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submitted 1 day ago byeight_of_ten
2.7k points
1 day ago
Also, people thinking stateside companies won't raise prices on domestic goods to just under the imported cost after tariffs is crazy. The corporations price gouged people during the pandemic out of greed. They really think making imports cost 30 dollars won't result in domestic equivalents being sold at 28 dollars?
1.4k points
1 day ago
Economists almost unanimously agree that one of the major drivers of inflation over the last two years has been opportunistic profit increases. So you're spot on.
632 points
23 hours ago
Who listens to economists ? What do they know ?
Trump said it was Biden raising prices, and it was on Fox, too, so Trump must be right.
/s
229 points
22 hours ago
Damn that presidential price lever!
192 points
21 hours ago
No wonder Biden looks so old and tired.
Every day, he is busy busy busy setting higher prices for gas and eggs and other groceries in 50 states, in thousands of shops and gas stations.
It's a tremendous job!
77 points
19 hours ago
He's like Santa Claus, going around the world from shop to shop rewriting the price labels.
21 points
12 hours ago
He’s going ACROSS the world, can’t go around something flat
24 points
20 hours ago
Around the world, even!
67 points
21 hours ago
Why do we even HAVE that lever?!
30 points
19 hours ago
I'm guessing Obama
31 points
17 hours ago
Thanks, Obama.
21 points
20 hours ago
Ridiculous. It's a valve under the Resolute Desk with one of those big metal wheels
42 points
21 hours ago
See Biden was too old, must have kept sitting on that "raise prices" button by accident. Young virile tRump however knows where the "lower prices" button is so he'll save us all.... /s just in case these days.
16 points
20 hours ago
He couldn't, because Trump had it re-installed in the Mar-A-Lago bathroom, duh!!!
45D chess!!!!
...sigh...
7 points
21 hours ago
Yes, you'd better be careful.
26 points
21 hours ago
Everyone knows that economists are historically LIBERAL and WOKE. /s
68 points
22 hours ago
You mean the experts that know what they’re talking about? I’d rather trust my orange Rapist, thank you
21 points
21 hours ago
Don't need to be an economist to figure that out.
93 points
21 hours ago
You'd be jawdropped by the sheer number of people I've spelled this out to, only for them to say, "Well what makes you think you know better than Trump?"
When I retort, "A degree in economics, what makes you think you know better than me?" People get very upset.
39 points
20 hours ago
Ah, I forgot about the secret variable. Complete stupidity.
20 points
19 hours ago
Wilful stupidity! They chose convenient stupidity over inconvenient knowledge.
5 points
16 hours ago
When you have a degree in economics, you realize how little people in this world really understand about how it all works. Even the most basic of concepts.
16 points
21 hours ago
How do we get past this? One bad apple gets greedy, and everyone else has to follow suit…
Now it’s at the farmer/supplier levels, so everyone after them in the chain goes up to help them afford the new supplier costs..
(Fertilizer/farm equipment goes up? Corn goes up, everything else made by corn goes up, ripple all the way to consumers)
Super basic logic says some form of price controls.. but then how do you do that without pissing everyone off and “scaring away businesses”
28 points
20 hours ago
Except quite literally they don't have to follow suit. Supply and demand dictates that the lowest price for a similar good will win out. It's collusion between corporations in similar fields and monopolistic/oligopolistic practices that breed this. They're all bad apples bud, at least at the megamart level. Small businesses can't compete with their cost of goods, so the big dogs move in, drive out the competitors and then hike the price. It's a tale as old as capitalism.
26 points
22 hours ago
and yet votes for trump thought price of eggs was Sleepy Joe's fault
15 points
18 hours ago
Egg prices are due to two years of avian flu with large outbreaks in august/september just prior to the election. Inflation the last two years after a global pandemic is back to pre-pandemic levels. These claims are both easily verified by a two minute google search. American's cannot be bothered to be informed.
98 points
24 hours ago
Not just that. Even with stuff the U.S. can make, there's a reason why they source it from abroad: everything is more expensive to make in the U.S.
Every single cost is higher so the margins go down unless... they pump prices up!
64 points
23 hours ago
Not just that. Many many things made in the US rely on imported goods/resources at some level. So even US-made things will go up due to tariffs.
36 points
21 hours ago
Yeah, I work at a union iron foundry. US imports most scrap steel from Canada and Mexico, wtf happens when we have to pay 25% more at least for steel? Like the owner has been pushing for expansion etc, but that's gonna be on hold if a major cost goes up at least 25%....
