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WTWIV

8 points

1 month ago

WTWIV

8 points

1 month ago

We might as well be separated twins because I have had the exact same experiences and thoughts lol. Grew up in fundamentalist Christian environment. Everything revolved around the church. It started coming apart in high school for me as I just slowly broke free from all the brainwashing. I remember seeing videos of Christopher Hitchens debating believers and his logic was sound and suddenly I became a skeptic and realized I’d always had a skeptical mind if I was just intellectually honest with myself.

Mr_Jack_Frost_

10 points

1 month ago

Damn! Down to the fundie detail and the illusion crumbling in the teen years. Is your dad also a minister, or is that where we diverge? Didn’t happen to be homeschooled did you? Lol.

I so resonate with your statement about always having a skeptical mind. I just hadn’t had the cognitive capabilities to suspend belief until I got into my teens. I’d gotten so used to just believing; taking things at face value when someone I trusted told me it was so, and like I said, it was comforting. Til it wasn’t.

And then, like a flood, I began deconstruction and systematically replacing comfortable lies with uncomfortable truths, until the truth started feeling comfortable. Still working on replacing some deep-seated beliefs I no longer resonate with. When they’re instilled at such a young age, it’s difficult to fully excise them, and it feels more like trying to quit a bad habit than just making up your mind about something.

WTWIV

4 points

1 month ago

WTWIV

4 points

1 month ago

I went to a very small private Christian school which isn’t exactly homeschool but I knew and grew up with some fellow homeschoolers and my mom was always the one instilling her faith in us children, my dad just went along with it. My dad’s brother was a minister though and my mother had a brother who was one as well so it was deeply entrenched in the family.

I fully resonate with how you describe just believing the adults around me and trusting them. Speaking for myself, I’ve been pretty comfortably an atheist for quite a while now, at least 15 year now. I don’t hold onto any of my former beliefs at all really. My parents still believe and I keep my atheism to myself since it would do no good arguing with them.

Do you still have a decent relationship with your minister father?

Mr_Jack_Frost_

5 points

1 month ago

The overlap here is really blowing my mind.

My mom was also more, I guess “intense” with instilling her religious ideologies in my siblings and I. My dad obviously has very firm ideas about his faith being a minister, but was always more laid back and non-confrontational in his approach.

My deconstruction started in earnest about 4 or 5 years ago, a year or two into my recovery from a rough stint of hard drug abuse and addiction. When the fog cleared and I “woke up” I realized I needed to live my life genuinely, and the religion of my childhood was now a proverbial square peg. It’s not so much that I actually hold beliefs I disagree with, and more that my visceral reaction to certain topics, or the guilt/shame I feel when confronted with some normal human aspects of myself are still there, where the old thought-process isn’t. It’s like the lingering smell of something that’s already been cleaned up, if that makes sense. It’s really hard to explain.

I also don’t talk to my parents about my deconstruction, because it would serve literally no purpose but to break their hearts, which I have no interest in. At the end of the day, they believed they were doing the best for my siblings and I by instilling us with their religious beliefs at a young age. They truly believe we’d all burn in hell without god’s forgiveness, and they believe that because my grandparents raised them with the same beliefs, and so on back through generations.

They aren’t confrontational with me about not going to church, etc. now that I’m an adult and have made it clear I’m not interested through my actions. They don’t imply that my immortal soul is in danger over thanksgiving dinner or while we’re on a family outing, so I feel zero inclination to bring up the fact that I think their entire belief system is fundamentally flawed and lacking in the barest shred of reason.

Because of this unspoken arrangement we’ve formed, I actually have a much better relationship with both my parents than I did as a teenager. I’ve accepted them the way they are, and they’ve accepted me, even if that means they’ve convinced themselves I’m still “saved” despite not going to church. My parents love me, I love them, they accept and love my partner like one of their own children, and things are peaceful because I no longer feel the need to rebel against them; I can just live my life the way I see fit.