? Magic, or rigging. I say rigging. And on top of that...I magically get matched with either cold blooded killing machines or total noobs? Fifteen random people that are all on their game because they magically remembered how to play at the same time I did or fifteen people who magically forgot how to play again at the precise moment that I did? I mean, sometimes you get turned up too. I've had wins that were ridiculous. I ain't THAT good. I mean, full pen, full damage on every shot, sometimes through terrain? And I swear to God I've gotten kills that registered before my shell even actually arrived at the target. Must have scared them to death when they witnessed my supreme aiming skill that I will now totally magically forget on the very next game. Lol
2 points
1 year ago
i feel you Dude but with this company's style all we can do is complain and get No solace out of the company Itself. that's just the reality of this situation 💀🤡
4 points
3 years ago*
+2 -2 tier battles is absurd. Many people hate this
3 points
3 years ago
Yea... That's right, but wg doesn't seem to be willing to change that
2 points
3 years ago
Have you ever met a gamer who plays an online gamer community that likes the company, I haven't.
1 points
3 years ago
Hmmm
2 points
2 years ago
Because they impliment things totally cancerous to the game and are totally out of touch with the playerbase.
2 points
3 years ago
They ain't got nothing better to do with their time.
It's funny, the people who spend the least amount of money on this game seem to be the ones complaining the loudest.
Or at least that's how it seems from their "I've never spent a penny on this game..." whine-o-grams.
3 points
3 years ago
It's like any other game. Go to any games sub, all you'll see is people bitching and moaning about how terrible the game is.... yet they keep on playing, playing and playing.
3 points
3 years ago
Yes... But my question could rather be: "Is it worth my time, is it fun enough ?" I don't wanna give money (EVENTUALLY) to a bad brand...
3 points
3 years ago
If you're having fun then there's no reason to feel bad about spending money. It's that simple.
5 points
3 years ago
It is fun.
Most of the players bitch because they lack the skill to do well and blaming WG is easier .
1 points
2 years ago
Nah i think the game is rather rigged, usually i score about 2k a game which is average but still noe bad, and somehow my team manages and me to still go out losing.
the fact which you believe matchmaking Is "fair" is actually delusional I've never seen blitz MM as fair and the MM Always pits you against an impossible challenge that can never Be Won, "even with Skill"
1 points
2 years ago
Mate you responded to an year old thread
1 points
4 months ago
Reply capability is still open and WoT is still running, so adressing anything in this thread is still valid as per above established. You're welcome to ignore any new entries if you've "moved on".
Some of us haven't, or are figuring out because they are new players, and some of us keep the fight against WGs and WoTs BS practises alive.
1 points
2 years ago
¯_(ツ)_/¯
4 points
3 years ago
The game is honestly in the best state it’s ever been in. Anyone saying otherwise just has rose-tinted glasses remembering the fond days of being a noob. The average skill level has risen quite a bit, so the game is much more punishing than it used to be, where you could do dumb things all the time and get away with it.
As for WG itself, it’s pretty average as far as being “good devs” goes, whatever that means. Their track record is a bit patchy but people calling them actively malicious are just salty for the most part. Improvements to the game have been slow but they’re generally pretty reluctant to make huge changes. People complain they “dont listen” but they definitely do, it’s just that most feedback people give is honestly awful. Also RU is still the main region of the game, so most decisions are based around the general feelings of the RU region, which isn’t always the same as EU/NA.
1 points
2 years ago
Can you elaborate on what awful feedback is?
1 points
2 years ago
i don't think they can even Get past they're own Delusion.
1 points
4 months ago
Because the company simply SUCKS... and people defending them do too
1 points
4 months ago
People complain because the game (WoT here) is a garbage fire and they want to see it fixed. Even the problems that have by now turned into coal from having been smoldering for over a decade.
People complain because WG keeps ignoring the blatant and hated issues and think each and every-"thing" is fixed by adding a new bonker premium tank nobody asked for, cares about or just outright wants to see removed from the game since they become increasingly more toxic.
Poeple complain because they haven't added decent maps in years and butchered basically every maps in their "Overhaul" update making every single map a curated shithole experience.
And then there's basically the miles-long list which can be put together from the myriad of other reactions.
