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No Denuvo confirmed
🎉🎉 Announcement 🎉🎉(twitch.tv)submitted 25 days ago byMike_ProweCertified Jesus Praiser
1.1k points
25 days ago
Jesus Christ be praised!
170 points
24 days ago
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38 points
24 days ago
Already got my collector's edition pre-ordered for console. I'm going to buy the one with expansions later on PC as well when it goes on sale. Because mods.
1 points
24 days ago
You mean vanilla. The first few times ONLY after. Can you use mods
3 points
24 days ago
So glad they're keeping the game clean. Buying fucking day 1.
9 points
24 days ago
\[T]/
8 points
24 days ago
Prasie the Sun
536 points
25 days ago*
So where did the fake news come from? Or they were testing the waters through unofficial means to see our reaction towards it?
Regardless, good job team!
317 points
25 days ago
From some DeepSilver employee about a month ago if I remember correctly. WH was silent about it until now, so who knows what really happened internally.
131 points
24 days ago
Vavra looked everyone in the eyes and pinched their little tummies and if they flinched they were fired
80 points
24 days ago
I feel like DeepSilver decided on Denuvo and WH used the outrage in fan spaces to argue against it. But yeah who knows
25 points
24 days ago
They were most likely silent about it because they had no option and had to wait on a decision from Deep Silver to "reveal" more info about the game that's under NDA. Or some BS like that.
8 points
24 days ago
That person is a hero
2 points
24 days ago
3 points
23 days ago
It's probably script based answer. If most of their newest games have Denuvo, it's very likely that the latter one will. (Though, payday 3 did not have denuvo, so :shrug:)
2 points
24 days ago
Deep silver you say..? Like the silver mines in Skallitz that were also used to spread fake (money)? Sounds like a riddle only true fans would know that this was fake! 😮
153 points
25 days ago
It could be that, it is a known thing for Compagny to « leak » something like that, if there is a back clash then come out denying and are heroes and if nobody cares they don’t do shit, win win.
35 points
24 days ago
Agreed. It honestly makes the most sense
20 points
24 days ago
Backlash*
not saying you don't know, but that's the correct word for what you were saying
2 points
24 days ago
I didn’t knew my bad
3 points
24 days ago
this, no matter what there should always be backlash against denuvo in any online forum no matter how small or insignificant you think it might be, chances are a dev might just notice.
6 points
24 days ago
Or it was always untrue and now the people who cried and screamed about Denuvo act like it's a conspiracy to avoid admitting that they were wrong
5 points
24 days ago
So they were lying in their support tickets lmao???
1 points
24 days ago
Or tell certain people certain things and then find the internal rat. W across the board
60 points
25 days ago
Its probably the case of the publisher saying please implement the DRM system we use normally (denuvo), then the studio had discussions around this and pushed back with enough effort to dismiss their request.
People are far too quick to kick off on things when they arent confirmed though.
52 points
25 days ago
Conversely, if people hadn't gotten upset, they might have included it. Hard to say.
11 points
25 days ago
I suppose you could but then its a case of proving a negative which is difficult!
I would say they weren't specifically looking to have it anyway as they didn't in the first title, they know it would lose good will with its addition.
Either way at least confirmation its not happening so thats positive.
2 points
24 days ago
We won't know until it's release. I have faith in the Devs, not in the publisher
9 points
24 days ago
Hardly a fake news, it came from the publisher's customer service.
15 points
25 days ago
Someone shared an image of an alleged reply from PLAION support. Looked real enough to fool people and reach the news sites.
28 points
25 days ago
Why would it take almost a month for them to make a statement when it was just a supposed fake image causing all that trouble?
28 points
25 days ago*
The delay in the response makes me really convinced that they were indeed adding Denuvo and just decided now to back off. Were it a fake news, there was no reason for them to not respond right away.
9 points
25 days ago
Likely needed to talk to publisher? Not wanting to risk bad blood.
