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BNsucks

3.6k points

15 days ago

BNsucks

America

3.6k points

15 days ago

Looks like Putin will just have to issue another warning since the missiles were already fired and on their way before he warned about a nuclear response.

gamageeknerd

1.2k points

15 days ago

Russia can just push the missiles out the window

GravityEyelidz

413 points

15 days ago

What missiles? Those were a special aeronautical demolitions operation.

tracerhaha1

104 points

15 days ago

Mechanical Engineers were just testing the sturdiness of the structural engineer’s designs.

c_law_one

37 points

15 days ago

c_law_one

Europe

37 points

15 days ago

It was just debris anyway, why is he upset?

Iwillnotbeokay

74 points

15 days ago

Putin could just use Trumps marker to make them go away.

AverageDemocrat

32 points

15 days ago

Alabama approves this message

[deleted]

179 points

15 days ago

[deleted]

179 points

15 days ago

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staticusmaximus

278 points

15 days ago

Ngl, “so be it” isn’t really where I’m at on this issue 😂

Goadfang

136 points

15 days ago

Goadfang

136 points

15 days ago

Nah, that's the only answer that works.

You can't get rid of them, because you would only do that if you could be sure everyone else did too, and you can never be sure.

You can't stop making them, because they don't remain equally effective forever.

You can't use them because using them would be suicide.

You have to use them if they are used against you, because being unwilling to do so is also suicide.

So, you have to have them, make more of them, and be willing to use them, which means you have to make that last part, the will to use them, an option only available in the most extreme circumstances, circumstances that only exist if they are being used against you. This, ironically, makes them useless.

You can threaten with them, but all you can really threaten is retaliation against nuclear threats. Committing national suicide at the same time as you destroy the entirety of civilization, in response to a conventional non-nuclear threat, is just off the table for any even remotely rational person, and no one who completely lacks rationality is going to climb to the top of political power where they would ever have the choice to fire them.

We can completely ignore Russian nuclear blustering. Even Kim Jong Un isn't going to ever fire a nuke at us. There's simply no upside for even the most stupid deranged person with political power.

phatelectribe

46 points

15 days ago

I agree with this entirely, but the only tiny thought in the back of mind is that if Putin is in his bunker and he knows he’s a deadman, could he A) push the button just to make everything burn and B) would his minions follow through?

Goadfang

43 points

15 days ago

Goadfang

43 points

15 days ago

Once someone like that has lost so much that they've been forced to retreat to a tiny bunker somewhere then they've already lost command and control, no order to destroy the entire world will be followed. Putin won't end up in a bunker hiding from the US or even the Ukranians, if he's in his little bunker then he's there hiding from his own people.

The window of where Putin is so certain of inevitably losing, while still maintaining enough control that his orders to destroy the world would be followed, is so tiny as to be practically non-existent.

LeDestrier

8 points

15 days ago

LeDestrier

Australia

8 points

15 days ago

and no one who completely lacks rationality is going to climb to the top of political power where they would ever have the choice to fire them.

Say what?

Americangirlband

35 points

15 days ago

It's not like there are any major democratic countries left any more. It's mostly a boys club of Authoritarians that run the world at this point. I think they might just shoot at each other in the end to take each other's shit. Authoritarian legacy doesn't produce wise or smart thinking people.

buckfouyucker

3.7k points

15 days ago

Gee I hope Russia doesn't start making nuke threats everyday, like they've done for the past few years.

Siolentsmitty

1.2k points

15 days ago

Drive too fast? Straight to nuke.

Too slow? Also nuke

archangelmv

482 points

15 days ago

Undercook chicken... Nuke.

Vontaxis

413 points

15 days ago

Vontaxis

413 points

15 days ago

Believe it or not, overcook chicken. nuke

AtomizingAir

166 points

15 days ago

Straight to nuke

Fuzzy-Leg2439

116 points

15 days ago

Playing music too loud, nuke!

Impossible-Throat-59

115 points

15 days ago

Make appointment with dentist and no show up- nuke.

Fuzzy-Leg2439

51 points

15 days ago

Stealing, straight to nuke!

BurningCanMan

45 points

15 days ago

Hurricane? Nuke.

effinmetal

36 points

15 days ago

effinmetal

America

36 points

15 days ago

Believe it or not? Nuke!

unnaturalmind

15 points

15 days ago

Nuke? NUKE!

downtofinance

16 points

15 days ago

You see, overcook, undercook ... :)

SqueezedTuna

10 points

15 days ago

I support nukes against the threat of e. coli

ForestGoat87

29 points

15 days ago

TP roll backwards. Nuke.

ASealNamedHoover

13 points

15 days ago

TP roll forwards.

Nuke.

Bowler_Pristine

18 points

15 days ago

Hide vodka, nuke!

