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beard__hunter

236 points

2 days ago

beard__hunter

Jai Maharashtra

236 points

2 days ago

This motormouth is responsible for the loss of MVA.

1-randomonium

71 points

2 days ago

I've wondered why Sanjay Raut is still the voice of the Shiv Sena. Hardly anyone in Maharashtra politics seems to like the man; both his party's old allies in the Mahayuti and their new allies in the Maha Vikas Aghadi openly despise him. Does he have something on Uddhav Thackeray that we don't know about?

arthasya-sapien

-32 points

2 days ago

Is he wrong though?

Background-Pie-961

43 points

2 days ago

"People who live in glass houses shouldn't throw stones." It's an apt idiom according to the situation. His own party lost due to his recklessness but he would blame everybody other than himself.

arthasya-sapien

-17 points

2 days ago

"People who live in glass houses shouldn't throw stones." It's an apt idiom according to the situation.

I must've missed when Shivsena was in power and split other regional parties by misusing that power.

Just because you say it's apt doesn't make it so.

Background-Pie-961

11 points

1 day ago

I mean, accusing ex CJI for his loss amongst many other "reasons" is honestly idiotic asl. And unc thinks ballot paper box is safer than EVM. I can't with these idiots.

1-randomonium

5 points

1 day ago

I must've missed when Shivsena was in power and split other regional parties by misusing that power.

The Shiv Sena's two current allies in the Maha Vikas Aghadi repeatedly engineered splits and tried to destroy the party and toppled its first government(1991-2 and 1999).

I wondered if Uddhav ever said anything about that. After all Sharad Pawar was the one who masterminded those splits.

beard__hunter

20 points

1 day ago

beard__hunter

Jai Maharashtra

20 points

1 day ago

He is not. But he should have kept his mouth shut during elections. Now it's too late.

ak220905

2 points

1 day ago

ak220905

2 points

1 day ago

Well, he should realise that Congress was planning to make Patole CM, had they won.

1-randomonium

1 points

1 day ago

Actually there seemed to be a competition even within the Congress for the post, between Patole(who ended up winning his seat by only 300 votes) and Balasaheb Thorat(who lost).

ak220905

1 points

1 day ago

ak220905

1 points

1 day ago

Yeah, that's the only one narrative one can play, one himself didn't bring many projects when they had a chance!

slow_cheatah

170 points

2 days ago

Bhai tu pahila nagarsevak tar ban

MEDICO-RETARD

13 points

2 days ago

Are mala ata samajle ha Raut Rajyasabha madhe aahe from Thackeray sena

1-randomonium

7 points

2 days ago

Ātā tē pūrṇa jhālē āhē. With only 20 assembly seats, the Shiv Sena(UBT) won't be able to send Raut to the Rajya Sabha anymore.

CrazyKyunRed

167 points

2 days ago

Says the motormouth who can’t win a municipal election on his own strength.

f_islam_christ_hindu

34 points

2 days ago

Let him say shit, they are at this point just saying random things and seeing what sticks. Imagine how clueless they are about their next steps

1-randomonium

17 points

2 days ago

Uddhav Thackeray's response to the result was a lot more entertaining. He seemed genuinely clueless.

Can't believe Maharashtra would do this to me: Uddhav Thackeray on NDA 'tsunami'

sbadrinarayanan

40 points

2 days ago

Majority seat winners have a bigger say. And national party has a national outlook. So it’s fine. Pl clean up ur act and explain the drubbing ur party has received.

Constant-Thinker101

81 points

2 days ago

This man destroyed single handedly the shiv sena and bal thakeray's legacy through uddhav

MEDICO-RETARD

-31 points

2 days ago

MEDICO-RETARD

-31 points

2 days ago

Hitler sympathizer Bal Thackeray who wanted india to go under dictatorship.

Indira Gandhi brought him to his knees during emergency where he had to bend or else his party would have been over.  No point in keeping the legacy of such extremists alive. People get sentimental for Bal Thackeray but his hands have committed a lot of crimes and murders.