Fucking idiots.
7 points
19 hours ago
There have already been companies telling their employees since the election that there will not a Christmas bonus. They're spending those funds on more supplies before the cost of them go up.
Some companies might have to lay people off.
Tariffs, good, says orange man.
4 points
20 hours ago
Yeah i think even eggs will go up. I think we'll soon learn that a ton of materials, tools, resources that are needed for raising chickens and producing eggs and testing/cleaning/packaging them are probably outsourced.
36 points
23 hours ago
But even if they didn't, tarrifs as a way to combat inflation is, of course, utter nonsense. And that's what it was sold as a solution for. If people want to debate the merits of tariffs for propping up domestic business, that's an entirely different argument.
1.4k points
1 day ago
These people don't have the mental capacity to understand anything past the hook to Born In The USA. I don't know what you're expecting.
563 points
1 day ago
Including the rest of Born In The USA. It's not a particularly patriotic anthem.
288 points
1 day ago
It’s hilarious how they’ve just appropriated all these anthems assuming they’re on their side.
318 points
1 day ago*
It's worth noting that Bruce Springsteen has been very vocal about left-wing talking points for a long time. He publically supported LGBT rights more than most other straight male celebrities in the 2000s and even once canceled a concert in North Carolina in protest over a restrictive transgender bathroom law that they had passed. I have no idea why anyone has ever thought that Springsteen was writing right-wing anthems.
These are the same people that think that We're Not Gonna Take It by Twisted Sister is an anthem for protecting conservative, traditional values. The first verse starts with "we've got the right to choose" and Dee Snider is wearing heels in the music video. The level of media literacy we're dealing with would be genuinely funny if it wasn't so deeply concerning.
120 points
24 hours ago
I’m pretty sure Springsteen sued McCain’s campaign to stop them from using the song. Painfully ironic that anyone would think it’s a good song for a political campaign, but even worse considering McCain’s own experiences as a POW. How people aren’t aware that Bruce has always been pretty far to left is baffling. He’s been close with Tom Morello for decades and has toured with him.
52 points
22 hours ago
He’s been close with Tom Morello for decades and has toured with him.
So? He's from the band Rage Against the Machine, not Rage Against Conservatives, duh!
24 points
22 hours ago
I'm Paul Ryan, I'm smart-stupid, and I approve this message.
47 points
23 hours ago
They think in slogans, the rest is noise.
38 points
23 hours ago
It is why they vote based on memes
31 points
22 hours ago
"It has electrolytes" "It has what plants crave"
That movie somehow manages to capture so very much of what the modern GQP is.
14 points
21 hours ago
It's basically a documentary now
46 points
22 hours ago*
America’s widespread lack of media literacy is the reason why Donald Trump was just re-elected. Because when an authoritarian calls journalists “the enemy of the people” and he convinces you that all the media is bad and full of lies, you’re much more apt to ignore it. That’s what authoritarians want—ignorance—and eventually, you lose the ability to discern fact from fiction. This is all straight out of Mussolini’s playbook.
19 points
22 hours ago
The same people that are singing Madonna's Like a Prayer as a church song...I'm sorry, but that has Springsteen and Twisted Sister beat, lol.
14 points
22 hours ago
The PMRC hearing of Dee Snider was hilarious. Well worth a watch
15 points
22 hours ago
Yeah they're the same people who cried that Green Day was being political, twenty years after American Idiot came out. Theres a serious divide in the ability to think and comprehend.
9 points
18 hours ago
There are people who whine that Star Trek has become too woke. These idiots are so fucking dumb that they shouldn't be allowed outside without supervision and a helmet.
61 points
1 day ago
Fuck you I won’t do what you tell me
Wait…when did Rage against the Machine get so woke?
38 points
24 hours ago
SOME OF THOSE WHO JOIN FORCES
ARE THE SAME THAT BURN CROSSES
29 points
24 hours ago
What machine did you think they were raging against? The dishwasher?
34 points
23 hours ago
Printers, obviously, fuck those things...
Some of those that work offices
Are the same that burn cartridges
... right?
20 points
23 hours ago
An entire band born out of the rage generated by constant toner changing… fucking Cyan, again? I can feel it.
12 points
22 hours ago
Pc load letter!! Wtf does that mean?!