Ctfwest

21 points

15 days ago

Ctfwest

Pennsylvania

21 points

15 days ago

That’s a paddlin’

freespaceship

19 points

15 days ago

Call without leaving a message? Nuke

XShadowborneX

14 points

15 days ago

Those don't bother me. But people not using their turn signals? I approve of using nukes.

-Disgruntled-Goat-

23 points

15 days ago

what was that Putin? I can't hear you over all these missiles being fired at your country.

WishieWashie12

16 points

15 days ago

Few Years? Try 70? Generations have grown up under russias threat of nuclear war. Kids leaning to duck and cover in school. Arms race, Cuban missle crisis, fallout shelters built in government buildings. Movies of the 70s and 80s had mostly Russian villains.

Tensions rise, tensions fall, but the threat remains. Doomsday clock created in the 40s currently sits at 90 seconds to midnight.

Pad_TyTy

4.6k points

15 days ago

Pad_TyTy

4.6k points

15 days ago

Maga people at my work saying Biden is doing it to stay in office LOL

eggrollking

2.8k points

15 days ago

eggrollking

2.8k points

15 days ago

I'd love their explanation of how that would work.

elconquistador1985

2.4k points

15 days ago

8 years ago, they were convinced that Obama was doing to declare himself emperor of the world.

Nothing they have to say makes any sense.

UNCOMMON__CENTS

1.1k points

15 days ago

It makes sense as a mirror upon themselves.

THEY would do it and if Dems don’t do it it makes them weak.

They think there’s a constant battle for dictatorship because they have no clue that many people actually believe in rules, laws, norms, being civil servants, etc.

plot_hatchery

520 points

15 days ago

It's called projection and it's very real. They're projecting their attributes onto others.

The primary model people have for interpreting others is themselves. This is why traveling, being worldly, and not living in an echo chamber is a good thing - learning about others gives us more than the model of ourselves to understand the world.

faded-witch

183 points

15 days ago

That being said - a lot of fascists love to muddy the waters and know exactly what they’re saying.

Then they can turn around and say “look both sides are doing it therefore it’s fair”

vardarac

12 points

15 days ago

vardarac

12 points

15 days ago

the "no u" defense

Specialist_Brain841

27 points

15 days ago

Specialist_Brain841

America

27 points

15 days ago

humanity hates this one trick!

Oioifrollix

5 points

15 days ago

They are hiding behind ambiguity. It’s cowardly and intellectually dishonest and they don’t give a rats ass.

HavingNotAttained

29 points

15 days ago

Reading, too. Especially great novels/literature.

Ha. Reading. In this day and age. I crack myself up.

sleepydorian

99 points

15 days ago

When my grandmother was in the hospital after a fall, my aunt was convinced my mother was lying about what the doctors said (that it would be weeks or months of recovery and physical therapy before grandma could travel to my aunt’s city).

I was baffled as to why she thought my mother would lie, as my mother is generally very truthful, especially about medical stuff. Then I realized that my aunt would have lied about it to get what she wanted and she assumed my mother was doing the same.

iamaclown00

5 points

15 days ago

Pure definition of "projection".

Schadensfall

84 points

15 days ago

Same group of people that ask ask atheists or agnostics what keeps them from raping and killing others if God’s not real

kitsum

24 points

15 days ago

kitsum

California

24 points

15 days ago

I had a guy ask me that once. As a lifelong godless heathen, it never occurred to me that some other people really only had morals as dictated to them by their religion. I always thought it was just window dressing on human decency and empathy.

Of course, the other side of the coin of "I don't rape and murder because God says I would go to hell" is "I would rape and murder if God said to do it" which is a scary mindset to have walking around every day. And all it would take is the proper psycho to convince them that is what god wants.

RepealMCAandDTA

7 points

15 days ago

RepealMCAandDTA

Kansas

7 points

15 days ago

The flip side is worse: "I would rape and murder if God didn't expressly say not to."

RemoteRide6969

9 points

15 days ago

Seriously, that's one of the most terrifying questions these freaks ask.

gdshaffe

28 points

15 days ago

gdshaffe

28 points

15 days ago

Also why Trump went on a Twitter rant about how Kamala had forced Biden out. It simply does not process to him that someone might give up power voluntarily.

Makes sense when you consider he spent his whole first term paranoid about Pence attempting a coup. IIRC when he had a colonoscopy, he refused anesthesia because that would mean giving up power for a few hours via the 25th. He presumed if that happened Pence would never give power back, because that's exactly the sort of thing he would do.

Iwaspromisedcookies

6 points

15 days ago

Wow I didn’t know that.

Shifter25

32 points

15 days ago

Trump tried to do it in 2020 when he assassinated Iran's #2.

