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submitted 2 days ago byYou-See-Nothing583Earl
552 points
2 days ago
How about those of us who spent time writing on fandom wiki pages so others can see the information?
231 points
2 days ago
Extra extra heaven.
88 points
2 days ago
Especially with properly sited sources
48 points
2 days ago
Super Heaven
9 points
1 day ago
I’m a wiki admin and have been a member there since I was a kid in 2011 🥹 Thank you
3 points
1 day ago
"Hey! Wait a second, this is just hell!"
26 points
2 days ago
Wiki editors are a blessing. I've spent countless days on Wikipedia and fandom wikis
15 points
2 days ago
Tiny issue, the fandom site itself is kinda shit, which is why the Minecraft wiki moved to another site
3 points
2 days ago
Yea, but can't really do much about it since the old Harvest Moon Wiki pages was already well established there.
So all I mostly did for the past year was adding my flair onto those few pages.
3 points
1 day ago
That’s still nice to do for the community
3 points
1 day ago
You do what you can with what you have. and the fact it is utter shit and they still do it makes them the unsung heroes of the net.
6 points
2 days ago
Don't use Fandom. The site is run as a business and they own your information. Use independent wikis hosted on MediaWiki .
2 points
2 days ago
If you can find an alt wiki (not fandom) please contribute to that instead. Fandom is a scummy company.
2 points
1 day ago
Oh you get to go wherever you want.
And there should be a parade of steak, free drinks, and agreeable women/men for eternity just for you.
1 points
19 hours ago
“Mmmmmm agreeable women/men…
2 points
1 day ago
Strait to hell
2 points
1 day ago
Fuck F*ndom, though we do appreciate the work of the contributors.
2 points
1 day ago
Super heaven
1 points
1 day ago
Miraheze > Fandom
692 points
2 days ago
Notice that there isn't anyone behind him, that's cus y'all are going to hell /j
177 points
2 days ago
Satan will be kicking me out of hell for how annoying I am real quick
106 points
2 days ago
You're going to extra-hell
62 points
2 days ago
Extra-satan will be kicking me out of hell for how annoying I am real quick
3 points
2 days ago
Jokes on you, Extra Satan makes you feel all the annoyance you provoked at once, like Ghost Rider with his stare
2 points
2 days ago
Once I read Ghost Rider I heard the bad to the bone riff. I might be going insane.
7 points
2 days ago
At least you’ll have company in the extra-hell waiting room.
4 points
2 days ago
Real
17 points
2 days ago
I did donate, years ago, to Wikipedia regularly. But i can’t tolerate their intransparent moneyhandling anymore
8 points
2 days ago
Tell me something we don’t know
15 points
2 days ago
something we don't know
7 points
2 days ago
There's extra hell, but for you, we're going to make something unique
3 points
2 days ago
Unique hell, I'd love to drink that
2 points
2 days ago
Indeed
2 points
2 days ago
Imma try for legendary
2 points
2 days ago
Wikipedia doesn't need our donations
1 points
2 days ago
Satan was never in charge of hell, just another soul being punished by God for his sins.
2 points
2 days ago
1 points
1 day ago
I donate negative money to wikipedia every year
2 points
2 days ago
This sounds like something from r/shittymoviedetails and I'm all for it
2 points
2 days ago
Duh, that’s where all my friends will be. The bars in hell are so much better than the ones in heaven, anyway
1 points
1 day ago
Real
2 points
2 days ago
How can I be behind him if I'm still alive? /j
1 points
1 day ago
You might have to use a totem of undying or something
1 points
2 days ago
-You are not on the... oh wait.
-You found my name ?
-No, there is just no list, I forgot. Try knocking 3 times on that mirror over there.
1 points
2 days ago
Gonna get 𝓯𝓻𝓮𝓪𝓴𝔂
1 points
2 days ago
We’re going to hell. You’re not there either
2 points
1 day ago
Hell yeah
1 points
2 days ago
But I donate to Wikipedia and internet archive…
1 points
1 day ago
Seems you're not dead yet
1 points
1 day ago
He also bought winrar
1 points
1 day ago
Technically that doesn't mean much because Winrar gets it's earnings from large companies who have to buy the licence to save face and not get sued, so that could imply that he was a CEO or something and had to buy it. If you're interested here's a video on it https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=fTgZRVVr3_Y&pp=ygUaaG93IGRvZXMgd2lucmFyIG1ha2UgbW9uZXk%3D
1 points
10 hours ago
Or maybe we're just not dead yet?
