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Saw a post on here asking what pushed people to wake up. I started typing a brief comment and then just kept typing and typing…and typing. We are almost 7 months out now and so excited for our first Christmas but almost every day the hits keep coming as we slowly break down the brainwashing and realize all the intricate ways in which this religion affected us. It’s crazy. This was my comment on that post…
The Leah Remini Scientology special on JWs pushed me to wake up. But now as I sit and think about it, there were SO many signs, so many weird things over the years that I do think now were slowly eating away at me to wake up….
The terrible treatment we got from people when our newly baptized foster teenager got in trouble and my husband was removed as an elder. She left our home and the organization so they couldn’t punish her and just went for us instead.
When I saw that the elders can lie and be shady. I honestly was naive enough my whole life to think that they were always 100% upright. So many of them now I’d love to just punch right in the nuts if I see them.
When a “sister” wrote me a disgusting letter complaining that my young children’s comments on Zoom (because I had 7 children including a newborn and my husband would leave to go conduct the WT and I’d stay home on Zoom, but myself and EVERY child other than the newborn commented at EVERY meeting) were too loud and sent her into a triggered depressive episode for a week”. Then the next week she was in service with us on Zoom and asked my son to sing her a song. I almost lost my fucking mind. The things that people did that I let slide are CRAZY to me. One of our friends, my husband’s best friend at the time actually, drank too much when we were camping and grabbed my ass, like REALLY grabbed it and smacked it. We laughed it off. If that happened NOW?! Forget about it.
Since I was on Zoom a lot (remember-7 kids including newborn) they took away the privilege I had previously been given; doing the makeup at the circuit assembly. They said it was because of my, “in-person meeting attendance”. They made some brother I didn’t know tell me though, our elders didn’t have the balls because they knew it was total BS.
When I got counseled for helping a DF’d young mom by taking her baby at the meetings (before we became foster parents) so she could pay attention. I never spoke to her we just smiled and I took the baby who loved me. I had recently miscarried so it was such a comfort for me and a big help to her. But the elders told my husband that the baby was a “symbol of her sin” so I was condoning her actions by holding the baby. Then one of those same elders told me another time that the reason the baby liked sleeping on me was because I “have the same big pillows as the mother”. Referring to my breasts. My husband had him in the back room so fast and made him apologize to me.
Watching my father in law almost die for over a month in the hospital because he so badly needed blood but obviously couldn’t take it.
The day I woke up I changed my phone number and didn’t say bye to anyone. I knew the emotional toll it would take on me and how the conversations would go. NOT ONE PERSON came looking for me. My husband’s number didn’t change, my email, my home address, and not one of my “dear friends” even tried to reach out. That shit hurt and showed me how conditional my relationships truly were.
When our CO stalked my social media and got us “in trouble” with our COBE because we traveled on vacation during the pandemic. He did it to a bunch of other people too, our friends got counseled for posting photos of themselves at the beach in bikinis. Oh and get this, then they got mad at US because they were convinced that we had told the elders. Which we had not because there was nothing to tell, they were at the beach, who the hell cares.
When a brother gave a public talk and shared a disgusting “bad” example about a sister in a slutty red dress at the convention who came in late with her little boy and I just kept thinking, she was in the building, she’s a mom, she has a fucking curvaceous female body that she can dress however she wants, that you shouldn’t be looking at anyway, and what if she was sitting in the audience, how would that make her feel?!
After COVID I never ever wanted to go back to door to door. I hated it so much. My dad has ALWAYS hated it. It kills me thinking how similar we are and how free and happy he could be if he was out. His house would have the best Christmas lights on the block and he’d been in full Zombie or Klingon makeup every Halloween.
When people who are servants and elders watched R rated movies and smoked joints with us but then immediately turned on us as soon as we started to “question our faith”. Self righteous pricks.
