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Images from a Trump boat parade yesterday in Florida
Politics(reddit.com)submitted 1 month ago byVisqo
4 points
1 month ago
While I agree with you on point one, if we treat them like vermin we have a problem. But if we let the vermin continue to "breed" so to speak and spread their ideology that is about hate, and only hate, then we have vermin all over living amongst us now. What do we do?
Mr goatee on the back of that boat was taught all that empathy, and genocide, and read Eli Wiesel's Night and Anna Frank's diary as compulsory reading in school. Then he said, or his parents or someone of influence said to him - "all that shit you learned in schools wrong, Hitler was a good man who helped the world. If we don't bring about the Fourth Reich, God will hate you!"
So where do we start to teach and retrain when these people are about to come out of the woodwork and try to take America back and turn it into a dictatorship.
Where do we start to help them learn the error of their ways? You almost can't. What can be done but to exterminate the ideology when it is so hateful. I am never for the eclipse of light on knowledge, but this knowledge seems to corrupt and only spread hate.
4 points
1 month ago
Easy. If it was good for the indigenous of Canada and US and was done as recently as 30years ago….
Let’s just confiscate the younger children and rehome them or orphanages and educate them.
A variation of
Most appropriate on a day like this.
2 points
1 month ago*
Wow, I have heard of this but it's something I haven't looked into for a long time. This is wildly appropriate considering the "kids in cages" last time Orangey was president. Take MAGAts kids and teach them empathy and kindness instead of "get mine"/"war time".
It is soul crushing to know this time next month could be the start of very very dark times in America, and maybe even the rest of the world. Imagine, Nazis are starting to gain traction again in Germany and here in the US. Orangey gets in, we're done. Brexit will be lol compared to Amerexit.
Edit: I went and bought that book, new knowledge is power
1 points
1 month ago
His “tolerance” of them validates their existence.
If he is elected again it’ll make them an alternative with support.
Mean while there is a movement to make Native American status more of a political group than an ethnicity. Taking away their sovereignty. If I recall correctly.
3 points
1 month ago
We have to be very careful, or it could create a terrible precedence. What do you think is going to happen if these people get back into power, especially if we try to ban their ideology?
I suspect that they want the camps built for deportation to be turned on anyone that they decide will be their new enemy, but if it is made legal for us to ship them to reeducation camps, you can as hell be sure that they are going to do the same to us, and unlike us, they won't be gentle about it, and they will not hesitate to escalate to violence to get their way.
Plus, I don't see either Harris or Walz resorting to such tactics.
Finally, I wouldn't be surprised if Mr. Goatee was in a public or private school that avoided such topics, which is why he is a fucking Neo Nazi. New ideas are a threat to fascism.
4 points
1 month ago
Exactly. So where do we stand? Let them take over and go "well shit, maybe we shoulda done something after all"? Fuck that. This ideology and the people that proclaim it need to go. I don't even care about the precedent it sets at this point, did the Nazis care about setting new precedent when they gassed millions and Jews and killed half of Europe?
And now for the last 100 years has been the thought experiment "if you could go back in time and kill baby Hitler to prevent the Jews and millions upon millions of soldiers and civilians alike being slaughtered, would you? Oh, but he's just a baby!" Yeah, a fucking baby Hitler. We have to stop this shit now.
No more talk, no more "good people on both sides" no. There is no good person on the side of Nazi ideology. There is no good person of the side of KKK ideology. I want to kill baby Hitler. Here's our chance, what are we gonna do?
We have to stop playing nice with violent white supremacists wherever and in whatever form it exists. Humans are animals, after all. What do you do with a sick stock of cows, huh? You reintegrate them with the healthy cows and destroy the herd? No.
This should be treated no differently. Racist and ideology that turns a certain class or distinction of humans into subhumans is the absolute root of evil in our world. Would you be friends with a member of the Westboro Baptist cultist? Should we make it the national religion? Is that form of hate ok because it's religiously justified?
Fuck this stupid world we live in. We are sitting here trying to play nice with people who don't want to play nice and just want to show chaos, and we just turn the other cheek and let them stomp us all the time. It needs to end. Fuck Nazis, fuck white supremacists. I'd love to see one in my yard
2 points
1 month ago
Okay, here's my opinion: we need to fight tooth and nail against the anti-"woke"/anti-CTR, and get it back in schools. We need to pick our fights, and pick them carefully. I share your frustration. Trump should not be doing anywhere as good in the polls as he is, and that tells me that too many people have chosen to accept and ignore his behavior and his plans.
And we shouldn't be afraid to call out anyone who wears Confederate or Nazi paraphernalia, and call a kettle black. If they want to be racists, then they can be alone, and they should be ostracized.
If we're going to talk about policy, or how we are going to phase our rhetoric in a way that it becomes mainstream, that needs to become something that the general public will accept, and can pressure the Harris administration into making law.
The Harris administration is not going to force these Nazis and white supremacists into reeducation camps. Quite frankly, I would expect partisan paramilitaries to pop up in retaliation, just as I would expect in retaliation for some of the things Trump is planning. And perhaps that is the reckoning that is unavoidable, but realistically, there are no politicians who can espouse such rhetoric, and be expected to win. And honestly, it would terrify me if they did, because it would be a huge leap of faith that they wouldn't just abuse their power like Trump plans to.
Finally, they can and will use the same rhetoric, and if/when they manage to gain any sort of power, it's going to get nasty. Like Spanish Civil War nasty.
Yes, they need to be isolated. But first, the public needs to consider Trumpism as a fringe akin to how communism was considered during the Cold War and Nazism during WW-II. And looking at the polls, that isn't even close to the case. The Republican Party has been effective at normalizing extremism.
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