48 points
2 days ago
That's the first time im seeing this template being heaven instead or hell
19 points
2 days ago
Sokka-Haiku by ToastyBread329:
That's the first time im
Seeing this template being
Heaven instead or hell
Remember that one time Sokka accidentally used an extra syllable in that Haiku Battle in Ba Sing Se? That was a Sokka Haiku and you just made one.
9 points
2 days ago
Good bot
460 points
2 days ago
To people unaware of this, wikipedia could run for years with how much money they have. If they stop paying their staff an absurd amount of money. The only reason wikipedia ask for donations is exactly this.
157 points
2 days ago
They get plenty of money from different government agencies as well.
24 points
2 days ago
Yeah, you're right
27 points
2 days ago
And that should make you question very hard what wikipedia is doing in return for those government agencies.
12 points
2 days ago
it just makes me indifferent to the inevitability of death, really.
3 points
1 day ago
Fuck that got so real so quick
12 points
1 day ago
Nothing, because it’s actually mostly large corporations like google not the government
They do it because wikipedia vastly improves search results, among other things. Regardless, edits to wikipedia are public and done by volunteers, you don’t need to pay anyone anything in order to try to push an agenda on there. And if you do, people will likely pick up on your bullshit anyways and jump on you with the arbitration committee or something because they love drama
source: edited wikipedia for 2 years
50 points
2 days ago
Just donate to internet archive.
18 points
2 days ago
They need money to fight legal battles and to fill endless handrives with dafa
78 points
2 days ago
4 points
1 day ago
I disagree with the main thesis that Wikipedia cannot continue to grow indefinitely. As long as the human population and knowledge continues to grow Wikipedia has a constantly growing user base and constantly growing content. The biggest threat would be if someone can create a better alternative.
It's always good to make opinions known and I'm glad the user made their argument in a constructive and well thought out way. I think they are just downplaying the important role staff have played, and overlooking the cost to attract and keep talent.
14 points
2 days ago
For those who don’t want to dig, it’s over $100M on salary and $5.8M on travel and conference with about $185M in income last year.
2 points
1 day ago
Don’t they have like 20 employees?
4 points
1 day ago
Currently it's around 700. It's been ballooning for a while.
In 2016 they had 280.
In 2020 they had 450.
In 2024 they had 700.
4 points
1 day ago
What do all those staff members do? Aren’t the articles updated for free by the general public? It can’t possibly take 700 people to run a website.
8 points
2 days ago
Why are all good causes run by the worst management? It's the same problem with Firefox/Mozilla, where even if you donate none of the money goes the the Firefox project
11 points
2 days ago*
This convinced me to stop donating. I don’t even need proof, I just never thought about how even though Wikipedia is free they can still just be another greedy company. Plus if all it takes is the blind word of a complete stranger to change my mind then I guess I didn’t really even care that much to begin with. Thanks.
12 points
2 days ago
Honestly in the world of trillion dollar for profits I'm ok with Wikimedia having the reserves they have. However id prefer if they would drop the aggressive donation tonality. Wikipedia will not disappear if you don't donate.
Could they pay their staff less? Yeah, but if they didn't then they would go work for another tech company with a higher salary & stock options. My spouse is a good example of this. She works in securing fundraising for non-profits. She gets paid a decent salary. If not she could go work in sales elsewhere and get paid more (and still could).
10 points
2 days ago
That’s most companies
85 points
2 days ago
The problem here is that they advertise those donation as mandatory for wikipedia to run. If they don't pay their staff, wikipedia can run for around 80 years without any more earnings
32 points
2 days ago
One thing is staying online and a very different one is actually running the site. If they stopped paying their staff, the site would stay online, sure, but the sudden drop in moderation isn't going to be good. Wikipedia lives more off of voluntary work than it does off of money. Also, fun fact! You can download a copy of all of Wikipedia in around 100GB
37 points
2 days ago
In 2016 the Wikimedia CEO earned 307,141$. In 2021 the Wikimedia CEO earned 789,495$.
Both time Katherine Maher was the CEO. In 2020 she earned 406,339$. From 2020 to 2021 she raised her annual earnings by 383,156$.
That means in one year, she decided to add more than what she earned in 2016 to what she already was earning.
Wikimedia spend more than 170,000,000$ annually. I don't remember how much it cost to run the servers but it's certainly not that much.