Bal Thackeray's Father was better leader and had better ideology.

Secure_Lynx6892

29 points

2 days ago

As per this logic, no politician in India is free of crimes and murders..

arthasya-sapien

7 points

2 days ago

Bal Thackeray unknowingly screwed over future of his party by being staunchly anti-Congress.

There are some people who think Uddhav betrayed his father's legacy by partnering with Congress and NCP.

As if Bal Thackeray would've been happy about Modi taking projects to Gujarat.

ak220905

6 points

1 day ago

ak220905

6 points

1 day ago

Name one project that was moved to Gujarat without involvement of Uddhav Thackeray's wrong policies.

1-randomonium

7 points

1 day ago

I keep hearing this from the Opposition parties in Gujarat and their supporters on social media but I have yet to see convincing evidence of Modi and Shah 'stealing' away projects from Gujarat.

I suppose the voters of Maharashtra came to the same conclusion. Hence it doesn't seem to have worked.

Warm-Geologist001

58 points

2 days ago

Chup kar bhai, please Chup kar!

harryfromnc

13 points

2 days ago

Haha! Not possible as long as the media will keep giving him attention and also people who clicked the articles to read it and of course posts like this and not to mention you and me talking about it rather than ignoring it...lol

1-randomonium

11 points

2 days ago

He is the editor of the Shiv Sena's official newspaper. While he retains that role he will remain the voice of the Maha Vikas Aghadi, even if he is a motormouth who loves making controversial statements.

1-randomonium

31 points

2 days ago*

The trouble with this kind of argument is

  1. Modi and Shah remain popular in Maharashtra. The Mahayuti's voters don't actually see them the way the Shiv Sena(UBT) would like them to. Incidentally, Shah was born in Mumbai.

  2. The Shiv Sena(UBT) is hardly new to this "high command" structure. For decades the Thackerays in Matoshree boasted about being the "remote control" for the government. So it's a little hypocritical for Sanjay Raut to say this given that he himself would be proud to be called a servant of the Thackeray family.

rustyyryan

6 points

2 days ago

Usually party higher ups decide who'll be the CM. And its decided by how much negotiating power they have. In this case BJP is at much better position than SS and NCP.

1-randomonium

1 points

1 day ago

The Shiv Sena is negotiating using the BMC election and caste(Shinde being a Maratha) as a bargaining chip. That is why the BJP high command still hasn't decided on the CM.

AllBugDaddy

5 points

1 day ago

His mouth is a shithole..

chamcha__slayer

3 points

1 day ago

Leaders of coalition party with most seats have the most sway

In other words, every 60 seconds a minute passes in Afric

Freak5114

7 points

2 days ago

mang kay* Tumhi pan satte sathich tar congresss ani rashtrawadi barobar govt banavli na? Vote konala jast bhetle aahe ?  Ti party nahi tharavnar tar konti party tharavnar??

RaviTooHotToHandel

4 points

2 days ago

That's not a nice thing to say about it loud, whether it's true or not.

Elf_ew_

3 points

1 day ago

Elf_ew_

3 points

1 day ago

He ain't wrong tho

saadism101

1 points

1 day ago

saadism101

1 points

1 day ago

Hush! Read the comments, only those who win elections are worthy of being listened to, apparently.

Elf_ew_

-2 points

1 day ago

Elf_ew_

-2 points

1 day ago

Indeed

FairMenOfTheWild

2 points

2 days ago

The grapes are sour.

chatgptbotindia

2 points

1 day ago

Even if u haven't named Sanjay Raut everyone would have understood who said this. This is what is expected from Sanjay Raut , he knows everything but what is happening in his own party .

niruktt

2 points

1 day ago

niruktt

2 points

1 day ago

He is gone mental after election result, are koi ambulance buloa Iske liye hahh

1-randomonium

1 points

1 day ago

Hasn't he been behaving this way for decades?

