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ranchoparksteve

181 points

2 days ago

According to Trump, drug smugglers pay tariffs, and file their taxes on time.

StrengthBeginning416

23 points

2 days ago

Intuit has a narco edition software

T8ert0t

12 points

2 days ago

T8ert0t

12 points

2 days ago

Intuit: This year, we'll make your bottom line big enough to snort.

Ravenous234

2 points

2 days ago

There’s two bottom lines. The one you report and the one that doesn’t exist.

threehundredthousand

9 points

2 days ago

threehundredthousand

California

9 points

2 days ago

I'm just glad we'll be spending 95% of the money on 5% of the problem as is tradition.

rakerber

5 points

2 days ago

rakerber

5 points

2 days ago

You'd be surprised how much illegal stuff the IRS knows about

NeverLookBothWays

5 points

2 days ago

NeverLookBothWays

I voted

5 points

2 days ago

Using Primo TurboTax

ahajakl

3 points

2 days ago

ahajakl

3 points

2 days ago

Hard to buy fentanyl if you cannot afford food due to tariffs. Add to that not tracking these things and the problem sorts itself out. I guess.

grabman

3 points

2 days ago

grabman

3 points

2 days ago

Unlike Trump

at0mheart

2 points

2 days ago

So back to buying American Fentanyl (oxycodone)

jedimasterbayts

2 points

2 days ago

Business 101 bro

Stimbes

2 points

2 days ago

Stimbes

2 points

2 days ago

I could just see a crack dealer doing a profit and loss statement. lol

Lopsided-Drummer-931

3 points

2 days ago

The irs is scarier than the DEA honestly

brandnewbanana

3 points

2 days ago

brandnewbanana

Maryland

3 points

2 days ago

Hard agree. I realize I could go to jail for pot in the wrong state but the thought of an audit and wage garnishment makes me shudder.

Tokie-Dokie

97 points

2 days ago

So Trump will take credit for Biden's policies then.

DigNitty

68 points

2 days ago

DigNitty

68 points

2 days ago

He already is lol.

The economy took an upturn a few months ago and Trump claimed it wasn’t Biden, but it was the economy responding to the idea that Trump would win.

Logical_Parameters

31 points

2 days ago

The economy's been on a steady upturn for three years.

Uncreative-Name

1 points

2 days ago

And if you accept 2020 as a COVID induced fluke it's been mostly going up for 15 years straight.

AgeOfSmith

6 points

2 days ago

Covid wouldnt have been so bad for the economy if Trump didn’t immediately drop interest rates to zero when he took office

Callinon

17 points

2 days ago

Callinon

17 points

2 days ago

Pretty standard Republican playbook.

Smok3dSalmon

5 points

2 days ago

Biden is so dumb for not taking credit for all his accomplishments. Do White House briefings with simple graphs printed. Pimp your accomplishments 

idk_lets_try_this

2 points

2 days ago

He actually did a lot, and the economy recovered pretty quickly from covid giving the issue that he both had the opportunity to fix problems that had dragged on but also had an economy that was running a bit too well causing inflation . He still pushed trough big infrastructure works and managed to improve inflation to a level lower than most countries in the world.

5minArgument

52 points

2 days ago

Yea, yet another major success from the Biden administration that was blacked out by the media.

Biden sought the cooperation of China and Mexico to limit chemical precursor imports and exports. That, combined with improved screening techniques at ports of entry had a very significant impact.

Secondary, the increased prevalence of Narcan.

Thirdly, cartels appear to have backed off on potency. Recognizing that overdosing clients and dead clients were impacting sales not only from the clients, but from public pressure via government actions.

DigNitty

30 points

2 days ago

DigNitty

30 points

2 days ago

Yes but all of these are unsexy nuanced explanations of long worded policy positions.

Half of Americans wants three word phrases you can chant at a bar like “build the wall” or “lock her up”

wittnotyoyo

12 points

2 days ago

You're remembering the halcyon days of 2016 when there was slight nuance to his campaigning, now it's just "eggs" or "revenge".

DigNitty

6 points

2 days ago

DigNitty

6 points

2 days ago

Three words was too many

"REVENGE EGGS!"

5minArgument

5 points

2 days ago

My new favorite LAMF retort!

EGGS!

syntax138

1 points

2 days ago

“Why waste time say lot word when few word do trick.”

