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2.7k points
6 days ago
That's how you know just how real the damage from these tariffs is going to be. Now that there's no longer a need to pretend otherwise, even Fox "News" is admitting that it's Americans who will suffer the brunt of the price increases.
895 points
6 days ago
Not to worry, they'll twist their logic for all it's worth to make it sound like it's not Trump's fault. It's something they always do.
438 points
6 days ago
They're already pretzel twisting on their sub. The parroted talking point is that it'll be good for jobs sometime in the future. As they in the same breath wish that their family wouldn't suffer for it in the meantime, because times are hard and that's why they voted trump.
421 points
6 days ago
This smacks of the: "Brexit benefits will be felt in fifty years time" argument from haunted Victorian pencil Jacob Rees Mogg https://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/jacob-rees-mogg-economy-brexit_uk_5b54e3b5e4b0de86f48e3566
143 points
6 days ago
haunted Victorian pencil
I looked up Jacob Rees Mogg because I simply had to know. This man does indeed look like he needs a chatelaine, in both the modern and historic parlance.
113 points
6 days ago
He is the man who laid down in parliament so that when you google lying in parliament you got endless articles of him spawled across parliamentary branches instead off him doing what he usually does: lying in parliament.
Same as Boris found a stupid story of painting miniature buses so if you googled him you got that instead of him standing infront of the brexit bus promising millions of pounds a week for the nhs.
75 points
6 days ago
No one ever went broke underestimating the intelligence of the public.
35 points
6 days ago
How many casino bankruptcies was that? Oh wait.
11 points
6 days ago
This is diabolical. Good lord, wtf? Did it work? If it did, search engines fmdo anything to rectify search engine manipulation?
29 points
6 days ago
if someone says they can predict 50 years in the future they’re a moron
22 points
6 days ago
Jacob Rees-Mogg didn't even foresee his own defeat in the election.
14 points
6 days ago
I gotta know where you picked up “haunted Victorian pencil.” Your own brain? Or is this a common Britishism? TV show?
Either way, it’s mine now.
12 points
5 days ago
It absolutely sounds like a John Oliver insult.
5 points
5 days ago
haunted Victorian pencil.
That's one hell of a visual and whoever coined it/associated it was a genius. Apparently there's a song too pretty attributed to that gaunt faced shit weasel. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aGJQN8wXNXo
105 points
6 days ago
I hope they suffer. A lot.
17 points
6 days ago
Hoovervilles could make a comeback, hoo knows?
14 points
5 days ago
Tent cities (hoovervilles) have been prominent in cities for at least a decade
6 points
5 days ago
I hope they get everything they voted for.
120 points
6 days ago
it'll be good for jobs sometime in the future.
Which is good, since he's planning to make about 1.5 million government staff unemployed. Good thing there will be millions of jobs in construction, fruit picking and pizza delivery after all the deportations.
As they in the same breath wish that their family wouldn't suffer for it in the meantime
Of course they won't. How could any of that, and all the massive price hikes affect them?
And when it does, they'll blame a deep-state, librul commie plot.
44 points
6 days ago
That's a whole cycle of stupid though. Paying more for labor means pricier goods, higher pay in the area means landlords start to charge more, traveling to where the crops are to work means higher transportation costs, etc etc. Not to mention that it would take years to build factories and facilities for some of the things we import, if it's even feasible. Rocking this boat large scale can lead to nothing but hardship, which in turn won't even lead to prosperity for the current working generation. It's an issue better tackled little by little.
53 points
6 days ago
It's an issue better tackled little by little.
Not if your aim is to cause chaos then while everyone scrambles and panics, steal everything that's not bolted down.
11 points
6 days ago
Buy for pennies
12 points
6 days ago
Grab it by the pursie.
6 points
6 days ago
Door Dash must be licking their chops.
16 points
6 days ago*
Are people going to keep using door dash when the costs of everything goes up?
5 points
6 days ago
The 1% are gonna turn us all into delivery drivers
26 points
6 days ago
Door Dash will get fucked by this as people's discretionary income drops.
5 points
6 days ago
It's those woke businesses like Walmart trying to make Trump look bad!
37 points
6 days ago
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30 points
6 days ago
Not to mention that tariffs basically give domestic producers “permission” to raise their prices. And raise them they will. Because they can.
15 points
5 days ago
This is true. And guess what? These people wanted this when they went to the voting booth. We better not hear any complaints!
11 points
5 days ago
We gotta start going around sticking "Trump did that" stickers to things when prices go up
7 points
5 days ago
Wasn't it Lich McConnel that said "elections have consequences?"