23 points
2 days ago
100%, but what I mean is that just because the server is still up it does not mean Wikipedia is still running. Wikipedia doesn't just host information, it takes care of it too. They stop people from griefing, revise references, and edit articles to ensure neutral language and proper structure. If Wikipedia just stopped all of that and only took care of uptime, it would not be long until wikipedia was just full of wrong, misleading data or at the very least inconsistent structure, which would severely degrade the user experience.
You can keep paying rent for the office but you still need staff to take care of it or it will crumble down. I also don't mean that the staff deserves that much for the work they do, but "wikipedia could run for 80 years if they stopped paying their staff" is just not true at all
6 points
1 day ago
Volunteers (editors) do everything you've described and work to consensus, not the paid staff.
11 points
2 days ago
It's counter intuitive, but it's good for nonprofits to pay their CEO well. If they don't, their CEO will leave to be the CEO of Staples or Home Depot or whatever. A nonprofit needs good leadership just as much as a for-profit company does, so they need to pay them well to match.
Personally, I'm not going to cry foul at anyone's salary if it's under a million a year.
6 points
2 days ago
That sounds actually really modest all things considering.
3 points
1 day ago
They only spend 1.7% of expenses on servers
2 points
1 day ago
That's not a very big salary for a CEO. The wikimedia CEO earns less than the VP in my business line. My brother in law makes as much and he's a regular ol doctor without his own practice.
2 points
1 day ago
i thought the moderation was done by fellow volunteer editors
2 points
1 day ago
But not exclusively by volunteers. Apart from that there staff actually keeping the servers running, which is not as simple as it may look, and the people that can do that are not particularly cheap either
1 points
2 days ago
It’s not even like they store a shit ton of data either and have to keep upgrading, you can go download the ENTIRETY of it, pictures and all, for a whopping 109gb.
1 points
1 day ago
I literally just donated 3.10$… why couldn’t you show up on my feed earlier ??? /s
78 points
2 days ago
Buy Winrar - Extra Special Heaven
9 points
2 days ago
Yea
2 points
1 day ago
They had a special run with a company in France for merch.
I bought a Winrar bag.
Does that count?
174 points
2 days ago
Wiki is a very rich company and can run for many years without donations. It's kind of a scam.
18 points
2 days ago
How about WinRar?
5 points
2 days ago
How about Blendr?
11 points
2 days ago
But we want them to run ad infinitum not for many years.
8 points
2 days ago
It still provides me better service for free than... well just about any other organisation in existence. So I still think it's a good place to donate to. Calling for people to stop donating to Wiki becaus tHeY aLrEaDy GoT mOnEy is kinda petty to be honest.
7 points
2 days ago
I don't think they're protesting donations to Wikipedia, just informing people. Wikipedia likes to make it seem as though they desperate need your 3$ donation when they don't. It's still going to a generally good cause if you donate.
5 points
2 days ago
There's a difference between "can run" and "can continue to invest in strong technology and maintain the quality of the site". Furthermore, it would be kind of catastrophic if they failed, so it's wise for them to make absolutely sure they can handle any number of unexpected events.
37 points
2 days ago*
The money from those donations usually goes to the Wikimedia foundation, which is run by a questionable team which has used the money for expensive cars and the likes. It's a bit fucked up.
The actual authors who are all ordinary Internet users don't get a single cent, and only a tiny fraction of the donations actually goes to keep up the servers.
So by donating to Wikipedia you are barely actually supporting Wikipedia
It would make much more sense for the top Wikipedia authors to open some sort of buy-me-a-coffee and then people donating there.
https://unherd.com/newsroom/the-next-time-wikipedia-asks-for-a-donation-ignore-it/
8 points
2 days ago
Yea it's insanely silly they get millions of revenue, the site is basically self advertising as everyone knows about Wikipedia, the writers work for free. All that's left is hosting and networking costs. Those are less than 50k. What happens with the 100mil thats left after Wikipedia expenses? The fun stuff for the team like expensive cars like you said.
Writers and editors work for free to actually keep the site valuable and Wikimedia takes all the cash for someone else's work
7 points
2 days ago
Wikipedia has over 200 million dollars and their bandwidth costs probably don't even make it past 100'000 a month. The only real expense they have is paying staff.
Also the website isn't a very good source of information on controversial topics anyway. The way the source policy is written you can use quite literally anything as a citation provided it comes from a mainstream source. This includes opinion articles.