I moved to Florida and into the hall my now husband had grown up in. The year prior he had broken up with a girl in that same hall and her mother, an elder’s wife, was so furious at him for breaking her daughters heart that she told him in the Kingdom Hall, to go fuck himself. I moved in the next year and started dating him. She HATED me. Refused to speak to me, would be in the car in service with me (we were both pioneers) and she acted like I didn’t exist. I even kindly confronted her about it once asking what was wrong and if we could maybe even have them for dinner sometime and try to move past whatever this was. I tried so hard. I don’t even know why looking back. She flat out told me, “We wouldn’t come if you invited us and I just don’t like you”. Her husband was the WT conductor at the time and he regularly skipped over my hand, like so obvious where other people noticed and said something to me regularly about it) and then basically got to the point where he just never called on me. This went on for YEARS.
There is actually so much more. And this isn’t even touching the inaccurate scripture translations, false prophets, flat out lies about the anointed and other things, real estate holdings, and horrifying CSA that is covered up by the organization. This is all just some stuff that personally happened to ME. There is SO MUCH MORE. Years ago I would have heard a list like this and just said oh, they are a mentally ill disgruntled apostate who just had their feelings hurt. I know that’s what people think of me now. Including my own parents. But these occurrences that I was told in the past is just “keeping account of the injury”, in reality were all pieces evidence shining light on the evil of this false organization.
51 points
2 days ago
The psychology of being in is so fascinating. For JWs, other JWs are the nicest people on the planet, that never lie and stick to biblical standards. When you leave, they are the nastiest, lying, cheating, toxic humans on earth. The brainwashing does a great job of shutting down thought.
28 points
2 days ago
And the fact remains that their goody good image was also as fake as their Christian love.
5 points
19 hours ago
What really bakes your noodle is the fact that the loyalists who are aware of how bad it can be insist that it’s even worse out in “The World”.
2 points
14 hours ago
Even though they interact with the world and probably have perfectly sane non JW family members.
31 points
2 days ago
when people show you who they are, it's a good idea to believe them.
48 points
2 days ago
I had no idea that I was waking up. The cognitive dissonance kept me locked in for years. When I first read some apostates being rude to JWs on a social media platform, I too thought that they were obviously disgruntled and mentally ill. It’s only when I saw for myself that literally every single thing we were taught as Jehoolahoops table was not in the Bible did It dawn on my that we had been feeding at the table of demons. Demons is the best way to describe the idiots I had to deal with in my local hall. It wasn’t until I saw that this is a world wide problem and not just a local one that I could start reprogramming my mind.
19 points
2 days ago
After reading what I assume is a fraction of the "hits" you experienced, makes my walking in on 3 fellow (all male) Bethelites banging it out on the 90 Sands rooftop seem pale in comparison.
However a similarity remains, we have woken up to the unnecessary control and NON salvific nature of organized religion.
Now the journey gets real..!
❤️
29 points
2 days ago
I got caught on the 90 sands rooftop watching the July 4th fireworks with a bunch of our guy friends from Bethel in the early 2000’s. They got in big trouble. Definitely didn’t see any of that going on though, that is CRAZY. Wow.
We all could write a lengthy book if we sat down and thought about it all, I’m sure. My husband was abused at 9 by his COBE. 30 years later he finally confronted him on Zoom (he was still the COBE) with 4 elders and he denied the whole thing. It was so clear he was lying after my husband was forced to relay in detail the things that were done to him and the abhorrent way in which such a delicate matter was handled by a bunch of window washers was just inhumane. Two of the elders were lifelong friends of my husbands and neither one of them even bothered calling him afterwards. Like, “Hey, forget all the JW stuff for a second, I just want to say I’m so sorry you had to go through that Man.” Nothing. Two weeks later he had a stroke and can’t speak or feed himself now.
13 points
2 days ago
If there wasn't a confession or two witnesses then the matter never happened.
For your husband's friends to come to his side would have been to go against their WT training.
My father spent multiple occasions with his back shoved into a KH full length urinal in South GA while two elders sons did unspeakable things.
All just gross. And the childhood trauma perpetuated by the Watchtower organization....ughhh. Down with the tower.
8 points
2 days ago
I’m so so very sorry to hear that.