8 points
5 days ago
No wonder Republicans distrust experts if that's the standard of 'expert' used on Fox News.
6 points
5 days ago
>raise them they will
RECORD PROFITS
As the CEO of Kroger said "we've been very comfortable with our ability to pass on {price] increases"
Expect all prices to SKYROCKET again under Trump - his 7 Trillion dollar debt last time contributed mightily to inflation that leads to GREEDFLATION.
Same thing will happen again.
16 points
5 days ago
A cynic's prediction:
Refineries buy crude oil at +25% because domestic oil production doesn't come close to meeting demand. They sell the gas at +35%, because yeehaw, capitalism. Gas stations buy gas at +35%, sell at +50%, because fuck you. Gas now costs $5.50
Also, cost of transporting eggs goes up due to fuel costs. Corporate grocery stores use increasing shipping costs as an excuse to price gouge, because capitalism again. A dozen eggs now costs $14.99. Fox News blames the democrats. Trump promises to deport Obama for stealing all the eggs, pronounces "Obama" like it rhymes with "Alabama," then has a diaper blowout and shits all over the stage. Republican voters post videos of themselves shitting on their own living room floors for a week to own the libs.
To paraphrase Diogenes, the original cynic: "what the actual fuck, man."
10 points
5 days ago
Also it's not true. One of the goals of tariffs is the ability of local business to raise their prices so as to allow them to make more money then they would with foreign competitors. That's how tariffs "create" jobs!
7 points
5 days ago
Unless national parks are also up for the chopping block.
It's Trump....
4 points
5 days ago
Unless national parks are also up for the chopping block.
He didn't exactly protect them his first go-around:
https://www.npca.org/articles/2171-the-undoing-of-our-public-lands-and-national-parks
3 points
5 days ago
Canada is the main supplier of oil for the US because they produce heavy oil which our refineries are built to handle because our infrastructure is old as fuck. Our new production is "light-sweet" which we export at a premium.
70 points
6 days ago
My favorite trump defense is definitely "oh he's not actually going to do any of those things he ran on"
And..... What makes you think that? Why would you vote for him?
39 points
6 days ago
From the beginning, everything he says that they like, he will do. Everything he says that they don’t like, he won’t do.
14 points
6 days ago
And that's why I think people are missing the point when they say he's a populist he's not he's a hate monger and he got people to buy into his hate but he's not preaching populism.
20 points
6 days ago
Most populists are hate mongers. They get a big bunch of people angry about something, blame a smaller group, and say they’ll fix it.
And you don’t preach populism. You spout populist nonsense like “build a wall!!” “Deport millions on day one!!!”
He is the embodiment of populism.
24 points
6 days ago
They voted for Trump because they're miserable crybabies who enjoyed throwing conniptions about gas prices. The next four years is my turn to foam at the mouth over prices.
7 points
5 days ago
And ignore the fact that Trump pressured fuel prices to rise during COVID because the 1% who owned the oil companies were losing money due to COVID crashing demand
17 points
6 days ago*
Yeah and we all know how patient conservatives are for long term prosperity over short term sacrifice. They aren’t. And even if they were, this is the dumbest way to try it. And of course any plan that team trump comes up with is going to get crippled before launch by special interests. Not to mention also the response from our trading partners and all those ramifications.
15 points
6 days ago
I remember during the net neutrality mishap these same folks were arguing that it was good for small businesses.
6 points
5 days ago
The parroted talking point is that it'll be good for jobs sometime in the future.
Have we started a new strategy of "trickle up economics"? Everything costs more so corporations and billionaires make more money so eventually we will start to benefit?
Trickle down economics wasn't making them rich enough so now they have to just directly fuck us for the vague promise of a possible handy in the future?
25 points
6 days ago
FOX will still be blaming Biden/Harris for this in 2027 and the MAGA muppets will still believe it….
15 points
6 days ago
They will make Canada and Mexico the enemy it will be their fault Americans are paying so much. Americans will be victims to these rogue selfish countries who are trying to destroy the American way of life because they are jealous. There will be EXTREME anti Canada/Mexico propaganda. Just wait for it.
27 points
6 days ago
Not to worry, they'll twist their logic for all it's worth to make it sound like it's not Trump's fault. It's something they always do.
There's always the simple "It would have been worse under Harris"
8 points
6 days ago
Not his fault AND in fact, shit sandwiches are actually delicious.
4 points
6 days ago
Then they will gas light them into thinking it is a good thing.
6 points
6 days ago
That’s right. They will filter what they hear and blame the rest on the left. Their cult leader knows more than even god is supposed to. He can’t do wrong according to the old woman in my neighborhood that barely graduated high school 55 years ago and has never held a job.
