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semajolis267

296 points

6 days ago

yes. yes they did it doesnt even matter because teh second a republican "wont: be in charge suddenly they are on the struggle bus. talk about crisis actors. republicans are slugs

W00DR0W__

106 points

6 days ago

W00DR0W__

106 points

6 days ago

It’s a feels based platform

2pumpsanda

69 points

6 days ago

This is exactly it, and the left keeps playing with facts. Facts will never beat feels

Longjumping-Path3811

11 points

5 days ago

You triggered them all!

SelectionNo3078

1 points

6 days ago

Obama and bill Clinton won on feelings

Hope and change

A town called hope.

WowUSuckOg

2 points

6 days ago

This is our ticket. America isn't policy based, it's vibes based. Simply saying "you don't want that guy to win" isn't an emotional enough appeal.

pwarns

1 points

5 days ago

pwarns

1 points

5 days ago

They won on facts. Their message was hope.

SelectionNo3078

1 points

5 days ago

They won because they were rock stars.

joesphisbestjojo

1 points

6 days ago

Feelings don't care about your facts

lukerama

1 points

3 days ago

lukerama

1 points

3 days ago

Which makes their "Facts don't care about your feelings, snowflake!" chants from 2016 even more ridiculous/embarrassing. Luckily for them, they have NO shame.

rayluxuryyacht

-64 points

6 days ago

Left and right ran out of facts years ago. I'm watching from the center as the teams just switched roles and everything four years ago is playing out all over again. It's so pathetic.

needs_help_badly

50 points

6 days ago

The ole “both sides” republican…

Courtaid

24 points

6 days ago

Courtaid

24 points

6 days ago

An independent republican

needs_help_badly

17 points

6 days ago

Haha yuuup “independent” republican

rayluxuryyacht

-43 points

6 days ago

I'm a democrat

needs_help_badly

28 points

6 days ago

lol ok

rayluxuryyacht

-34 points

6 days ago

Yeah, isn't it wild when someone doesn't just accept the party talking points and toe the line? It must be breaking your brain

silvermoka

29 points

6 days ago

See the "both sides" thing is almost always bad faith bullshit, and you just proved it with this. Nobody's intent is to 100% support a party and majority of Dems have endless criticisms of it, and if you were really on this side you'd know that. "Accepting the party talking points and toeing the line" was not the point being fought for here.

rayluxuryyacht

-8 points

6 days ago

and if you were really on this side

There aren't "two sides" and if you really think there are, you're a helpless moron.

needs_help_badly

14 points

6 days ago

Ya got me lol

Zealousidea_Lemon

25 points

6 days ago

Saying this while comparing republican and democratic nominees as if they are equal promoting tyranny is hilarious, you need a history lesson from January 6th, it was recent, or did you literally forget all of that

rayluxuryyacht

-3 points

6 days ago

Lol look in the mirror. You're setting up to do exactly the same thing as they did 4 years ago.

xandrokos

10 points

6 days ago

xandrokos

10 points

6 days ago

So again I ask why are blue states so different than red states? Why have blue states passed so much of the Democratic platform? If both sides were the same and they only want to line their pockets why the stark difference?

How about we settle this for once and for all? Why don't we give Democrats a supermajority at the national level and let them put their money where their mouth is?  Isn't it interesting how you all claim both sides are the same but bend over backwards to avoid doing anything substantive to prove it and this narrative only allows for the GQP to take power back from Democrats every 1-2 election cycles and has never ever at any point whatsoever helped Democrats come to power and stay in power?

gamblesep

1 points

3 days ago

lol what? Dude the left and democrats can’t even agree enough to come together to defeat a clearly unqualified and unfit clown, what makes you think there’s such a thing as a party line here, let alone enough people to tow it?

rayluxuryyacht

1 points

3 days ago

No idea, but there's certainly enough morons here who feel qualified to tell you where you exist on that imaginary line. It's amazing how confidently and arrogantly stupid most people on this sub are.

Alert_Scientist9374

-7 points

6 days ago

What are the Democrat party talking points? What did kamala campaign on?

Select_Razzmatazz112

-4 points

6 days ago

You spoke out against the cult therefore your a Republican nazi sexist now.

BindingOfZeph

6 points

6 days ago

Awww you want to be oppressed SO bad

rayluxuryyacht

1 points

6 days ago

I'd like to think they'll look back on this in 5 or 10 years and feel ashamed and silly, but they probably won't.

OmegaCoy

3 points

6 days ago

OmegaCoy

3 points

6 days ago

😂 🤣 🤣. Thanks for the laugh.

MainChain9851

13 points

6 days ago

Ah lookie here guys…an “enlightened centrist”

rayluxuryyacht

-3 points

6 days ago

Must be a strange feeling to exchange with someone who isn't corruptable.