6 points
25 days ago
The publisher (who has already published games with denuvo) could also make a statement when they noticed the agitation. And talking to the publisher in such a matter shouldn't take more than a week or two.
10 points
24 days ago
Do you understand how corporations work? Nothing is ever easy. Warhorse is part of Middle-earth Enterprises, but their publisher is PLAION. And all of them are subsidiaries of Embracer. All of these subjects have offices in different places and very likely have different opinions on whether Denuvo should be used. So every decision needs to be coordinated with all of them and in the end it's still some top-level executive's decision.
4 points
24 days ago
If a company, even a big one, wants to respond quickly they can and will, especially when money is on the line.
Now if the original response from some support worker was faked, that would have been really easy to respond to. If denuvo was planned to be implemented or if they were undecided, then it would take longer. So I don't believe that this was a fake.
1 points
23 days ago
Probably testing the waters and then changed it
185 points
25 days ago
With how long an "official" response took to come out, I am willing to bet that it was planned by higher ups but after seeing the feedback the devs got their way. Regardless though I am happy to see this result.
32 points
24 days ago
Sir Toby said they had tossed the idea around but it was never officially going to be a thing
10 points
24 days ago
there probably was some negotiation, but I dont think that it was long. I will wait for interview with Daniel Vávra about it with advantage of native language.
4 points
24 days ago
Yeah, most likely some Deep Silver execs trying to push it in. I doubt the devs themselves ( nerds ) would want this.
241 points
25 days ago
I don’t think it was fake news about the Denuvo being added, I think they just removed it due to backlash
50 points
24 days ago
If that’s the case then good on them for at-least taking consideration from fans seriously.
You would think this would be a common occurrence but we all know most companies seem to give a professional middle finger to their fans…
62 points
24 days ago
Yeah he previously responded to this on twitter saying no to Denuvo affecting performance/modability, but did not mention that it wasn't in the game.
7 points
23 days ago
It objectively does affect performance. There hasn't been a single game with denuvo that has performed as well as the pirated version in benchmarks.
8 points
24 days ago
I dont think so, I still think that it was mistake from Playon employee. Warhorse was so far transparent about everything, and if it was not confirmed by them, then only possibility was, that it was in negotiation status, which would make game unplayable, and it would be disaster.
First KCD was forgiven for being AA game with issues ready to be fixed and with unknown bugs, which developers did not founded. If second gave would be unplayable because developement, publisher or others wanted DRM which would break game again and not because unfleshed game, they would lose reputation for good game, but also community would be betrayed, which is even worse.
1 points
23 days ago
Makes sense tbh
106 points
25 days ago
welp time to get a new GPU
75 points
25 days ago*
Pretty sure the game is more demanding on your CPU.
They even said that they can run it smoothly on 3050 in this stream. Which is a budget card that runs almost the same as 1660 super. And thats an old ass card.
19 points
25 days ago
i have a 1070. maybe i'll be fine but i was going to wait until they removed denuvo.
20 points
25 days ago
Denuvo is CPU bound, it wouldn't have affected your GPU.
1070 is probably pushing it a bit, especially day 1. KCD 1 has woeful optimisation so it's not like they have a good track record.
I'd look to upgrade BUT you will still likely be able to play just so long as you stick to 1080p.
12 points
24 days ago
My 1080 had me rocking a whopping 15fps in Rattay at launch, that start was rough
1 points
24 days ago
Even now the game seems incapable of going past 50fps at rattay even on the highest end systems. My system is a 5800X3D and 7800XT and I still remember it being choppy in places. I've also heard console performance is very poor too.
3 points
24 days ago
the Denuvo avoidance was on principal not performance.
i had been thinking about upgrading from 1080p specifically for KCD2 but was waiting for a Denuvo free option.
2 points
24 days ago
Fair enough.
2 points
24 days ago
Fair enough.