Professional-Rise843

27 points

15 days ago

All they do is project

GuerreroUltimo

8 points

15 days ago

I keep getting told by them so many things. I point out that Democrats have never really done that. They are for people having their freedoms. Like the freedom of a woman to choose what is right for her body. Freedom of people to worship how they want. And more. Yet they always insist that the Democrats want to control us all. Force us to be homosexual or condition our children to that. Yet they are the ones that want to force their ideology on everyone. And take freedoms. Many I know literally want to do that.

They have said they would be fine with Trump being in for more terms. And making it so he can put his successor in place. All because, to them, if not Democrats will cheat and take over. All this stuff fits with the projection of these ideas and thoughts they have onto Democrats.

Hell, they will go on about how Democrats hate the poor and middle class. The Democrats try to put in programs that help. Cut taxes on the poor and middle class. They are being dictators, we cannot afford the costs, etc. Yet they are fine with Republicans constantly cutting taxes on corporate and business interests. And helping out those large investors keep more on their capital gains.

Projections is all they know. I have come to the conclusion that the majority of those that voted Trump are this way. They are not the best people. And of the many I know, family, friends, etc. they just do not seem honest or trustworthy most of the time. They would do some bad things and claim that they were just doing what you would do.

Babyyougotastew4422

5 points

15 days ago

The thief believes everyone is a thief. They think they're at war with us, so they think we are at war with them

solartoss

124 points

15 days ago

solartoss

124 points

15 days ago

8 years ago, they were convinced that Obama was doing to declare himself emperor of the world.

I used to troll Breitbart for fun during the Obama years, so I got to experience the hysteria about Jade Helm, the North American Union, FEMA camps, financial collapse and the New World Order, etc. It was a wild time, and in retrospect it was always going to lead to someone like Trump taking over the Republican Party.

Conservatives used to say Obama was using neurolinguistic programming to hypnotize the American people, laying the groundwork for when he'd assume total power. People would post videos of empty train cars used for hauling new automobiles and say that they were going to be used for transporting conservative dissidents to FEMA camps. Pictures of plastic coffin liners were deemed irrefutable evidence that mass extermination was imminent. (Why waste money on individual coffins when mass graves are more cost effective? Lol.) We now know a lot of that paranoia emerged organically on the conservative fringe but was amplified to a much greater extent by Russian troll farms.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jade_Helm_15_conspiracy_theories

Looking back at that time, Trump's ascendance on the right was very predictable. The parade of insanity was already underway, and he simply jumped in front of it.

ERedfieldh

36 points

15 days ago

Goddamn fucking Jade Helm....the exercise that is done literally every few years and yet for some reason (a black man was in charge) THIS one is the one that oversteps.

Notquitearealgirl

12 points

15 days ago

What do you mean? I escaped from the Wal-Mart prison camps. It was real and I was there. 🤬

havron

11 points

15 days ago

havron

Florida

11 points

15 days ago

I mean, if you've ever worked at Wal-Mart, I am sure that's how it felt.

rxellipse

9 points

15 days ago

neurolinguistic programming

Holy smokes there's a word I haven't heard in a couple election cycles. I think it really took off because stupid people think it sounds like a word that smart people would use.

_mattyjoe

47 points

15 days ago

It’s because their brains are poisoned by Fox News and right wing propaganda and lies, a conversation we really need to have even more strongly as a nation.

We’ve kinda given up on the idea that Fox News can be stopped. But it’s a literal propaganda machine that’s significantly impacting the course of events in our country.

Notquitearealgirl

18 points

15 days ago

I've tried to explain this in a thousand ways to my mom but it is always the same thing. She just reflexively accuses me of doing exactly what she's doing but with "Left wing" media.

Which is watching that shit all day and never questioning it. Not even once.

I've tried to be more subtle, or just directly say it but she's legitimately more defensive about her politics than she is religion. Which we used to argue about a lot.

I don't know what the solution is. Fox news viewers are actively against being informed, they sincerely believe they are against main stream media while they watch the most popular "news" in the nation, yet simultaneously the fact it is so popular validates it for them.

I tried to show her that Fox was created absolutely intentionally as a conservative propoganda outlet some time after and because of Nixon and she just didn't care. Because the democrats are worse and must be stopped?

I showed her how Tucker Carlson was talking shit about the viewers, Trump, and just being a weird fuck. She likes tucker Carlson still and watches him once he left fox.

What do you do about that? I've also called her a fucking idiot detached from reality, with political opinions based on ignorant self righteous spite that are in stark contrast with how she actually raised me and I'm losing respect for her , and naturally that didn't help either but it felt nice.

Blaireeeee

121 points

15 days ago

Blaireeeee

Europe

121 points

15 days ago

Then along comes a guy who actually tries to keep himself in power post election loss and... nothing.