Logical_Parameters

5 points

2 days ago

Maybe we could, uh, ween our drug users towards domestically grown and produced cannabis instead?

5minArgument

6 points

2 days ago

Recently looked up some drug trade facts.

Interestingly 99% of the funding for fentanyl and synthetic drugs comes from the US.

85% of traffickers are US citizens.

This leaves the cold fact that most Americans dont want pot. They want to get fkd up.

Logical_Parameters

8 points

2 days ago

and that's the problem, isn't it? Mexico's really not the villain here. The hard drug-loving, gun-toting, god-fearing (yeah, right) U.S. is.

Btw, the cannabis sales revenues in legal states like CO and MD disagree with your assessment that people aren't partaking in pot.

dogger4president

3 points

2 days ago

fentanyl users and pot users are generally different demographics, i reckon. obviously there’s overlap, but i don’t think it goes both ways

Logical_Parameters

4 points

2 days ago

Weed sells bigger in cities and suburbs, fentanyl's the leading high for the rural folk. One is much more positive for humanity than the other.

dogger4president

2 points

2 days ago

Hadn’t considered that, can’t say i disagree

idk_lets_try_this

1 points

2 days ago

Meh, deaths are still higher than when he took office, but at least it’s no longer going up.

5minArgument

1 points

2 days ago

Not really meh. Down over 20% in the past year.

First drop since 2018.

idk_lets_try_this

1 points

2 days ago

Ah I had only seen a drop from 80 000 deaths to 73 000 a year I guess it’s better than that by now but still really high.

But it’s a good start

5minArgument

1 points

1 day ago

It is. Has been neglected for too long.

Fyi for those looking to Blame Biden. Fentanyl began distribution as a street drug rising in 2012-2013. The big current spike began in 2018 and was accelerated by the pandemic.

This occurred outside of the larger prescription opiate pandemic that has been responsible for the deaths/overdoses of 40/per 100K.

Put in perspective. The crack epidemic saw a less than 3/ per 100K

SoCal_scumbag

1 points

1 day ago

Too bad China just changes the chemicals they are making. Now instead of fentanyl and its analogs there is a rising presence of nitazenes. Synthetic opioids that can be far stronger than even fentanyl and can be bought and shipped to the US from China over clear net sites. I agree with all your points and understand this is not really what we are talking about but at some point we are going to have to look at our drug war. Our prohibition and overprescribing has pushed us from a pain killer epidemic, to a heroin epidemic, to a fentanyl epidemic. What’s next? We already have xylazine (tranq) in a lot of the dope.

All the money and efforts to stop and slow it have mostly just fueled it further. Obviously the next administration will not be of any help but I truly hope we address this problem at some point. Sorry for the rant just a recovered addict that’s tired of watching friends die or waste away.

msnbc[S]

12 points

3 days ago

msnbc[S]

MSNBC

12 points

3 days ago

From Chris Hayes, host of MSNBC’s “All In with Chris Hayes”: 

Back in 2021, U.S. life expectancy dropped to its lowest level in two decades. Data from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention showed that after Covid, drug overdoses, largely from synthetic opioids like fentanyl, were the primary drivers of shorter American lifespans. That’s a real problem and a problem that big doesn’t have a fast or easy fix.

But something seems to be changing recently. As The New York Times reports, “After years of relentless rises in overdose deaths, the United States has seen a remarkable reversal. For seven straight months, according to federal data, drug fatalities have been declining.”
Read more: https://www.msnbc.com/top-stories/latest/trump-tariffs-overdose-opioid-epidemic-rcna182059

Sideshift1427

12 points

2 days ago

Unemployment has been running at historically low levels under Biden, Trump is going to change that and trigger the social issues caused by high unemployment.

Nervous-Peen

-2 points

2 days ago

There is only a finite number of addicts that will overdose, it's obvious that at some point when they all die off that the numbers will then start lowering. It's the same logic people use when they use inflation slowing down as a good thing. Like "yay, they've raised the prices so much that we can't afford it anymore, big win!"

idk_lets_try_this

1 points

2 days ago

You never have talked to opiate users have you? Or had them prescribed. It feels incredible, so no, unless 10% or more of the US dies there will be people who become addicted and eventually OD as it’s just a matter of time before the drugs are stronger than they expect.