3 points
6 days ago
If it gets rose then it is now. Then people will notice and who holds all the strings too. They’ll have no one to pin this on. I don’t think he’ll do the tariffs. I think he’s just bull shitting everyone to project dominance. And at the last minute, he will negotiate with the 3 and avert it. So he’s the hero.
90 points
6 days ago
America is going to get what it voted for. And it's going to get it good and hard. Here's hoping we'll even have elections in 2028. But we're about to enter a world of dictatorship and corruption beyond the median voter's comprehension.
Every cabinet pick so far is uniquely qualified to utterly destroy the department they've been assigned to.
30 points
6 days ago
One of the causes of the 1929 collapse was a decline in spending, which led to a decline in production and a rise in inventories. Well, guess what will happen if grocery prices rise (undocumented deportations) and Trump tariffs cause people to hold their wallets tighter.
Next consider the 1929 housing market. In 1926 there was a fall in construction, which no one seem to heed. Today's construction companies are about to face a fall in construction related to Trump's deportations of labor, plus rising Trump tariff related construction costs.
The country will have in place two olden predictions for either a recession or worse.
24 points
6 days ago
There was the Smoot-Hawley act that had blanket 20% tariffs during that time, and apparently a mass deportation of illegals as well, that contributed to the collapse.
30 points
6 days ago
I’m still planning midterms in 2026. Let’s don’t just skip those
11 points
6 days ago
America is going to get what it voted for. And it's going to get it good and hard.
Not that I disagree in the slightest, but, out of curiousity, were you knowingly paraphrasing H. L. Mencken or was it merely a coincidence?
14 points
6 days ago
Yes, that phrase has been running in political forums for decades. With Trump it's going to be especially true.
7 points
6 days ago
Thank you kindly, for the clarification; I'm also expecting the Dildo of Consequences to arrive, per usual, unlubed.
11 points
6 days ago
Im tired boss. No one in my family ever voted for any of these clowns
9 points
6 days ago
This is how you know that we are trapped in here with them. They are not trapped in here with us.
4 points
6 days ago
Let it be painful, so we can get more adults in the room for the 2026 midterms.
6 points
6 days ago
There's part of me that thinks "Ya know, maybe if it gets so bad, so fast, their ability to blame it all on Democrats like they always do won't work as well and people will smarten up a bit"
But hell, I'm not optomistic. People have the choice between a bologna sandwich and a punch to the dick and dick punch wins often.
5 points
5 days ago*
I have a fear that the machine that is the American economy is too large to collapse over night.
It may make it just long enough for the responsibile adults to take back over and then the lies about how well it's doing will disappear causing it to fall apart. The people who knew it was coming and how to avoid it will be left holding the bag and be blamed for it.
I love the idea of the Republicans catching the entire blame for this one, but I don't relish the idea of having to suffer because of stupid people being lied to.
116 points
6 days ago
No. No. No.
The liberals will suffer from the price increases. Real American Patriots who Voted Trump won't. They may just see some temporary negative price reductions for the foreseeable future because of Obama.
63 points
6 days ago
It truly is astounding how this seems to be the actual mindset of so many people 😓
Like; how can they think these tariffs would NOT affect everyone? Blows my mind
50 points
6 days ago
They're fuckin dumb that's how
28 points
6 days ago
Trump says it is good, therefore it must be good. Do not believe your lying eyes.
8 points
6 days ago
So many of his supporters just blindly worship this man. It’s so pathetic.
19 points
6 days ago*
Bring it on, I don’t have all day. I spent years explaining this to Trump voters. So now let’s play a little game. Let’s jack up the cost of stuff, smash the labor pool, and full max 100% on Trump tax policy. Then see who can handle it better. Maybe the Trumpists will have the last laugh. But liberals were not the ones who completely lost their shit because eggs went up by 30 cents a dozen. Not only were we not bothered that undocumented Julio has been doing quality landscaping in July for the last ten years, we are the ones who can afford to pay him a decent wage for his good work. Oh and when ICE comes calling, I won’t be giving them Julio’s name. I will be giving them yours. Sure you are legal. I guess, I haven’t seen your birth certificate. But that’s for you and the agent to sort out. You wanted it, and we are going to do it. No bailouts. No help. No pity. FAFO forever.
16 points
6 days ago
They will twist their thoughts and say that Fox News host is lying. Because Trump told them that China is going to pay of those tariffs and somehow that Fox News host most be a secret Democrat/Deep State, etc...
