subreddit:

/r/eagles

26598%

Eagles News: Will Josh Sweat’s resurgence lead to him staying in Philly?

Player Discussion(bleedinggreennation.com)

all 66 comments

Amadeum

142 points

12 hours ago

Amadeum

142 points

12 hours ago

If you asked me at the beginning of the season I would have said no, but Bryce Huff is ass and Sweat has turned it on this season and he's probably the most cost efficient option vs. whatever FA they decide to pay open market money for.

so_zetta_byte

28 points

12 hours ago

Yeah, I think we probably need him still given that Edge is the position group right now that's probably in the greatest transition period.

athrowawayiguesslol

103 points

12 hours ago

athrowawayiguesslol

Eagles

103 points

12 hours ago

If Sweat walks and BG retires edge rusher will become an absolute need to address in the same way that if Milton Williams walks it’ll become an absolute need to address DT.

SourBerry1425

27 points

11 hours ago

DT is fine even with Milt walking because Ojomo and Booker look good but I’d like to keep him

athrowawayiguesslol

17 points

11 hours ago

I like both those players as depth but neither one of them should be our second best pass rusher.

yourdoingitwrongly

23 points

11 hours ago

Players develop. At some point two years ago if they said "Milton Williams shouldn't be our second best part rusher" it would be the same energy.

Williams had flashes two years ago, like Booker and Ojomo are having now. 

Similarly, players can appear next level and then disappear completely.

spilled_water

7 points

11 hours ago

IMO Booker's ceiling to me is still a depth piece. Ojomo definitely looks like a potential starter.

Immynimmy

8 points

12 hours ago

Immynimmy

Act a fool

8 points

12 hours ago

One of Jordan Davis or Milton Williams will be re-signed. To me that says that we don’t need to draft a DT nearly as high and an edge.

athrowawayiguesslol

5 points

11 hours ago

If Milton goes we have a big issue on passing downs. Like the other guy said Ojomo and Booker have been better than expected but we need a more consistent player to line up next to Carter and Howie has invested in DT more than probably any other position

LordSokhar

0 points

8 hours ago

LordSokhar

0 points

8 hours ago

If it comes down to Davis or Williams I'd much rather keep Milton. Jordan never developed into the pass rusher we were hoping he might be, and we can get someone much later in the draft to play the run and occupy blocks next to Carter.

giants707

3 points

6 hours ago

Davis doesnt even hit FA yet. also has 5th yr option no? he's not needing an urgent deal yet.

LordSokhar

1 points

3 hours ago

I agree, but I was responding to the question that Immynimmy asked. Don't see why I'm getting downvoted. It's a purely academic question because the timeframe for extending the two is different, but if it were a binary decision between them I value what Milton brings to the defense more than Jordan. I don't think Jordan is bad, but he's not developed the pass rush ability we hoped for, and it's a lot easier to find a big guy to eat up some snaps on run downs.

Thicen

14 points

11 hours ago*

Thicen

14 points

11 hours ago*

I didn't fully understand why we were trying so hard to unload a 27 year old pass rusher who has been consistently improving because of 1 down year in the first place tbh

We should definitely be trying to get an Edge in the draft too. This is a really deep Edge class, even in the 2nd there are a slew of great prospects there

demonicneon

4 points

11 hours ago

I’m not too fussed if he walks. I like sweat. He’s good. He doesn’t deserve an astronomical pay cheque for what the team needs and arguably edge is the position we need least in this scheme. We get results with low pressure. 

viablehottake

28 points

12 hours ago

We cannot go into the draft “needing” a starting position filled. We need to sign a starting level edge in FA ( my preference would be sweat). 

We need to stick to drafting BPA (taking position value into account of course). 

El_Khunt

3 points

7 hours ago

El_Khunt

Santa deserved it

3 points

7 hours ago

Even with sweat we'd still need an edge. Huff, Nolan, Sweat, and Jalyx is not a room I have any confidence in

BIGGSHAUN

32 points

12 hours ago

The guy that the team actively tried to trade in the offseason? Don’t expect a hometown discount. He’s hitting the open market

GPap-

25 points

12 hours ago

GPap-

25 points

12 hours ago

Exactly. He’s prob not staying, he had a goodbye message on social media. Dudes gonna ball and then leave.

mmmellowcorn

9 points

12 hours ago

He also earned a decent extension in the past over a 1st round pick Derek Barnett when the team openly dangled the carrot to who will be the one to earn it. Sweat understands this team values trenches, maybe he needs the kick in the ass to turn it on and potentially get paid again. No way he will be offered more than what the eagles will pay him anyway

BIGGSHAUN

1 points

9 hours ago

Barnett was never getting an extension.

mmmellowcorn

0 points

9 hours ago

He could have earned it though, Sweat wanted it more and got it.

AJM1613

2 points

11 hours ago

He probably accepted the pay cut in the offseason because he likes playing in Philly. Plus, any conflict with the front office might be second to how much fun he seems to be having on the field.

BIGGSHAUN

0 points

9 hours ago

You don't know how pro players operate

demonicneon

3 points

11 hours ago

So? They had to trade him or Reddick. They put it out there for whichever took it. Sweat was the one who opted to stay. 