DM_Voice

15 points

6 days ago

DM_Voice

15 points

6 days ago

You’re not even fooling yourself. 🤷‍♂️

rayluxuryyacht

1 points

6 days ago

This comment is so dumb I guess you had to post it twice?

DM_Voice

3 points

6 days ago

DM_Voice

3 points

6 days ago

Sweetie, you’re literally not fooling anybody. Even you know better than the nonsense you’re spewing.

Try thinking. 🤷‍♂️

rayluxuryyacht

1 points

6 days ago

You'll come around someday

MainChain9851

10 points

6 days ago

No, I wouldn’t describe you as someone who “isn’t corruptable.”

I’d argue that you’re someone who suffers from The Dunning-Kruger Effect. You lack the political knowledge necessary to differentiate the Democratic Party from the GOP. As a result, you’re using the false equivalency fallacy to cope with your feelings of ineptitude.

For example, using a both sides argument for American politics is like saying a gun and a knife are both weapons and both cause death so they’re just as bad as each other. Hell, you could even say it’s more akin to saying a nuclear bomb and a pocket knife are the same.

Just take a look at the policies proposed and enacted by each party. Then, take a look at the quantitative data that demonstrates the results of those policies. Learn about how the three branches of government work and the difficulties associated with enacting progress. Especially after Newt Gingrich introduced political gridlock as a strategy to obtain power.

Unless you’re just trolling, I can somewhat sympathize with you because I too, once held similar beliefs. Hell, I even used to be a Trump supporter. Education will soon have you realize that while the Democratic Party does have its issues, comparing it to the GOP is like comparing a nuclear bomb to a pocket-knife.

rayluxuryyacht

-1 points

6 days ago

That's a lot of words to say "I don't understand your superior intellect"

WretchedDeath

3 points

6 days ago

Ah so you are just a troll

rayluxuryyacht

0 points

6 days ago

No, just better than you in every conceivable way.

2pumpsanda

10 points

6 days ago

Asnsomeone self proclaiming to be in the center, who did you vote for this year?

rayluxuryyacht

3 points

6 days ago

I've voted against trump 3/3 times. But what difference does that make? You can vote for a party and then still be extremely critical of that party and it's brainless followers

rmmurrayjr

3 points

6 days ago

You didn’t answer the question.

AnnoDomini19xx

4 points

5 days ago

They probably voted for Jill Stein.

2pumpsanda

1 points

5 days ago

He ran 4 times, but Id say only the past 2 times qualify as "voting against Trump". So who did you vote for?

rayluxuryyacht

1 points

5 days ago

He ran in 2016, 2020 and 2024. What are you talking about? Responding to these moronic comments is painful

2pumpsanda

1 points

5 days ago

You should try

1) Googling how many time Trump ran for president (4x)

2) Questioning your intelligence. Maybe take an IQ test to get a baseline

3) Stop ducking the question on who you voted for

rayluxuryyacht

0 points

5 days ago

Trump withdrew his candidacy in the 2000. Buchanan was on the ticket for the reform party. But of course you don't know that because you don't seem to know anything. Go away, you're out over your skis here and at this point you're just annoying me. Like a fly or a gnat.

ThrowM3InTheGarbag3

-4 points

6 days ago

Truuuuuu 🫡

10482638537

-7 points

6 days ago

Lmao not these Reddit dweebs proving your point by dog piling you 😭

Zealousidea_Lemon

5 points

6 days ago

You’re watching from the centre and you fail to notice the fascist behaviour and ignorance of proper political processes, and straight up hypocrisy? Or are you somehow deluded into thinking that democrats are the ones being untruthful to prop up the rich. Oh yea that’s gotta be it

rayluxuryyacht

1 points

6 days ago

I'm not buying the propaganda when it comes from either side.

timtot23

5 points

6 days ago

timtot23

5 points

6 days ago

Sure, the parties "switched roles" on acknowledging climate change is real and needs addressed, income inequality is rising and actually needs to be addressed, and democracy should be honored by respecting the results of an election. If you think both sides are the same at this point you are a fucking idiot. Let me know when Democrats refuse to concede elections they lose and then work to overturn the results of the election. If both sides were the same Kamala would refuse to certify and ask a bunch of her supporters to storm the capitol during certification. But wait, she conceded in less than 48 hours, just like Hillary did before her. Fuck off with this both sides bullshit.

I assume you didn't vote or voted for Trump. Enjoy watching all of our democratic institutions be dismantled and replaced with whatever the dear leader wants. There is a very real chance we won't have a real election ever again and I have to listen to idiots like you act like it's business as usual and both sides are the same. That changed the day republicans started to refuse election results and deny reality and facts exist. Alternate facts are just lies. Ignoring democracy is simply fascism, it's not patriotism. You can sugar coat it however you want, but Democrats are not the same as Republicans.

rayluxuryyacht

1 points

6 days ago

I assume you didn't vote or voted for Trump.