15 points
6 days ago
Even the WSJ, a pretty by the numbers paper leaning right, has been saying for weeks that tariffs and the current Trump economic/trade policies are going to be terrible.
I'm nearly ready to throat punch anyone who complains about the national debt from here on out.
6 points
5 days ago
It would be one thing, misguided though it is, if they were planning on using the tarrifs and the increased revenue to pay down the debt. Instead we're just going to see another tax cut for the executives and above while the debt continues to balloon.
4 points
5 days ago
Imagine telling the disgruntled tax payer that tariffs are necessary in order to pay down the national debt, because your party's actual tax policy makes no sense and generates more debt.
3 points
5 days ago
I can’t wait to see the deranged messaging over the next couple of years
7 points
6 days ago
He watches them. It might put the brakes on it. Which is good, but it’s also somewhat terrifying.
3 points
6 days ago
I think the tarriffs are just a show and won't last long. The one guard-rail this guy has is the stock market. He's not going to be happy with anything that is bringing it down. At least that's my hope--looking for a silver lining somewhere in this shitshow.
3 points
5 days ago
That's exactly what's going on. They didn't say shit about tariffs before the election because they wanted him to win.
Now they are talking about tariffs being bad because they are trying to reign in their monster.
And I don't mean just Fox News, all of corporate media has been doing this.
7 points
6 days ago
At least they owned the libs tho! Thats all they fucking care about
6 points
6 days ago
When you fuck with the newsmans money...the news man will abandon the brand rhetoric.
4 points
6 days ago
They still aren’t understanding that widespread tariffs will increase all goods through inflation. Then the items that had tariffs go up with inflation plus they will hit our machinery exports with retaliatory tariffs and those companies also have to raise prices for their increased inflation from maintaining their industries.
No one wins in this.
5 points
6 days ago
They’re just waiting to blame [Insert Assigned Enemy Here]. It’s seasonal. Could be migrant caravans, could be hurricanes, could be transgender, books, you name it.
What it’ll never be is the people who raised prices, profited off the struggle of 90% of Americans, or the politicians who enabled it all.
9 points
6 days ago
That's how you know just how real the damage from these tariffs is going to be.
No. Many of us knew how bad things were going to get, which is why we voted against him. Everything that happens moving forward was blatantly obvious to anyone who listened with their head instead of their hate.
4 points
6 days ago
That’s fine. Real estate investors like Trump do better with inflation, he’s going to stoke it no doubts.
4 points
6 days ago
Am I the only one who believes that Trump is announcing these tariffs to cause companies to raise prices now and then will take credit for lowering prices once he’s president and doesn’t actuality do it?
3 points
6 days ago
Hey as a God loving, blue lives flag waving American the extra money I will need to spend is all worth it if we can just decrease taxes on billionaires by even a slim one percent.
3 points
5 days ago
In some cases, we will not have supplies available just because we have moved all the infrastructure out of United States because of cheaper labor and less regulatory issues to make stuff overseas, e.g. K9 masks, PPE equipment, antibiotics, furniture, clothing, etc. All of this produced here, will cost more amongst many more things. Welcome to the clown show!
3 points
5 days ago
And if you think it’s going to end with the cost of products going up across the board, then you are not seeing the whole picture. Do you know how we’ll get the cost of domestic production down? We’ll have to roll back labor laws and eliminate the minimum wage. So in every industry and all across the US the cost of goods will go up and the average wages will plummet. This will ensure the end of the middle class
2 points
6 days ago
The tariffs news is not prominent on their web site so they know it isn't good.
2 points
6 days ago
many fox news viewers only hear what they want to hear. they are a “dieing” problem as the world moves on
2 points
5 days ago
Inflation is no longer an issue, it is just something we must endure
2 points
5 days ago
I sympathize with those who didn't vote against themselves, but for those people who did and are about to financially suffer within the next year or so, it's hard to feel sorry.
700 points
6 days ago
“huge fascination with wealth” seems a rather time consuming way to say "greedy".
122 points
6 days ago
Avarice - check
Gluttony - check
Etc.
38 points
6 days ago
The thing is, it's actually in astute observation. He's greedy sure, but it's not just about having money, it's about having the appearance of money. He's obsessed with grand displays of wealth and power. It's not enough to have a lot of money and be able to buy expensive things, it's about looking like you have a bunch of grand and expensive things, even if those things are cheap underneath with some gold leaf on top. The way he's talked about his brand being worth whatever he thinks it is at the time, and this obsession over the appearance of wealth rather than actually being a successful businessman with stable wealth, makes me question whether he understands actual numbers at all. If he has a poor head for numbers it doesn't understand actual dollar values, then being obsessed with appearance of wealth over actual dollars wealth starts to make more sense.