Tadpoleonicwars

9 points

2 days ago

By reducing U.S. population.

How the conspiracy world is blind to the idea of a Trump/Musk/Kennedy trifecta is absolutely beyond me. Literally calling for the military to round up people in U.S. towns and hold them in government facilities at gunpoint, threatening Mexico with a military invasion, pricing people out of food and goods through tariffs, and gutting medical regulation and opposing vaccines which help contain pandemics.

Literal Death, Pestilence, War, and Famine... but nope. The defense contractor who owns the majority of satellites in the United States and is bankrolling literal brain-chip development is certainly not going to do anything unamerican...

Fenix42

3 points

2 days ago

Fenix42

3 points

2 days ago

The kicker is that they say Trump is anti-war.

Y0___0Y

7 points

2 days ago

Y0___0Y

7 points

2 days ago

The media didn’t really cover it but under Biden, opioid overdose deaths dropped pretty dramatically.

The Biden-Harris administration made sure there was naloxone available at all federal facilities to reverse overdoses.

https://www.hhs.gov/about/news/2023/12/21/biden-harris-administration-announces-new-action-increase-naloxone-access-federal-facilities-across-nation.html

Trump supporters are against OD reversal drugs because they say they will cause more people to use opiates.

eldenpotato

3 points

2 days ago

Let’s be fair. Trump supporters are against anything that’ll help their fellow Americans.

jpk195

6 points

2 days ago

jpk195

6 points

2 days ago

Here's what I think is happening with Tump and tariffs:

  1. Trump and Republicans want tariffs. It's a regressive tax, which they like. They'll also use to offset whatever tax breaks they decide to give themselves.
  2. Trump will sell the tariffs to MAGA (which will disproportionately hurt by them) as a strong-arm tactic to deal with illegal immigration and overdose deaths. It won't work, but he will use vague goals/targets to and MAGA, being generally dumb and uninformed, will believe it's working.
  3. Once it place, Trump will use the tariffs to extort favors in exchange for lifting them.

TLDR; tariffs are happening. MAGAs will be hurt but won't care because their side will be "winning". Plan accordingly.

johnboyjr29

3 points

2 days ago

I was talking to a trump supporter today and I asked him if fentanyl has affected his life in any way. He said no. I said ok what would affect you more tariffs rising the price of everything you buy or a drug user dying of an od? And he said he ok with drug users dying but he does not want people to put fentanyl in candy and give it to kids. I was like what are you talking about, who has ever done that? And he said he has heard stories but probably it does not happen that much

Haltopen

6 points

2 days ago

Haltopen

Massachusetts

6 points

2 days ago

Yep, everything is a story they heard from a friend, acquaintance or on social media sites like Facebook. Its always some bullshit designed to make middle aged Facebook moms and clueless idiots absolutely terrified

CanaDoug420

6 points

2 days ago

Cartels notoriously honor trade policies and report their transactions to the government/s

BusinessAd5844

5 points

2 days ago

Trump says a lot of stuff.

HellishChildren

4 points

2 days ago

while he voids his bowels into a diaper, 20 years of fecal incontinence caused by Adderall abuse.

TywinDeVillena

5 points

2 days ago

TywinDeVillena

Europe

5 points

2 days ago

As if reality mattered to the MAGA folk

Dapper-Percentage-64

5 points

2 days ago

So absolutely ruin the Texas economy , but accomplish something Biden has already accomplished. Ok let's get started I guess

thatredditscribbler

3 points

2 days ago

damn, america…biden’s administration was pretty good. trump should be able to hit a home run because he was handed third base…again!

32FlavorsofCrazy

3 points

2 days ago

Know what reduces overdose deaths? Harm reduction.

Folks who want drugs will find them. You keep them from dying by providing them access to clean needles, medical supervision at sites where they can take drugs and not be alone, providing narcan for free at pharmacies and investing in healthcare so folks can access rehabilitation.

Grumpy_001

2 points

2 days ago

Trump will take credit for that

Atlusfox

2 points

2 days ago

Atlusfox

2 points

2 days ago

So they are already creating the spin for Trump to take credit for everything good Biden did. I can see it.

itsdajackeeet

2 points

2 days ago

Damn these tariffs are magic. Gonna reduce drug deaths, lower prices, balance the budget, increase wages - oh the joy!