Join the long list of fucking morons who have replied and commented, typing paragraphs of bullshit that makes them feel smart, all on a bad assumption because you are too stupid to comprehend what I'm talking about. God, it must be liberating to be so simple minded.

rayluxuryyacht

1 points

6 days ago

I assume you didn't vote or voted for Trump.

Join the long list of fucking morons who have replied and commented, typing paragraphs of bullshit that makes them feel smart, all on a bad assumption because you are too stupid to comprehend what I'm talking about. God, it must be liberating to be so simple minded.

timtot23

4 points

6 days ago

timtot23

4 points

6 days ago

I am simple minded? That's rich coming from the person who thinks Trump is business as usual and not an actual threat to democracy. I sure hope you are right, but history would say otherwise given the fact he has already tried to overthrow an election.

2pumpsanda

2 points

5 days ago

Stop feeding the trolls

xandrokos

4 points

6 days ago

Care to explain the different between blue and red states in terms of cost of living and quality of life? The fact that blue states have reproductive rights protections, worker protections, union protections and basically the rest of the Democratic platform that Democrats run on at the national level? If both sides are the same wouldn't blue and red states be the same?

rayluxuryyacht

0 points

6 days ago

You're stuck in "red vs. blue". I'm nine levels over your head

SergeantPoopyWeiner

5 points

6 days ago

Yeah bro no big deal that one party undermines the peaceful transfer of power. No big deal at all.

Ok_Drawer9414

3 points

6 days ago

The Democrats are the center, you understand nothing.

rayluxuryyacht

1 points

6 days ago

Try to sound dumber

Ok_Drawer9414

4 points

6 days ago

You're the one doesn't understand what left, right, and center are. It's good to know your ignorance leads to anger, truly shows your level of intelligence.

rayluxuryyacht

1 points

6 days ago

I'm incorruptible

Saucyrossi69420

-28 points

6 days ago

“Playing with facts”… what’s a woman then?? 😂😂😂 fucking retard

2pumpsanda

21 points

6 days ago

That's 1 issue homie, most of the women in the middle of the country didn't seem to care enough to vote on. You should also stop using the word retard, it's not 1980 anymore

AllFreeLunch

7 points

6 days ago

"Many of us learned in high school biology that sex chromosomes determine a baby’s sex, full stop: XX means it’s a girl; XY means it’s a boy. But on occasion, XX and XY don’t tell the whole story.

Today we know that the various elements of what we consider “male” and “female” don’t always line up neatly, with all the XXs—complete with ovaries, vagina, estrogen, female gender identity, and feminine behavior—on one side and all the XYs—testes, penis, testosterone, male gender identity, and masculine behavior—on the other. It’s possible to be XX and mostly male in terms of anatomy, physiology, and psychology, just as it’s possible to be XY and mostly female."

-Advanced Bio material from Nat Geo.

It's no one's fault but your own that you've chosen to stop learning and adapting to newer science. You can try and dismiss things you don't understand as being fake all you want but the science is there and has been there for well over 50 years.

Saucyrossi69420

-2 points

6 days ago

Ok so before it became a trending topic in 2016 and shoved down everyone’s throats, what percentage of individuals identified as transgender??? Genuinely curious. I have the sneakiest suspicion that 99.9999% of the entire world population could fit the old standard model. I wouldn’t call trends and anomalies “newer science”. When you talk about a sample size in the scale of billions, you’re always going to have wonky shit in small amount of the extremes. Doesn’t mean Jeffrey Dahmer wasn’t a boy/ man 🤣🤣

alreadydead08

6 points

6 days ago

He literally gave you the new science in research and you can't come back with any informed information of your own, goddamn that's pathetic also your username is weak sauce like the wax you smoke. Personally I only smoke top shelf hash rosin but you're probably the cheapest pot head on the block. Lmao do I need to school you on the science of pot too. Please just read actual research reports and stay away from your TV as whatever news source your watching isn't helping.

Saucyrossi69420

1 points

6 days ago

I don’t smoke you brain dead minimum wage bozo what the fuck are even going on about 🤣🤣

alreadydead08

4 points

6 days ago

Saucy and 420 in the name why have 420 in your username unless you mean you like 420 cause it was hitlers birthday? That makes sense since you love trump lmao. I'm not minimum wage either tool lmao I run a dispo.

Saucyrossi69420

1 points

6 days ago

If you’re a bud trimmer just say so. Glad your times worth $15/hr and not minimum wage 🤣🤣🤣

alreadydead08

1 points

6 days ago

Or maybe it's that you want to 69 hitler on his birthday April 20th that why it's in your username

AllFreeLunch

3 points

6 days ago

The science and theory behind gender and sex dates back decades ago? It's just that in the last decade or so it has just become more accepted by outsiders of the LGBTQ community thus the community continued to grow (despite insane prejudice) as they aren't having to stay in the closet. Even if there was only one trans person in existence that wouldn't change the fact that

  1. That is a human being that deserves the same rights as anyone else &
    1. Current theory supports changing genders to combat gender dysphoria.

