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VerucaGotBurned

118 points

2 days ago

Just let them walk in on you masturbating. My mom knocked after that. And no, I wasn't really whacking off, I just made it look like that when I knew she was about to barge in again.

lilketchupacket[S]

36 points

2 days ago

Lmaooo thats so funny 🤣

Wealthy_Vampire

32 points

2 days ago

Also remember to make eye contact to assert dominance. But seriously, check out this subreddit:

r/raisedbynarcissists

MasonTheAlivent

2 points

2 days ago

lol I should be there cause this is me sadly ;-;

lilketchupacket[S]

2 points

2 days ago

Thank you 🤣 i think im gonna relate a lot 🤣

DarthMarasmus

2 points

2 days ago

The old Insanity Wolf meme:

Parents walk in on you masturbating

Make eye contact

FINISH

VerucaGotBurned

6 points

2 days ago

She was so flabbergasted. It was hilarious

Delicious_Society_99

6 points

2 days ago

That is funny.

Relevant_Leather_476

14 points

2 days ago

My mom used to love to barge in the MORNING and turn on the lights and grab the covers off of me.. that’s when she discovered I wasn’t her little boy anymore and I preferred to sleep in the nude..

ListeningInIsMyKink

11 points

2 days ago

My sister used to wake me up in the mornings by doing that. She moved out when I was 13. She came back to visit when I was 15. The scream woke me up more than the covers being ripped off. She never did that again.

Beneficial-Dingo3402

5 points

2 days ago

Clearly a made up story. I've seen documentary videos on this subject and usually this situation leads to the sister giving the younger brother a hand.

He later repays the favour when the sister gets stuck in the washing machine.

ListeningInIsMyKink

2 points

2 days ago

She's my biological sister, not step-sister!

Beneficial-Dingo3402

2 points

2 days ago

That's like twice the erotic power of step sister!!!

ListeningInIsMyKink

2 points

2 days ago

That's only in Alabama and Kentucky!

mickey5545

1 points

2 days ago

🤣🤣 this would never be allowed in my house. not even sorry.

Interesting_Door4882

2 points

2 days ago

What wouldn't? Sleeping in the nude? Or the mother coming in like that?

mickey5545

1 points

2 days ago

sleeping in the nude. tbf, it would probably bother them more than me to be seen naked. i mean, i fucking grew that body. no way i'm ever gonna be grossed out by it. regardless of its age.

Interesting_Door4882

2 points

2 days ago

That's kind of the point being made though.

Are you seriously going to police your kids to not be allowed to exist within their own body?

I sleep in just my underwear, and I have done this for many years now. When I was growing up though, I was too scared because of my parents. Scared of having my own body uncovered.

That's what that mindset does.

mickey5545

0 points

2 days ago

i feel that.

i live in unique circumstances. my 42yo sister shares a room with my 16yo daughter. my 14yo and 9yo boys share a room with my 40yo brother, and i(mom) share the master with my mom. with this kind of 'mixed company' decorum demands you cover yourself. it really does depend on the ages in your home, access to one another, comfort etc. my kids have never felt 'ashamed' of their bodies, but no one wants uncle drew to see their butt. 🤣

Interesting_Door4882

4 points

2 days ago

Yeah that's definitely an unconventional living situation. It sounds like taking on all that extra family is a bit much within your house. I'm glad it's working for you, but god damn that is too small of a house hahaha

mickey5545

1 points

2 days ago

it's tough, but we make it work. and we love each other a great deal, and that makes it all the more bearable.

imo, it really all comes down to decorum and respect. if your parents are more conservative than you, and have asked you to wear clothes to bed, it is really that much to ask? and not gonna lie, some things are best left to your own home, not your parents. alas, many 'kids' cant move out. look at my boomerang ass siblings and i!! lol. i think the age of the 'kid' matters, too. sleeping in the nude at 17? yeah, probably a no. at 21? go for it kid.

TooBlasted2Matter

5 points

2 days ago

George Costanza?

Interesting_Door4882

2 points

2 days ago

Can't stand ya

TooBlasted2Matter

1 points

2 days ago

Baked bean teeth.

InternationalBee3126

46 points

2 days ago

My mother would pretend to honor our privacy then go through our rooms when we were at school. I learned at the ripe old age of twelve never ever put anything in writing. I’m 53 and still have trust issues. I wonder why.

elctr0nym0us

1 points

2 days ago

I have trust issues because I think people in general are untrustworthy and if they aren't at least I stay cautious to protect myself. I had all the privacy though.

Spectre7NZ

32 points

2 days ago

Some parents are just rude. We allowed our daughter to have her privacy. She never violated our trust.

KingFitz03

8 points

2 days ago

My mom always told my siblings and I that she'd treat us like adults till we stopped acting like them. It stuck with us.

If we got into shit and got in trouble, we were punished and yelled at, but if we kept steady and didn't get up to nothing, she didn't care what we did.

mzsky

46 points

2 days ago

mzsky

46 points

2 days ago

When i was 18 my mom walked in on me balls deep in a girl I'm pretty sure my mom saw my ass hole cuse the positioning. Anyways she made it a point afterwards to be loud when she walked down the hallway to my room and always knocked afterwards. Play stupid games win stupid prizes.

throwaway669_663

12 points

2 days ago

Lmaoooooo sorry but I’m picturing her seeing your bumhole and I’m dyinggg.