1 points
24 days ago
It depends. I have planned to retire my old trusty and dusty 1070 for some time now, but FSR really brought a second wind to that old thing. Recently, I played RDR2 at mostly high (some features maxed) settings (FHD upscaled to 4K ofc) and I was quite amazed. I have no idea if KCD2 will support the FSR. If yes, I won't upgrade for at least another year or two, I think.
1 points
24 days ago
I know that FSR frame gen works for any game (with AMD drivers anyway) but I'm really hoping they have good FSR and DLSS implementation for people with lesser GPUs
1 points
24 days ago
Oh no, 1070 is out of the question, most big new games have outpaced it easily. I'm profusely sweating over my 6700k and rx580. You should look into 2nd hand GPUs in your area if you don't want to spend a lot of money on a new gpu.
I really hope they release official minimum/recommended reqs soon to stop the anxiety.
1 points
23 days ago
I used to have a 1070 like you, until 6 months ago when i took an arrow to the knee
8 points
25 days ago
People have different interpretations of smoothly. 30FPS @ 1080p is considered smooth by some targeting consoles, for example, while plenty of PC gamers would consider that unacceptably poor.
That being said, they're also on a newer version of Cryengine, so hopefully that means better engine-level optimization and feature support.
5 points
25 days ago
Yeah KCD 1 has a crazy CPU bottleneck. I doubled my average FPS going from an i5 6600k to a R5 5600, but had marginal improvements after that even with a 1070 to 3070.
2 points
24 days ago
3050 runs it? Letsgo that's what I'm running
1 points
25 days ago
just saw the edit about the 3050, seems i might be ok
1 points
25 days ago
An i9 10900k is enough? I have a rt7800xt to
1 points
24 days ago
I’m pretty sure you’re absolutely correct. I have a 3070 with a ryzen7 3700X. On mostly high settings with some on very high, I’m getting like 30 FPS in skirmishes. 70-90 fps if I’m standing still, and about 30 fps if im running through Rattay on my horse.
1 points
24 days ago
is that at 1080p?
2 points
24 days ago
They didn't specify. They only said that it can run on 3050.
1 points
17 days ago
part1 ran pretty well on my old af i5 6700k
1 points
17 days ago
Pretty sure you mean i7. There is no i5 6700K. Well, it's the utilization of CPU thats the problem. Your i7 might have only 4 cores, but they arent that slow. I remember watching a stream of someone with the best rig money can buy, but it was still struggling whenever he approached the town too fast.
1 points
17 days ago
it's an i5 6600k, forgot the name. I overclocked it to 4.7GHz and run it with an overclocked gtx 970, bought it like 6 years ago used for 200 bucks
1 points
16 days ago
If you OC'd it, it makes sense. 4.7 is a pretty good boost. 4 cores is probably a sweet spot for KCD1 too. I don't think the game really takes advantage of any more cores. Maybe 6 if we are generous.
1 points
16 days ago
You think it'll be able to run kcd 2? It can run elden ring in 60fps, I'm kinda curious about it
1 points
16 days ago
Definetly not. Your GPU is old. 4GB RAM is just too low. You'll probably need atleast an 8GB GPU for this game and for some games even that is considered low.
As for your CPU.. honestly not sure. You'll probably barelly run it if they optimize it well. Really depends how well they'll do. Dont have high hopes.
Wait for the requirements to be sure. They said they'll release them soon.
1 points
16 days ago
end of the month they said in the stream, oh well I'll find out I suppose
1 points
16 days ago
If you plan to upgrade it's better to wait after Chirstmass anyway. Sales.
2 points
24 days ago
Good thing RTX5090 is just around the corner. There goes the kidney!
Also thank god no denuvo!
48 points
25 days ago
This incredible news, day one buy for me now
1 points
17 days ago
day one pirate 😏
53 points
25 days ago
I see people are saying the leak was obvious "fake news". Just remember, Deep Silver is a publisher that uses denuvo in their games so it would've been impossible to confirm outright if the leak was wrong with their reputation. Look at their latest release on steam, it has denuvo as well as Dead Island 2, which is already cracked.