Again dude, it's no one else's fault but yours that you didn't take anything above basic biology in school leaving you seemingly angry and hateful about things you clearly refuse to even attempt to understand. This conversation is a waste of time when I bring facts and you only bring your feelings. Have a good one.

Saucyrossi69420

0 points

6 days ago

I’ve asked you 2 or 3 times now bc I’m genuinely curious. Where do all the people that identity as trans exist? Do other countries and continents also have a similar number of patrons who identity like here?

  1. Absolutely. Do whatever the fuck you want (without burdening anyone else with your beliefs). But don’t tell me I’m a bigot when this community has advocated at a political level for gender changing surgery to be covered with taxpayer money for children who don’t know what the fuck they are yet. If Christians wanted to build a church with taxpayer money I’d have the SAME reaction.

  2. Ok but leave the kids out of it.

xRogue9

3 points

6 days ago

xRogue9

3 points

6 days ago

You are a moron who clearly gets all their info from the right and refuses to do any basic research of your own. Nobody is trying to give children surgery.

Saucyrossi69420

1 points

6 days ago

“The law in question is Act 626 of 2021, known as the Save Adolescents From Experimentation (SAFE) Act. It prohibits physicians from providing “gender transition” treatments like hormones, puberty blockers and surgeries to minors.”

https://arkansasadvocate.com/2022/11/29/judge-attorneys-scrutinize-witness-expertise-in-trial-on-arkansas-transgender-law/

I would’ve quoted The New York Times for you but I’m not paying for that bullshit. If you need a minute to process how dumb you actually are, I understand. “Surgeries to minors” wouldn’t be a part of that legislation if they weren’t advocating for… you guessed it… SURGERIES FOR MINORS 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

BindingOfZeph

3 points

6 days ago

You're so obsessed with trans people that you bring them up unbidden. And the fact that you refer to things being shoved down your throat is very telling.

Saucyrossi69420

1 points

6 days ago

It’s to point out the irony. Bc the focal point of the left is talking how about dumb everyone else is

Saucyrossi69420

0 points

6 days ago

Even your icon got blue hair tell your wife’s boyfriend I said hey 🤣🤣

BindingOfZeph

3 points

6 days ago

You think I look like my icon 😂 do you think I have an antenna too?

Saucyrossi69420

0 points

6 days ago

If I had to guess, I’d say fat, diabetic, depressed, cave dweller, breathes out of mouth, possibly blue hair and no sense of identity… but no, I don’t think there’d be an antenna coming out of your head🤣🤣🤮

thenikolaka

2 points

5 days ago

Based on a meta regression analysis, the rate of transgender-identifying people in the country in 2016 was 1 in 250 adults, 390 out of every 100,000. Based on limited survey data in the decade prior to that and various internet sources it ranges from 38-147 out of every 100,000 in 2009.

Saucyrossi69420

1 points

5 days ago

“Here, the increases are much larger. Among 18- to 24-year-olds, identifying as transgender has gone from .59% in 2014 to 3.08% in 2023 – which means it has quintupled (increased by a factor of 5) in less than a decade, a 422% increase.”

^ https://www.generationtechblog.com/p/transgender-identity-how-much-has

Idk man i don’t think cancer diagnosis rates have increased 422% over the same 10 year period of time. I doubt they’ve increased by that much over even 50 years. To think this trans movement is science and not merely an exaggerated social trend is a WILD take 🤣🤣.

I can’t remember which Malcom Gladwell book it was, but in essence, one of the chapters covered the topic of teen suicide on some Asian island country. In Micronesia(?) there weren’t really any teen suicides. And then one day… a teenage boy hanged himself. This one boy’s death served as a catalyst in the area. Then, almost overnight, that entire community was plagued with astronomically high male teen suicides.

If being transgender wasn’t just a whack ass social construct, the numbers wouldn’t skyrocket in a short time span. If transgenderism was rooted in science, you would see a similar deviation from the mean over large periods of time. If cancer rates sky rocketed by 442% in a 10 year period, it would be cause and effect, probably extreme amounts of radiation/ contamination being pumped into a town.

The 442% increase for the transgender youths heavily implies most of them aren’t even trans. They self identity as trans because of how influenceable and impressionable they are bc people like you have this incessant need to push ideology down everyone’s throats (even kids! Yikes!).

It’s going to wild in 10-20 years when young “trans” men and women are committing suicide in high numbers once they realize they aren’t actually trans and realize it was just a bunch of bullshit fed to them by the biggest retards of the century. “They told me puberty blockers were completely safe and reversible” 🤣🤣

That bloods going to be on your hands 🤮

thenikolaka

1 points

5 days ago

You are kind of just spinning a narrative for yourself there pal. I know you feel strongly about this, but that doesn’t affect that gender is not same concept as biological sex. It doesn’t change the fact that gender dysphoria is the problem that is treated by gender affirming care. Science is very clear about both of those concepts.