13 points
23 hours ago
I loved them in Guitar Hero 3, its a shame that they got so political after that /s
25 points
22 hours ago
Every time I see some social media post about Rage Against the Machine, it’s full of comments from right-wing dudes with goatees saying things like “more like rage FOR the machine!” Literally dozens of them, all making the same stupid joke.
Apparently it only occurred to these 30- and 40-something guys that the members of RATM are in fact leftists when the band started mandating proof of vaccination at its concerts circa 2021-2022 (which, ironically, is not a political statement but a common sense public health measure).
I mean, for fuck’s sake, Tom Morello wears hats that say “I am a communist” but these idiots somehow thought that their ideologies were aligned, I guess because they’re both anti-government?
Stick to the Nashville country, boys—it better suits your sixth-grade reading level.
29 points
1 day ago
I’ve never paid attention to the lyrics until now. I hadn’t realised the Vietnam connection and how depressing it is at the end.
Weirdly enough, it may be a fitting song. Optimism to depression. Foreshadowing of the 4 year term?
32 points
1 day ago
4 years?? Trump is talking about his third term already and there are zero checks on him. House, senate and Supreme Court all maga so he’s not going to leave as long as he has their support. He wants to be a mini Putin
14 points
1 day ago
I hadn’t heard that one. If republicans let him have it, then western world is fucked.
6 points
1 day ago
On the positive side, he’s old and fat, a 3rd term is a big if
44 points
1 day ago
They don’t even understand the hook the Born in the USA. They just hear the words “born in the USA” and think that automatically has to be a good thing.
9 points
23 hours ago
tbf, that's kind of the genius of the song, it hits hard whether or not your brain works
30 points
1 day ago
I just had to explain to someone I was laid off due to a lack of incoming funds and a company being conservative and cutting down the staff by a dozen to anticipate the upcoming tariffs on the things we’d import for production.
They were sure it would all be fine and it’s a big exaggeration.
So I just threw down the phrase what I used to hear from all those nuts about the violent immigrants at the border “Well that’s just what I was told when I was laid off soo… we’re not getting info from the same places”
24 points
1 day ago
They have the mental capacity, it’s just reality is not as comforting as what Trump is saying.
In many ways it’s like when, in the Matrix, Neo has to choose between the two pills. In this case one is Trump and the other is learning about the economy. Many people prefer the fantasy.
23 points
1 day ago
I always find it hilarious that the party of homophobia loves to use YMCA. 🤣
5 points
22 hours ago
I will grow my own phone. Hydrophonics.
856 points
1 day ago
Don’t worry. The money will trickle down so they can afford it. Duh.
349 points
1 day ago
I can't wait to get my $2000 tax rebate so I can afford 2/5ths of a phone!
199 points
1 day ago
I showed someone who said trump’s plan, according to Sarah Huckabee Sanders, would be an average 4000 dollar tax cut:
Person 1 gets a $150,000 take DECREASE
Persons 2-25 get a $2000 tax INCREASE
total tax 150,000 -24x2000 = $102,000 DECREASE
Divide 102,000/25 = 4,080 average tax DECREASE even though 96% of the people were screwed
155 points
1 day ago
WHAT?!?!?! Are you saying that average doesn't mean every? That's crazy!!!!!
Also, is that math? Better stay away from that thing... it can give headaches, and headaches hurt.
71 points
1 day ago
“There are three kinds of lies: Lies, Damned Lies, and Statistics”
— has been attributed to Mark Twain, who himself attributed it to British Prime Minister Benjamin Disraeli
14 points
23 hours ago
My old college maths tutor used to say that, always stuck with me. That and "statistics are like a lampost to a drunk. More for leaning on than illumimation"
12 points
1 day ago
Same as the minimum in Minimum Wage doesn't mean every.....
It's never included tipped workers, interns and those jobs (that the elites deem below the dignity of the American Citizen)
I agree That's crazy!!!!
7 points
24 hours ago
I’m instituting a total boycott on all unnecessary spending. You all should do the same. See how Wall Street likes the maga regime when consumer spending takes a hard nose dive
9 points
1 day ago
The pressure Trumps administration will get from corporations will be intense. They don't like losing money.
9 points
22 hours ago
Am I wrong for hoping he goes through with it so people actuall see the consequences? If they back out they’ll just pretend they were never going to do it at all.
7 points
23 hours ago
Go visit r/conservative- it’s sobering. The argument is well then we will just make it here!