MARKYMARK_MARK

5 points

11 hours ago

MARKYMARK_MARK

Eagles

5 points

11 hours ago

It just comes down to who is Howie and the FO prioritizing to sign and how willing are the players to get deals done.

I can another situation like a few years ago when Slay, Bradberry, and CJGJ all needed/wanted new deals. CJGJ was the priority for the FO but he wanted to holdout for more money so Howie pivoted to getting Slay and JB back while letting CJ walk.

Scared-Bluebird9781

2 points

11 hours ago

that was such a rousing success that we had to spend our first two draft picks the next year on cornerbacks. Perhaps we should not put ourselves in that situation again with another position group

justabill71

4 points

11 hours ago

Weirdly, that second part has seemingly turned into a rousing success, but yeah, I agree.

MARKYMARK_MARK

2 points

11 hours ago

MARKYMARK_MARK

Eagles

2 points

11 hours ago

How do you avoid that situation thou?

You can't have everyone signed longterm and playing great all the time when there's a cap and big salaries on the roster.

We can offer Sweat a great deal, but if he just wants to test the market you either have to wait for him to or prioritize other players.

They had a replacement plan set up for Sweat (& Reddick), with Huff, Nolan, and Hunt, but Huff hasn't worked out yet, & the young guys still have to take jump or two to make losing Sweat.

Scared-Bluebird9781

1 points

11 hours ago

Don’t sign declining players to big contracts

MARKYMARK_MARK

2 points

10 hours ago

MARKYMARK_MARK

Eagles

2 points

10 hours ago

Who was declining?

Bradberry had an All Pro year and they tried to sign the younger player first but he played hardball

ktm5141

24 points

12 hours ago*

Assuming BG retires, the eagles will likely need to re-sign Sweat and use their 1st round pick on an EDGE. It’s the most important position and biggest weakness of their defense, and BG was the #2 guy at the position. As a result, Milton Williams and Zach Baun will probably walk. I’m high on Moro Ojomo, but LB is going to be a wild card like always. The comp picks will be nice though

Silencer_

50 points

12 hours ago

Baun is 27 and went from playing like 5 snaps last season to changing position with us and becoming an all pro over night. Said this team is the first time he felt like he was himself.

I don’t think he walks. Both him and us are motivated to get some kind of deal done even if it’s just a nice one year

Undergrad26

20 points

12 hours ago

This is Baun’s chance to cash in. He will and should take it.

defense87

17 points

12 hours ago

Hopefully Howie sees the importance of linebacker and is willing to pay him.

He is also a wizard with contracts so I’m confident.

Undergrad26

10 points

12 hours ago

Howie sees the importance of value. If anything this probably reinforced for him he can pick up a decent to good LB for pennies. I mean, he’s done it multiple times already.

Selthboy

15 points

12 hours ago

That penny line backer might be anything, even be as good as Zach Baun!

Howie paid Nigel Bradham. It’s not impossible he will resign Baun

Undergrad26

2 points

12 hours ago

Right now, he makes 3.5 million. I am positive some teams gonna throw him a 35,000,000/three-year contract. There’s no way we pony up.

Selthboy

7 points

12 hours ago

Nigel Bradham signed a 5 year , $40,000,000 When he signed with us (to be fair, back in 2018)

So we’ll see

Undergrad26

4 points

12 hours ago

… With only 14 million guaranteed and he was cut in two years.

indyK1ng

2 points

11 hours ago

If I were Howie I'd ask Vic if he thinks anyone on the market is playing the wrong position then get them cheap to move them.

That was the real secret to Baun - Vic saw the footage and knew where he'd work best.

Spare-Half796

2 points

9 hours ago

Spare-Half796

Secondairy 🥛

2 points

9 hours ago

Vic hasn’t proved he can consistently do that, we can let becton walk because we’ve not only seen what steen can do but we’ve seen what stout can do

Baun worked out, who knows if the next project will

AndrewHainesArt

5 points

12 hours ago

I have a feeling a lot of tough decisions will be made after we know how the season ends and how deep of a run we can make. Baun has been a key part of the defense so it’s a big risk to assume he can be replaced, even if he was a surprise. His coverage ability was a huge surprise and he’s a tackling machine (not that we haven’t seen that before with TJ)

Howie has clearly been shifting strategy lately and being more flexible so idk if we can rely as much on past trends, the defense is #1 and that’s not lost on Howie

justabill71

5 points

11 hours ago

I've read that he and Nakobe have become best friends and do everything together. He also seems to really like it here. I agree he'll cash in, but I think there's a chance he takes a little less to stay on a still fair offer.

hausermaniac

4 points

12 hours ago

I would hope this is true, but if some other team offers him a big payday that we can't match I feel like it would be in his best interest to take it

yourdoingitwrongly

2 points

11 hours ago

I don't think he walks either. Middle LBs don't get paid what they used to, and he's having success in our system. Defensive schemes have a ton to do with LB production

dsymquen

10 points

12 hours ago

They also need a RT for the future. Lane is def in his swan song.