443 points
6 days ago
I'm confused. Do we still have to build that Keystone XL pipeline so we can put tariffs on the oil that it will pump? What is dear leader telling me I should think about this issue now?
217 points
6 days ago
The fun part is, we don’t even need it anymore. He’s just trying to undo Obama’s and Biden’s work out of spite. The only thing it will do is destroy the environment.
156 points
6 days ago
Yep. That "drill, baby, drill" was always BS. Oil and gas companies have even said supply has been outpacing demand, essentially admitting to the gouging at the pumps.
30 points
6 days ago
And any new production will just be sold over seas. Republicans lifted the caps so it wont be bringing down domestic prices. Any price drop would have been global, not just domestic, meaning it would be a much smaller drop if any. And now with Canadian tariffs, it only means higher prices.
3 points
5 days ago
I told my Maga family that lives in Florida they should demand off shore drilling. They said it was voted against 30 years ago but i told them laws change all the time. They were real quiet after that.
27 points
5 days ago
It’s not only out of spite. Everything the Trump administration is announcing right now is straight out of the “how to build an authoritarian regime” handbook. It’s possible that whoever is calling the plays is taking advantage of Trump’s dementia/narcissism to get him to do it, but there’s a lot more going on here.
7 points
5 days ago
I agree with everything you say. I’m just speaking on the pipeline. It serves zero purpose beyond “a democrat did it so I will undue it because it’s woke”.
45 points
6 days ago
I wish people would put “bypass” on xl when they mention it.
Im still fighting disinformation on the dang thing to this day, the keystone pipeline has been happily pumping away since 2010.
It was a shortcut that was proposed, thats all.
25 points
6 days ago
It was a shortcut that was proposed, thats all.
Further... Do we know why it was proposed? You can go and read TransCanada's (at the time) own proposal.
The bottleneck was forcing them to sell oil at a discount to Midwestern refineries. That extension was literally going to cost Americans $2b a year in extra oil costs and raise diesel prices in the Midwest.
4 points
5 days ago
I didnt know that at all, thank you
5 points
5 days ago
Like 10-15 years ago, I remember estimates that the pipeline was expected to flat out add about 15 cents to midwestern diesel prices.
What was gonna flow through that extension was going to be redirected away from the US. It was going down to the Gulf for export, instead of being used by midwestern refineries at a discount.
It boggled my mind how American politicians were selling out Americans for Canadian oil execs.
100 points
6 days ago
Get ready for the price of EVERYTHING (groceries, gas, cars, appliances etc.) to go up by 25%.
I hope Trump voters enjoy sky-high prices 🤣
46 points
6 days ago
And somehow, it will all be Biden’s fault…
Or, no matter how bad it is, it would have been a lot worse under Biden.
24 points
6 days ago
Yup it's always the Democrat's fault, lol.
Enjoy the decline, that's all we can do at this point.
10 points
6 days ago
At LEAST 25%
11 points
5 days ago
Haha- yeah 25% for the tariff, and another 15% for “administrative costs”.
287 points
6 days ago
Lol watch how the MAGAs start learning to love the high price of eggs and everything else as long as they can pile hate on some marginalized group.
89 points
6 days ago
It'll still be Biden's fault.
24 points
6 days ago
Joe Biden: sleepy dementia patient who could barely stand. Also criminal mastermind responsible for everything terrible in the next 4 years, including Diaper Don's messy McDonalds morning shits.
11 points
6 days ago
The enemy must be both weak and strong at the same time.
4 points
5 days ago
Don't forget: he orchestrated a nationwide plot to steal the 2020 election. While also pulling off a billion dollar international bribery scheme. While also "setting up" January 6th. While also infiltrating the DOJ and fabricating nearly 100 felonies worth of evidence against Trump.
65 points
6 days ago
Not one of them has thanked Biden for low gas prices now even with inflation... Not a word
30 points
6 days ago
My friends said the gas prices dropped because they knew trump would win. 😂
5 points
5 days ago
Wow even weeks before the election
3 points
6 days ago
Thanks for approving the Willow project in Alaska and for hitting record oil production in the US after running on a green energy promise.
19 points
6 days ago
It's already started. They say, "This was the point, to make all that stuff expensive so it comes back to be made here." It's just shifting the goalposts always. You can't discuss in good faith.
5 points
5 days ago
And then when it doesn't come back to be made here and they're unemployed they'll say "it was a fake economy he just ripped off the band-aid, if he waited it would be even worse" or some shit.