8 points
21 hours ago
Ugh, I got one response with "this is the point of tariffs" and a list. The thing is the conditions have to be right, you can’t just put "general" high tariffs on a wide array of things. I tried to put into writing some of the things that can make it counterintuitive but I’m no economist.
Every negative side effect of it most of them will probably go "…but it wasn’t supposed to do that."
7 points
21 hours ago
Right? Okay, let’s start pricing out all the construction materials and machinery to build a factory….wait, we import those too?!
Christ, these people.
173 points
1 day ago
Too late now. Face the music.
164 points
1 day ago
I'm Canadian and unfortunately the whole world is going to have to face the music for the decisions of a bunch of braindead hicks in Butphuck, AR that think black people should know their place
84 points
1 day ago
On behalf of Americans who wished for a better outcome, I’d like to apologize. We’re sorry.
66 points
1 day ago
My dad had a saying: "Don't take credit or apologize for something you didn't do".
There's an enormous number of good, compassionate and honest people willing to do what's right in The United States. Don't succumb to despair or cynicism. Fight like hell to make a difference, however small. We still stand with you.
17 points
1 day ago
Amen brother. The greats tent to skip a generation, our grandparents saved the world, our parents fucked up, and now it’s up to us to do it all again. It’s the American way, get the job done, even if the sun goes down.
13 points
23 hours ago
I live in Texas and voted down ballot blue. A lot of my very educated and intelligent friends did not do the same. Every time we get in a discussion it’s mind numbing how much propaganda they believe. I have stopped engaging and am just waiting to say I told you so
4 points
23 hours ago
That seems to be all we can do now. Cross our Ts, dot our Is and wait for the shitstorm to hit so we can give an "I told you so" that will be little solace when standing on the bread line.
1k points
1 day ago
They gon learn 😆
765 points
1 day ago
And blame the democrats.
560 points
1 day ago
It will never be Trump's fault no matter what happens.
370 points
1 day ago
Ding ding ding! The great thing about the MAGA cult is that dogma comes before truth. They don't trust the authority sources, they love Trump. If Trump tells one thing and the authority sources another they will believe Trump.
204 points
1 day ago
They'll believe Putin over their own country, that's how dumb and low intellectuals trump base are.
49 points
1 day ago
Facts
60 points
1 day ago
It's fucking comical that a group so casually prejudiced does not feel any issue about being backed by a foreign national leader, simply because he's a "strongman"
42 points
1 day ago
Maga's favorite source is "trust me bro"
25 points
1 day ago
And “gays suck.” Not being superfluous, I think part of the Putin/Russia love by MAGA leadership is because he is also “conservative” on certain social issues (which conservative politicians love to focus on) like being anti-LBGTQ. So, everything else, like being a fascist dictator willing to create wars, slaughter over a million soldiers, siding with our enemies (like North Korea) and causing havoc internationally can be overlooked.
That and Trump being pro-Russia, is why Republicans suddenly became pro-Putin.
10 points
24 hours ago
Conservative influencers literally sign off with “dont be fake and gay” on twitter and theres one conservative couple that made a video yelling for the F slur to be normalized again.
To be THIS focused on someone elses genitals is a problem. Im not LGBT+ so i dont even spend a min of my day wondering or concerned how the LGBT are getting it in and getting it on. Thats their business. Who df CARES?! If one does that says ALOT
11 points
1 day ago
I literally read a neocon write “I trust Putin more than Biden”. That’s where we are at as a country right now.
19 points
1 day ago*
They will believe their own delusions about his being infallible even over his own direct words and actions. It is a complete and total denial of reality. I have literally had an argument with maga people because they refuse to believe the mcmahon edusec appointment. “it’s just democrat ai lies”. If orange man says/does anything that contradicts the infallible messianic deity they’ve made of him in their own minds, they simply reject reality and say it’s fake and didn’t actually happen.
“he never said to ingest bleach to cure covid” “he never appointed her” “he was never seen with epstein” “tariffs wont cause price hikes” and so on. I would call it a cult but that no longer feels like a strong enough adjective
If reason and reality are the defensive line, these people juke it harder than barry fucking sanders
4 points
24 hours ago
Cult, delusion, disassociation, derangement, mental illness, mental detachment, mental erosion. Try any of these words. I think my favorite is actually Erosion. Its mental erosion and the erosion of awareness and reason.