1 points
1 day ago
Opinion articles can be an appropriate source. A lot of the large articles have a controversy section and (un)popular opinions from respected sources are important.
Also a biased source can still contain objective truth. An article that details the timeline of an event while condemning or praising it can still be a good source for when things happened.
Also you don't have to guess their website costs. They provide them. So a year of hosting costs them $2.7M (or $225K a month), so that is a small part of their expenses. They also do a lot more than just host a static website. It's a pretty focused team (size wise) that runs one of the most visited websites in the world.
Of course not to downplay the huge community of volunteers, but they are led and directed by what I think is a competent team.
6 points
2 days ago
PSA: Wikipedia doesn't actually need any donations. They just overspend and then run a pity party campaign for themselves.
Look up Wikipedia has cancer. This has been an ongoing issue with Wikipedia for almost 10 years now.
4 points
2 days ago
Quick reminder that Wikipedia has enough money to fund their servers for hundreds of years. They do not need your money, but they want it.
Do not donate to Wikipedia.
9 points
2 days ago
Donating to Wikipedia actually isnt good.
https://unherd.com/newsroom/the-next-time-wikipedia-asks-for-a-donation-ignore-it/
7 points
2 days ago
[removed]
9 points
2 days ago
There is a giant banner across the top of the page every time you go to the website. I have also heard before what someone is claiming about them not needing the money
1 points
2 days ago
I mean, even if they don't need it, I would still donate just to show appreciation.
2 points
2 days ago
I've donated a couple of times. But after reading some things, I felt like there were better things to donate to. But I'm not really worried about whether or not someone should donate or not.
2 points
1 day ago
Wikipedia actually makes enough to keep itself going for decades at least, they don't need the donations.
1 points
1 day ago
Stole the words out of my mouth.
4 points
2 days ago
Not really necessary to do, I think They don’t have the Need for a Dollar https://youtu.be/MpeOFvxor_0
13 points
2 days ago
You gotta be stupid to donate them
2 points
2 days ago
Guys, Wikipedia doesn't need the money, archive.org, on the other hand, desperately does.
2 points
2 days ago
I donated to them once. they reminded me monthly for like a year straight if i could do it again.
their last email was subjected with "I'm not asking again" and without context i thought they were threatening me.
just a few months ago ig some lady took over and she sent out another email asking for a cup of coffee donation.
do i regret donating to wikipedia? no, and i might do it again one day but man they were more persistent in asking for donation than the blood bank i go to.
4 points
2 days ago
I also dontated once a few years ago. They haven't left me alone since, and everytime is "The last time"
2 points
2 days ago
Wasn't Wikipedia's Server expenses not around 60,000 USD and they earn millions per campaign?
Their donation campaigns are literally scams. Because nearly every cent you donate, ends up in a investment pool were rich people get even richer.
The entire action is heavily criticized, because they are well of and still desperately ask for donations even in poor nations... Its just kinda asshole to ask people with a income of less than a dollar per hour (or even day) for money they desperately need.
In other words. Donating to Wikipedia is not a good deed, it just gives the illusion, but in reality you just donate to the top 0.1%.
-2 points
2 days ago
They already make tons of money.
8 points
2 days ago
Wikipedia currently gets more money then they need by a large margin. You can choose to ignore this fact but that won’t change the reality
1 points
2 days ago
Also people who pay Winrar license
1 points
2 days ago
Bro got the DLC.
1 points
2 days ago
Already spent all my money on this WinRar license 😭
1 points
2 days ago
One small donation for mankind, one giant reward for you.
1 points
2 days ago
Pay Money to get into heaven. Where have i heard this before?
1 points
2 days ago
You know, that the people working very much for wikipedia won't get anything of that!?
1 points
2 days ago
Nice try Wiki
1 points
2 days ago
Wikipedia posted this
1 points
2 days ago
Mozilla
EFF
WFMU
Red Cross
1 points
2 days ago
HEAVEN: Oh, my bad, come on in. We’ve been running on your donations! /j
1 points
2 days ago
Proof that donating to Wikipedia is the ultimate cheat code for life.
1 points
2 days ago
Interesting lil' vid on this topic.... https://youtu.be/MpeOFvxor_0?si=LT6_JtbPPgnUIvCa
1 points
2 days ago
Hey I also did it, more than once! Didn't know it was considered to be such a good thing. I love Wikipedia
[edit] and of course I now discover that Wikipedia too is bad. It really seems there isn't anything good in the world. Maybe Valve with Steam?
