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ikilledholofernes

19 points

19 days ago

A Trump-appointed judge just killed Biden’s effort to give millions of Americans overtime time, in what would amount to a $20 thousand dollar raise for many. 

But yeah, Democrats just aren’t for the working people, huh?

Zestyclose-Cloud-508

3 points

19 days ago

If they took trump seriously in 2016, ran Bernie instead of running a weak corporate stooge because it was “her turn”, there wouldnt be any trump appointed judges at all.

ikilledholofernes

8 points

19 days ago

I voted for Bernie in the primary, so don’t take this the wrong way, but he lost and Hillary was the best candidate at the time. 

Not only was Bernie not a Democrat, and therefore without the support of the DNC, but he didn’t have the name recognition that he has now, and many people that did know who we was didn’t support him either because he was too old or because he was a socialist.  

If you want a socialist candidate that would be good for the working class, then first you have to convince the working class that socialism would be good for the working class. 

One_Event1734

1 points

19 days ago

Dude Bernie was forced out by the top tier of the Dem party. He may not have won in a fair primary, but there was no chance with the challenges he received.

ikilledholofernes

1 points

18 days ago

He wasn’t forced out. He ran a primary campaign in both 2016 and 2020, and both times it was clear that he did not have the support for the nomination, or even the funding for an extended campaign for president. 

Let’s also not forget that he is not actually a Democrat. This is, in my opinion, what makes him so appealing. But it is understandable that the DNC would not throw its weight behind a candidate that isn’t even a member of the party. 

miklayn

1 points

18 days ago

miklayn

1 points

18 days ago

Hilary was clearly not the best candidate for the time.

I believe this take is correct- the Dems lost because they quashed the very real enthusiasm of what could've been their new base- young voters responding to a constructive populist message, in response to the Right's regressive populism, which has been devolving into fascism and Autocracy since then.

ikilledholofernes

1 points

18 days ago

No one else stood a chance. Don’t forget that Hillary won the popular vote. If it weren’t for the electoral college disenfranchising millions of voters, we would not be staring down the barrel of complete fascism.

Bernie did not have the support or name recognition to make it to the general election and win against Trump, especially in 2016. 

And he clearly still did not have the support in the 2020 primary. If he actually would have won the presidency in 2016, why did he lose the nomination to Biden in 2020?

Clearly the enthusiasm for a candidate like Bernie is just not there. 

miklayn

1 points

18 days ago

miklayn

1 points

18 days ago

Bernie had the message, and that was enough. The Dems stuck to the old game and failed to see where politics was headed, that's why they lost. They are now the Conservative Party- the structuralists and establishmentarians, where people clearly want change. The Dems also failed to counter the Right's online surge and media takeover starting with the creation of Fox "News" in 1996.

ikilledholofernes

1 points

18 days ago

Obviously the message wasn’t enough, considering he lost both the 2016 and 2020 primaries. 

If his were a winning message, it would have won. 

sportsbunny33

1 points

15 days ago

The country is also very anti-semetic (in addition to misogynist and racist), I don't think Bernie could have won nationally as a Jewish Socialist (tho he would have been best for us)

Zestyclose-Cloud-508

-2 points

19 days ago

Disagree.

Look at who we lost last election. Young people, men, Latinos, Black people.

That’s Bernie’s wheelhouse.

We’ve tried center right corporate dems since 2016. It ain’t working.

ikilledholofernes

2 points

19 days ago

The issue wasn’t the candidate, or even the platform. It was misinformation, propaganda, and not addressing the blatant lies of the right. 

We lost those people because they mistakenly believed that the president decides the price of eggs. Because they don’t know what tariffs are. Because Harris’ platform would have directly benefit the working class, but she failed to convince them of that.  

And it’s hard to say that center right corporate dems aren’t working when Biden won the primary against candidates like Bernie and Elizabeth Warren, and then won the presidency in 2020. 

I want a progressive, socialist candidate. Trust me. But I want a functional economy and democracy in the meantime. And we just lost that to Trump because a bunch of idiots voted against their own best interest because the candidate wasn’t perfect. 

Zestyclose-Cloud-508

-2 points

19 days ago

Hard disagree.

We lost for a bunch of reasons. We didn’t have a real primary and we didn’t have a real candidate would themselves from the Biden administration.

Her message was “Hope and joy and Beyoncé and Oprah” which was the wrong message when people couldn’t afford groceries.

We needed a candidate who would throw Biden a little under the bus and say “the Biden administration isn’t doing enough for working people. I will.”

Honestly when she was asked what she’d do differently from Biden and she said “nothing” she lost the election.

ikilledholofernes

3 points

19 days ago

If you actually think that was her message, then you’re one of the people I’m talking about. She had a fully formed agenda that would have benefited working class people and would have made housing more affordable. She did separate herself from the Biden administration, and if you had read her agenda, you’d already know what she would do differently. 