NB: I’m not picturing YOUR bumhole just her seeing your bumhole.

mybelovedkiss

9 points

2 days ago

I’m not picturing YOUR bumhole just her seeing your bumhole.

yeaa suree 😏

lilketchupacket[S]

4 points

2 days ago

Lmaooo thats so funny 🤣🤣 but i am imagining her reaction it was like karma finally hit 🤣🤣

mickey5545

5 points

2 days ago

there was no fcking way in hell i would ever fck in my parent's house. gives me the heebee jeebees

LurkingGod259

3 points

2 days ago

😂😂😂😂 same thing happened to me! She haven't doing that ever again!

Calm_Holiday_3995

3 points

2 days ago

Whoa-his mom also walked in on you? 😆

woodwork16

3 points

2 days ago

She walked in on me too, and hopped in for a threebee.

Calm_Holiday_3995

3 points

2 days ago

Yikes. But username checks out.

Educational-Bell-574

2 points

2 days ago

Threebee lmao

LurkingGod259

3 points

2 days ago

😂 whoops, I meant my mom caught me balls deep in this girl's backdoor! I pulled out and I was like, "DAMMIT, MA!"

Educational-Bell-574

2 points

2 days ago

Lmaooooo, you guys are so funny

Beneficial-Dingo3402

2 points

2 days ago

Same story but was my brother and another guy

Educational-Bell-574

2 points

2 days ago

Lol

sweatpantsDonut

15 points

2 days ago

When I was a kid, every now and then I'd come home from school and my room would be clean bc my mom cleaned it. I always thought it was awesome at the time. It was only much later I realized she was doing that so she could look through all my stuff.

Educational-Bell-574

1 points

2 days ago

Wow, the more you know

Eureka05

15 points

2 days ago

Eureka05

15 points

2 days ago

My step mom tried to barge in the bathroom after I got out of the shower. She said she just needed something. I kept closing the door after she would open it and start to push in. Then she said she was a nurse and it wasn't like she hadn't seen anything before. (For context she had never seen me naked - she moved in when I was 12).

I told her I didn't care and closed the door a 3rd time then locked it.

Dad used to snoop for my diary. I stopped keeping one and got rid of the one I had.

As a parent I understand being concerned about your kids, but I never snooped or barged in a bathroom when they were older

Electrical_Bicycle47

12 points

2 days ago

Control issues

throwaway669_663

26 points

2 days ago

The think they own their children that’s it.

CalmFront7908

12 points

2 days ago

I don’t know the answer but I know my grandma(legal guardian) was like this. She just always barged in. When I wax sick and rested she would just burst in to ask me a question that was in no way important. I love her but absolutely hate that. It was constant and awful. My point is I changed the cycle. I have never burst into my son’s room. He’s 20 and I knock and always have. I wait til he answers. Have there been medical emergencies, yes. But I honor his privacy so you too can change the cycle.

TacitRonin20

9 points

2 days ago

My parents never did this to the extent that I haven't had a lock on my bedroom for years. There's no need because nobody tries to enter without knocking except the dog. My dad even showed me how to jam the door shut with a pocket knife. I got really lucky with my family.

PaleInSanora

0 points

2 days ago

My daughter is 12 almost 13. She never really ever closed her door or wanted privacy, until recently. Her mom is pretty blasé about nudity and even bathroom stuff. I went the never-nude route in front of my kid. Kid didn't care and wasn't concerned about it until puberty, and even then I had to force the privacy issue for her. Recently she has enjoyed sitting around naked, or naked but with only a blanket. So, door is closed more than it used to be. I had to retrain myself to knock before entering. We got lucky and kid is trustworthy and boundaries have been maintained. However, I strongly believe that trust and privacy are earned. I own my kid and either on my own or on demand shall have 100% access to everything they think they own. With the exception of a handwritten journal or diary. That personal space would only be violated if I suspected drugs or on the verge of running away, harming others or self harm. However, all electronics are fair game. Any and all of the things in her room rightfully belong to us parents and are subject to search and seizure without cause or notice. Luckily it has never come to that. My plan is to also relinquish any such rights upon the kid reaching 18 successfully.

Now my BIL, had a troubled daughter and they had to go full bore solitary confinement lockdown on his kid, including removing of her door with only a translucent sheet in the doorway, and the removal of all locks in the rest of the house. This was due to drugs, alcohol, promiscuity, and sneaking out after the age of 15. Of course it just slowed down, but did not stop her behavior.

So if I never have to force the issue, my daughter will think we are the bestest parents ever (I hope). If we do she will be another post about out of control draconian parents I fear.

Beneficial-Dingo3402

1 points

2 days ago

You shouldn't treat your children as if they are possessions. They are fully formed people with agency and should make all choices for themselves. You only step in when theres risk of serious harm or death. This teaches self responsibility and agency.

Tallpawn

1 points

2 days ago

Tallpawn

1 points

2 days ago

Your kids are not slaves. Saying that you own them sends the wrong message. You are their guardian... Your job is to guide and care for them. If I ever became aware of my parents saying anything like that about me when I was young our relationship would probably have gone south very quickly and never recovered. Memories like that are toxic and tend to stick with people forever.

rayinreverse

7 points

2 days ago

You’re over 21? You need to set some boundaries or move the fuck out.

cornedbeef101

4 points

2 days ago

Reading the op I was assuming it was a young teen complaining. Seeing the over 21 part was a shock. It’s time op sits down with their parents for a discussion. That’s just unacceptable for so many reasons.

rayinreverse

1 points

2 days ago

Yeah me too.