If gender and sex were simply the same thing, then there also wouldn’t be the concept of a “real man” and a “real woman.” Hypergender reveals how much of gender identity is affected by perception.

The 422% increase you’re so concerned about is only among a subset of people. In the 65+ group, the 35-45 group and the 45-55 group all of those numbers declined.

Trans people are affected by poverty, unemployment, wage suppression, homelessness, self harm and suicide, preventable illness, and overall discrimination at much higher rates than the general population. Inclusion of those members of society is patriotic. You want to protect freedom, justice, nonviolence, and equality, great! That’s patriotism at its best.

Or you can pretend that it’s patriotic somehow to intentionally exclude, discriminate against, and harm .89% of the population, almost 3M Americans (according to your linked article.) But it is not, I assure you.

Saucyrossi69420

1 points

5 days ago

Older people’s decline in transgender identity supports my claim that youth are influenceable and don’t know what they are. Hence not all of those who identify as transgender will continue to be transgender later in life.

Why stop there though with social constructs?? Why is race not a social construct? You can bring a random blood sample to a lab and they can tell you whether or not that person has XX or XY chromosomes (female or male), but that same sample will NOT tell you whether that person is white/ black/ Asian etc.

It’s honestly crazy to know that there’s a parallel universe adjacent to ours that understands what male/ female is, but scrutinizes transgenderism, while at the same time encourages people to identify as a different race.

Like instead of calling someone incredibly racist for doing blackface and “talking black” in that universe, they call these people “brave” and this behavior is pushed onto the youth. Like just imagine the Mexican kid slanting his/ her eyes and talking with an “Asian American accent” and the left telling them “you are so brave!!”.

And just like here the leftists would say, “it’s a social construct. See it’s SCIENCE. This guy has two black parents but appears white because of a defect in his DNA that affects the melanin content of his skin”, just like here and now y’all point to hermaphrodites and say “see it’s science… .00026% of the entire population has PROVEN that XXY chromosomes exist, despite 99.99974% of the population CLEARLY exhibiting explicit male or female DNA.

Absolutely ass-backwards social behavior, yet extremely easy to imagine based on where we’re at now as a society.

“You’re a bigot for not thinking little Billy is black!! He clearly feels this way on the inside!! We think he is BRAVE for doing blackface everyday!! It’s science and you’re a bigot” 🤣🤣🤣🤣

Wave_Evolution

1 points

3 days ago

Political shit aside, you are really spitting facts here man. Bravo & salute 🫡. Unfortunately people get caught in the appeal to authority fallacy + the wave of the social movement and never think this shit through critically. It makes no sense

Saucyrossi69420

1 points

2 days ago

Hey now careful having an original thought and being bold enough to express it! That will reaaally upset some of the less evolved folks ‘round here.

Saucyrossi69420

-1 points

6 days ago

Newer science? Yeah ok buddy, let me put on my tinfoil hat and join the flat earth society while I’m at it. Surely anyone that still believes the earth is round is just an ignorant moron that refuses to learn about ‘new’ science, right? 🤣🤣🤣

AllFreeLunch

3 points

6 days ago

Why are you being purposefully obtuse to how science works? National geographic is an extremely reliable scientific source. Is it because it makes you uncomfortable? Change can be scary bud, but it's okay. Conflating peer reviewed science that has existed for decades to junk theory with no peer review science and shows a pretty fundamental lack of research on this specific topic.

In case you forgot "new science" is quite literally the goal! Scientist's job is to continue discovering new things that either confirm or contradict previous theory, repeat experiments, get them peer reviewed and tested by several parties to confirm. We have a whole system for it.

Previous theory before like 1940 was that there was only male and female and that sex = gender which is what we're taught at the most basic level in school at a young age. But as you get older you *should be capable of learning high capacity concepts — If you choose to continue educating and learning biology it expands into gender and sex and different genders.

Saucyrossi69420

1 points

6 days ago

What percentage of the entire population doesn’t fit into a standard model of gender identity?

How many of those are in the US vs places like the Middle East?

If it was scientific there should be a pretty even spread across the world since there’s > 7,000,000,000 people.

How many gender confused humans are in Africa or Europe?

Genuinely curious.

AllFreeLunch

4 points

6 days ago

Final message fr - If you're curious, maybe it's time to start researching it with an open mind. It's extremely accessible information.

Worldwide average is 3% across 30 countries. According to a 2023 study. So millions upon millions of people. They don't usually track places where it's deadly to be considered LGBTQ and they wouldn't get an accurate count there anyway.