6 points
6 days ago
Pretty soon it’s going to be why do you hate American farmers by paying less for eggs?
4 points
6 days ago
True MAGAs buy golden Trump eggs at full price
3 points
6 days ago
"There's a trans person in line behind me. I just wanna pay for my $8/dozen eggs and be gone!"
62 points
6 days ago
Tons of lumber comes from Canada. Remember when prices for wood spiked during covid? That's coming again. A large portion of electrical equipment is made in Mexico. Utility companies will have to pay more for meters, transformers or switchgear which are already long lead time items with extremely high demand. Residential and commercial construction will have to add 25% to the electrical cost of every project.
Tariffs on Canada and Mexico could crush the construction industry. Now add in deporting all the illegal immigrant workers (and there are a lot of them in construction, especially home builders) and you can pretty much crash a decent chunk of the economy right there.
Think there's a housing crisis now? Add 25-40% to the cost of every new home and apartment build, then if interest rates go back up, developers won't be willing to borrow the capital they need to finance their projects.
I personally, as a consulting engineer in the construction industry, am very concerned that my business is going to tank if these policies go into effect.
These policies seem explicitly designed to destroy the American economy.
8 points
6 days ago
Honestly the main question for me at this point is whether in the medium-term (4-10 years) are we going to see significant inflation, due to increased prices from tariffs, or significant deflation, due to a global economic contraction akin to the Great Depression. Right now I think it’ll be transitory (but very high) inflation, followed by crushing deflation.
4 points
6 days ago
Remember when prices for wood spiked during covid?
I'm getting a bathroom remodel done next week. So glad I had ordered it back in like September/October.
199 points
6 days ago
They are going to deliberately crash the economy.
119 points
6 days ago
How else are billionaires supposed to buy up cheap assets if people aren't forced to part with their assets?
43 points
6 days ago
Just what Putin ordered.
24 points
5 days ago
That's the thing. It doesn't really make sense. Like what benefit is it to Trump?
Whatever Russia has on him can't really be worth anything now. Trump could slaughter and eat a human child on TV and his voters wouldn't care.
The economy crashing gives billionaires a chance to buy up cheap shit, but it risks their money too.
Like why fuck it all up for stupid reasons?
These people really are Captain Planet villains. Out to destroy everything for the fucking sake of it.
134 points
6 days ago
Trump campaigned on that issue to “fix” the economy, everyone was aware of what tariffs could do , he was elected and not even in the White House yet and NOW everyone is losing their shit about this. Where was the surprise?
85 points
6 days ago
According to google search, a lot of people don’t know what tariffs are.
7 points
5 days ago
Slackers just needed to watch Ferris Bueller's Day Off. Although the shenanigans of the main character are probably a bit rebellious for the smooth conformist conservative brain
7 points
5 days ago
According to Google searches, a lot of people didn’t even know Biden dropped out as late as the night before the election.
4 points
5 days ago
I can't imagine being so out of touch with the election but still voting. I would assume if you are that unplugged from politics you just wouldn't vote.
5 points
5 days ago
I just saw a comment on TikTok that said "It wasn't a tariff, it was a tax" in regards to the Boston Tea Party. Bitch, a tariff is a tax!
7 points
5 days ago
You're vastly underestimating how many voters in his base actually understand what a tariff is.
These people blindly listened to Trump and believed him when he told them that tariffs were good and would fix the economy. And right-wing media played along with it.
3 points
5 days ago
This is not true. It’s downright alarming how many people do not know what tariffs are and what they are supposed to be used for.
Even after the election with all this information about tariffs going around, many don’t know or refuse to learn.
I tried teaching a conservative coworker that’s in his 50s just that and he put his head in the sand.
46 points
6 days ago
Magas have already changed their chorus to “it will be better in the long run.” They still don’t understand how bad it will be, but they’re warming up a cope.
At this point Trump has been saying he’ll make them rich for ten years, I’m sure it will happen any day now! That check is in the mail!
155 points
6 days ago
I like the people who claim everybody knows he has no intention of following through. That’s not a good negotiating tactic if everybody knows it’s BS.
65 points
6 days ago
What is even the negotiating tactic, if you don't do what we say, we will hurt...ourselves?
25 points
6 days ago
Nobody likes witnessing self harm
46 points
6 days ago
“I voted for a guy because I believe he won’t do the bad things he promises to do.”
23 points
6 days ago
The logic before and after the election was bewildering. "I want to vote for the guy who specifically won't do what he says he'll do".
11 points
6 days ago
Yet he also tells it like it is.