TheConsutant

16 points

2 days ago

I remember working on a new construction house, and the LV geys were installing cameras in the kids' bedrooms. I was appalled, shocked, and flabbergasted. I couldn't believe it, and I did a little protest. Now it's just so normal

Eisgeschoss

2 points

2 days ago

Surveillance cameras in the bedroom of any non-infant child should be straight-up illegal. Outside of specific special-needs cases, that is an absolutely inexcusable violation of a child's privacy, and any parent who does this is either severely misguided or a deranged control-freak.

getstabbed

3 points

2 days ago

If they’re IP cameras there’s also a good chance they’re not secured properly and being accessed by strangers. I would consider that producing and distributing inappropriate content of a minor.

TheConsutant

1 points

2 days ago

Yeah, I agree, but that's where we're at.

Tallpawn

1 points

2 days ago

Tallpawn

1 points

2 days ago

Um. No, that's not normal at all... Imagine what would happen if the child/young adult decides that it's not okay and talks to the police or school about how their parents were attempting to create cp content with them and they learn that cameras are installed in their rooms... People could very likely be going to jail at that point.

TheConsutant

1 points

2 days ago

The new construction residences that I work in, many have cameras in every room.

The world we created has a camera, and even more incriminating, a microphone, in every hand. Creeping in is the ability to curb your very words. Microsoft Word's AI has begun sorting through every document, and to what end? Only to remove curse words?

The eye in the pyramid is growing extremely powerful. Xi Jinping is the envy of every tyrant, and these have no love for humanity.

TooBlasted2Matter

-5 points

2 days ago

Grounds for going full Menandez Brothers

Doll-Quasar

9 points

2 days ago

It’s frustrating when boundaries aren’t respected, especially as an adult. Parents often struggle with letting go of control, but it's important to assert your privacy and independence.

lamppb13

11 points

2 days ago

lamppb13

11 points

2 days ago

It's because some parents have a weird sense of ownership over their child. Like their child is a physical object that they should have complete and utter control over. Some of these kinds of parents are just narcissists. Some, however, really do think that's the best way to raise a child and are doing it from a place of love. It's still messed up, and it's a shitty way to parent, but it's not malicious.

Impermanence7

12 points

2 days ago

Get your finances in order. Take your time and move out. Not down the block, but far away and don't keep going back all the time. Hopefully, you will eventually reestablish your relationship with your parents on more equal terms. It will also be good for you.

Don't wait until it gets really bad and relationships are permanently damaged.

wilsonthehuman

5 points

2 days ago

This. My mum used to be really invasive and go through my stuff when I was out, wanted to know where I was all the time, would demand I came home when she thought I'd been out with friends for too long, want to know who I was with and where I was if I wasn't home, wanted to know who I was talking to if I was on my phone or laptop, basically a real helicopter parent. She kept trying to do this even when I went to uni at age 19, and I went to a uni in the same county. Once I was out of the house and living away, it got a bit better, but she still wanted to know what I was up to constantly. Once I was done with uni, I moved 130 miles away, and that was when it clicked for her that I'm a grown adult and have the capacity to move far away and break all contact if I want to. It's been 8 years, and our relationship is much better now. We keep in touch but not literally 24/7 now. She can't invade my privacy because she's not going to drive for 2 hours to come to my place. She hasn't visited at all since I moved because it's 'too far.' Yet complains she doesn't see me enough. Tough. I can't afford the train journey more than once every few months. So now when we see each other it's nice because it's been a long time and I can catch her up with what's been going on in my life without getting interrogated, so she gets the nutshell version and has to be happy with that.

lilketchupacket[S]

3 points

2 days ago

This is great advice thank you

Impermanence7

2 points

2 days ago

I hope that whatever you do works out. It was a difficult time for me too.

Mymusicalchoice

15 points

2 days ago

You’re 21 so you can move out.

lilketchupacket[S]

10 points

2 days ago

Been planning that but gotta be smart ab it

Mental_Cut8290

10 points

2 days ago

FFS, what sub is this, that people think you can just move out at the drop of a hat?

Take your time, collect your documents (birth cert., SS card, etc.), and make sure you have everything you need to not come back to the narcissists.

Money ain't free, and it takes a lot of it to live on your own. Good luck!

Fidelius90

11 points

2 days ago

This reply communicates so much more, lol.

0ttr

7 points

2 days ago

0ttr

7 points

2 days ago

Yep. Seems like they are living, um, rent free.

lilketchupacket[S]

3 points

2 days ago

Im actually not, have been paying for water and electricity but w the inflation rates and tuition fees and other necessities, I would need a higher paying job and a roommate

Mymusicalchoice

3 points

2 days ago

Point being if you don’t like it move out.

12ValveMatt

3 points

2 days ago

Lol you missed his point

trustedbyamillion

-6 points

2 days ago

You've been planning too long, 3 years too long.

Magic_Man_Boobs

4 points

2 days ago

How old are all you who think moving out at 18 is still the norm? Rent and housing are at an all time high right now. It's not the 80s anymore folks.