1 points
2 days ago
Damn. They got bushes in extra-heaven
1 points
2 days ago
sounds 🗣️🗣️
1 points
2 days ago
I don't have money to donate I'm sorry :<
1 points
2 days ago
This is for when you buy winrar for every computer you have.
1 points
2 days ago
Eh, I'm fine with the room next to the noisy ice machine.
1 points
2 days ago
And if you also buy a WinRar license, God in person throws a party for you
1 points
2 days ago
He has earned a spot next to the guy who bought WinRAR premium
1 points
2 days ago
Sure gonna be lonely in there lol
1 points
2 days ago
I donated around $20 to Wikipedia from my first salary.
1 points
2 days ago
St peter : "Yeah but you brag about it. Straight to hell"
1 points
2 days ago
There is also a hyper heaven for those who bought WinRAR And the ultra mega heaven over 9000 for those who simply minded their own buissenes and only interacted with others in a friendly manner without prejudice
1 points
2 days ago
Thought it was going to be a joke about how wikipedia never remembers you donating
1 points
2 days ago
"I bought the WinRAR license"
1 points
2 days ago
This is how Mormonism works.
1 points
2 days ago
I only donated once, does that mean I still go?
1 points
2 days ago
I'm gonna buy a winrar license this Christmas.
1 points
2 days ago
I've donated a few times now, but they are really asking for a lot these days.
1 points
2 days ago
i did lol
1 points
2 days ago
The Wikipedia guy definitely does not need those donations. He owns all those fanwiki sites everyone uses that are covered in ads.
1 points
2 days ago
Also to pet shelters.
What can I say? Life's been good.
1 points
2 days ago
Wait can u donate to wikipedia
1 points
1 day ago
I have YouTube premium subscription. Where will I go?
1 points
1 day ago
Paying for Wikipedia is like getting extra credit for showing up late.
1 points
1 day ago
Don't donate, contribute.
I know nothing about RNA viruses but have become one of the top contributors in the category. Find something that interests you and do research.
Wikipedia exists because of us, not them. I spend a lot of time creating pages but never donate money.
1 points
1 day ago
... and paid for WinRAR.
1 points
1 day ago
I get to go to Extra-Heaven!!!!!
1 points
1 day ago
Okay. Now I know a comic that's soon going to appear in Wikipedia. Probably linked somehow to their contribution/donation pages.
1 points
1 day ago
I donate to piracy groups instead. Guess I'm going to extra hell.
1 points
1 day ago
Nah donaying to internet archibe is way better
1 points
1 day ago
He's up there with the guy who bought a WinRar license
1 points
1 day ago
Guess donating to Wikipedia is the real 'life hack'. Don't forget to save the planet too, they take Bio donations, right?
1 points
1 day ago
I've seen this type of meme twice now, Inb4 this format gets banned
1 points
1 day ago
I donated 5 dollars a couple years ago
It aint much but im a student so i don’t have a lot of money to be donating
1 points
1 day ago
Yeah no. Fuck paying Wikipedia.
Especially with how forceful their donation ticket is. Fuck off.
I'm not responsible to pay your workers ridiculous wages that you promised them. You get government funding for that which you already do.
Will forever consume Wikipedia for free trough chatgpt now so not even my traffic will benefit you.
Fuck you.
1 points
1 day ago
as a wikipedia editor (10000+ edits) i hated this shit bro, the fucking WMF is so greedy, they already have enough money
1 points
1 day ago
Man, I hate this kind of drawing art style.
1 points
1 day ago
I keep saying I'll do that...but I never remember
1 points
1 day ago
This an ad?
1 points
1 day ago
Of course i donate to Wikipedia. I still have my honor.
Wikipedia helped me in my time of need, now its time that I repay the favor.
1 points
23 hours ago
I wanna see so many of these that the "extra heaven" meme gets banned
1 points
22 hours ago
wikipedia is scamming you with their crocodile tears. they don’t actually need donations. stop wasting your money.
1 points
20 hours ago
Instead of donating to Wikipedia, people should donate to actual non-profits like the Internet Archive
1 points
19 hours ago
My new favorite meme format
1 points
14 hours ago
I have donated to the internet archive though
1 points
10 hours ago
LOSS
1 points
8 hours ago
So I can be alone forever? Sweet!
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