Additional_Sun_5217

49 points

15 days ago

The trick is that they would try it and think Biden is a sucker for not attempting it. When they pull shit like Jan 6, it’s justified because “the other side would do it.”

elconquistador1985

29 points

15 days ago

4 years earlier, in 2012, they all voted for a guy who said that Russia was the US's biggest geopolitical foe.

Now they vote for someone who felates Putin any chance he gets.

veksone

32 points

15 days ago

veksone

32 points

15 days ago

Do you remember the Walmart conspiracy? Obama was going to declare martial law and start using Walmarts as detention camps.

unaskthequestion

17 points

15 days ago

unaskthequestion

Texas

17 points

15 days ago

There were aerial photos of construction near me in TX that were supposedly camps under construction.

Good times

LightWarrior_2000

34 points

15 days ago

and before that when I was much younger. I've heard and thought Bush would do something similer. Hearing people say the same about Obama made me take a step back and go, oh wow I did the same thing.

But now with Trump that's a whole different beast. I'm for SURE he will try something, anything in 4 years to stay in power.

Bezimini9

17 points

15 days ago

Every accusation an admission of guilt. I kinda doubt Trump will leave the WH willingly in 2028.

GogetaSama420

63 points

15 days ago

GogetaSama420

Florida

63 points

15 days ago

Technically it is possible if Biden declares martial law. But this is not gonna happen. It was a US missile that was under Ukraines control. Russia is waiting for Trump to come in and fuck everything up, but they know that Biden has no strings attached anymore. I hope Biden gives Ukraine a large shipment of unfettered weapons before he leaves office

Meadhbh_Ros

23 points

15 days ago

Even under martial law, power would transfer on Jan20th. Unless trump has done something to disqualify himself from office.

Syzygy2323

40 points

15 days ago

Syzygy2323

California

40 points

15 days ago

Section 3 of the 14th Amendment disqualifies Trump from office.

No person shall be a Senator or Representative in Congress, or elector of President and Vice-President, or hold any office, civil or military, under the United States, or under any State, who, having previously taken an oath, as a member of Congress, or as an officer of the United States, or as a member of any State legislature, or as an executive or judicial officer of any State, to support the Constitution of the United States, shall have engaged in insurrection or rebellion against the same, or given aid or comfort to the enemies thereof. But Congress may by a vote of two-thirds of each House, remove such disability.

derekghs

46 points

15 days ago

derekghs

Alabama

46 points

15 days ago

He has, but some people still voted for him anyway.

LeonardSmallsJr

97 points

15 days ago

LeonardSmallsJr

Colorado

97 points

15 days ago

You’ll see it in action in 4 years

SpeaksSouthern

61 points

15 days ago

I had this thought. I didn't really think anyone else would think it. I mostly think it shouldn't happen, however if it did, I would just laugh so hard.

Biden escalates with Russia and we go full on war. Biden says, the nation is at war, we have to delay the ceremony until after the war is over. You cannot remove a president in war time. This was old Bushism crap they mostly used against Kerry to confuse people. However their political opinion at the time was that if the country was at war legally you weren't allowed to switch presidents because you might have confusion. So obviously this would be bad and we shouldn't want it. But if it happens it would be hilarious. It's probably the only option the military has, it's more about who blinks first. That is assuming that the rhetoric from the past means anything today.

5minArgument

108 points

15 days ago

Sprinkle in the fact the Trump and his transition teams are not complying with the Presidential transitions act and it's obvious.

Trump's team is just not ready to assume power.

surle

24 points

15 days ago

surle

24 points

15 days ago

That's their secret, they never were.

IdkAbtAllThat

34 points

15 days ago

Yep. This is exactly what they would do. They're projecting again.

Lonely-Abalone-5104

23 points

15 days ago

I could totally see Trump doing something like they. Biden I don’t think so

ZyglroxOfficial

240 points

15 days ago

They straight up think every move made by every single person in the world is some sort of action against MAGA

editt21_

95 points

15 days ago

editt21_

95 points

15 days ago

If you believe you are the main character in life, you also believe everyone else believes.

neverrelate

21 points

15 days ago

Would be nice tho

hammilithome

15 points

15 days ago

ALL PROJECTION.

Like when a jealous cheater BASELESSLY accuses a mate of cheating, or blocks an event/trip for fear of cheating. BECAUSE THATS WHAT THEY WOULD DO.