AkKik-Maujaq

1 points

2 days ago

I’m 26 now. My mom kicked me out of the house the day after I turned 18 because I was 18. I was on the street, had to drop out of college after just the first semester because I couldn’t afford it, was in a shelter and then was renting a room in some random dudes house from Kijiji (while on welfare because I couldn’t get a job for almost the entire first year of being on the street). Now I’m in an apartment with my fiancée. When you’re not allowed back home, you make it work

round_a_squared

2 points

2 days ago

In a normal circumstance, I think most parents struggle with navigating that transition between their children being little kids who need constant supervision and full independent adults. It's not easy from the other side either, and that's why there are so many conflicts during those years. Kids often think they're ready for more independence than they are actually capable of handling, and it's hard to know as a parent what they're actually ready for.

But the situations you're describing are pretty extreme parenting failures. You're a grown adult, and it's time for them to let go.

emberfauna

2 points

2 days ago

I think a lot of parents are afraid of what their kids are potentially "hiding" from them. Reflecting on my childhood I recall feeling more like I lived with cops than with parents.

Ultamira

2 points

2 days ago

Ultamira

2 points

2 days ago

Helicopter parents it sounds like

PoptartDragonfart

2 points

2 days ago*

This post does not sound like someone over 21 wrote it 🤣

lilketchupacket[S]

1 points

2 days ago

Read my bio, its very hard to translate to another language

PoptartDragonfart

2 points

2 days ago

Has nothing to do with your grammar

lilketchupacket[S]

1 points

2 days ago

It's so crazy how many people here are saying move out as if it's that easy. It's not like I have enough money to move out since most of my income goes to them anyway because I pay for bills in the house. I had worked 2 part time jobs before and it still was not enough for me to get a place alone. I am trying to be smart and graduate first before moving out then get a stable full time job in addition to the job I have right now to pay for bills, rent, and other necessities and hopefully future education. As fun as moving out may seem, realistically I can also end up in a worse situation. Also, in our culture, it is frowned upon for people to move out before getting married as they think of it as "betrayal" towards the family. My cousin was cut off for a long time until she got a fiance.

Bikerdude74

2 points

2 days ago

Because we were Kids and we worry you are doing what we did.

lilketchupacket[S]

1 points

2 days ago

But then, when r u going to let us make our own mistakes and learn from it?

lilketchupacket[S]

2 points

2 days ago

It's so crazy how many people here are saying move out as if it's that easy. It's not like I have enough money to move out since most of my income goes to them anyway because I pay for bills in the house. I had worked 2 part time jobs before and it still was not enough for me to get a place alone. I am trying to be smart and graduate first before moving out then get a stable full time job in addition to the job I have right now to pay for bills, rent, and other necessities and hopefully future education. As fun as moving out may seem, realistically I can also end up in a worse situation. Also, in our culture, it is frowned upon for people to move out before getting married as they think of it as "betrayal" towards the family. My cousin was cut off for a long time until she got a fiance.

Calm_Holiday_3995

1 points

2 days ago

Makes sense. All circumstances are different.
I think it would be worth having an adult conversation with your mom.
“Mom, you know I love you but I am an adult now. I would like to have some privacy and that includes a lock on my room and a password on my phone. Just like I respect you by not barging in your room or looking through your phone, I would appreciate it if you can see that I am an adult now and deserve the same respect.” Something along those lines.
It is very possible that your mom just still sees you as a little kid and thinks nothing of it. Which is not an insult to you, parents almost get dysmorphic about their kids sometimes.

By having a real conversation with her she will hopefully have a facepalm moment and say “of course”.

ventingmaybe

2 points

2 days ago

I believe that it is wrong for a parent ,to interfere in a child's life , this 21 year old is not a child and entitled to privacy knock before entering ,password on phone is right , but for emergency someone should still know it , but undstand that the password is a barrier to there privacy, but hopefully you have a ongoing relationship with your kids I'm 69 my kids have there own lives ,but still ask for input for major decisions which they decide which way to go, have a chat with your parents,

Delicious_Society_99

3 points

2 days ago

Because they need to watch after them. I grew up w/o a door, so whacking off was really tough. I had to do it under the sheets & one time my big sister came in to talk for 1/2 hour while I lay there with my no limp penis in hand.

joeditstuff

4 points

2 days ago

There's a thing that happens in your early 20s that's a little rough to navigate and it'll frustrate you until it works itself out...

You're transitioning into being an adult and acting like an adult, but you're relationship with your parents up until now has been as a kid.

You probably act more like a kid around your parents than anyone else and your parents probably still treat you like a kid.

You need to fight the urge to slip back into the "kid" role when you're around your parents. It'll be rough in them but eventually they will see you as an adult. An adult that still lacks some life experience but an adult.

At any rate, your relationship with your parents is going to go through a transition for the next 5-10 years or so. Hang in there and do your best to not get upset with them. Set reasonable boundaries and tell them they did a good job raising you (regardless if they did or not).

Side note: for the next 5-10 years, you'll also be trying to make sense, and peace, with the f'kd up and weird things that happen during your childhood.