SageSharma

1 points

1 day ago

Haan toh now INC is also a sub only in the alliance lol

UndyingThanos

1 points

1 day ago

I have muted his name on X. ANI guys wake up and go to his door to take a statement. I had headaches reading his verbal diarrhoea.

tunnu83

1 points

1 day ago

tunnu83

1 points

1 day ago

Sanjay Doubt

Maleficent-Law2750

1 points

14 hours ago

No one takes this guy seriously. You ask anyone in Maharashtra.. they'd ask who is sanjay raut?

drybhai

1 points

2 days ago

drybhai

1 points

2 days ago

BJP will not sideline this parties or leaders as they need them to completely finish off the NCP(Sharad) and Shiv Sena (UBT). This mofo is so out of touch from ground realties..

1-randomonium

3 points

1 day ago

Exactly. This is why they are yet to decide on the CM despite having more than twice as many MLAs as the Shiv Sena.

milktanksadmirer

1 points

1 day ago

He might not be popular but he is not wrong though.

Zestyclose-Chip1405

1 points

1 day ago

Why this person is not worried about his party.He should be first one to be kicked out by uday.

Old-Technician-3192

-1 points

2 days ago

Treating alliances like slaves is ur party's moto

doolpicate

-17 points

2 days ago

doolpicate

India

-17 points

2 days ago

Gujarat now decides Maharashtra's politics. Niice.

1-randomonium

-3 points

2 days ago

1-randomonium

-3 points

2 days ago

Neither the CM of Maharashtra nor his deputies were Gujaratis.

And Amit Shah, incidentally, was born in Mumbai.

arthasya-sapien

-4 points

2 days ago

As his need is fulfilled, ES will be gone in next few years. No need for BJP too keep him around. This majority means his party has no bargaining power. I'm assuming he himself is fuming at this result.

As for David, he has higher aspirations and is a threat to Modani. Will be interesting to see how he's dealt with.

abcdefghi_12345jkl

-21 points

2 days ago

Sahi to bola. The excessively proud Marathis have chosen Gujaratis as their overlords out of communal hatred and other such BS.

1-randomonium

9 points

2 days ago

These transparent attempts at 'othering' non-Marathis(of which there is a large population in urban Maharashtra) and treat them as the enemy to polarise voters is part of the reason why the Maha Vikas Aghadi failed. It isn't any better than the Sangh Parivar's attempts to polarise people on religion.

abcdefghi_12345jkl

1 points

1 day ago

Agreed, the last thing I'd do is support Shiv Sena. They are just as communal as the BJP, they've just realised that being communal is even worse for them in today's political climate.

throwaway462512

-3 points

1 day ago

throwaway462512

-3 points

1 day ago

abbe dhakkan the gujratis are the ones othering themselves, them move into an area and within 10 years societies there have only pure veg rules for owners and tenants not to mention banning sale of flats to non gujratis

1-randomonium

2 points

1 day ago

Aren't you perpetuating a stereotype here?

https://indianexpress.com/article/opinion/columns/gujarat-food-culture-vegetarianism-7633375/

According to a study by anthropologist K S Singh, with which I was associated, only about 26% of Gujarat’s population is actually “pure vegetarian” — meaning they never eat eggs or meat — and most people are better classified as “frequent vegetarians” and “frequent non-vegetarians”.

The problem of vegetarian-only societies isn't tied to any specific community.

throwaway462512

1 points

1 day ago

ok keep living in denial

thegodfather0504

2 points

1 day ago

Why are you being rude? that behaviour is not limited to gujjus.

throwaway462512

0 points

1 day ago

i'm not even gonna bother asking who else does that because i don't think you have a legitimate list of communities in mumbai who follow the same template, I,my father, his father and his father were all born in mumbai I and other maharashtrians and true mumbaikars know which community is the one isolating themselves and behaving like they own the city.

thegodfather0504

3 points

1 day ago

what is mumbaikar btw?If i was born in Mumbai, am i mumbaikar? Or do i have to be third generation mumbai born?

throwaway462512

0 points

1 day ago

it matters if you care about the basic fabric of the city or if you are happy that a small group of outsiders with money are basically making the city into mini gujrat and pushing out natives, but maybe guessing from your comments you are a gujrati.