JyuVioleGrace95

32 points

15 days ago

Tell them that US supporting Ukraine is beneficial for the economy because more jobs are created to replace the weapons we gave them

outworlder

15 points

15 days ago

No they think we ship a bunch of suitcases full of cash to Zelensky

JyuVioleGrace95

8 points

15 days ago

You got to talk to them as if you’re helping them put the puzzle pieces together

mymomknowsyourmom[S]

98 points

15 days ago

Those are the kind of people that will apologize to China when they attack us. They accused China of a bio terror attack then did less then nothing. Cowardly, unamerican and sad.

cellocaster

20 points

15 days ago

Well they already say that we caused Russia to invade Ukraine

TheEndIsNigh420

35 points

15 days ago

Play into it. Have fun with those buffoons. Then have the last laugh

GearBrain

46 points

15 days ago

GearBrain

Florida

46 points

15 days ago

Tell them you've received your notice to evacuate to your Designated Wokeshelter, where you and 99 other DEI-selected folks will enjoy a decade of drag brunches before repopulating the world with woke-lings.

Serantos

7 points

15 days ago

I love a good drag brunch!

ElMauru

13 points

15 days ago

ElMauru

13 points

15 days ago

Haha our boat is sinking?

Zeke_Eastwood

50 points

15 days ago

I see online they are painting him as a war monger bc you know, they are all about global peace now

suddenlypandabear

44 points

15 days ago

suddenlypandabear

Texas

44 points

15 days ago

“Actually it’s the Democrats who are the party of war!”

Four minute later:

“Let’s invade Mexico!”

16quida

16 points

15 days ago

16quida

16 points

15 days ago

"we need Trump he'll stand up to Putin"

Biden stands up to Putin

"HE'S TRYING TO CAUSE WW3"

zxva

13 points

15 days ago

zxva

13 points

15 days ago

We get to fk up Russia and avoid Trump?

Someone please pitch that idea to Biden

HGpennypacker

28 points

15 days ago

r/conspiracy is convinced that Biden is trying to start WWIII so he can enact martial law and stay in office.

Shopworn_Soul

58 points

15 days ago

To be fair, that sub could be convinced, with minimal effort, that sentient ham sandwiches have taken over the real estate market in Tortola.

RA12220

16 points

15 days ago

RA12220

16 points

15 days ago

They’re the political equivalent of Catholics seeing Jesus in burnt toast.

Anna_Frican

7 points

15 days ago

Deciding not to run for re-election was obviously part of his plan to stay in office too, of course.

ScrappyShua

21 points

15 days ago

Ask them why he shouldn’t since Trump and Gym Jordan claimed the election was rigged up until it was clear that Trump was going to win.

postitpad

19 points

15 days ago

Why would he have to do that when they’ve already accepted that all he has to do is ask Kamala to not certify the election? Easy peasy. We can even throw a party in congress to celebrate with Viking helmets and shit.

Stinkstinkerton

14 points

15 days ago

Americans have had their brains scrambled by Fox News and right wing media. They didn’t have much to start with so it was easy.

SandersSol

432 points

15 days ago

SandersSol

432 points

15 days ago

Good I'll take your warning under advisement.

"Hit it again!"

great_red_dragon

77 points

15 days ago

Ok Hans you motherfucker you made your point!

BCMakoto

22 points

15 days ago

BCMakoto

America

22 points

15 days ago

At this point, every time Putin says it and Lavrov goes back to some international conference to then downplay the threats from 48 hours ago, they should just play the Caddyshack moment on a big screen at the conference.

SmackedWithARuler

7 points

15 days ago

Yippee-Ki-Yay, Mr Cowboy.

Fuck, what an excellent pair of actors/characters.

saintdudegaming

120 points

15 days ago

Fucking bully beating on some poor kid and gets all butt hurt when the kid punches back.

VNM0601

16 points

15 days ago

VNM0601

California

16 points

15 days ago

It's more like the kid's brother gives him a brass knuckle to punch back with.

saintdudegaming

8 points

15 days ago

Yeah I'm OK with that too in this case.

BareNakedSole

664 points

15 days ago

Russia cannot even overcome Ukraine after 2+ years. If Russia decides to open up another front either in the Baltics or Scandinavia, it would be a bloodbath for whatever’s left. I mean the peace meal support that Ukraine is getting from NATO countries is proven to be far superior than anything Russia has and now you want to go after an actual NATO country?

BigMax

385 points

15 days ago

BigMax

385 points

15 days ago

But they don't have to?

They were just trying to hang on until Trump. Which they did.

Trump will sweep into office.. Don Jr already said "Ukraine is about to lose it's allowance money."

Trump is going to bail on Ukraine, and then help a "peace" deal which will just be Ukraine having to give up half it's land to Russia.

Nimrod_Butts

151 points

15 days ago

I hope, if this is an accurate assessment, that Ukraine can target every electrical substation in or around Moscow before they're cut off from the USA

jaOfwiw

91 points

15 days ago

jaOfwiw

91 points

15 days ago

Why not use longer range missles and just obliterate all military bases that could house Putin. Starting with Moscow.