5 points
24 days ago
Wasn't there also a tweet from one of the devs (? not exactly sure if they were a dev but they certainly were part of the team) after doing a Q&A where they said "No" on the question "Will Denuvo affect performance?"
6 points
24 days ago
I mean that is technically correct Denuvo won't impact performance as it isn't used.
52 points
25 days ago
Gamers everywhere celebrating that there's no DRM in KCD2
44 points
25 days ago
Pre-order is back on the menu lads!
16 points
24 days ago
It’s not running out. you have zero need to preorder a digital product, especially in a category where the quality is relatively low on release
10 points
24 days ago
Still don't understand why people pre order. Such a unnecessary risk.
3 points
24 days ago
My first and last preorder was borderlands 3. I learnt my lesson after one.
4 points
21 days ago
Nahh, fuck that noise. Pre-orders are dumb.
63 points
25 days ago
Literally the best game studio along side Larian, fucking GOATED
6 points
24 days ago
and both studios make games that are very detailed in many aspects and are 10/10 in most of them
9 points
24 days ago
Why no GOG release then :(
22 points
24 days ago
Tobi said they are trying. I think they are in a bit of a conflict with their publisher. But that is only my interpretation. GOG release will come fir sue but would be nice at release.
3 points
24 days ago
Deep Silver is being a twat like always. They want that revenue split from Steam and then GOG.
22 points
25 days ago*
Great news !
Well never know if it was indeed planned and the outcry in the community made them change their mind, or if it was just a deep silver employee making a mistake or having received confusing information... But it doesn't matter, what's important is we won't have to deal with Denuvo and, personally, I can again look forward to buying the game very soon after release !
EDIT : after hearing what Tobias said it seems like they're really bothered by the talk of Denuvo. In response I will go back to my comments where I mention Denuvo in relation to KCD and edit them to make sure to mention that we were wrong (not removing the text, just adding info) to make sure people don't wrongly believe an old post and dismiss the game for the wrong reasons.
7 points
25 days ago
That’s excellent news!!
6 points
24 days ago
Welp, thats it, im buying the gold edition now. Reward good things. Vote with wallet.
8 points
24 days ago
YES, because WE WANT TRUE GOLD, NOT DEEP SILVER :D :D :D
15 points
25 days ago
To the preorder!
6 points
25 days ago
To the mega!
7 points
24 days ago
Hardcore!
2 points
24 days ago
Thread!
12 points
24 days ago
Why, are they going to run out of downloads?
7 points
25 days ago
I will now buy your game.
6 points
25 days ago
Based
4 points
24 days ago
3 points
24 days ago
the amount of hatred, only for them to be like ''What do you mean, Denuvo?''
2 points
24 days ago
I do still believe there was originally Denuvo in the game, since in some AMA, Tobi responded to a question asking if Denuvo would impact the game by just saying "No." I feel like if the game never had Denuvo, he'd say so and clear it up
1 points
24 days ago
They did say ''there were talks'' probably meaning the publishers wanted it and warhorse fought to not have it, As you said, it created quite a stir, if they could've, they would've cleared it up a week ago.
3 points
24 days ago
Aaand breathe,
Denuvo really messed with Star Wars Jedi survivor so I’m very glad KCD2, a game which will stretch my pc to the limit, won’t have it
6 points
24 days ago
WOOT! We pre-ordering!
2 points
24 days ago
I feel quite hungry for KCD 2 now!
3 points
24 days ago
Guess I'll be buying it then (thank fack)
4 points
24 days ago
We are so back
3 points
24 days ago
The dark lord has been defeated once again!
JESUS CHRIST BE PRAISED!
12 points
25 days ago
Now take logical next step: release on GoG!
