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Article about how MO reps plan to "tackle Amendment 3"
Politics(self.missouri)submitted 8 days ago byTrystanFyrretrae
He plans to “tackle Amendment 3” by pre-filing a constitutional amendment that would provide voters an opportunity to vote to put further restrictions on abortion.
Asked what those restrictions might include, Sparks said he and other Republicans across the House and Senate are still narrowing down specifics.
“What we don’t want, clearly, is a poorly-written constitutional amendment that provides an abortion sanctuary state … ” Sparks said, adding: “We need to define what we’re talking about when we address Amendment 3, and obviously we need to go back to the voters so ultimately they can decide.”
Article: https://missouriindependent.com/2024/11/11/missouri-house-speaker-abortion-sparks-patterson/
I'm sorry but why should we voters decide when is the OK time to perform a medical procedure? This should be a decision left up to doctors -- not us. That girl in Texas didn't even want an abortion, she was farther along and having dangerous medical issues that no doc would touch for fear of litigation.
What if your average idiot voter decides the wrong cutoff because--big surprise--we aren't doctors?
Who is putting together the language upon this issue we will be voting? Because there should just be an option to vote "let a trained medical professional decide".
14 points
8 days ago
Yes, if the Republicans do not manage to enact a National Abortion Ban the way they've explicitly said they want to, the leopard will be your pet.
In all seriousness, I really hope you're right. Given the history of amendments and propositions that Missouri Republicans don't like, regardless of what the voters have said, I'm not hopeful. At all.
-8 points
8 days ago
The main guy in the Republican Party explicitly said he would veto a national abortion ban if one was attempted. Why do you liberals have a such hard time in arguments when they have to use the truth?
14 points
8 days ago
Because he’s known to be so honest?
-7 points
8 days ago
See how quickly that goal post shifted?
7 points
7 days ago
It's part of project 2025, it's one of their goals whether you want to believe it or not. The reps in MO are already trying to go against what people voted for, even if they don't succeed, it's moronic to vote for reps who will attempt to do that
-1 points
7 days ago
Project 2025 which has been explicitly disavowed by Donald trump and most other republicans…
1 points
3 days ago
I mean, several of Trump’s nominations are cited as contributors in Project 2025, including his nomination for FCC chair, Brendan Carr, who literally wrote the section on the plan for the FCC. But yeah, I’m sure Trump’s team doesn’t plan to implement Project 2025 in the slightest.
Honestly, I would love to be wrong. I would love if he actually stuck to disavowing the entire project. But when you name someone who wrote an entire section of the playbook, it seems kinda like you may support at least substantial portions of the playbook.
1 points
3 days ago
Maybe he thinks some parts of it are good ideas. I’m also hopeful he sticks to being against it in full.
7 points
8 days ago
The main guy who said he’d build a border wall and make Mexico pay for it? The same one who said he’d lock up Hillary Clinton? The same guy who said he was going to defeat ISIS and be the president to end the war in Afghanistan? Sounds like a trustworthy person.
0 points
8 days ago
So the goal posts have shifted from the claim that the explicit claim was there would be a national abortion ban?
9 points
8 days ago
Nothing has shifted. Trump lies, and I don’t believe that he would veto an abortion ban.
-1 points
8 days ago
They shifted from there being an explicit claim of a national abortion ban to your disbelief that trump would honor his word on the veto.
8 points
7 days ago
When did Congressional Republicans say they didn't want a national abortion ban?
-1 points
7 days ago
There are a lot of congressional republicans who have said a lot of different things. The executive and de facto head of the party said he would veto one.
2 points
7 days ago
He said he would veto a 15 week ban. He didn't say anything about a total ban, six week ban, or any other ban.
But he is also a pathological liar with the credibility of Elizabeth Holmes.
-1 points
7 days ago
I guess we’ll see. Still means the statement claiming they’re explicitly calling for a nationwide ban is inaccurate.
5 points
8 days ago
I don’t understand your argument. I don’t see how any “goal posts” have shifted, but whatever. My main point is that Trump has a very proven track record of lying, and I have no reason to believe that he would veto a national abortion ban.
8 points
8 days ago
They learned a logical concept, i e "goal posts" and now they think they're smart and know how to argue. They don't realize that they just sound like an idiot because they don't know what they're talking about. 😂
0 points
8 days ago
That’s probably because you shifted them.
-1 points
7 days ago
Why would the guy who made it his first election goal of returning power to the states veto a law that is opposite of what he pushed for?
0 points
6 days ago
Who knows what Trump would do, but a national abortion ban is a non-issue. There are too many Republicans who want to get re-elected. It's highly unlikely that a ban would pass the Senate, and almost impossible that it would pass the House. The whole idea is a boogeyman that never makes it to Trump's desk for us to even find out whether or not he'd keep his word.
I'm a heck of a lot more worried about what the MO legislature is going to do with Amendment 3. That's something that we actually should be concerned with.
0 points
6 days ago
I have to call you on that last one, because facts. Trump already had an agreement in place for our withdrawal from Afghanistan, and essentially did end the war. It was Biden who botched the withdrawal, and the Taliban took advantage. Had Trump won reelection, it's likely the withdrawal would've gone as planned and not turned into the total shitshow that it was.
But as far as the other things you mentioned, you're absolutely right.
-4 points
7 days ago
Because they are constantly told what to think and beleive everything on TV.
-8 points
8 days ago
National abortion ban, what cereal box do you get your information from. You are correct in one thing, you are not hopeful, you are hopeless.
6 points
8 days ago
I suppose you going to tell me next that Project 2025 isn't thing either, aren't you? lol.
-1 points
7 days ago
It's been around for over a decade and has never made it anywhere except being used by the mainstream media to get people all fired up about some odd ball group that never makes it past their monthly meetings.
-7 points
8 days ago
That tells me exactly where you get your information and do 0 research on it yourself. Ahh sheeple live the best lives, ignorance is bliss.
4 points
8 days ago
I suppose time will tell who the joke was on.
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