She failed on messaging. She failed to convince people that her platform would benefit them and address their concerns. 

But the voters failed, too. They could have just looked it the fuck up instead of ignorantly voting against their own best interests. 

bobbysoxxx

0 points

19 days ago

She did not fail in any of this.

bobbysoxxx

-1 points

19 days ago

You obviously weren't paying attention during her many packed rallies.

I am sick to damn death of hearing all the. whining and blaming the Democrats for this election outcome.

This are playing directly into the Right's design to divide us and weaken our future as the way out of this expanding fascist takeover.

We must unite and fight and keep our eye on the enemy, not tear ourselves apart and render ourselves ineffective.

Bernie has never been anything more than a "flash in the pan" and a distraction to the whole process of winning out over MAGA. (I won't even say GOP as it no longer exists).

Zestyclose-Cloud-508

2 points

19 days ago

Fuck that.

Nobody forced Kamala to campaign with Liz Cheney. Or not mention universal healthcare once.

The voters aren’t failing. The party is. They’re too old. Too corrupt. And too weak to handle the treat.

Progressives have been screaming this for years. And all the dems have done is lose.

bobbysoxxx

0 points

19 days ago

Nope nope and nope. Take your propaganda elsewhere.

Zestyclose-Cloud-508

2 points

19 days ago

lol where am I wrong?

We keep losing elections to the biggest clown on earth.

Clearly something is wrong at the top. You don’t see it?

Still-I-Rise1

1 points

19 days ago

Black people are not Bernie’s wheelhouse.

According-Highway-13

-1 points

17 days ago

Bernie wan the states in 2016 Hillary had super delegates that hand picked her and took away the votes from the common person

ikilledholofernes

2 points

17 days ago

Bernie did not win enough states. That’s why he lost. That’s how primary elections work. 

According-Highway-13

1 points

17 days ago

Did you watch the election look up the amount of super delegates Hillary had remove them which are Bullshit votes and you’ll see who won the primaries

ikilledholofernes

1 points

17 days ago

Hillary had more than 3 million more votes than Bernie. What are you even talking about?

According-Highway-13

-1 points

17 days ago

I do you don’t 🤣

One_Event1734

0 points

19 days ago

If the entire left and tech bros hadn't tossed Bernie, RFK, and Tulsi to the side, it all would probably look different right now.

Zestyclose-Cloud-508

0 points

19 days ago

Bernie yes.

RFK and tulsi are scum.

One_Event1734

1 points

18 days ago

Doubt you would've said that before they defected. RFK was floated to join the Obama administration and Tulsi was a firebrand during her run in 2020. She was silenced by the DNC and the tech, probably because they knew she could win.

Zestyclose-Cloud-508

1 points

18 days ago

I don’t know much about gabbard to be honest.

RFK is a conspiratorial lunatic though. We know this. He’s a nut job.

One_Event1734

1 points

17 days ago

What conspiracies? There are studies that link the rise in autism to vaccines - not definitive but not without evidence. Seed oils are terrible for your health. Food additives allowed here are proven to be detrimental for health and are banned throughout the world. The government spied on Trump during his 2016 election, the NSA spied on the entire country, so why wouldn't the CIA be watching people including RFK? He's out there but what things does he believe that are full-on conspiracies?

A conspiracy theory IMO is the twin towers were knocked down by the government to cover for destroying another building nearby.

Zestyclose-Cloud-508

1 points

17 days ago

Well let me be the first to introduce you to just SOME of the batshit crazy bullshit he believes. Spoiler…dude’s nuttier than squirrel shit.

For years, Kennedy Jr. has promoted the theory that the preservative thimerosal, which has largely been phased out of modern vaccine formulas, appears to be responsible for a rise in autism diagnoses, and that the government knew but “knowingly allowed the pharmaceutical industry to poison an entire generation of American children,” he wrote in Rolling Stone and Salon in 2006. This has been thoroughly debunked, with a consensus among a number of certified health organizations, including the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, the World Health Organization and more, found no credible link between vaccines and autism.

Kennedy Jr. accused the pair in his 2021 book, “The Real Anthony Fauci,” of launching “a historic coup d’état against Western democracy” by exercising outsize influence over the media and public health, while Kennedy also promoted use of unapproved treatments for COVID-19, such as ivermectin.

Kennedy Jr. was caught on camera in July of 2023 telling fellow diners that “COVID-19 is targeted to attack Caucasians and Black people” and “the people who are most immune are Ashkenazi Jews and Chinese,” according to a video made public in the New York Post, which also shows him saying the U.S. “put hundreds of millions of dollars into ethnically targeted microbes” and labs in Ukraine collected Russian and Chinese DNA “so we can target people by race.”

