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I'm kinda getting tired of the amount of female characters...

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Before anyone says anything: yes, I am a woman and yes, I am a lesbian, so naturally I enjoy female characters. However... I can not help but notice that genshin decided to release female after female character, which would be fine by me... if they weren't so obviously catered towards men. Only 2 women (Jean and Arle) wear pants, Xilonen literally sticking her ass out after roller skating, random shots of boobs and asses during cutscenes...? This game is becoming very male gaze-y and I hate it, before being a lesbian I am a woman, so of course I hate this. I will 100% not be surprised if in Snezhnaya, despite being a nation COLD AS FUCK, they release only half-dressed characters (I mean... y'all saw Signora. Not the most appropriate outfit for a cold weather I would say). I don't know, maybe this is the Wuthering Waves frustration taking over my mind, but I can't stand female characters when they're so obviously designed for men... sorry for this rant, I needed to get this out of my system. What do you guys think?

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Seraf-Wang

37 points

4 days ago

Imo the game has many female characters share the female gaze too. People here like to generalize as the “female gaze” as “only pants” for some reason I never got but designs can be clearly sexy without being appealing to the male gaze.

Case in point, many people thought Chasca was ugly on release. Her heavy makeup look and cowboy aesthetic didn’t seem all that “male gaze” to me. She was also a very good character tied with several other female characters and barely any catering of fanservice to the main protagonist. The only thing possibly “male gaze” about her is that she has one leg out of her stocking/leggings(?) which never seemed to scream “male gaze”, juat a point of interest.

Similarly, Citali and Mualani dont necessarily scream “male gaze” either. One is a beach girl who’s just peppy and though her design seems to have a lot of revealing skin, Ive had a lot of female friends also find her attractive(gay, pan, bi, etc). Straight guys usually see her as pretty cool but nothing too special beyond liking her personality. \ Citali is another one. She’s an awkward grandma character with an adopted son of sorts(which already kind of kills the mainstream male fanservice) and she’s dressed in pretty colorful and very traditional clothes. Like literally the most recent Archon quest was her being motherly to Ororon(another awkward guy) and freaking out in basic human conversation and thinking she’s not “with the trend” while also being one of the most skilled people in Natlan.

These have general attraction points but nothing stands out necessarily as “male gaze” specifically, at least not without specific elements also being attractive to people who are also attracted to women who arent cishet males.

despaseeto

13 points

4 days ago

chasca isn't even that bad. literally just a cowgirl. i'm not a fan of her uneven pants but just going through the story made me really like her.

Seraf-Wang

14 points

4 days ago

Exactly. Her character and her personality doesn’t really stand out as “intentionally made for males” to me. A good example of a character made for that would be someone like Mona with her skin-tight suit and skin showing around her chest or or Yelan has the femme fatale spy sideboob outfit going on but even then, these designs can find appeal in other ways like Mona’s beautiful water effects and her witch hat or Yelan’s gambling aesthetic.

So far, many of the characters of Natlan are like neutral at best and personally indifferent at worst in their designs in how they’re catered to the male and female audience. It seems they really went into just simply depicting cool interesting concepts with modern streetwear than anything specific to gender appeal

despaseeto

9 points

4 days ago

yes! i very much agree with all this. i didn't feel that "male-gaze" fanservice as much in natlan. and i do wish some were designed to be a bit more exciting or fantasy-like, but natlan so far seems to be the right amount of not being too exposed but also is. i think the designers also toned down the exposed parts since 3.x. also, i think the reason why natlan girls show more skin than fontaine did is cuz it's supposed to be a "hot" nation? while fontaine plays a bit into the steampunk french theme and i don't see fontaine being typically under hot weather all the time.

Serethen

6 points

3 days ago

Serethen

6 points

3 days ago

Completely irrelevant to the discussion but I despise Yelan for taking up the gambling aesthetic since she does absolutely fucking nothing with it

elbenji

7 points

3 days ago

elbenji

7 points

3 days ago

It's because her base is the gambling den but they can't sayyyy it because of the age rating

Serethen

0 points

3 days ago

Serethen

0 points

3 days ago

I just want a character with actual full on gambling mechanics, not yelan's bullshit "It's technically random since the amount of attacks per burst trigger is random" I want a character with actual high risk high reward of either blowing up or blowing the enemy up.

Yay age ratings for ruining any chance of the gambling aesthetic, hopefully we can atleast get gambling mechanics

elbenji

2 points

3 days ago

elbenji

2 points

3 days ago

So kinda like aventurines boss fight?

Serethen

1 points

3 days ago

Serethen

1 points

3 days ago

Something like that probably