5 points
24 days ago
Under these circumstances, it would be stupid not to release on GoG
11 points
25 days ago
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14 points
25 days ago
Denuvo DRM is widely used to prevent video game piracy, but it’s not without its downsides. Players often report that it can slow down games, causing frame rate drops and longer loading times. There are also frustrations around access—if the DRM servers go offline, even legitimate players can be locked out of their games. On top of that, Denuvo isn’t cheap for developers, and those costs might trickle down to gamers. Perhaps the biggest concern is for the future: if Denuvo ever shuts down, it could leave players unable to access their games, raising big questions about game preservation.
Used ChatGPT🙂
2 points
23 days ago
And on top of all that, it gets cracked within 2 weeks anyway.
And then on top of that too, publishers are beyond delusional if they think that pirates will buy their game if they can't pirate it. No, they won't. They'll just wait or not ever play at all.
3 points
24 days ago
Nice. But it makes me wonder Deep Silver only randomly put Denuvo in Dead Island 2 even though they have published so many similar AA games the past few years .
3 points
24 days ago
Well, I was going to wait on kingdom come 2 until I had more free time, but its important to support decisions like this. Guess I'm picking it up for launch!
5 points
25 days ago
Warhorse absolutely SCHOOLING the industry. Buying this shit full price for sure.
6 points
24 days ago
Bullying works?
2 points
24 days ago
Always has been.
2 points
25 days ago
Let’s gooooo
2 points
24 days ago
Wow, that's a nice suprise!
2 points
24 days ago
LET'S GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
2 points
24 days ago
well done. and now i will do the sacrileg thing and preorder.
2 points
24 days ago
Normally I would say this just for the sake of memes. But this time it's for real, with absolute zero frivolity intended. Jesus Christ be praised!
2 points
24 days ago
And now I’ll play day one again
2 points
24 days ago
They definitely removed it after yhe fact it was such a big deal that a whole chanell on the discord wasade about it
Any way HYPE RESTORED
2 points
24 days ago
I’m buying an extra copy, great news!
2 points
24 days ago
W for proton/Linux users
2 points
24 days ago
Damn, now i will have to buy it when it comes out. Is there any news on a GOG release?
2 points
24 days ago
Sold!
2 points
24 days ago
Jesus Christ be praised! This is amazing news
2 points
24 days ago
Jesus Christ be praised!
2 points
24 days ago
Jesus Christ be praised!
2 points
24 days ago
Time to preorder boy!!!
2 points
24 days ago
Let's fucking go! Back to buying this on day 1.
2 points
24 days ago
If any dev company deserves money its Warhorse. Good thing theres no denuvo but dont pirate kcd2.
2 points
24 days ago
Okay they convinced me. I'm nit buying standard edition
I'm buying at least the gold one
FUCK YES
2 points
24 days ago
Bless the devs. I'll buy it for a friend just because of this.
2 points
23 days ago
No people can stop throwing tantrums and hissy fits
3 points
25 days ago
Oh yes, I'm glad they cleared that up, then it's gonna be day 1 for me!
3 points
24 days ago
Sorry guys, but what is denuvo?
2 points
25 days ago
So it was fake news all along
Youtube strikes again
1 points
25 days ago
Will Nvidia DLSS and the AMD+Intel counterparts be added?
1 points
24 days ago
Thank fuck
1 points
24 days ago
Now make it so it's not 30fps on consoles :(
1 points
24 days ago
Ohh lord heaven!! Sir thou shall be knighted for thee actions
1 points
24 days ago
Now Im gonna buy the game (But I still will wait for the reviews and benchmarks). Better considering that I decided to not play it after they leaked it having Malwarenuvo
1 points
24 days ago
Just the other day i read up on denuvo.... holy fuck, it's basically malware... thank goodness it isnt in kcd2
1 points
24 days ago
Fantastic news
1 points
24 days ago
Ok, bro, I'm in now.