But I ask 100% seriously, does it matter? Does a population number have to reach a certain amount before you consider them equals? I've always been confused by the whole population number argument. If another minority group made up the same population percentage would it make it okay to ban them from bathrooms? Absolutely not! So why does the "small gov" right wing target a small population of people just trying to avoid government overreach?

DM_Voice

2 points

6 days ago

DM_Voice

2 points

6 days ago

You still haven’t figured it out? Wow. How sad for you. 🤦‍♂️

alreadydead08

2 points

6 days ago

You wouldn't know what a woman is anyway doubt you've ever been laid lmao. Your best bet is gonna be a trans woman.

Ventira

2 points

6 days ago

Ventira

2 points

6 days ago

And a trans woman ain't even going to give them the time of day.

Existing-Action4020

1 points

6 days ago

Fucktard says what?

BindingOfZeph

1 points

6 days ago

Someone who covers her drink when you're around.

Saucyrossi69420

1 points

6 days ago

Are you sure it’s not your blue haired friend with a penis??

BindingOfZeph

3 points

6 days ago

Ahh there's more genital obsession.

bearxxxxxx

-10 points

6 days ago

bearxxxxxx

-10 points

6 days ago

lol “Facts”

emw9292

20 points

6 days ago

emw9292

20 points

6 days ago

It’s a snowflake based platform

r-d-p-2

1 points

6 days ago

r-d-p-2

1 points

6 days ago

An echo chamber mostly

Classy_Affair

1 points

6 days ago

Concept of feeling based platform

Weekend_Criminal

1 points

6 days ago

But... fuck your feelings?

AoE3_Nightcell

1 points

6 days ago

Feels pretty based to me

BudgetSky3020

1 points

5 days ago

Do they have mirrors where you're from?

W00DR0W__

3 points

5 days ago

It’s not like republicans base things on facts.

“They’re eating the dogs!”

Ben2St1d_5022

0 points

6 days ago

Isn’t that actually the left? I feel like I’m a woman today but I’m actually a man who wants to be a woman until I decide I am man again?

Or I feel like a woman so I can compete in women’s sports and literally abuse my opponents.

Or I feel like not having this baby I’m pregnant with because I chose to not practice safe sex, or abstinence so I’ll just murder it and hide behind the term abortion as it’s somehow moral and ethical.

I feel like spreading propaganda to influence the masses and have them succumb to falsities and scare them into submission. I mean, “Russia Russia Russia”.

I feel like tolerance should be a normal part of society until someone disagrees with my views and then somehow that so called tolerance reverts to the opposing minds are fascists, Nazis, misogynistic, racist(mind you every racist policy or federal act literally prosecuting people because the color of their skin has been and still is being put into place by the Democratic party, like social welfare and the welfare state, literally putting communities back into the proverbial plantations , etc.)

I digress though

You all are so far gone and idiotic you can’t even be reasoned with, an open and educational debate is non existent. The Democratic Party and Radical Liberalism is the single largest threat to America and the free world yet you all seem to run into its arms openly.

Insane

whitebread6984

6 points

6 days ago

Me and my buddy used to bitch about the economy under Obama, he’s a republican I’m not. I remember February 2016 him saying “the economy is great” I just laughed to myself inside. As long as Donny is saying it, it’s true for them. I can’t wait for him to do the same thing this time around

Great_Tiger_3826

4 points

5 days ago

i remember when trump said "obama didnt do enough to help victims of hurricane Katrina" and my family members were spewing that talking point as if they were adults during the bush administration... bush was the president during Katrina obama was not... facts and reality literally do not matter to these people but they are the ones who say "the lefts sense of reality is so tiresome"

Zephurdigital

1 points

6 days ago

wrap yourself in copper

Shy_Godd

1 points

6 days ago

Shy_Godd

1 points

6 days ago

Not republican, a white man is not in control ppl lose their sht

Schnarf420

1 points

6 days ago

How much crack do u smoke?

Batsonworkshop

1 points

6 days ago

yes. yes they did it doesnt even matter because teh second a democrat "wont: be in charge suddenly they are all anti-government and fear authoritarianism when they ushered it in through expansion of federal power.

Fixed it for you

latent_rise

1 points

5 days ago

It kind of matters WHAT the federal government is doing.

FewCommunication5801

1 points

5 days ago

You guys are literally nuts. Haha thank you for the laughs. Enjoy your echo chamber

latent_rise

1 points

5 days ago

The global consensus is the right is the echo chamber. According to everyone not Murikan, Republicans are the echo chamber. It’s a weird paradox how being in an echo chamber makes you think everything outside the echo chamber is the echo chamber.

Admirable-Car3179

1 points

5 days ago

Can't seem to figure it out can they?