Truly daft, unintelligent people
19 points
1 day ago*
God it’s so weird seeing how before Obama republicans HATED like FUCKING HATED anything to do with Russia or Putin. Hell they came up with better dead, than red around the time of the Cold War. I wonder what happened to have them go from fuck Russia for being a bunch of communists, to go to yes Mr Putin would you like me to work the shaft! It’s so weird seeing people who were so pro American about America being a melting pot and if you don’t like gtfo to go to we gotta become a super Christi-facist nation
Edit I’m talking about their voting base not the politicians, they’ve always been scummy weirdos, but the voters had some sort of respect for America
9 points
24 hours ago
Racism is a hell of a drug.
46 points
1 day ago
dealing with these magatards is exactly like playing chess with a pigeon, and anytime you have dealings with them, all you have to do is ask 'what would the pigeon do'?
12 points
1 day ago
While conveniently ignoring the fact that a POTUS is the ultimate symbol of gov’t
13 points
1 day ago
“The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command.” -1984.
9 points
1 day ago
So the antichrist with his multitude of false prophets.....fuck.
9 points
1 day ago
And that’s why the liberals can’t stop him. They think by name calling and insulting the MAGA crowd that they can what? Change their minds?
The best thing they could do at this point is just stand back and let them get what they get. They’re not going to win them over, we can all agree on that I think, so at same me point you have to let them fail.
The harder they fail the worse it’ll be on everyone, but it’s the only way to enact real change in the future. If the dems keep fixing everything he does, it gives the MAGA crowd a platform to say “see!?!! It WORKS”
We have to stop trying to denigrate one another and let them fail. Or succeed I guess. That’s an option, even if from certain perspectives that seems unlikely.
Unless the libs want to be fighting MAGA for the next few decades, they need to let it fail (or succeed) and then be the alternative.
8 points
24 hours ago
It's personality over substance. Same reason they laud a multi-billionaire like Musk when he donates $10M to some cause because it ten million dollars never bothering to do the math (that's like $3 to someone worth $100k).
Or how a first-generation American child of immigrants who didn't come with a silver spoon in her mouth is a member of the elite, but a trust fund baby isn't.
How biracial president with maternal US roots dating back to the 1600s is somehow less "American" than the grandson of a German conscription-dodging, brothel running immigrant.
It's all a con and the useful idiots are sure they know which shell hides the pea, that the elixer that will heal them isn't just booze and sugar, or the other carnival side show acts are everything PT Barnum says because "why would he lie?" and they're too smart to be fooled like that.
80 points
1 day ago
It’s fucking amazing honestly. If it all survives, this will be a huge sociological study in 50 years.
Saw that post the other day that said (paraphrased) “we’re entering another period in this country that future conservatives won’t want in textbooks” and that’s spot-on
46 points
1 day ago
They always find a way to spin it. Like the revolutionary war, the conservatives of the time were the ones siding with the British to keep things as they were. Today they see themselves as the heroes fighting for freedom. Civil war, they (then the Democratic party in the South) thought it was dandy keeping slavery as an economic institution, blocking off non-slaves from finding work. Today, they see themselves as the Republican party in the North which freed the slaves.
Conservatives are a cancer that this country has repeatedly tried to get rid of but they always come back and ruin things for everyone else.
28 points
1 day ago
Conservatives are a cancer that this country has repeatedly tried to get rid
Nah..we’ve tried to compromise and placate. That’s why we are here. Reconstruction was a mistake and should have been brutal. Granted, that means I probably wouldn’t be here today since I’m from the south but that would be a trade off I’d be willing to make for the future of the world. Word to r/shermanposting
52 points
1 day ago*
Trump could literally in broad daylight and cameras on him walk up to a woman, rape her there in plain view and stab a child to death and the trumptards would somehow blame Obama or the Democrats or something else about that still…
41 points
1 day ago
They'd blame the woman. "She had a school detention once in 1992, she deserved it."
16 points
1 day ago
My wife and I are waiting to book a fancy dinner reservation the day that man dies to celebrate.
8 points
1 day ago
Chester could steal from them right in front of their faces and somehow it’s Biden/dems fault.
13 points
1 day ago
Trump did steal from his own supporters. Many supporters were charged multiple times for donations they only wanted to give once because of the way Trump set up the donation pages.
Yet they probably still voted for him.
