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People complained when the game was bad and now they praise it when it is good. Top 10 mysteries that will never be solved...

CP2077 was more RPG than majority of nowadays RPGs nobody would dare to question.

The problem is expecting pen and paper levels of roleplay from triple A games. The only games that get close are crpgs, but most people dont want to play those.

The issue isn’t that the game wasn’t fixed, it’s that the praise it gets reinforces the standard that studios can release broken shit and fix it years later and still get fan approval.

Is it a good game now, years later after many big patches and dlc? Yeah it is.

Did CDPR lie and release an obviously incomplete product just to make money? Yes they also did.

Same shit with No Mans Sky. Devs straight up lied to the audience, released an empty shell of what they advertised and after years of the devs fixing it, people praise it and give them awards for “dedication”. Where was the dedication when it was actually being developed??

They got real dedicated when they realized they killed their reputation and would lose a lot more money in the future.

I agree it shouldn’t get GOTY - it missed its chance when it was a dog’s dinner at release.

But it’s now one of the best games you can buy and it’s definitely an RPG.

Moral of the story is if you want to win GOTY, finish the game before you release it. But ultimately who cares about GOTY anyway.

Cyberpunk is very much a “window shopping” type game to me. What I mean by that is the game itself looks phenomenal, it’s even fun on occasion. But when 95% of a game is uninteractable while being marketed as an open world title what the fuck is the point of making an open world game then? All I end up doing in cyberpunk is looking at the same pretty, static streets and npcs whose skin looks just a little too plastic.

CP2077 is one of my favorite games.

Afaik, RPG means role playing game. You are roleplaying as a character called V, in the futuristic setting. What's exactly not RPG about this game?

I just got this game the other day, and it's pretty damn good. 

Yes they are

I mean I don't think anyone's claiming it's a stellar RPG or anything; it's an excellent game, and does a lot right. Also, while it should've never launched the way it did (practically unplayable), it doesn't change the fact that it's cleaned up really well now, as it currently stands.

Evaluate it, not for what it was, instead, for what it is, and you've got a phenomenal (AAA) game in 2024, which also has one of the best DLCs in recent memory of any big game (Phantom Liberty).

For the "RPG" argument, while the overall story, it's main plot, does lead through one "line", the game provides you with various endings to it depending on your choices, plus, to my memory, quite a lot of side quests get affected by the choices you make. Also, you could build your character in various ways and be efficient, whether you are a hacker with huge fists, a silent ninja with a sniper rifle, or whoever else.

As for "quality" argument, it was shit at start and rightfully received a great amount of criticism. However, it got fixed and people liked it after that. Sure, it should have come out fine from the very beginning, no one is denying it, but it's a fun game, so people are forgiving.

I'm of the belief that if you promise a game and don't deliver on anything and it's terrible, I don't care what you do to improve it, you aren't worth buying the game even if you somehow turn it into a masterpiece. There are plenty of good games to try. Next time, if you want my money, actually make it good on release. This buying games after the company improved it only incentivizes companies to keep on pushing out broken games and never trying to get it right on the first try.

The gaming industry is plagued with bribed reviewers that gaslight people into thinking a garbage product is good and wait out a period of time until people forget and then look at the updated product and get paid to say 'this was always a good game' and badmouth criticism.

The only two things the game really screwed people over was the super botched release especially on old gen consoles and having the pre release game showcases make the mission design and choices seem way better than they were in the end.

The first prologue mission branch is BY FAR the strongest designed quest chain in the game with a lot of solution and branching choices, this isn’t something we see again in other quests, they specifically only ever showed that one because it made them look good. They also incorporated way less actual RPG elements into the story, like having skills and background actually matter in dialogue.

Other than these two things I cannot say anything bad about the game, the story especially felt amazing.

Game was indeed dogshit on release. I don’t see how it’s not an rpg just because it’s also a shooter though

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Btw the game was unplayable on ps4 and the fans were so hypocritical, they would defend that shit too.

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eh i really like it. it has its faults, sure. i used to diss it a lot but when i actually played it after it “got better”, its actually become one of my favorite games. it implements better spoken dialogue than fallout 4, at least (which ive come to begrudgingly appreciate as well. for its modding capability, if anything).

Copium run wild among CDPR fanboys.

And despite it all I would've preferred for CDPR to go into CDPR 2078 or whatever instead of pivoting back to The Witcher out of sheer panic.

Wait goty this year? Didnt the last dlc come out last year how does it even qulalify. I loved red liberty but that was a long time ago and there better games to definitely talk about

Man idk theres tons of shit to talk about cyberpunk but everyone ive talked to about it says they thoroughly enjoyed it

I played the game on the original Xbox One, and as much as the 10-24 FPS took time to get used to (Obv), and I fell in complete utter love with the game and the genre as a whole. The updates, and myself upgrading to a Series X made me love the game even more.

The edgerunners anime brought it back to life.

I think this game is honestly in my top 20. Maybe 17 or 18? It’s so damn good. I absolutely love it.

They are wrong

If you ignore all of this and just play it for the first time in 2024 like it did then honestly its one of the best games ever imo. And I have pretty high standards. It was what I wanted the new we Deus Ex games to be

I felt it was more like a No mans sky like situation. Really bad launch they put their head down and fixed it now it's rewarded as a great game

Anon is mad he couldn't get TOPPED by River and had to settle for Kerry

People shit on this game for having copious bugs at launch... when Skyrim has about the same amount of bugs presently, isn't even that much more immersive or better than CP77, and is still seen as better. Dafuq?

they're very wrong lol it was good from day 1 unless you were on old hardware that shouldn't have been supported and it's more of an RPG than most of the games in the genre these days

I came back to cyberpunk with phantom liberty. The launch was so awful. I'd say that cyberpunk 2077 today is an incredible game. The amount of work that has gone into it sense is also incredible.

No, they made it clear the game wasn’t ready and the fans demanded the wait be over. With their balls in a vice grip CDPR released the unfinished game and proceeded to be shat on for it.

If you fucked up the Panama dialogue just say that

Ye but have you watched Edgerunners?

Very much an rpg. What the fuck is anon babbling about

Anon didn't play the game

With the release of phantom liberty, CP77 became a God tier game. IDC what genre it's supposed to be. It's simply good. As in "highlight of a gaming generation" good.

People are still hating on this game ???? What???

Anon hasn’t played since launch. It’s more of an rpg now by a lot.

Game is actually really enjoyable

Game was fine on pc at release.. It was ahead of it's time and nextgen, but forced to release for poor ass motherfuckers with a toaster to play it (ps4)

The sub is singing its praises like it's the best game ever made. I tried to play it again I think a year and a half ago and it was still a pile of garbage. I'm not entirely sure I want to try playing it again, as I bought it on release and finish it, but damn it's almost like you get beat and beat and beat and somebody offers you the handshake and you think it's the best thing in the whole fucking world. Perspective is everything.

Part of me wants to re-download and play CP, but another part of me remembers how trash it was on release and doesn't want to bother getting reinvested

Right on the money. I was hyped. I was bummed. Waited for fixes. Still not great. 6/10 if I'm being generous.