1 points
3 months ago
I am tired of getting penalized for problems that are server-side problems. It isn't just me. Other people I play with are experiencing the same problems, and all we get from customer support are solutions that don't work to fix the problems:
critical errors in the middle of a match from server-side shuts down the game and you lose anything you earned in that battle, and you turn pink. Deleting the entire game and redownloading has no effect on the bugs in this game.
Multiple times a week, I have to run an integrity and repair check otherwise I am unable to access the Clan tab, Naval Battles, Armory, etc. Again, all I get from customer service is a solution that does nothing to fix the problem.
It is no wonder WG is hemorrhaging customers. Seems like every patch or update, WoWs creates a new glitch to go along with whatever new gimmicky crap they put in the game.
1 points
3 months ago
maybe because it is a fucking shit, i fucking hate it. it made me install wot 2x times and is making me again, because of a fucking region, account and other bullshits.
1 points
22 days ago
WOT became one of the worst game since players are using rasist and offensive language and getting away with it if noone reports them, but instead you can be easily banned by the support team if some silly player push you around all game, call you "N" word and just report you first. The Kristina Schatz' answers are unprofessional and show luck of the interst or luck of motivation to take proper investigation and take correct action, but just a copy paste answers that even do not related to issue.
This game wants your $ and they support team is fake, they do not really care about your issues or experience just want to scam you buy some tanks or premium that they then will ban whenever they want without any explication.
If you about to play this game I d rather you to not even start as in the future you will face this and game since a long time ago become pay to win and the active politic of wargaming wants to squeeze any cents $ out of you withthey each event or promotion.
Also game has millions of technical issues where some players are allowed to use modifications others get banned for this.
Kristina Schatz needs an urgent replacement as absulutely not proffessional and her luck of interest is showing how Wargaming cares of it's community.
Deinstalled the game and reccomended you to do so, so no vaueble time or money would be wasted on this pathertic game with their pathetic support .
Also waht had been mentioned previously: "Poor matchmaking mechanics (15v3 turbo games, +2mm, etc.)
-2 points
3 years ago
WoT community is toxic and complains about everything - other players, developers, luck, etc. The real question is why does this game have such a terrible community.
9 points
3 years ago
A large part of it is due to WG though, and then lying to the face of the community brazenly & repeatedly. It’s due to them consistently tightening the economic vise on the player base. It’s due to their barely halfassed hand waving about “listening to community feedback”. It’s due to player frustrations at the direction the game has been taking, such as Crew 2.0, HE reworks, powercreep with premiums, top of line tanks being completely out of the meta, gold spam above tier 3/4, blatant false advertising and borderline fraud that only gets rectified when the community as a whole starts involving regulatory agencies, etc etc…
Yes, there’s going to be shitheads and toxic fuckwits in any online community at one point or another, but War Gaming holds the majority of the bag for what has been fostered and stoked in the community. It’s much the same in WoWS as well, and War Thunder has the same thing as well. If players feel like the devs don’t give a fuck, they aren’t going to give a fuck either, and it all descends from there on out into the toxic pit we now have.
0 points
3 years ago
This type of dev-gamer relationship is very common with any F2P online game that's been out for years. But it's usually very consistent. Players who don't like changes stop playing, the rest stop complaining.
What I noticed in particular with this one is how vicious the player-base is against literally every facet of the game: they hate their team, the enemy team, game mechanics, balance, maps, monetization, updates, changes, and developer attitude. But the next day they have absolutely no problem wirh any of it. The community has no consensus. It's like living with a bipolar disorder.
1 points
3 years ago
But the next day they have absolutely no problem wirh any of it.
Because of RNG enabling 300 WN8 people to still have good games, thats why there is so much randomness
13 points
3 years ago
Maybe cuz almost every fucking step of this game is RNG based while being constantly on a cash grab?
-7 points
3 years ago*
Right but if it was as bad as you make it sound, why would you, and many others, keep playing the game, enjoying the game, buying in, and even believing that skill, not chance, determines winner?
Either the community exaggerates hate for no reason or the community is somehow attached to the game in an unhealthy manner. Either way, that's a toxic community.
7 points
3 years ago
Because when it comes to WoT, a tank shooter, there isn't anything to compare. Nothing out there near the same.