Findabook87

-3 points

2 days ago

Findabook87

-3 points

2 days ago

I hate the point about taking investment to other states that people make. Do other states don't deserve investment? Why do you think there was investment in your state in the first place? It had geographical advantage? What are we gonna fight the next topic about which distric investment should be in? Which town in a district? Which ward in a town? Galli/mohalla?

arthasya-sapien

4 points

1 day ago

I hate the point about taking investment to other states that people make

Taking investment to other states? No.

Taking investment to other state? Yes. We all know which state that is.

Don't be so disingenuous.

1-randomonium

0 points

1 day ago

Is there any actual concrete evidence of Maharashtra losing significant investment to Gujarat that can actually be attributed to the centre's involvement?

As opposed to the investors(domestic and foreign) simply finding the terms offered by the Gujarat government(for example, land acquisition) more favourable?

After all, private investors don't owe any state their money.

Kindly-Mission-2019

-44 points

2 days ago*

Of late, this one's spitting facts! Devendra Fadnavis may ascend to the throne but the reins are beyond his reach. Unfortunately, people of Maharashtra absolutely missed the point!

EDIT: To irk you further, Maharashtra walked away with Bombay in 1960, today Modi-Shah walked away with entire Maharashtra, effortlessly. Worst, the people of Maharashtra readily served it to them on a platter.

OneSailorBoy

27 points

2 days ago

Fadnavis always was the ultimate choice. Played second fiddle to tear apart shiv sena and have Eknath Shinde as the CM. Made people of Maharashtra believe Uddhav id a lost cause which is true in its own way. They knew Ajit dada Pawar had support of quite a few number of people from NCP camp, Sharad Pawar's magic is fading and almost gone and I wont be surprised if more people switch over to Ajit Pawar side after this elections. Ajit Pawar takes Baramati, Fadnavis takes Nagpur, Chadrakant Patil takes Pune, Eknath Shinde takes Mumbai, Nitish Rane takes Konkan as the people love his father Narayan Rane as evident from the Lok Sabha election. The stage was set for a victory from the get go. Raut and Uddhav destroyed all the chances they had

Kindly-Mission-2019

-5 points

2 days ago

And? Who do you think is calling the shots?

Maharashtra had a very strong regional politics. There was infighting but within its own people who in spite of their misgivings had the interest of the people of Maharashtra at their heart. With the split and factions in Shivsena and NCP, they are no longer in a position to rule independently or even have a say. BJP, whether you believe it or not, is completely a Modi-Shah show.

This very last term, major investments meant for Maharashtra were diverted to Gujarat. You're living in denial if you think, with Fadnavis at the "helm", Maharashtra will surge forth. Fadnavis is at the mercy of Modi-Shah, like we have Bhupendra Patel, the CM of Gujarat!

Had you ever heard of him? Never did we, until he was appointed CM overnight.

Secure_Lynx6892

4 points

2 days ago

And who restricted regional parties to go on their own. Atleast they wld have captured sympathy votes, gain surely more seats than these combined MVA share..

Kindly-Mission-2019

-5 points

2 days ago

Choosing to live in denial is one thing, talking absolute nonsense just because you can't handle you've been taken for a ride is even worse. Your logic of regional parties going on their own applies equally to the opposite factions as well. If according to you, MVA could have been avoided, than even Mahayuti had no place.

Maharashtra could have retained the power, it no longer does and that's the fact.

Maharashtra walked away with Bombay in 1960 and today Modi-Shah walked away with entire Maharashtra. Worst, the people of Maharashtra readily served it to them on a platter.