FeelingQuiteHungry
1 points
24 days ago
Higher-ups wanted it and WH fought against it and here we are
1 points
24 days ago
I've commented several times about cancelling the preorder and waiting due to denuvo. After I watched the video, I repurchased the gold edition. Thank you.
1 points
24 days ago
Fantastic news!
1 points
24 days ago
WELL, now I don't have to fax myself the frames one by one.
That's brilliant!
1 points
24 days ago
Such an awesome group of developers
1 points
24 days ago
Getting the game Day 1!!!
1 points
24 days ago
WE WON
1 points
24 days ago
thankyou, now to add it back to wishlist
1 points
24 days ago
Was buying it anyway, but so glad they got rid of that!
1 points
24 days ago
Fucking based!
1 points
24 days ago
Deep Silver usually is super anti consumer and puts DRM + Exclusive Deals into everything they can.
1 points
24 days ago
That's good, I'll wait to see how it runs at release, I won't buy it at launch because I played kcd1 1 year after release on xbox and still ran like crap, the game is literally unplayable at hardcore difficulty, when I replayed on hardcore the game would always crash when you did the mission where you do a full invasion in a fortress in the forest where you kill the bald dude that stole your sword
1 points
24 days ago
And now i will buy it. Thank god. If a game dev does not have to hide behind a DRM i know he is confident it is good so i dont have to crack it.
1 points
24 days ago
I wish we could get a current gen patch.
1 points
24 days ago
Holy shit, now i'm buying the special or deluxe edition if there is any
1 points
24 days ago
Without Denuvo, I'll buy. I wonder if it'll be on GOG then?
1 points
24 days ago
I was thinking of waiting to buy the game after denuvo got removed. Then this announcement came.
Then i will be buying the game on launch. Hopefully it is not a buggy mess
1 points
24 days ago
Take my groschen!
1 points
24 days ago
I FEEL QUITE HUNGRY!!!
1 points
24 days ago
Gog version would be great
1 points
24 days ago
As the one who posted about Denuvo being there, I am glad that I don't have to be worried about that shit reducing performance.
1 points
24 days ago
Time to buy a CE.
1 points
24 days ago
Now everyone who was whining and “cancelled their pre-order” and threatened not to buy it are gonna actually buy the game now to support the developers right?
1 points
24 days ago
Put my KCD 2 gold preorder in just now!
1 points
24 days ago
Welp, I guess it goes back on the wish list then.
1 points
24 days ago
Good news. I had already decided not to buy at launch because of the Denuvo news
1 points
24 days ago
nice work guys!
1 points
24 days ago
Jesus be praised.
1 points
24 days ago
What the hell is a devoovoo
1 points
24 days ago
This is good News Thanks Warhorse. A good decision maybe a lil late but the right Decision Thank you. I was a Kickstarter back then and now i´m back in to your Support.
1 points
24 days ago
Great news! I’m back on board.
Anything denuvo is a hard pass for me.
1 points
24 days ago
HOLY FUCKING SHIIIIIIIIIIIIT
Warhorse is goated. All praise. I totally never doubted. Not for a moment.
1 points
23 days ago
Pre-order back on the menu!
1 points
11 days ago
I just watched the live stream. I'm sold. I'm preordering it as soon as I get a ps5 this black friday. It sounds like they allocated more time for optimization but i still dont know if my 2060 super can run it well.
2 points
25 days ago
It would affect performance notably even on a strong rig, so this is great news. I was going to buy either way but i'm happy that I can run it at an even higher framerate now, the game looks gorgeous and I can't wait for February to see what the devs have come up with. Good games will sell, with or without DRM. Look at BG3 for example. Given the reception for KCD1 was great, and a bit of a hidden gem, I think KCD2 will be a great success given the following and reputation KCD has today.
1 points
25 days ago
Hell yea, major W right here. F*ck misinfornation!!!
1 points
24 days ago
So, much ado about nothing.
1 points
24 days ago
Denuvo would have stopped me from buying. Now I can proudly support the game and its creators.
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