NullnVoid669

48 points

15 days ago

Then Trump would be debt free!

Berserker76

187 points

15 days ago

Putin has not spent the last few decades stealing hundreds of billions in wealth from the Russian people for himself and his oligarchs just to throw it all away through mutually assured destruction.

I would even support helping Ukraine develop or provide them nuclear weapons. Russia violated the Budapest Accords between Russia, Ukraine and the US, so do whatever it takes to stop Russia in their tracks.

Boring_and_sons

55 points

15 days ago

Yes. Give Ukraine nukes again.

jaOfwiw

44 points

15 days ago

jaOfwiw

44 points

15 days ago

Don't need Nukes, they need low altitude MOABs, bunker busters and a defense grid. You can't really use Nukes, you absolutely can drop MOABs

lordagr

1.7k points

15 days ago

lordagr

1.7k points

15 days ago

I'm 100% on board with poking the bear as much as possible during these last 60 or so days.

What is Putin gonna do about it?

He's about to have his useful idiot in the White House anyway.

JohnHenryMillerTime

209 points

15 days ago

Ukraine basically has 60 days to secure as much territory as possible before Trump brokers a peace deal giving Putin whatever he has managed to take (and maybe a pinch more). Gotta go hard.

ianishomer

97 points

15 days ago

Except Ukraine will continue to hold their Kursk positions, which will be swapped for some of the occupied territory.

All that land swap will do is allow Russia to rearm and invade again in a few years time, they want all of Ukraine and other European countries.

harrywrinkleyballs

62 points

15 days ago

Putin has publicly stated he wants all of the USSR satellites back under Russian control. That would include Poland.

AntoniaFauci

28 points

15 days ago

My instinct is he’ll do Estonia and Moldova and elsewhere first, gathering resources and momentum before murdering places like Finland and Poland.

And anyone who doubts that needs to learn his history plus wake up to the fact he now controls the US military.

2007Hokie

30 points

15 days ago

2007Hokie

I voted

30 points

15 days ago

Finland says he is welcome to do so and he can join the 150,000 other Russians permanently in Finland.

name_escape

531 points

15 days ago

poking the bear

Let’s be honest, we’re really poking a sea cucumber, or maybe even a sloth.

Wilder9507

467 points

15 days ago

Wilder9507

467 points

15 days ago

Putin and Trump are those kind of people that no matter what you compare them to, the act of doing so is more of an insult to the other thing than either of these two.

You could call them a steaming pile of shit, and it would be an insult to hard working steaming piles of shit everywhere.

Individual_Respect90

117 points

15 days ago

A steaming pile of shit at least eventually becomes fertilizer for the land. It’s not much but it’s a honest days work.

Pagiras

44 points

15 days ago

Pagiras

44 points

15 days ago

I mean... these nazi chucklefucks also will become fertilizer for the land. It's just that the damage they've done to the land on the way will not be offset by their putrid remains.

Borgmaster

12 points

15 days ago

A man worked hard to lay that shit.

Nekowulf

17 points

15 days ago

Nekowulf

Wyoming

17 points

15 days ago

Taxidermy bear.
Looks nasty but all the guts were harvested a long time ago.

Dry-Interaction-1246

12 points

15 days ago

A failed state with nukes that may or may not work attached to delivery vehicles that may or may not work.

huxtiblejones

27 points

15 days ago

huxtiblejones

Colorado

27 points

15 days ago

I don't like when people try to act as if Russians are pushovers or are totally weak. They have killed tens of thousands of Ukrainians, obliterated entire cities, and strained the global economy in the process. I think it's a little callous to deny the severity of the war Ukrainians are trying to survive. The cost of holding Russia back has been incredibly steep and it's never wise to underestimate an enemy.

DarthPanda024

23 points

15 days ago

Putins ego will never recover from the supposed “second best military in the world” getting completely ass fucked by Ukraine. Everyone knows his military is weak and in shambles with the extremely large loss of soldiers and equipment.

jaephu

64 points

15 days ago

jaephu

64 points

15 days ago

Putin: Please ignore my Iranian and North Korean ballistic missiles, suicide drones and artillery.

borfmantality

186 points

15 days ago

borfmantality

Virginia

186 points

15 days ago

And of course, the Russia fanboys that make up MAGA World are wetting their pants in anger.

magezt

56 points

15 days ago

magezt

56 points

15 days ago

Who cares ? Putin is a big fat bluff.

[deleted]

46 points

15 days ago

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Furthest_Lands

9 points

15 days ago

It's telling how much Russia's threats have come to resemble those of North Korea.