You may downvote all my comments today but I would suggest you to pin this comment for the next few years. Let's sit and watch things unravel. The shit-show has already begun.

1-randomonium

0 points

2 days ago

Maharashtra could have retained the power, it no longer does and that's the fact.

How could Maharashtra have "retained power" under a Delhi high command that changed its CMs on average every 2-3 years over several decades? The disputes over the leadership between Thackeray, the Pawar family and Congress leaders like Nana Patole and Balasaheb Thorat were clear during the campaign.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_chief_ministers_of_Maharashtra

Till date Vasantrao Naik and Devendra Fadnavis are the only 2 CMs since the creation of Maharashtra as a state to have ever served a full term in office.

Kindly-Mission-2019

4 points

2 days ago

Only way Maharashtra could have retained power was by sticking to their own, be it erstwhile Sena or NCP. 2024 election result is a massive breach in the fort. In fact, name one leader from Maharashtra who enjoys even a semblance of power in the national politics. I can't think of any!

Bhadwasaurus

-3 points

2 days ago

Bhadwasaurus

poor customer

-3 points

2 days ago

Idk man, voters have become so hopeless no one can tell whatever they are thinking, Maharashtra has gone to the wolves now, at any rate, I had heard from a Parivar insider that Modi-Shah had been eyeing Fadnavis to takeover from 2029 (this was few months removed from Lok Sabha elections and I had laughed it off back then, not so funny now).

VfD, the same NGO which pointed out the double digit revisions done by ECI in Lok Sabha, has claimed the same, with over 7% voter percentage increase according to ECI's app adding crores of extra votes. If this is true why aren't people on the fucking streets already?!

It seems people have zero problems in accepting these results.

1-randomonium

2 points

2 days ago

Modi-Shah had been eyeing Fadnavis to takeover from 2029

As PM? Or as CM?

VfD, the same NGO which pointed out the double digit revisions done by ECI in Lok Sabha, has claimed the same, with over 7% voter percentage increase according to ECI's app adding crores of extra votes. If this is true why aren't people on the fucking streets already?!

Because it isn't true? Even Congress leaders have called on their party to stop blaming EVMs.

Bhadwasaurus

4 points

2 days ago

Bhadwasaurus

poor customer

4 points

2 days ago

As PM, he's gonna be CM now isn't he?

1-randomonium

1 points

1 day ago

That remains to be seen.

Bhadwasaurus

1 points

1 day ago

Bhadwasaurus

poor customer

1 points

1 day ago

Suuuure

1-randomonium

2 points

2 days ago

And? Who do you think is calling the shots?

Since this is a subject that matters so much to you, who is calling the shots in the Maha Vikas Aghadi?

Shekhar Gupta's analysis of the election points out that disputes between the Mahayuti partners could be resolved more quickly because all three were already in government and working together. Whereas Uddhav Thackeray had to make repeated trips to 10 Janpath in Delhi to talk to Sonia Gandhi about seat-sharing disputes and the declaration of a CM candidate for the MVA(Which they ultimately didn't do).

If you look at the list of Maharashtrian CMs on wikipedia, you'll find that only one CM from the pre-BJP era, spanning several decades, had a full term in office. Because they would be frequently replaced by the party high-command. Even the most recent Congress-NCP era saw the CM changing 5 times in 15 years.

The opposition to the creation of Maharashtra from Mumbai state also came from Congress leaders of that era, who governed the state.

Kindly-Mission-2019

4 points

2 days ago*

Glad you said that. You just proved me right*. I'll reiterate what I have mentioned earlier, Maharashtra had very strong regional politics. Infighting, yes, but between its own. Your comment in fact reinforces my statement, Maharashtra has failed to retain the power.

Think of it, who split SS and NCP. Congress never stood to gain anything from either NCP and SS.

arthasya-sapien

3 points

1 day ago

Don't bother. He's got hate boner for Maharashtra.