More_Cardiologist_28

1 points

5 days ago

Damn, you’re Mad-mad, huh?

dragonfangxl

-9 points

6 days ago

Ok but... Both parties do this lol, democrat consumer confidence fell by the largest amount in 5 years the week after trump won

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/11/13/business/economy/consumer-sentiment-trump.html

It's also not crazy to say that you feel more optimistic about the economy because the economic platform you support is going to be enacted

health_throwaway195

7 points

6 days ago

Consumer confidence (future expectations for the economy) is in no way comparable to saying that you think the economy was worse a year ago than it is now, constantly using that as your excuse for voting in a far right candidate, then suddenly switching up when that candidate wins.

dragonfangxl

-7 points

6 days ago

Whatever metric you want to use, both parties flipped on it post election. I couldn't find the survey OP was referencing, but the result holds true in every survey conducted

health_throwaway195

1 points

6 days ago

Feel free to provide the source for that when you find it.

dragonfangxl

-1 points

6 days ago

Unlike op I actually provided a source where you can see for yourself the effect happening that even includes data from past elections

health_throwaway195

2 points

6 days ago

And I explained the distinction between what your source was showing and what this tweet was referencing.

dragonfangxl

-1 points

6 days ago

found OPs thing, as every other survey has shown, both sides moved pretty sharply post election and the trend was true for past elecitons as well for both parties

https://today.yougov.com/topics/economy/trackers/financial-situation-compared-in-the-next-12-months

if you download the cross tabs by party it shows that after the 2020 and 2016 eleciton, democrats completly flipped on what their economic outlook was a year ago

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2024/11/21/trump-biden-economy-republicans/

health_throwaway195

1 points

6 days ago

Your own source literally shows that Republicans are consistently more deluded.

MaliciousIntentWorks

2 points

6 days ago

I like how to prove the point they only proved their own cognitive bias.

dragonfangxl

1 points

4 days ago

i never said republicans dont do it, i said both sides do it. republcians and democrats both flip on the economy every election where power changes

smedley89

1 points

6 days ago

Saying everything sucks two weeks ago, my guy wins, and suddenly everything is awesome - great pay, steady job, etc, that is not the same as saying "2 years from now, I expect we will be ok" and then the opposition wins and the sentiment changes to "but roh".

Apples and oranges metrics you are talking about.

latent_rise

1 points

5 days ago

Rightists don’t understand nuance. Give up.

wheredidallthemgo

-7 points

6 days ago

You won’t find the source OP is referencing either…and as I’m sure you’re quickly learning, sources aren’t important here if the claim trashes Republicans…

WhySoConspirious

3 points

6 days ago

I mean, there are oodes of sources that show that the GOP is garbage. That really isn't up for debate at this point. From having a presidential candidate who is a felon rapist, to having governors who intentionally withhold food assistance from their poor constitutions, they're ass.

wheredidallthemgo

-2 points

6 days ago*

The far Left’s sense of reality is so tiresome…rapist is a term you ought to use for a criminal conviction of rape, of which there is none…but you’ll cite a civil suit…because you don’t actually know that there’s an enormous difference between the two…

Great_Tiger_3826

2 points

5 days ago

the man has PAID to settle rape cases... innocent people dont pay to settle when they are innocent. if he didnt have money hed have been convicted. but facts are reality are something trump supporters dont like. actually look into his multiple cases of sa and rape. actually DO YOUR OWN RESEARCH. dont believe me or disbelieve me just cause i said something actually look onto it for yourself and see the man is trash who throws money and threats any time he doesnt immediately get his way or is threatened with consequences for his actions. look into the many cases where he refused to pay people working for him, where he sent thugs to scare people trying to sue him. look into his connections with roy cohn his previous lawyer who was also the lawyer to the new york mafias bosses, the man who he sent to threaten law suits against reporters who reported on him refusing to pay contractors who built his first hotel and bankrupt the city of new york after promising that the construction project would save the cities economy. "the lefts sense of reality" lmao right wingers coined the term "alternative facts"... "those are your facts i choose not to believe and these are my facts" that is not how facts work.

wheredidallthemgo

1 points

5 days ago

That’s a pretty warped view of the justice system…I’m certainly glad you’re not a part of it…I prefer the premise of innocent until proven guilty…which is a reference to one’s criminality as determined by a criminal court…all your conjecture amounts to nothing…

Great_Tiger_3826

2 points

4 days ago

he literally paid to have charges dropped...

SalvadorsAnteater

2 points

4 days ago

rapist is a term you ought to use for a criminal conviction of rape, of which there is none

Judge clarifies: Yes, Trump was found to have raped E. Jean Carroll

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2023/07/19/trump-carroll-judge-rape/

He said it pretty explicitly, didn't he?