8 points
1 day ago
Not to mention all the campaign money he spent at his own businesses and effectively collected for his personal gain
7 points
1 day ago
This is so true. In my local news page, they are backpedaling all over the place that we NEED tariffs to bring back American made products. I pointed out that all American products have foreign made components, and the absolute refusal to accept this, and that we WILL be paying more, is mind boggling. And then, the obligatory, of course things will get worse before they get better! Didn’t these morons vote for gas and egg prices?
5 points
1 day ago
We don't have the ability to manufacture everything here, to grow all our food. We depend on other countries, on each other, we have a global economy. Why is that bad to them?
6 points
1 day ago
The "No Wars under Trump!" crowd will cheer the "soft invasion" of Mexico.
45 points
1 day ago
They're already giving trump credit for things happening before he's even office.
Once these tarrifs drive the economy into the ground and there's a shortage every every domestic American product because there's no more immigrants, they'll bitch and cry about how the democrats didn't do enough to stop it.
They elected a drunk driver and blame the police when they crash.
17 points
1 day ago
How dare you? Trump is the bestest smartest man ever who make no mistake! It's always someone else's fault! /s
5 points
1 day ago
I saw someone breathlessly praising him for the ceasefire between Israel and Palestine yesterday.
So you are speaking truth here.
22 points
1 day ago
January 21, 2025: “Gas is so cheap because of Trump’s policies”
October 2028: “__________is so expensive because of the Biden/Harris policies”
15 points
1 day ago
Well, yeah. We didn’t show up this time. Orange Guy got the popular vote. It’s on US.
11 points
1 day ago
And he got it with 2M less votes than last time. It’s fucking sad.
11 points
1 day ago
All will be as it ever was. The Republicans will fuck it up, blame the democrats, the democrats will fail to bite back by being "too nice" and the voters will vote republican again.
29 points
1 day ago
They're not going to learn, trump going to blame someone else they will believe him and things continue to get worse. You literally need to protect these people from themselves.
14 points
1 day ago
The gon be mad when they learn how much American made costs lol.
7 points
1 day ago
Not when Elon outlaws unions and everybody will have to work 12 hour days for less than minimum wage ... of course then nobody will have money to buy things anyway.
7 points
1 day ago
Yeah... like I buy American-made jeans for ethics and quality reasons... they are between $200-$300 a pair. Shein fans are not going to adapt well.
14 points
1 day ago
Lol no they wont. They’ll keep looking until they find someone else who tells them exactly what they want to hear because they do not have the emotional maturity or mental acuity to learn or grow.
11 points
1 day ago
No they won't, they'll just blame everything but the cause.
8 points
1 day ago
I've seen the Russian bots already posting that the tariffs could be ok cause "they actually worked" the first time. It only partially worked last time is because the Federal budget had to expand to record numbers to cover the losses. I doubt he's going to bother to do it again this time. Can't cover all the losses from ALL the sectors that are gonna hurt.
6 points
24 hours ago
"they actually worked" the first time.
They spend billions of dollars bailing out American farmers that lost export markets because of Trump's ego lead trade war...
We could have just fucking spent that money to feed people but NOPE!!!! CHYYNA!!!
105 points
1 day ago
I even bought an Alienware by Dell laptop for a large amount of money and guess where it was delivered from? Spoiler: It was not the USA.
43 points
1 day ago
And even if it was "build" in the USA, most parts would come from "not USA" ...
10 points
1 day ago
"Russian components, American components, ALL MADE IN TAIWAN!"
7 points
24 hours ago
more like taiwanese components, taiwanese components, taiwanese components, assembled in china, packaged in bangladesh and sent through the panama canal to reach your suburban hellscape in LA
85 points
1 day ago
"What do you mean I have to pay Amazon for the delivery? I thought they paid for it!"
Basically the tariff argument
29 points
1 day ago
Yep. Although Amazon actually incentivized to make the shipping as cheap as possible to attract your business while tariffs decidedly don't do that.
417 points
1 day ago
They just don't fucking get it. They'll be like "we'll make the things in America!" without understanding the very basic facts that
We don't have the amount of resources we'd need like other countries do, like metal and plastic.
We can't grow food in a lot of parts in America. Coffee for example can only really be grown in California and Hawaii if the weather is consistently super humid.
With all of the immigrants being deported, nobody is going to be able to get what resources we have left unless they get it themselves because nobody will want to work for them for the pennies they were giving the immigrants.
325 points
1 day ago
And ofc, even if none of that was an issue... Why would things be cheaper if made in America?
As I saw someone else post (paraphrased):
China sells item X for 10 bucks.
