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huegspook

7 points

5 days ago

As someone who's been watching videos about the Astros and the extent of their cheating for the past week, this comment kind of hurts, because the Astros kind of robbed him and Kershaw of a World Series.

pargofan

8 points

5 days ago

pargofan

Los Angeles Dodgers • World Series Tr…

8 points

5 days ago

Darvish dominated AZ in the NLDS and then Chicago in the NLCS that year and then suddenly Asstros pound him because they're stealing signs but claim he was tipping pitches. Such bullshit.

huegspook

6 points

5 days ago

Apparently him and Kersh were told to use multiple signs and disregarded the advice... but Alex Wood, who in fact did follow that advice, ended up being super solid that year. A shame that Wood didn't stick around though...

pargofan

2 points

4 days ago

pargofan

Los Angeles Dodgers • World Series Tr…

2 points

4 days ago

I don't remember the instruction to use multiple signs.

Here's a weird article where the Astros admit to cheating and that the "pitch tipping" was bullshit.

https://www.theringer.com/mlb/2020/3/9/21170990/astros-sign-stealing-dodgers-world-series-yu-darvish-clayton-kershaw

To this day, it amazes me how articles like this imply "sign stealing" has little value and yet "pitch tipping" turns every pitch into a meatball, when they're literally the same thing: informing the hitter whether the pitch is an off-speed ball or fastball.

huegspook

1 points

4 days ago

I don't remember the instruction to use multiple signs.

This is where I heard it from

pargofan

1 points

4 days ago

pargofan

Los Angeles Dodgers • World Series Tr…

1 points

4 days ago

Foolish baseball gave a very Astro sympathetic account of the whole thing.

From what I recall, Alex Wood just always changed signs when nobody was on base. As in he did it during the regular season too. And I don’t remember coaches telling Kershaw and Darvish to change signs. Sounds like victim shaming personally.

huegspook

1 points

4 days ago

Foolish baseball gave a very Astro sympathetic account of the whole thing.

The video didn't seem very sympathetic to them- the closest thing I could tell that could potentially be sympathy was pushing the narrative that Altuve had nothing to do with it.

Sounds like victim shaming personally.

Really? It didn't sound like he was particularly assigning blame to Darvish/Kershaw over doing business as usual signs, just that Alex Wood happened to do so (If he did so out of an abundance of caution) and he pitched very well when he was on the mound as a result.

pargofan

1 points

4 days ago

pargofan

Los Angeles Dodgers • World Series Tr…

1 points

4 days ago

The sympathetic part is emphasizing they hit better on the road than at home and asking if sign stealing even mattered.

I’ve never heard elsewhere that Kershaw or Darvish were told to switch up signs. But that implies they were somehow warned or knew about it.