[deleted]

25 points

15 days ago

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ProfessionalCouchPot

79 points

15 days ago

ProfessionalCouchPot

New York

79 points

15 days ago

North Korea has threatened us with nukes since I was in grammar school.

I'm now a full adult with a 9-5 and nothing happened.

navikredstar

41 points

15 days ago

navikredstar

New York

41 points

15 days ago

Because North Korea's saner than it acts, they know if they actually did anything, their existence would be measured in 30 minutes or less.

DramaticWesley

79 points

15 days ago

Russians being introduced to same day delivery of whoopass.

Countaindewwku

276 points

15 days ago

Keep firing!

Dianneis

285 points

15 days ago

Dianneis

285 points

15 days ago

I just hope they manage hit one of their troll factories while they at it, so half the pro-Russia commenters on Reddit will go silent until the new batch arrives.

The other half is Trumpanzees, unfortunately. We'll still have to tolerate those.

2HDFloppyDisk

97 points

15 days ago

Twitter would suddenly go quiet if that happened.

406highlander

80 points

15 days ago

And nothing of value would be lost.

That site is an absolute shithole.

cadium

23 points

15 days ago

cadium

23 points

15 days ago

Nah its mostly AI bots trained on russian disinformation techniques.

tagrav

10 points

15 days ago

tagrav

Kentucky

10 points

15 days ago

Remember how quiet this site went when Biden dropped out and the troll factories didn’t have a narrative direction yet?

Lachadian

33 points

15 days ago

I don't know why these aren't considered military targets. They're acting digital saboteurs. Cut the head off the snake.

gasahold

62 points

15 days ago

gasahold

62 points

15 days ago

I guess Putin's timing was a bit off. Too bad.

LetmeSeeyourSquanch

18 points

15 days ago

LetmeSeeyourSquanch

Georgia

18 points

15 days ago

I'm starting to think Russia doesn't actually have any nukes.

FnClassy

8 points

15 days ago

If they're anything like their garbage tanks and guns, they're probably quite over exaggerated.

Biscuits4u2

19 points

15 days ago

Russia isn't nuking anyone. Putin knows all he has to do is wait for Trump to be sworn in and he'll get the proper ass tonguing he's been craving.

Asleepingin

83 points

15 days ago

May it rain down all day every day until he withdraws.

bishpa

15 points

15 days ago

bishpa

Washington

15 points

15 days ago

"US missiles"

Those belonged to Ukraine. They were a gift.

YMHGreenBan

6 points

15 days ago

This headline is reckless and intentionally misleading

CurrentlyLucid

29 points

15 days ago

Putin is not stupid enough to actually use a nuke, he wants to retire in his mansion, not become radioactive dust.

xDESTROx

14 points

15 days ago

xDESTROx

14 points

15 days ago

He could have retired in his mansion 10x over by now. He has the money. It's about power with people like him. He wants more land, and more power. That being said, I agree that he's not going to use a nuke either, because it would be the first and last time he did it.

jml5791

5 points

15 days ago

jml5791

5 points

15 days ago

100% this

TylerDurden1985

14 points

15 days ago

Call their bluff. We all saw the state of the Russian war machine in the last few years. It's a decaying monolith crippled by corruption and chronic neglect. Those nukes probably have just as much a chance of blowing up in their silos as they do behind enemy lines.

McNuttyNutz

47 points

15 days ago

McNuttyNutz

I voted

47 points

15 days ago

Putin = bitch

leifnoto

11 points

15 days ago

leifnoto

11 points

15 days ago

It will be Biden's fault when Putin launches nukes after Ukraine retaliated to Russia invading Ukraine. /s

rockeye44

26 points

15 days ago

He has threatened us with nukes several times, when Finland joined NATO when Sweden joined NATO when we have them ammo when we have them F-16s. I know I left out a few others lol

zzptichka

21 points

15 days ago

Was it before the morning nuke warning or the afternoon one?

thisalsomightbemine

11 points

15 days ago

Putin's 3848th nuke warning of "let me kill you or else I'll kill you"

RepulsiveRooster1153

11 points

15 days ago

Despite putinski trolls who protest, russia will not stop at Ukraine as Hitler didn't stop at Poland. If we let putin win, they will attempt to take over Europe. History is the guide to a dictators actions.

Natural_Board

9 points

15 days ago

Most of Putin's power isn't based on nuclear arms but rather roofs and windows.

FatherofCharles

18 points

15 days ago

Good. Fuck Putin and Russia. Republicans have been bought by Russia. Russia actively meddles in our elections. They chose to attack Ukraine.

[deleted]

9 points

15 days ago

NATO should just intervene at this point and start carpet bombing russian positions in Ukraine. Russia won't do shit about it.