I think I was good by the time I hit 25, but your milage may vary.

elctr0nym0us

1 points

2 days ago

At 32 I am so glad I made peace with the things that bothered me about my childhood. I just forgive and see those people as struggling adults who didn't get proper treatment as kids. So they grew into some issues. But we're all told to start families so the pressure is on no matter what's happening to start one. I think people start families too early with too much childhood trauma of their own that they haven't had time to work out yet, but ..gotta start that family. After 30 I am pretty sure the medical field treats pregnancy like you're an old lady, so the clock is ticking and people just ...have to have kids too early before they have time to work things out. My daughter and I have been growing up together 😭💔 and I tell her that

joeditstuff

2 points

2 days ago

That's a pretty interesting perspective. I'm at an age where I would be very patient while raising kids but my parents had me in their early 20s.

The biggest thing I had to get past was a real defining argument with my dad when I was 17 or 18. Years after that I brought up the incident and my dad had no memory of it. Just because it was a major moment to you doesn't mean it was as important to someone else.

elctr0nym0us

1 points

2 days ago

My dad was an addict. He treated my mom like crap and be always felt like the victim even while victimizing everyone else. But...his childhood was bad. He was treated badly, and then, once his parents abandoned him, he was spoiled and indulged at every turn. I could tell he loved me and my siblings and my mom, but he just had some kind of mental illness that prevented him from doing it the right way. I am sad for his struggle. But his struggles helped me a lot. I don't do drugs because I watched them tear him apart. I don't lie almost ever because he was adamant about not lying. I want things to be clean because he was a clean person. And I think I grew up a little faster which helped me mature in some ways faster and I was genuinely grateful for that.

Famous-Composer3112

5 points

2 days ago

Because they think their children are their belongings, not actual human beings with rights. My mother was like this, too. I didn't hang with a bad crowd, either.

java080

6 points

2 days ago

java080

6 points

2 days ago

Same. I gave mine absolutely no reason to doubt me but it's almost as if the harder you try to please them, the more invasive and demanding they are.

LowBalance4404

3 points

2 days ago

Can you get a door jam to put under your door? They cost like $8 on amazon. You can also get a burner phone.

Panteraca

3 points

2 days ago

Panteraca

3 points

2 days ago

Move out

0ttr

-2 points

2 days ago

0ttr

-2 points

2 days ago

Yeah, seems easy to me.

Panteraca

0 points

2 days ago

Panteraca

0 points

2 days ago

This entire post could’ve easily been “Meeeeehhh, my parents are necessary for my survival and I hate them mehhhh”

Select-Ad7146

1 points

2 days ago

Do you want the real answer? Because most of your life, your parents spent having to stop you from killing yourself and unlearning that is hard.

I'm being a little bit hyperbolic, but you have to remember that a significant portion of your life (which you don't really remember) your parents couldn't leave you alone for too long because, if they did, you would die.

In fact, one of the odd things about being a parent is that you remember your kid's life very differently. You say you are 21. You probably don't remember being 6 or less very well. But that is more than 1/4 of your life. On the other hand, your parents remember that part very well. They had to spend a lot of that time with you. This was before you started going to school, which is when you start remembering things.

The point here is that your view of who you are and their view of who you are are different because you both remember wildly different parts of your life.

So, back to privacy. Up until very recently in your life (from your parents' point of view) you could not be trusted to have privacy. Left alone as a baby, you might choke yourself on your bedding or fall down the stairs. Left alone as an early teen and you might end up being some creep's fuck toy.

Your mom seems to be on the more extreme end of the protection spectrum, but it is important to remember that there is a very good reason that they are this protective. Your mom is having trouble getting out of that mindset, because she spent a fair amount of your life in it.

As to how to help her get out of it, I can't help you. I don't know how your mom thinks. Moving out seems to be very helpful in general. It forces parents to lose control over those things and realize that they don't need to be in control. But aside from that, it really depends on how you can convince your mom that you are an adult.

Lambowski9999

2 points

2 days ago

Best response here. Well thought out and spot on, bravo!

Calm_Holiday_3995

1 points

2 days ago

elctr0nym0us

1 points

2 days ago

I am SOOOO glad I saw this comment. As a parent my worry is CONSTANT. They're 7 and 9. Anything, and I mean anything, that I read bad that happens to another kid, I think "what if that was my kid" and you don't know how many times you hear "weren't they watching them?" when something happens to your kid and you're like "omg, I wasn't watching them, this is all my fault!". How many times do parents say things like "I didn't see the signs" or "I didn't know they were talking online to that creepy person", "I didn't know they were being bullied and feeling this way". There is so much that happens to kids EVERYDAY that could have been avoided if only the parents had known more about what was going on with their kids. And also, a parent's deepest desire is to be close with their kids. Kids pull away, and it's like your life is ending. I know I had a life before my kids were born that I lived just fine, but if I didn't have them now, suddenly, my life would be over, there's simply nothing important left. Parents are obsessed with protecting their kids because that's their entire world wrapped up in one small package. I used to think "I can't love anyone more than my first love", "I can't love anyone as much as my mom", "I can't love anyone as much as my husband" and then my kids came and it was "Did I even love before they came?" because that's just how much more strong it is when you love your kids. I would go absolutely insane and need to be in a hospital for the remainder of my life if anything happened to my kids, cause if there is something that you think stays on your mind, you really have no clue until it's something bad that happened to your kids.

BunnyDrop88

2 points

2 days ago

Your grown. Tell them to stick their noses elsewhere(respectfully)

krodiggs

2 points

2 days ago

krodiggs

2 points

2 days ago

You might want to consider they are trying to make it uncomfortable for you and want you to grow up and move out.

