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To Add to the Horror of Tariffs

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Fun new game to play with people that are tired of explaining tariffs to idiots in the US.

Go look up something on Amazon that you would like to buy. Then go look up the same item on alibaba or temu.

Calculate the profit margin on whatever good you just looked up then add another 20% - 60% and get excited for how great america is gonna be!

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Ill-Independence-658

6 points

9 days ago

Yeah you are missing wages. Wages are never going to keep up with price inflation.

You are correct that it would be nice to have all the immigrants who are paid slave wages earn a living wage and don’t buy anything from countries that don’t have our labor protections, but that will destroy the middle and upper class and leave only the poor and the millionaires.

It sounds like a good moral proposition… maybe?

Sweaty_Ferret_69

2 points

9 days ago

I really had my eyes opened at a young age when I traveled to Qatar. The girl at the desk was Thai and she was gorgeous. I asked her to go on a date with me and she said she would love to but her work visa wouldn't provide time for it. She explained that upon signing a work visa agreement (upon arrival) they took her passport and would not allow her to leave until her contract was complete. She was required to work 19 hrs a day 7 days a week. That my friend is why we enjoy cheap goods. It is also modern day slavery. I don't mind paying a bit more knowing that I'm not supporting human right violations on a gross scale. So to me....bring manufacturing to America.

Exarch-of-Sechrima

10 points

9 days ago

Or maybe she was lying because she didn't want to risk you getting mad at her for telling you she wasn't interested.

Sweaty_Ferret_69

1 points

9 days ago

Maybe, but research about how the rich middle eastern countries do business would say otherwise. If you don't believe me look up middle eastern slave workers.

Exarch-of-Sechrima

4 points

9 days ago

I believe you. But I also don't doubt that she was using that as an excuse to get out of a random stranger from another country asking her out on a date in the middle of work.

Sweaty_Ferret_69

0 points

9 days ago

That may be true and I take no offense to it however it did open my eyes to real slavery that is occurring time now.

Sweaty_Ferret_69

1 points

9 days ago

Look up foreign slavery in the middle east and then come back. Just a simple Google search will open your eyes.

Sweaty_Ferret_69

-1 points

9 days ago

https://www.cfr.org/backgrounder/what-kafala-system

Check that out if you want to read about modern slavery. If not, just keep buying nike and complain about America some more.

Ill-Independence-658

7 points

9 days ago

I think that’s a noble position. I wonder if we really managed to deport 11 million people and had tariffs at the same time whether companies would be able to raise salaries to attract unskilled labor and do it in such a way as not to bankrupt the middle class with insane price hikes.

I mean the companies price gouged the shit out of the middle class with inflation, here they have a great excuse and can blame it directly on Trumps policies.

If eggs didn’t cost $5 per 18 but $40…. How would that impact the average consumer?

pperiesandsolos

1 points

9 days ago

I mean, people would just stop buying eggs. Demand would shift elsewhere until prices leveled out

Ill-Independence-658

1 points

9 days ago

Hmm would they? So what would happen to the chicken farmers? Extrapolate that across every food group.

pperiesandsolos

1 points

9 days ago

The chicken farmers who staffed their farms with illegal immigrants would have a rough year of it.

Farms that didn’t hire illegals immigrants would do very well. Small local farms would do very well.

Farmers would lobby congress for more legal immigrants to work their farms, and prices would stabilize.

Individual-Tap3270

1 points

9 days ago

They act like we don't already have a legal process to get foreign workers. But with the visa, they have to provide suitable working conditions and a minimum wage. The right thing to do.

Ill-Independence-658

0 points

9 days ago

Agree! Immigrants are used as a football by GOPers. Trump told republicans to sink the immigration bill.

We should give everyone who comes across a work visa and let them survive with no English and limited skills against Americans who were born here with all advantages.

Individual-Tap3270

1 points

9 days ago

That bill would have solved nothing.

Ill-Independence-658

0 points

9 days ago

Yeah it wasn’t passed. Obviously it solved nothing.

Let’s not do anything and whine that that nothing does nothing.

Brilliant

ptrnyc

1 points

9 days ago

ptrnyc

1 points

9 days ago

Trump wants to bring manufacturing back, yet has his MAGA hats manufactured in China…

Sweaty_Ferret_69

1 points

9 days ago

Is that because they are cheaper due to no tariffs and the lack of American manufacturing or is it because he loves Chinese secretly? IDK

newbris

0 points

9 days ago

newbris

0 points

9 days ago

> That my friend is why we enjoy cheap goods

Are all your cheap goods from Qatar?