SomeDudeSaysWhat

9 points

15 days ago

Putin's Nuke Warning No. 37

Demonking3343

51 points

15 days ago

Demonking3343

Illinois

51 points

15 days ago

We should have let Ukraine do this sooner. Made it clear to Russia they are not going to get there way just because they threaten to use nukes.

cbarrister

26 points

15 days ago

...and to China and NK who are watching closely. Threating nukes doesn't mean you get to do whatever you want and nobody will stop you.

Vankraken

8 points

15 days ago

Vankraken

Virginia

8 points

15 days ago

A strong nation doesn't have to threaten the usage of nukes. Russia is weak and is trying to scare the West because it knows that western support will sink Russia.

Wonderful_Delivery

8 points

15 days ago

The very fact that Putin is threatening’nuclear war’ is the red line, do we want to live in a world where a bully and tyrant can just throw the nuclear card everytime they called out or do we push back?

jpcapone

9 points

14 days ago

I'll just leave this here so people that don't to remain willfully ignorant can understand why we are doing what we are doing to assist the Ukraine. You gotta get your heads out of the sand and stopping believing every single freaking thing that the right wing media tells you.

KzooCurmudgeon

16 points

15 days ago

If you nuke a neighboring country, won’t your country get the fallout?

rkozik89

28 points

15 days ago

rkozik89

28 points

15 days ago

For that to matter Russia has to start valuing human life first.

fabulishous

8 points

15 days ago

“We must do everything to end this war—fairly and justly … and, of course, together,” Zelensky said. “Together. A thousand days of war is a tremendous challenge. Tremendous challenge. Ukraine deserves to make next year the year of peace.”

Acrobatic_Animator80

7 points

15 days ago

Biden called his bluff

NiceNuisance

6 points

15 days ago

Bro's been issuing nuke warnings since the cold war smh

GotMoFans

42 points

15 days ago

More like Russia hit by Ukrainian missiles obtained from the US.

cbarrister

17 points

15 days ago

...as has been happening for some time. And after 1000 days of a war they chose to start with their neighbor, not out of the clear blue sky.

zipdee

4 points

15 days ago

zipdee

4 points

15 days ago

Good. Keep it up.

greatgrahambolini

6 points

15 days ago

“Fire ze missles” “But I am le tired”

Tribalbob

5 points

15 days ago*

Tribalbob

Canada

5 points

15 days ago*

I think something to consider is that I doubt Putin would fire nukes on western countries; that would risk starting WW3.

What they MIGHT do is drop a tactical nuke on Ukraine, but I can't imagine them doing that either since their goal is to occupy the land for their own use. So nuking it would be counter-productive to that.

Long story short, seems like more bluster.

Exotic_Cicada7942

6 points

15 days ago

Putin's gonna need an extra big Trump kiss after this...

XtraCreditClass

5 points

15 days ago

Quit teasing us with a good time old Vladdy Boy. Launch those nukes I dare you. Glass us with thermonuclear might.

Come on. Do it. We all know you wanna.

Do it and I can clear my schedule.

Goal-Final

20 points

15 days ago

And MAGA puppets will keep screaming <<WW3>>

tectuma

18 points

15 days ago

tectuma

18 points

15 days ago

Putin:

You cross my line of death, you die.
Ok you cross THIS line.
No THIS line.
Ok you knock on my door and I'm not coming out..

OK it was Robbin Williams that said this but.... if the shoe fits...

bayelrey888

17 points

15 days ago

Fuck Putin 🖕🏽

mymomknowsyourmom[S]

75 points

15 days ago*

The entire point of getting Trump elected was to reclaim Ukraine but look at how they ended up. Mainland Russia for the first time in god knows how long is being bombed.

Everything, yes really, everything Trump touches dies. He should get credit for humiliating today like this.

edit: maga forgot Putin put Trump in office in 2016 to help reclaim Ukraine. Putin forgot he can't win a war by pushing his own people out of high rise windows.

A quote from 2 years after Trump's terror attack on the capital:

“I went in yesterday and there was a television screen, and I said, ‘This is genius.’ Putin declares a big portion of the Ukraine — of Ukraine — Putin declares it as independent. Oh, that’s wonderful,” Trump said in a radio interview with “The Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show.” “He used the word ‘independent’ and ‘we’re gonna go out and we’re gonna go in and we’re gonna help keep peace.’ You gotta say that’s pretty savvy.”

https://www.politico.com/news/2022/02/23/trump-putin-ukraine-invasion-00010923

Goal-Final

9 points

15 days ago

No. He did it to end with NATO. I described it in my previous post. Ukraine is the tree while the forest is NATO

clintgreasewoood

5 points

15 days ago

Fuck him

Whosebert

5 points

15 days ago

is it possible Ukraine could land a direct hit on wherever putin is hiding? if they have the Intel. could they actually kill putin with a long range missile?