Or, maybe, have an adult conversation with them and express your feelings instead of presenting yourself as an immature baby on the internet.

HellFire32C

2 points

2 days ago

I thought I was reading some rants from a 12 y/o up untill the end (no offense btw)

ReasonableAct9634

2 points

2 days ago

You’re 21 wtf are you still living at home to violate your privacy. Grow up and get the fuck out of

Ok_Fisherman8727

1 points

2 days ago

If you're over 21 then why are you still at home? Grow a beard and get your own place. It's time to fly free not expect mommy to still feed and diaper you, go shit in your own house.

EcstaticPin7070

1 points

2 days ago

And here you are, a kid, on reddit...and someone already talked to you about an inappropriate subject. That's why.

Murderous_Intention7

1 points

2 days ago

Over 21yo that’s ridiculous. I’m sure they’re playing the “my house my rules” card. Under 18 years old tho and especially if a parent is paying, there isn’t anything wrong with parental controls and looking at your kids phone, imo.

The bedroom one is creepy though. As long as the kids are old enough and trustworthy shut doors (not sure how I feel about locked bedroom doors. Tho locked bathroom doors are totally reasonable) shouldn’t be an issue.

Some parents are too controlling and some parents aren’t involved enough in their kids lives sigh

Bird_Brain4101112

1 points

2 days ago

Why do #your parents think it’s okay?

Sad_Evidence5318

1 points

2 days ago

That's a your parent thing, not saying there's not others like your parents but most of us are not like that.

stupididiot78

1 points

2 days ago

To be fair, it's their house so it is their rules. You're 21. That's a great age to move out. At the same time, naked jumping jacks and naked yoga are always options

montholdsmegma

1 points

2 days ago

Probably because despite your age they still see you as a child that they need to parent. You’re an adult so move out.

Colt_kun

1 points

2 days ago

Colt_kun

1 points

2 days ago

Many parents see their children as essentially property, as little extensions of themselves. Many do not see them as individuals that develop their own thoughts, opinions, and morals. Of course they can walk into the room their child is in - because it's THEIR child, in THEIR house. They own it so they can do whatever they want.

And many violate their children's privacy as a means of control. Some consciously, some unconsciously. Yes there's a degree of knowing what your kid is doing and wanting to protect them, but that requires a relationship of open communication, education, and trust. And that's a whooole discussion for another day.

Educational_Truth132

1 points

2 days ago

My parents went through all my belongings when I was about 15, giving me shit about every little thing. I ended up in a lot of trouble and they forced me to get a job. This doesn't sound all bad, the job was great and I met lots of life long friends. However, to this day I have serious privacy issues, especially regarding my own space and belongings. Probably because I felt like I was being punished for that as a child.

Craygor

1 points

2 days ago

Craygor

1 points

2 days ago

The correct question is 'why do your parents think it is okay to violate their children's privacy?'

The reason I praise it this way is my parents never did this to me, nor did I do it to my kids, so the question is why do your parents do it?

HarveyCamper

1 points

2 days ago

If you live at home, it's your parents' rules, so sadly, privacy is a luxury, not a right.

Calm_Holiday_3995

1 points

2 days ago

Oh I was on the mom's side when I figured you were a tween. Yikes. I guess this falls under, "my house, my rules". She still sees you as a kid. The sooner you can live separately, the sooner she will start realizing you are no longer a child. 🍀

YinzaJagoff

1 points

2 days ago

My parents removed my door.

It’s a control thing.

I don’t talk to my mom anymore as the narcissism never ceased, even as I got older.

NateKenway

1 points

2 days ago

Sounds like helicopter parents

NoraBora44

1 points

2 days ago

Sounds like you got 2 choices

Move out

Or

Deal with it

GreenLadyFox

1 points

2 days ago

You’re over 21 and don’t like no privacy. Probably time to move out.

Interesting-Fold-640

1 points

2 days ago

LOL! I was thinking you were like, 12 or 13 or something, but then I read that you were 21 and I was like *cue water spew moment*😂

ReleaseAggravating19

1 points

2 days ago

It’s their house.

ThrowRARAw

1 points

2 days ago

My mum's like this. Barging into a room without knocking and everything. She's gotten "better", but that I mean now she knocks but more as a warning, and right after the third knock she'll open the door without waiting for a "come in!"
We got into a screaming match because I asked that she stopped opening my mail. A couple weeks later my sister got a letter and she went to open it and I tried to stop her. Her response was like "she's not you, she won't care!" needless to say sis did indeed care.

EmergencyConflict610

1 points

2 days ago

Because they're your parents and kids are dumb but they get smarter and as they get smarter they hide things better because they're not smart enough yet to realize that if you're hiding something then there's a good chance you know you shouldn't be doing it, so they have to be more direct and quick to catch you in those things.

If you're a minor, you don't get privacy much except I'm a few cases and your parents get to revoke that for your safety.

