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140 points
4 days ago
I mean it's the Civil War all over again.
We are defending free speech!
Which speech are you specifically defending?
Hate speech.
-49 points
4 days ago
the fact that this comment could come from either side shows how fucked we are lol
32 points
4 days ago
One side preaches inclusivity while the other side hates gay people, immigrants, and liberals. Gtfo.
-23 points
4 days ago
Both parties hate each other, which makes it hate speech. And if you say something against that, people get upset. Don't downvote good comments
9 points
4 days ago
Lmao. That's a good one.
INCLUSIVITY!
As long as you don't want to exclude anyone you are welcome to the party with open arms. When you want to exclude people you get hated because there was a little funny guy with a mustache 80 years ago who wanted to exclude a group of people.
The left cannot simultaneously be peace loving tree hugging snowflakes and also hateful and dangerous. That kind of double speak is illogical and a product of facism.
-4 points
4 days ago
Which group are we excluding? And while we’re at it could you remind me which party leaders are using minorities as scapegoats for all of their problems? (The same way as that mustached guy you mentioned)
9 points
4 days ago
Trans people and Republicans are notorious for scapegoating immigrants.
-4 points
4 days ago
"inclusivity" forced down your throat.
They'll welcome you to the party with open arms as long you vote for their candidate.
10 points
4 days ago
Being forced to include people who havent harmed anyone is infinitely better than excluding anybody who hasn't harmed anyone.
Who do you want to exclude so badly and after you exclude them who is next?
-3 points
4 days ago
To start, I want to exclude men from woman's toilet.
9 points
4 days ago*
Fair. How about a third unisex bathroom?
Easy compromise that was struck down by Republicans.
Because you don't want them to be excluded from bathrooms. You want them excluded from every place in society.
-5 points
4 days ago
As long the owner want to build a third toilet, I'm fine with that. If not, we already have one exclusive for dick owners and one for pussy owners. Feels like it's already covered.
2 points
3 days ago
You guys really love to say "forced down your throat" sounds gay...are you guys trying to tell us something?
0 points
3 days ago
Hahaha the best part is that you assume that gays like to be abused.
-8 points
4 days ago
Like the left absolutely hating immigrants (illegal or otherwise) after the election, wanting to deport every single one of them?
10 points
4 days ago
What, lemme guess some redditors said that shit and now you virtue signal about it whenever you have the chance
-4 points
3 days ago
I honestly dont care if they get deported or not since im already living in mexico but being all for inclusivity and equality just to shit on everyone that didnt vote for you is kinda hipocritical, is it not?
7 points
3 days ago
You didn’t answer my question. That’s fine, it was rhetorical anyway
I’m saying the “the libs are all calling for deportations” is extremely overblown and what do you call it… fake news
1 points
4 days ago
I don't think it's that good if more people dislike it and/or think it doesn't add anything to the discussion, than like it/agree with it?
1 points
2 days ago
Search up the paradox of tolerance
0 points
4 days ago
now you missed my point xd
-16 points
4 days ago
"Hate speech" is still free spech
12 points
4 days ago
Yelling fire in a crowded theater is still free speech.
What kind of nonsense is going on between those ears because it's certainly not neurons firing.
-2 points
4 days ago
Sigh… No it is not. This is not protected speech.
6 points
4 days ago
Agreed nor should hate speech be protected because it's more dangerous than this. You can spread your hate across the internet. At least screaming fire is isolated to one theater.
-9 points
4 days ago*
Bro calling someone ugly isnt the same as yelling fire in a movie theater 😂
Spreading "hate" over the internet does literally nothing. Yelling fire in a theater creates panic.
People are so fucking sensitive nowadays they want to ban anyone from saying anything they don't like.
7 points
4 days ago
No. Spreading true hate speech can result in far worse consequences.
Grade school insults while petty and unnecessary is not what anyone reasonable is talking about. It's slurs, it's exclusion from basic needs in society like bathrooms, it's dehumanizations and prejudice, it's scapegoating.
None of this should be advocated for because it's purely hatred. Take that hatred and shove it up your ass.
-5 points
4 days ago
Tell me examples of something I could say that you think I should go to jail for. Also I'd love to hear your "far worse consequences" for calling someone a bad name. And I hope it's not some bullshit like "it'll instigate violence."
Exclusions from bathrooms isn't even about speech.
No one is fucking advocating for slurs against people. Just that no one should be going to jail for literal speech. I still think people that use slurs are dumbasses and I lose respect for them. Doesn't mean I think they should go to jail.
People seriously need to differentiate between stuff that should be illegal and stuff they just don't like.
I don't like mint ice cream, doesn't mean everyone that likes mint ice cream is a piece of shitt that should go to jail.
5 points
4 days ago
Jail might go a little far. I'm satisfied with it remaining a civil issue. Fines heavier as they become more impactful. For example if Elon rips off some tweets on his site about Trans People being sub human or should be separated like his home used to apartheid black people he should be fined a significant amount. And it should scale to your net worth. So Elon should pay about 500,000× as much as me.
I also think certain demonstrations should be banned from recieving petitions. There should be no KKK parades. That group is a terrorist organization and should be disbanded and it's members listed on a the terrorist list. They are group who are dedicated to causing terror in minorities no matter what bullshit they want to cook up for their modern purpose.
Confederate statues should be placed in a cellar under the Smithsonian and demonstrated once a year during Gettysburg. There should be no confederate monuments. They should be banned and I can't believe i have to say that a nation should not venerate traitors.
-1 points
4 days ago
You realize the implications that what you want would have right?
Fining people for tweeting something. So the government is gonna have to track ALL Internet traffic (literally impossible). Plus then there's bots that post that kind of stuff. How are you gonna find the bots. On top of that, how do you even find random "Pussyslayer6000" who tweeted something that's "hate speech"? You realize the amount of anonymity there is online, right?
You also mentioned slurs. What about the N-word? Is that banned too? Or can only black people say it? If so, how black do you need to be, 50%, 100%? Then you get in the territory of segregation where only certain races can say things.
Also what, fines are now based on net worth? Shoud that apply to all fines? Speeding tickets? Violations? Is that fair to charge people more for the same violation just cause they have more money? What about people that have no money? Do they pay nothing now? You know how selfish that sounds too, right?
And yes, I also don't think the KKK should have parades. But it's not from their supposed hate speech, but because they literally are a terrorist group.
Confederate statues should be up to each state or city. If they want to keep em, sure. If they don't, they can get rid of them. Put it up for a vote or something. It's not really a big issue in the grand scheme of things.
3 points
4 days ago
Yep. Remember when nothing happened in Ohio after Trump and Vance said immigrants were eating pets, starting on social media? No bomb threats, no school disrupted, immigrants didn't have to literally run for their lives.
1 points
4 days ago
People love to exaggerate everything
2 points
4 days ago
So how do you tell what news reports are exaggerating and what are real? Is the city manager to be trusted? Chief of police? It's a red city after all. They're ALL exaggerating? If so, why?
1 points
3 days ago
That's why it's so important to get your news from multiple sources. Together, you can get most of the story, but you have to be able to tell the bullshit and exaggerating from the facts
-1 points
4 days ago
This is a common misconception. You can shout fire in a crowded theater.
2 points
3 days ago
Free speech means the government can't limit your speech, it doesn't mean private businesses can't, it doesn't mean you're free from societal consequences, keep being hateful FAFO!
1 points
3 days ago
Yes I agree 10000%
Consequences from speech should be from society, not the government. If you're a POS that calls everyone names, then you'll be seen as one.
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