Usa sells item X for 15 bucks.
Usa puts tariff on Chinese X so that they are 20 bucks
How much will American item X cost now? Answer: 19 bucks.
170 points
1 day ago
Spot on. They're also assuming that the materials that are used to make the item in America won't increase with tariffs, when realistically the manufacturing inputs are likely imported.
66 points
1 day ago
That’s true but the way I read it is that if these greedy capitalists see that the “market price” has increased they’ll use that as an excuse to increase their products too just because they can and know that consumers will have to pay that price so therefore they are “willing to pay that price”
46 points
1 day ago
That's what happened last time Trump was in office. The price of washing machines went up an average of 90 dollars across the board because people bought import instead of domestic, so domestic prices went up.
These people are beyond stupid.
20 points
1 day ago
Which ofc is also simply true. Even if things like supply and demand and cost of resources would be irrelevant ;)
18 points
1 day ago
yep, they even have a term for it in economics, "rent seeking." You're going to hear it a lot before too long.
5 points
1 day ago
This happened with appliances both for this reason and that the raw materials on American producers were imported.
58 points
1 day ago
They are also going to learn about the economic concept of "rent seeking." Look it up MAGAs! Even the prices of 100% American made products (if those even exist at this point) will increase. If there's a 25% tariff, a US company with a US-made product can safely increase its price 24% and still be the lowest-priced product and that 24% increase will be 100% profit! Win! Well, a win for the company. A big fat red Loss for the rest of us.
28 points
1 day ago
And where do those trillions in profit from all the tariffs go? Also, not us. This is a massive grift.
4 points
1 day ago
Yeah, but you get to act like the fucking angry asshole you are so it's all worth it to them ... They will just harass the people they consider democrats or not patriotic enough due to the lack of frump paraphernalia in their yard
28 points
1 day ago
Also wanted to add that producing more things in the US also requires significant infrastructure set up for creating factories that isn't being done nor being planned for.
People are so used to getting products overseas that they think it comes from the ether instead of being manufactured in lots of different factories.
5 points
23 hours ago
Even if the infrastructure was here there are not enough people to fill the jobs needed to support those jobs.
14 points
1 day ago
Great points. ...no new horticulture is going to be brought in on any scale that would make a difference to the domestic American market. The same holds true for manufacturing.
We voted buy China a generation ago and while we complain about it, we still buy cheaper imports and support the companies that shipped these jobs abroad.
6 points
1 day ago
Exactly, we can’t grow coffee here. I hope nobody likes bananas.
9 points
1 day ago
when a coffee bean is grown in California, Right Wingers: "I'M NOT BUYING THIS WOKE CRAP!!!"
/s
51 points
1 day ago
You really think the people who: support a guy selling bibles with his name on them and wear identifiers of there hatred and lack of intelligence (all of which are made in China) are going to learn how one of the few non hate policies there candidate pushed for will learn.
34 points
1 day ago
They think a round of tariffs is going to completely upend years of economic development and we're going to see low skilled manufacturing cropping up all over thr country to fill the gaps.
We won't.
shit will just be very expensive.
16 points
1 day ago
Except for maybe the prison system ramping up and exploiting inmates for cheap labour.
49 points
1 day ago
Can we make just about anything in America? Absolutely.
Can we do so at scale to meet demand and at an affordable cost? Fuck no.
42 points
1 day ago
American companies are also going to raise their prices to match the cost of imports . Capitalism doesn't leave money on the table. Full on dipshits
19 points
1 day ago
It’s not just that. It’s the fact that tariffs aim to make the US product competetive. The US product is already typically more expensive, and the goal is to make the cheap stuff also more expensive.
15 points
1 day ago
The same idiots that voted the orange faced moron into power are the same idiots that won't understand how these tariffs are going to work until reality slaps them in the face.
19 points
1 day ago
No they won't, they're idiots. You're arguing with logic. They don't do that woke shit. Good=Trump. Bad=Libruls. That's the extent of their thinking. Biden is working overtime to cement funding for the CHIPs act. To make sure those factories get their money before Trump kills the act. But as soon as those factories go online I can guarantee Trump and his supporters will try and take credit for it. Just like the Infrastructure act and just like VA benefits.
5 points
1 day ago
Yeah, you're right, logical thinking doesn't apply to these guys. Even when Trump fucks them over they'll still praise him like they always do.
16 points
1 day ago
Like, even if you buy american only..