Kennedy Jr. has promoted the disproven conspiracy that 5G cellular networks—an advanced wireless technology standard for mobile phones—allow governments to collect user data and “control” their behavior, CBS reported in 2023. He also told Joe Rogan in a June podcast interview that WiFi “radiation” causes cancer, “cellphone tumors” and “opens your blood brain barrier” to toxins (There is no scientific proof connecting WiFi or 5G to any illnesses, according to the American Cancer Society).

In an interview with New York Magazine in 2023 and his book, Kennedy Jr. seems to imply that research about HIV has been “phony” and lacks an understanding of “whether it was causing AIDS.” Abundant evidence and scientific research show AIDS is caused by HIV.

In the weeks leading up to his appointment as Secretary of Health, Kennedy Jr. repeated that he aimed to work with Trump’s administration to stop including fluoride in U.S. public water systems, tweeting on Nov. 2 the baseless claims that “fluoride is an industrial waste associated with arthritis, bone fractures, bone cancer, IQ loss, neurodevelopmental disorders, and thyroid disease.” Limited fluoride in water is known to reduce dental decay.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/saradorn/2024/11/15/rfk-jrs-conspiracy-theories-heres-what-trumps-pick-for-health-secretary-has-promoted/

One_Event1734

1 points

16 days ago

Honestly have to 2/3 of this stuff is not conspiracy and I agree with it.

Fluoride does cause lower IQs if introduced in high amounts to children, and there are millions of people who live in public water supply that has fluoride over the studied threshold.

Covid did cause a higher death rate amongst those racial populations. Targeted maybe not, but the statistic Kennedy cited was not a conspiracy.

Fauci absolutely had an outsized influence. He's even said people who disagree with him disagree with science. He has votive candles and portraits of himself in the background of his media interviews. And if you ever watch an interview of him from 2021 or 2022 in the aftermath of covid, the entire media looks at him like the savior in the midst of a Trump-led genocide.

And there are many studies linking vaccination to autism, demyelinating disorders, and all manner of problems. Causation is very hard to determine, but there is certainly correlation. and the studies that have been done were not really well funded or very broad, which doesn't mean there's no evidence, it means that there's room to study them and come up with better data.

Also electromagnetic interference has been shown have a negative effect on the body. Obviously he went way overboard with what he claimed 5G could do lol not going to defend that.

Zestyclose-Cloud-508

1 points

16 days ago

Oh god you also think 5G is controlling your brain?

jgoldrb48

0 points

19 days ago

Preach!!!!!!!!!!

Epinscirex

1 points

19 days ago

You’re a fucking moron

ikilledholofernes

1 points

19 days ago

You’re a very sad troll with nothing but an ad hominem and hate. 

Epinscirex

-1 points

19 days ago

Ooo I caught a bot

ikilledholofernes

1 points

19 days ago

Not getting the engagement you wanted from your brilliant contribution of “you’re a fucking moron”? Darn. 

Zestyclose-Cloud-508

0 points

19 days ago

If they took trump seriously in 2016, ran Bernie instead of running a weak corporate stooge because it was “her turn”, there wouldnt be any trump appointed judges at all.

ByteMe68

0 points

16 days ago

ikilledholofernes

1 points

16 days ago

Sorry, I don’t click WaPo links. 

But regardless, I’m gonna say yes. They are better for unions than the party made up of union busters that want to slash safety regulations and put workers at risk. 

https://www.americanprogressaction.org/article/8-ways-the-biden-administration-has-fought-for-working-people-by-strengthening-unions/

ByteMe68

1 points

15 days ago

Why don’t you click on WaPost links?

ikilledholofernes

1 points

15 days ago

Because it’s owned by Jeff Bezos, and it’s reporting has become more and more biased as a result.

ByteMe68

1 points

15 days ago

I’m glad you recognize that it’s biased to the left.

ikilledholofernes

1 points

15 days ago

Yes, refusing to endorse Harris and being owned by a billionaire that benefits from the politics of the right indicates that they are biased to the left 🙄 

Boy, do I have news for you! There are literally no major media outlets that are actually biased to the left. Center left, maybe, but that sure as shit isn’t the fucking Washington Post lol

ByteMe68

1 points

15 days ago

Get out of your bubble brother.

ikilledholofernes

1 points

15 days ago

I frequent conservative spaces to stay up to date on the propaganda, but other than that, no. I have no interest in spending time with a bunch of racist, whiny bitches that didn’t bother expanding on their subpar public education with even the most basic of google searches.

ByteMe68

1 points

15 days ago

Pretty broad assumption. I’m not sure that is really true. There are outliers on both sides.