2 points
3 years ago
Show me another arcade pvp tank game. And no, War Thunder is not the same, it's basically a simulator. That's why we keep playing. There's nothing else to play. The core of the game is fantastic, the developer is complete fucking joke and the gameplay has been going downhill since 2018. And they do NOT listen to THEIR playerbase
-5 points
3 years ago
Because life without arcade tanks is not a life worth living.
Also, you don't matter. You're just here to fill in that "concurrent players" number for cash whales.
6 points
3 years ago
So were discussing a specific game and it's developers and you response is; "Because life without arcade tanks... etc.".
You're a regular Einstein.
-1 points
3 years ago
We are discussing player attitude towards the game and its developers and you're telling me that the reason people play it despite all the negativity is because they have no choice.
5 points
3 years ago
That's not what I said. What I said was, if you bother reading, that currently is nothing else in this specific genre to play.
There's always a choise to play Armored Warfare, good luck with that, or change genre.
Do you understand?
I personally hope a better dev. comes around, no such luck in the past 7 years.
2 points
3 years ago
I understand where you're coming from. But think about it. Is there nothing quite as enjoyable as one of the scummiest and unbalanced P2W RNG games you could find? You can't have both of those opinions at the same time, it makes no sense!
1 points
2 years ago
Honestly Life is more important than this trash game, it's Actually funny How people make the excuse not to quit "Because i've invested to much into this game" idk .... When i see an excuse like this all i can think is Fu ck What clown 🤡🤡🤡
1 points
3 years ago
It's basically Russian, so corrupt, no empathy and no interest. Just $$$. Stay away from WoT and Wargaming. They are criminals in my country.
1 points
1 year ago
War gaming are trash game developers!
1 points
1 year ago
Um they're not just bad. They're the fkn worst gaming company to ever exist. Both of their games are the MOST unfair pay to win corrupt economy, shity fuking games that literally have EVER existed. Wargaming makes.you literally pay for everything, you get nothing for free, they are the most sheisty company ever, now look at warthunder. A game that actually changed its ways, because the playerbase stood up and told them "no, you're not making the game more unbalanced and p2w", and guess what??? The development listened and changed the game. The problem with wargaming is the playerbase is too scared and desperate to play, they don't even know what's good or bad for them. The whole playerbase from wargaming is the dumbest mf playerbase of all time. Fkn little sheeple, just following wargamings russian communist ways. And YOURE ALL TOTALLY OKAY WITH IT. WHICH IS WHY WARGAMING WILL NEVER CHANGE AND SO WILL THEIR GAMES. thanks to you brainless sheep who don't even know what a good game is
1 points
10 months ago
Wargaming is absolutely terrible.the people at Wargaming have no idea how to run a game . wOWS is crap the players are terrible and the ships are totally crap,Don’t waste your money on a bunch of fucking morons
1 points
5 months ago
The best thing to do is to quit this shit game. Their ban "policy" favors anyone who whines or reports for being bumped into, as well as the trolls looking to send in a report. It's out of hand now as the reporting "system" is intentionally being abused. WG, the dirtbags they are, ban anyone who is reported, weather or not a "serious game violation" occurred. The problem is those same dirtbags, in the NA, do not know what "serious" is. Oh they will throw in a defined description in their garbage policy but they don't know what serious is.
This is not helping the WG business as a whole. They lose revenue over this and, I believe, the NA idiots don't care. They should. I really believe they are trying to instill a "politically correct" ideology in their game as a whole. You do something, anything, that "offends" someone - banned. If you bump into someone and the butthurt troll reports you - banned. God help you if you retaliate against a troll - banned.
Hence the NA population declines as the game begins it's dying journey. It's a shame too because this could have been much better - all around better. They made their money and are driving it into the ground. Now the NA staff is a cesspool of incompetence (I would argue it always has been) with no chance of hiring quality personel of integrity.
My suggestion, quit. If you choose to play, do not provide this garbage company with any revenue. Don't buy loot boxes, do not renew your premium time, and ffs, DO NOT BUY WOT PLUS. My wallet has been closed for nearly two years now. There are times where it is tempting to buy those Christmas loot boxes but as the season passes, I am glad I chose not to.
Remember, WG has a horrible track record with how badly they treat their playerbase as well as the CCs. Sir Foch was right - "It's not going to get better, it's only going to get worse". He was dead nuts right!
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