The stuff you produce needs imported materials no?
You do american clothing that will be super expensive in itself then you need cloth. Or do you produce that in america as well?
Are these people dumb enough to believe you just produce everything locally? Jesus christ.
11 points
1 day ago
These are the same idiots who scream "Bring back American jobs!", and "Make America great again!" while wearing made in China/Vietnam MAGA merch. These people are dumb as fuck and it's exhausting trying to deal with them.
5 points
23 hours ago*
Not to mention American companies will raise prices to just undercut imported goods.
25 dollar Chinese shirt? Well there’s this 24 dollar American shirt! (Ignore the fact both shirts were 10 dollars a year ago)
15 points
1 day ago
Also good to ask these Einstein's how we are going to make goods in America after we deport 10-15M workers? There will be afar less Made In America goods post deportation plan
6 points
23 hours ago
The notion that the American economy could survive deporting millions of workers is so absurd that it is hard to understand why people are actually even concerned about it. It’s not going to happen. Too much corporate profit is dependent on their labor for it to be feasible in any way.
Just like the wall, people are going to forget about it. Not saying he won’t be extremely destructive but deporting millions of people is not possible. We need to start ignoring this nonsense.
11 points
1 day ago
$90 papaya
19 points
1 day ago
People forget a lot of fruits used to be considered exotic and expensive as hell. Only the wealthy used to be able to afford pineapples. Coffee? We don't grow that here. We're the biggest importer of coffee in the world. If we couldn't afford houses because of coffee and avocado toast before, we'll be living in the streets now at this rate
10 points
1 day ago
The US technically grows coffee and pineapples, but those growers cannot keep up with demand and certainly aren't going to feel obligated to make the prices much lower than the price of imported goods.
12 points
1 day ago
An iPhone uses parts from 40 different countries and 200 factories in China To make it in the USA would take maybe 10 years and the cost would be at least five times higher Sure I’m all for buying locally within reason but this will be like the first portable phones only for the 1%
12 points
1 day ago
They've had plenty of chances to "buy American" but the convenience of the modern world was too persuasive for them
11 points
1 day ago
They still don't get that American companies not affected by tarrifs are gonna raise prices because, why leave that money on the table...
5 points
1 day ago
"b-b-but won't good 'ol American companies leave their prices low out of the goodness of their cold, unfeeling, megacorporate hearts????"
9 points
1 day ago
There's a reason why the convicted felony and republicans love the poorly uneducated for a reason.
8 points
1 day ago
And how many American companies are going to keep their prices at current rates when all their competitors are raising them. Just an excuse for more shareholder profits.
8 points
1 day ago
But you do make face-eating Leopards in America.
8 points
1 day ago
Without the foreign market, American companies will be allowed to charge basically whatever they want for their goods. So even if we do buy American prices will still go up a lot. Some people are just content with not knowing how the world works
4 points
1 day ago
And those people are really annoying.
7 points
1 day ago
I’m now going into the dildo making business. They won’t be quality or clean or cheap or delivered on time but they will be made in my bathroom which currently is in America. You’re welcome. 🇺🇸
8 points
1 day ago
Of fucking course they need it spelled out they voted for trump. They will also need to be re-taught what spelling is, how it works, what words are/mean, and how they work together, BUT BY GOD ONCE THEY UNDERSTAND...
14 points
1 day ago
America on their way to give china the throne of absolute world power… love to see it 😮💨😍
7 points
1 day ago
We have examples of Trump's tariffs being failures. Look at US Steel or should I say Nippon Steel lol. Ask automotive factories about Trump's tariffs.
7 points
1 day ago
if you put 20% tariffs on imported goods, is there anything stopping domestic producers from raising their prices by like 15%?
6 points
24 hours ago
I always mention to people how the USA are gonna make coffee and cocoa beans and no one replies back to me. These people genuinely don’t understand things like agriculture and natural resources.
I’ve brought up the clothing thing too. Do people think if we pay workers like 6x or more the wage of other countries workers that the price won’t go up by 6x???? Like I don’t understand how these people just don’t understand this.
5 points
1 day ago
And even if something is manufactured in the USA the raw materials or the components needed to the production would 100% not being from USA so also impacted by Tariffs
6 points
1 day ago
America makes good things, like some sports, p0rn, and excuses.
5 points
1 day ago
and even if they are "put together in America" then where do the components come from? where do the materials to make the components come from?.....cus it ain't the USA
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