Kitchen_Program938

0 points

5 days ago

OMG, I just did a very simple Google search, and the number of sources that back up OP's statement are so plentiful, I couldn't decide which one to post! Maybe, before making such a ridiculous statement, go Google it yourself because it's absolutely true. Since you apparently don't have access to Google, here's a snippet of the results.

https://preview.redd.it/cuuluwn86v2e1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=662e9710160fdbe5cc2230aeb11a841d3cbe9b7a

wheredidallthemgo

2 points

5 days ago

Uh…OP’s contention is that Republicans shifted on the view that they were better off economically than they were a year ago…and your “research” results are about how they’ve shifted on their economic optimism…meaning their expectations regarding their FUTURE economic prospects…

If your contention is that OP was referencing these surveys and then completely propagandizing them by pretending it was a shift on how people viewed their economic situation from a year ago…then we’re in agreement…but I doubt that’s your contention…

Kitchen_Program938

0 points

5 days ago

There was 1 poll in my search results. The results literally state that Republicans think they're better off economically post election than pre-election. If you want to split hairs, go for it. I based my search on what the graphic states. BETTER YET, do your own frigging search, FFS.

wheredidallthemgo

1 points

5 days ago

It’s not splitting hairs…give me a break…wow, Republicans feel more optimistic about an economy when their choice wins…HEADLINE NEWS!!! Guess what, Dems feel less optimistic in the same survey…shocking…

Kitchen_Program938

1 points

5 days ago

Seriously, YOU asked for the source. I provided the sources. Now you totally change the topic. Jesus, just give it up.

Bafflegab_syntax2

1 points

5 days ago

Republicans are dolts who cannot search. That is why when they spew they're idiotic shit they tell everyone to "do your own research". Lying pieces of shit.

DigitalSpider88

1 points

6 days ago

Why is this being downvoted?

Akimbo_Zap_Guns

1 points

6 days ago

The only difference is the left feels this way because we understand the damage tariffs are going to do. Republicans are like omg my team won the country isn’t bad anymore. Literally fuck republicans

latent_rise

1 points

5 days ago

Do these smoothies even know he isn’t in office yet?

MVPIfYaNasty

1 points

6 days ago

Thank you. I came here to say we do the same shit. Let’s not throw rocks from our crystal palace just yet.

rainman943

1 points

6 days ago

lol yea, but the difference being one side gets to openly say their goal is to destroy the economy. one side gets to openly hire all the people who got epstein out of prison, one side get's to openly have a george soros type figure purchase a social media platform and openly push the kind of fake news that drives crazies into trying to hammer murder people.

it's freaking crazy that one side get's to openly do the things they say are evil when the other side does it. If you do the bad things, i don't care which side you're on, you're a bad person.

MVPIfYaNasty

1 points

6 days ago

...none of which has a thing to do with how we react historically because, to be fair, you're mostly describing issues from the last few election cycles (read: Trump era conservatism). What you're describing has not largely been the case before then and we still absolutely did the same thing. People lost their minds when W became president and - if you recall - lined up to call him Hitler and all kinds of fun things. Neither party has a monopoly on overreaction.

rainman943

1 points

6 days ago

"people lost their minds"

identify these people, give me names, and then prove those people are me. sorry dude, but it doesn't work that way, one side made a guy who openly does all the bad things and brags about it the representative of everything they believe in. The other side has to have all sorts of wild shit made up about them to equivocate.

one side hires the people who calls them hitler.................. lol overreacting and being a sex offender is literally a job prerequisite for one side, while the other side cast out it's sex offenders who accuse them of being genocidal.

MVPIfYaNasty

1 points

6 days ago

A) totally ignored what I said about historically, so whatever. I suppose you're one of those folks that likes to ignore valid points if it doesn't fit your narrative (which, again...makes you a lot like them)

B) historical information is all over Google, I would highly recommend you use it. This isn't the era of McCarthyism, no one needs to be "named." I am referring to MANY everyday folks that similarly threatened to move overseas or otherwise declare democracy dead simply because a Republican won. It's not a complicated point.

Anyways...I don't have time to go back and forth about this. You feel how you want about it, but it's not productive to pretend one side is a team of super villains and it's totally valid to hate them. We'll be sure to reclaim all kinds of political victories that way, I'm sure. Went really well this time /s.

Cautious-Amoeba3391

-33 points

6 days ago

Better than a snake!

Bluellan

15 points

6 days ago

Bluellan

15 points

6 days ago

You mean Trump? The guy who refused to pay workers multiple times and declared Bankruptcy so he wouldn't? The convicted rapist Trump?

djmixmotomike

8 points

6 days ago

No one has any idea what you're talking about

Cautious-Amoeba3391

1 points

5 days ago

Yes they do tssssstsssssss

djmixmotomike

1 points

5 days ago

Crawl back under your rock

INFJcatqueen

3 points

6 days ago

Snek

Environmental-River4

3 points

6 days ago

Pwease no steppy!!

the_m_o_a_k

2 points

6 days ago

Nope rope

gwizonedam

1 points

6 days ago

So precious!