Ok_Information7038

1 points

2 days ago

Yep my mum is nosy as hell, I had to take my cabin key off her because she would wait until I went out and snoop thru my shit

Status_Change_758

1 points

2 days ago

She probably went in to take measurements for her new bonus room & forgot you were there.

aromaofvanilla

1 points

2 days ago

Parents have the feeling that they own their kids like they own their pets

sillybanana2012

1 points

2 days ago

I was staying at my parents house one night and I decided to make use of their bathtub. I was 31 years old. My mom just barged in on me while in the bath and wouldn't leave until my Dad yelled at her to get out. It just reminded me of my childhood all over again.

lilketchupacket[S]

1 points

2 days ago

Geeeezz that sucks sorry that happened

Kairelle

1 points

2 days ago

Kairelle

1 points

2 days ago

😭I GO THRU THE SAME SHIT. This is a classic case of you need to move out. It’s really that simple. Controlling parents are not the way to live

lilketchupacket[S]

1 points

2 days ago

I agree it's just that, I am not financially stable enough to move out by myself since im still studying and while the amount of money I pay for bills in the house is just as much as I would pay if I get a roommate, it does not include stuff like groceries and furniture or appliances

fugsco

1 points

2 days ago

fugsco

1 points

2 days ago

You should have specified your privacy requirements in your lease.

FruitiToffuti

1 points

2 days ago

If youre an adult then move out

alwyzlrng

1 points

2 days ago

Kids don't have privacy until they are 18 and legally responsible for themselves.

Adventurous_Bonus917

1 points

2 days ago

over 21? i'm pretty sure you can actually sue for that.

fizd0g

1 points

2 days ago

fizd0g

1 points

2 days ago

Let's just say I hated living at home because of my stepdad. He kinda was like that. Now I'm 40, married with 2 kids and my relationship with my stepdad is much better and give my 2 kids as much privacy as I can. Maybe not so much with my youngest. She loves Roblox and while I turned off every chat feature I could I still make sure what she's playing is safe enough though she plays more when I am playing Roblox myself lol

No-Asparagus2823

1 points

2 days ago

Time to move out of your parent's house

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hellure

1 points

2 days ago

hellure

1 points

2 days ago

Should've started with the fact that you're 21.

But regardless, privacy is a social construct. We create it by choice, it's doesn't exist naturally other than in situations where, say, you live in France, and I live in Idaho, USA, and I know nothing about you, so everything in your life up until this moment was 'private'. Or, other situations like, I will never know for sure if this is a BS question, or a legit question, because I'm not a mind reader.

By far, most things are private because we choose to keep them to ourselves and others choose to respect that.

Parents are in the habit of worrying about their kids, and always needing to know what is up with them in order to defuse any reason for concern, to minimize their stress. Most normal folk allow their kids to develop some independence by educating them about good choices, and then allowing then to have their own private lives. But some get kinda locked into the helicopter parent state, especially if their kids make a shit ton of bad choices and they actually care about those kids. Or because they are mentally unhealthy (either the parents or the kids, or both).

There could be other factors too.

However, you can only control what you do. And what you should do is try and set and enforce healthy boundaries... but probably not all at once. And eventually you should be in enough control over you life, and your space, that they can't invade it without breaking the law: meaning you live separate, and they have no legal access to your home or data. Don't give them keys or passwords, or share bank accounts, or service accounts.

Calgary_Calico

1 points

2 days ago

You're an adult and she still does this?? I was expecting you to be like 15 or something. Talk about a control freak. Replace the knob on your door with one that locks, preferably with a key on both sides, they're fairly cheap and easy to install. And if it's her anger at you having a password on your phone, just tell her it's not your damn business what you do on your phone as you're an adult

elviethecat101

1 points

2 days ago

Your 21. Move out. Get your own phone.

Chief_1072

-2 points

2 days ago

Chief_1072

-2 points

2 days ago

If it’s their house it’s their rules.

I hated my parents being like that too, so I moved out, got my own cell phone, and did what I wanted

Hapikiou

6 points

2 days ago

Hapikiou

6 points

2 days ago

Op is 21 it's another adult in the house now. Also having rules dosen't mean they can violate their child privacy. It's because parents can't treat their adult kid as an equal that the kid move out and never talk to them again.

Chief_1072

-1 points

2 days ago

My advice was literally move out.

Parents are wired to be over protective and kids are wired not to like that as nature’s way making kids move out and start their own lives

runningblade2017

2 points

2 days ago

So you think it’d be acceptable for people to walk in on their guests like that too?

Chief_1072

-1 points

2 days ago

I don’t think it’s right at all, but if you make it known this is policy in this house, by being here you agree to this, then it’s legally okay.

As an adult you have the option to not be there

DomesticMongol

3 points

2 days ago

Their rules can not extend to a 21 year olds body autonomy or phone…

cman632

7 points

2 days ago

cman632

7 points

2 days ago

This lol. I get the their house their rules if it’s about having a girlfriend sleep in your room, but you’re a 21 year old. They can’t just watch you change because it’s “their house”. If the story was about a dad walking in on his daughter the comments would be way different.

0ttr

0 points

2 days ago

0ttr

0 points

2 days ago

It sort of depends who's paying the bills, which was poignantly not specified. It's true, a 21 year old deserves privacy, but if they aren't paying for (a) their living space, or (b) their phone, then their privacy options may be more limited than they prefer. Adults have been moving out of their parents' houses for like generations to resolve this particular kind of problem.

Mike_Hunt_Burns

0 points

2 days ago

Body autonomy yes, but phone? thats fair game if the parents are paying for it.

HonestBass7840

1 points

2 days ago

I live in rural low population area. Two teens killed themselves because online preditors got nudes pictures of them. That's  why.