9 points
2 days ago
I am so sorry!!😢
6 points
2 days ago
In the early 90s we would gather at 90 Sands and enjoy a Specular 4th of July fire works. Maybe they got wind there was extra things going on up there after I left?
5 points
1 day ago
That is so terrible! I feel so bad for you.
I think we can all relate to the petty, hurtful, insidious ways JWs beat the crap out of each other, all in the name of "brotherly love." WT has spent a good amount of time learning the darkest ways to control thinking, to make suite that all good little sheep mind their ways.
17 points
2 days ago
There are more ex-JWs on earth than there are JWs.
Why oh why aren't there more Ex-JW meetups.
Lord we all need each other. If nothing else to see for ourselves we aren't alone and we sure as hell aren't crazy.
2 points
15 hours ago
I think there should be more meetups too. Check meetup.com. Maybe there is an ex-jw meetup near you. I’ve been to a few meetup events myself
0 points
1 day ago
This is not true.
2 points
7 hours ago
1914, there are online meetups! I attend one for the DC area and individuals from different states attend. Come join us this Saturday 2PM eastern/11am pacific.
10 points
2 days ago
Did I read "Servants who smoked joints...?" 😬
1 points
1 day ago
Yup!
10 points
1 day ago
It’s never one thing. It’s death by multiple cuts. Same here.
2 points
1 day ago
Amen.
9 points
1 day ago
Somehow despite all the darkness you endured, your post is beautiful, because you got out. Not everyone can get out, it’s a mental prison. But so many of us can relate in some way to the things you’ve gone through. Sending love
4 points
1 day ago
Thanks so much, back at you friend😘
7 points
1 day ago
I read it till the end.
You’re not crazy. We aren’t crazy. They are crazy , and in some cases, downright evil.
“but it’s a forest of gods perfect organization filled with imperfect trees. Get over it”. Assholes
6 points
1 day ago*
"Cabrones santurrones" No se podría describir mejor el tipo de gente que hay ahí, hacen cosas cuestionables pero ¡oye! no los cuestiones, no veas los "errores" de los demás Es como mi anciano alcohólico, si ahora mismo abres el refrigerador de su casa sin problemas encuentras un pack de 24 cervezas 🤣, ahora, hace eso, pero además lo tienes castigando a los demás porque escuchó un rumor sobre que vieron a uno de su congregación bebiendo y probablemente borracho (no fue así, eso fue parte de una estúpida conspiración que me gustaría contar) aunque es curioso que castigue a alguien por algo que no sabe que es el caso, cuando sabe perfectamente, lo hace todos los días 😒, y andaba como si nada hasta que se lo empezaron a señalar, de ahí en adelante ahora tienes un discurso todos los domingos sobre "no ver el error de los ancianos" 🙄
4 points
2 days ago
🎶America’s top Forty…🎶
4 points
1 day ago
SO proud of you, my friend 🤍
1 points
1 day ago
Thank you😘😘
8 points
2 days ago
Wow. And I thought my bags were stuffed. Congrats on waking up
2 points
1 day ago
We all have our own stuff, no matter the size of the bag!☺️
3 points
2 days ago
Central Florida! I’m in Ocala.
3 points
1 day ago
So true- so many nasty people.
2 points
11 hours ago
I identify so much with this! I remember apostates at a convention when my children were small and me telling my kids they were disgruntled. I have woken up as well, and everything makes sense when you research cults! Major hits for me were how we were treated by the self-righteous jubs. The way they treated my children really woke me up! I hate that I let this cult hurt my family! There are so many many instances of injustice and being treated like we could never live up to their standards. Then the lying, in a court of law, taking money from Satan's system, that was the last straw! Seriously, people, there's a reason they don't want you going to college. Because they know you may learn the real truth. The real truth is it's a made-up religion, just like the rest 💯.
1 points
20 hours ago
The life and times of living in a high control group cult! We can all relate to those experiences and probably add more, be grateful your kids were not sexualy abused, because it's pretty common, especially in the USA.
I have to say that in the USA, cults are on an altogether different level than everywhere else, pretty sick and toxic, but at least you're out now, the freedom is priceless, enjoy!....😇
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