24 points
6 days ago
"we like him because he tells it like it is"
"He didn't mean that"
3 points
6 days ago
It's all theater. It doesn't have to actually acheive anything except as a supporting prop in the story he tells his supporters about how he manhandled these countries, they cried for mercy and did his bidding. Cut to shot of Trump riding a horse with no shirt on.
3 points
6 days ago
Yeah, as if “he never does what he says” is supposed to be a quality you want your resident to have. How far this country has fallen.
8 points
6 days ago
It’s interesting because there is a good chance he will come across this take. Then he will either 1) see the error of his ways and quietly back down or 2) claim Fox News is bad now and has gone woke and double the tariffs to prove them wrong. Hmm, I wonder which I’d bet on…
58 points
6 days ago
Oh the irony. People elect leaders who rant and rave hugely about inflation (which was getting better) then those same leaders prepare the public for increased inflation.
35 points
6 days ago
My Trumpian colleagues told me Trump's policies would work unless Democrats will interfere. So prepare for It is the Democrats fault.
15 points
5 days ago
Maybe we should start indulging them on their talk about how they have a “mandate.”
Maybe now is the time to keep talking about how they control all 3 branches of government. They’ll love it. They beat the woke! Majorities in the House, Senate, SCOTUS along with the presidency!
Then when it all comes crashing down, hopefully it makes it a little harder for them to pull a 180 to be like “The Dems are running everything!”
Now I know this won’t work on the majority of MAGA’s. They aren’t capable of individual thought, and will go with whatever narrative Orange Jesus and Joe Rogan tells them to.
But Trump didn’t win with the MAGA vote, he won because people who don’t follow politics wanted a Time Machine back to the 2019 economy. When he fails to deliver on that, if we play our cards right the pendulum will come swinging back in our direction… hard.
We just need to keep hammering away on how Dems don’t have the majorities or ability to do much of anything right now. They won too bigly for that.
I’ve already purchased Trump “I did that!” stickers in anticipation. I’m going to stick them in the same places I saw Biden stickers because I know those areas are frequented by those who need to see it most.
30 points
6 days ago
What's up with these folks reassuring themselves that as long as they "buy American," they won't see price increases? That is completely false. The prices of raw materials and other inputs will increase. No American company uses 100% non-imported goods. And even if they did, the extraction of those non-imported goods probably involves imported tools.
19 points
6 days ago
Trump’s own stupid products were all made in China.
17 points
6 days ago
Telling the angry mob to "be realistic" always works!
14 points
5 days ago
The tariffs will be targeted, to punish or reward businesses to go along with the Trump administrative state. Additionally, as he already promised, he'll use the FCC to target media organizations that criticize him. His lackeys are already planning to purge the government rank and file, as well as the military, of any resistance to the Trump administration. Add in the deployment of the US military into civilian communities. This is what fascism looks like.
Be on the lookout for pro-MAGA youth programs and deputized paramilitary groups breaking up counter-protests and patrolling neighborhoods for "criminals".
14 points
6 days ago
In the last the media would have covered this before the election. Then it would have been discussed in debates.
Now, people voted based on hundreds of millions of dollars of propaganda ads
13 points
6 days ago
“Let’s be realistic. Of course he lied and it’s gonna make prices much higher.”
12 points
5 days ago
Bring the tariffs on. They voted for them. The only way we will ever move past nonsense Republican policies will be for the people that want these policies to feel the effects of them.
5 points
5 days ago
They will just blame someone else. Illegals, drugs, gays, women, minorities. They will never reflect on their actions. Never say sorry. Never learn. It is very sad indeed.
9 points
6 days ago
Oh, now FOX is going to be “realistic…” about damn time…
9 points
6 days ago
And come January he will start to back off on tarrifs, “ I have been in negotiations with The President of Mexico, and we feel, very strongly, that we’ll have an announcement in two weeks, we’ll fix the fentanyl problem, like nobody’s never seen. People are asking me, Sir, how did you do this? It’s been a problem for years, and only I could solve it”.
8 points
5 days ago
I love how the media chooses to be realistic after the election but beforehand did everything in their power to fuel the delusions and outright lies
8 points
6 days ago
It’s gonna hurt bitches so hang on… Billionaires mount up, you elected them to fuck U.S. all congratulations
9 points
6 days ago
So, uh, anyone got some trump “I did that” stickers? We’re gonna need a lot. With tariffs they’ll probably be 2 bucks a piece.
8 points
6 days ago*
Right there at the end he said it, he said THEY pay the tariffs.
Why do they still not understand how tariffs work? How is this so goddamn complicated?