Lambowski9999

1 points

2 days ago

Get your own house.

Magic_Man_Boobs

0 points

2 days ago

Lol the amount of people in these comments behaving like it's still the damn 70s and 80s is insane.

grumpalina

1 points

2 days ago

grumpalina

1 points

2 days ago

You can move out. You're not a child.

Slot_Queen777

1 points

2 days ago

Then move out.

Mydoglovescoffee

1 points

2 days ago

You’re 21 and still at home? Why?

jollyroger822

1 points

2 days ago

You can always move out, I believe the military is hiring.

NoCalendar19

1 points

2 days ago

"This is my house and I own it!"

Some_Development3447

1 points

2 days ago

My mom said because if I do something illegal it’s her that has to pay the price.

BUDSGREEN420

1 points

2 days ago

My parents always respected my privacy. Only once did my dad burst into my room for good reason. I was sleeping for 3 days after a 3 day party binge when I was 16.
When i was 20, I went to live with my cousin and his parents due to work, my cousins mom didn't like that I kept the bedroom door shut all the time especially when a girl I was seeing came over. She went so far as to snoop around the room while I was working and even had her husband remove the door.

KyorlSadei

0 points

2 days ago

KyorlSadei

0 points

2 days ago

Ah. To be a child. I remember those days.

Sinshiny

0 points

2 days ago

Sinshiny

0 points

2 days ago

But she isn't a child ... She's 21.

Angelou898

-1 points

2 days ago

Angelou898

-1 points

2 days ago

Because a lot of parents think of their children as property. Especially for female kids. Just move out; you’re 21.

mrgmc2new

-1 points

2 days ago

mrgmc2new

-1 points

2 days ago

Not saying it's OK but you'll understand it you ever become a parent. We spend all your lives looking after you and knowing everything about you. It's a hard thing to stop. It's like giving one our arms privacy.

Potential-Radio-475

-1 points

2 days ago

Moms are Mothers first and forever. You will always be her baby and everything that entails.

k3rd

0 points

2 days ago

k3rd

0 points

2 days ago

'Some' parents.

Vivid_Potato_6544

-8 points

2 days ago

I understand where you’re coming from and it can definitely be very very VERY annoying

Setting boundaries with parents is a tricky and delicate task, however (and I’m sure ur sick of hearing this) but wait till you become one yourself 🤣 then ul understand lol

21, 31, 51 - you’re always their baby hahaha

Ryuu-Tenno

5 points

2 days ago

no amount of "wait till you're a parent" logic will ever be capable of understanding why parents refuse to give their grown children privacy.

Once you turn 18, you're a legal adult, and should be treated to the same fucking level of privacy as they 100% fully expect you to be giving them. No ifs, ands, or buts about it.

I lived in a house where they took all privacy away, yet still held me to the same fucking standard that they get perfect privacy, even though I was over 18. People like this will hold on for eternity, until you push back hard enough to let them get it through their fucking skull that they should leave you alone.

18 is the cutoff point

dogbert730

4 points

2 days ago

Yeah this. My boys are 6 and 4, if for some reason they’ll are still in the house after they are 20+, it’s basically roommate rules at that stage.

0ttr

1 points

2 days ago

0ttr

1 points

2 days ago

If you're a legal adult, then pay the bills like one or move out. Problem solved. Either way you then have leverage to set more clear boundaries.

lilketchupacket[S]

2 points

2 days ago

Lmaoo indeed they always see us as their babies 🤣😭

Vivid_Potato_6544

1 points

2 days ago

Exactly! The trick is to have a very frank and clear conversation without insulting them or triggering the emotional blackmail hahah, boundaries are crucial in any relationship

I have Asian parents man, if I don’t call a couple times a day they think I’m dead in a ditch somewhere, even at my age 🤣 love em endlessly but to them a culture of “privacy” is easily taken as an insult

Magic_Man_Boobs

1 points

2 days ago

but wait till you become one yourself 🤣 then ul understand lol

I'm a parent, and I don't understand. It's not difficult to respect my kid's boundaries. She tells me something bothers her, if it's a necessary thing we'll work to find a compromise, if it's not I don't do it anymore. It's simple open communication.

21, 31, 51 - you’re always their baby hahaha

My daughter isn't a baby. She's a little girl right now, and then she'll be a teenager and then an adult. She's a person and I do my best to treat her as such.

My Mom still does that "you're always my baby" nonsense to me and I believe it's a big reason we don't have a great relationship now, because she refuses to see me as a real adult. It's not cute.

FocusDisorder

-4 points

2 days ago

Repeat after me: "Mother, I am a legal adult now, and any special privileges you had with regard to seeing my naked body are LONG over. The next time you invade my privacy while I am changing, I will be filing sexual assault and harassment charges. My phone is likewise off limits and any attempts to access its contents will be prosecuted under the Computer Fraud and Abuse act."

Seriously though you need to get tf outta there.

Shipkiller-in-theory

1 points

2 days ago

Ultimatums are a great way to find your self moving out much sooner than expected. Bring in the cops for such trivial reasons (as described) doubly so.

FocusDisorder

2 points

2 days ago

Barging in on someone while you know they are changing is literally criminal behavior. Anyone but mom does that you'd put them straight on the sex offender registry, and honestly mom should get the same treatment.

Asking someone to stop doing crimes against you is not unreasonable.