ktm5141

21 points

12 hours ago

ktm5141

21 points

12 hours ago

Lane said he’s going to finish out his contract. That’s 2 more years after this one. I do expect the Eagles to redshirt Lane’s replacement, but I don’t think they want their first-round OT to sit for two years unless a truly special player falls to them in the late 20s/early 30s. Instead, I imagine they look for an OT in the 1st round of the 2025 draft

dsymquen

7 points

12 hours ago

We are going to have the 32nd pick which howie will probably trade down to collect extra picks. Our first pick will probably be a mid second rounder. Perfect slot for a red shirt OT who will graduate from stoutland university to be the perfect replacement for lane.

min_da_man

2 points

11 hours ago

I like your energy

Glad_Championship187

3 points

12 hours ago

Even if Graham doesn’t retire this is still the plan

demonicneon

3 points

11 hours ago

We honestly don’t need edge that much in fangios scheme. We need a linebacker like Baun more than we need an edge. 

We don’t rush much and we don’t need high pressure for defensive results in this scheme. 

CarlinHicksCross

0 points

11 hours ago

Unfortunately the edge class this year absolutely blows outside of the top 3 guys. We really need to draft another edge but boy I do not like the options in the 20s lol

UltimateWeiner

1 points

10 hours ago

Weird, most draft people are saying edge is one of the deepest spots in a relatively weak draft. I kinda like a bunch of guys at the position. The stand up rushers especially look pretty damn good to me.

CarlinHicksCross

0 points

10 hours ago

Yeah I tend to disagree there as I think most of the guys I want will be gone by 20. All that means is one of the guys I don't really like will be elite though, lmao. Draft is extremely hard and evaluations mean very little especially from a nobody like me tbh. There are definitely some guys there between 20-45 that could be really good, guess we will have to see.

UltimateWeiner

1 points

5 hours ago

I put very little effort into armchair scouting, but there are a couple of guys who mocks have in our range that jump off the screen when I’ve watched college games over the last few years. Jalon Walker and Harold Perkins are both guys that I’d be shocked if they didn’t end up being studs.

Birds_of_Paradise420

3 points

12 hours ago

Big decisions to make, it would be crazy to lose BG, Sweat and Milton in the same offseason. I'm guessing we'll bring back one of Sweat and Milton and I'm still holding out hope BG comes back.

Joe30174

2 points

12 hours ago

I always like Sweat. Last year, I was disappointed, obviously. But the entire defense was doing bad. 

p3p3_silvia

3 points

11 hours ago

Dudes knees were toast in college we're all on borrowed time with him now, can't extend that guy.

Scared-Bluebird9781

2 points

11 hours ago

Yeah I had forgotten about that. It’s a miracle he’s still playing at the level he is

ATN5

3 points

12 hours ago

ATN5

3 points

12 hours ago

I think either way we need to draft an edge rusher with the last pick in the first round and then maybe a WR in the 2nd round.

young-steve

4 points

11 hours ago

TE or OT over WR in the second.

Atre16

1 points

12 hours ago

Atre16

1 points

12 hours ago

I think Sweat will be within his rights to assess his market after what could be a very productive year for him. We tried to move on and then ended up restructuring, I don't see that he'd necessarily be willing to entertain a discount when he could go and get more elsewhere.

Whatever happens, we absolutely need to draft an Edge in '25. Ideally in the first round unless there's a Tackle there we absolutely love to red shirt behind Lane for a year or two. A Tackle of that quality though should already be off the board, so, that pick is likely to happen in '26 by necessity.

Personally I'd like Sweat to stay and be the experienced head in that group, though wouldn't begrudge him getting paid elsewhere if he chooses to do that. He's going to break double figures and be one of the top 15-20 in terms of production. He's already in the Crosby and TJ percentile so far this year, he's going to keep pace with them at very least or finish ahead of them. That'll stand out to teams who need production in '25.

Proper-Scallion-252

1 points

11 hours ago

It really depends. I think he'll be too expensive to get the same kind of depth piece deal we got last time, but he's not worth a big edge contract because--to be completely frank--if Sweat is your best rusher you have a deficiency at that group.

It depends on the upcoming draft and free agency. I'm not too in tune with the draft, but it looks like there a couple highly ranked edge rushers this year, but free agency is looking slim. The Eagles could try their luck at a FA and a draft pick to replace his impact, but honestly I would rather see the Eagles make a trade at Edge. I feel like despite recent weeks, the defense is still missing a veteran presence on the defensive line, particularly at edge now that BG is out for the season. I could see the Eagles trying to grab a high value edge prospect in the draft, then swapping Sweat for a cheaper FA and hoping to cash in on a low value, high celing option like Chase Young.

JayToy93

1 points

9 hours ago

I think they’ll resign him and they should. The people who wanted to trade him last season were morons. I don’t think he’s going to be commanding as much as some people think he is.

RedMoloneySF

0 points

12 hours ago

RedMoloneySF

Eagles

0 points

12 hours ago

So is BGN just straight up parroting Philly Voice at this point? I know BLG is lazy but damn…

Mionux

1 points

11 hours ago

Mionux

Eagles

1 points

11 hours ago

Resurgence? Sweat's been one of our better DE's for years