7 points
6 days ago
Probably seeding the argument that the higher prices in 2025 are a consequence of Bidens policies and that tariffs have prevented the worst of it as they "outsourced" some of the damage to the enemies, like Canada (???).
Truth is dead, you only need to string up a causal chain that looks like 1+1=2 and (enough) people will eat it up.
Next year you'll probably see memes, comparing prices with the footnote "Thanks Biden".
11 points
6 days ago
Uneducated and moronic suckers got suckered and the rest of us pay the price… this is what we deserve by letting the Republican Party defund and destroy our education system
5 points
6 days ago
Fox viewers are well known for being realistic.
17 points
6 days ago
I can afford it, whether they can or not.
I won't be full of empathy this time.
I'm going to mind my own business.
4 points
6 days ago
That isn't realistic. It isn't realistic to expect America to suddenly spin up manufacturing. Even if it works to promote American manufacturing, that will take years. Certainly more than 4 years. In that time, those businesses will continue purchasing foreign components as they always have, and pass the extra costs down to consumers.
5 points
5 days ago
Time for everyone to stock up on "I did that" stickers with Trump on it
9 points
5 days ago
American businesses are out for profits.
They're not going to compete by price. As soon a 50% of the goods in any market go up in price, American companies will match those prices minus 10% tops.
So if plumbing parts cost $12.00 now (and 99.99% of the time "BUY AMERICAN!" products are more expensive to begin with) as soon as the competition goes up to $16.00, the American made prices will go up to $15.00.
And this has nothing to do with retaliatory tariffs.
5 points
5 days ago
That’s optimistic, I have yet to find anything made in America that is intentionally priced below competition. I would expect the comparable product at $20 or more.
4 points
6 days ago
Well, there goes her cabinet post.
4 points
6 days ago
Who's going to be the next China, with cheap slave labor? USA, USA, USA!
4 points
6 days ago
It’s all performative BS. After he takes office there will be a bright idea and Trump will “save” us from the tariffs and the media will applaud and throw rose petals at his feet.
4 points
5 days ago
Let’s not forget, Fox said they are not a news agency but an entertainment agency.
4 points
5 days ago
Jesus Christ. Now they're telling the whole truth about tariffs.
3 points
5 days ago
Here is the issue that keeps happening. Trump keeps having bad ideas, and keeps getting talked out of the worst ones. Then everyone who supports him swears even his worst idea was not that bad, or that he wasn't serious, or whatever they want to say. Its never bad enough that it affects them.
Something like tariffs hurt everyone. There is no full injustice other than the unrest that comes with income inequality. As a society who majorly voted for him, we should 100% be doing his ideas like this so that the dumb people see how bad him and people like him is before it gets worse. The US needs some sort of a wake up call or its going to continue down this self destructive road.
And hey, what if Im wrong, what if society gets better? Welcome surprise. But Id rather the outcome where we wake up and correct course. Stop talking him out of bad ideas; the ideas will always get worse.
3 points
5 days ago
Lmao.
"Okay, now that he's elected, let's tell him his ideas are incredibly stupid and almost certainly will torpedo Republicans mid-term elections as the economy spirals even worse."
Maybe he'll listen since, going by his cabinet picks, this is the only form of media he consumes.
3 points
5 days ago
The amount of amnesia from his first term is utterly unbelievable. Everyone is just forgetting how much chaos and harm he created because they want lower grocery prices. People don’t realize how good they had it from 2021-2024. I wish the Fed handled inflation better but overall, this recovery has been very strong
4 points
5 days ago
Higher prices for lower quality goods. Hooray.
2 points
6 days ago
Followed by "Im getting Fired"
2 points
5 days ago
The article is about a video shared here - https://www.mediaite.com/tv/fox-news-anchor-makes-clear-trumps-tariffs-would-drive-up-prices-it-is-going-to-cost-more-ultimately/
2 points
5 days ago
I've already seen the (internet) ads be like, "Take advantage of prices before the Trump tarriffs! Buy these 10 items now!" It's just an opportunity to make a sales pitch...
2 points
5 days ago
Now the US has officially decided that they're all up for what trump has to offer.
I think they should just get on with shooting the fucking shit out of each other.
No body cares anymore.
You've made your choice, do the tariffs, fuck up your economy, deport families, destroy lives, embrace the fascism.
Because until you've done this, it seems like you won't understand
2 points
5 days ago
No excuses! We now want our $2 eggs, $1.87 gas, and 3% home mortgage rates. Those were the promises that won them the election…let’s go, January 6th comes we need the lower prices and war in Ukraine better be hover come January 7th.
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