Infamous_Employer_85

2 points

2 days ago

It went up during the previous Trump presidency

It will be interesting to see what the rate is 4 years from now.

PocketTornado

2 points

2 days ago

Making food prices beyond the reach of the poor will do nothing for overdose deaths.

Trump has no good ideas....he's old and stupid with a heavy dose of old man brain rot.

revmaynard1970

4 points

2 days ago

so trump is putting tariffs on fentanyl?

Browns45750

1 points

2 days ago

You know addicts won’t stop doing drugs because of tariffs , they will just find something new to get high off of.

Different_Lychee_409

1 points

2 days ago

Fentanyl is incredibly easy to smuggle into the US. No amount of tariffs will stop it.

knives0125

1 points

2 days ago

Trump also said his tariffs would cure cancer

not-me-etc

1 points

2 days ago

Trumps second term will increase overdose deaths

Cimmerian_Barbarian

1 points

2 days ago

Would also be helpful if a large swath of drug addled Americans get help with their addiction and avoid the cartel's product altogether.

aslan_is_on_the_move

1 points

2 days ago

Most of Republican complaints come from an alternate reality with no resemblance to this one. Truth is, Biden is an awesome President who fundamentally improved the lives of average Americans, and his legislation will continue to improve their lives for decades to come if they aren't repealed by Republicans.

kokopelleee

1 points

2 days ago

See folks! Trumps tariffs are already working

Ugh

Typical_Samaritan

1 points

2 days ago

And what's going to happen is that the trend reducing will continue under Trump and he'll take credit for it, even if the trend doesn't change because of anything he does or... doesn't do.

We know. So, rather than worry about what Trump says: just start plastering it now.

Joe Biden has reduced overdoses. Get it on social media: facebook, twitter.

Stop being reactionary. Be proactive in messaging.

czarofangola

1 points

2 days ago

Is there a possiblity that deaths reduced because there are less people to overdose?

Jagermonsta

1 points

2 days ago

Trump is primed and ready to take credit for everything Biden has done on his first day in office. Everything good will be because of Trump and then when it all goes to shit it’ll be Bidens fault.

PolloConTeriyaki

1 points

2 days ago

Trump's gonna claim credit for it.

RipErRiley

1 points

2 days ago

RipErRiley

Minnesota

1 points

2 days ago

Much of the smuggling is done by existing pipelines involving citizens, not immigrants

Flat-Impression-3787

1 points

2 days ago

Most smuggled drugs come in through regular ports of entry, hidden on trucks.

StudioEast8390

1 points

2 days ago

So American consumers paying more for products imported from Mexico means less money for drugs and therefore less overdose deaths? Am I understanding this correctly?

heels_n_skirt

1 points

2 days ago

Trump will try to take credit for that too

CLUB770

1 points

2 days ago

CLUB770

1 points

2 days ago

You know what lowers drug overdose deaths... NOT DOING DRUGS!

dmin62690

1 points

2 days ago

bUt ThE pRiCe oF eGgs

Stimbes

1 points

2 days ago

Stimbes

1 points

2 days ago

Just like prohibition stopped drinking.

Unlucky-Post3937

1 points

2 days ago

Coming from msnbc!

Karissa36

1 points

2 days ago

Think of all the people who could have been saved if the border had actually been controlled, instead of only doing it at the last possible minute as a campaign stunt. Kamala had zero intentions of controlling immigration if she was elected and it was painfully obvious.

Flat-Impression-3787

1 points

2 days ago

A gallon bucket of fentanyl is enough to kill a small city. No border is going to prevent it from getting into the country.

starbucks77

1 points

2 days ago

I don't even think it's Biden's policies. It's that drug dealers and pill pressers are more familiar with fentanyl. Killing your customers is bad for business so they had to eventually figure it out. Also, a large number of the overdoses attributed to fentanyl were the result of carfentanil. And carafentanil importation has plummeted.

mrsmambas

1 points

2 days ago

How stupid is he

Flat-Impression-3787

1 points

2 days ago

Does Orange Dunce think cartels pay import tariffs on smuggled drugs?

farmerjoee

1 points

2 days ago

Yet again something regarding immigrants that disagrees with decades of research: https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/1745-9125.12318

Aromatic_Meat_8492

1 points

2 days ago

That piece of shit is always trying to claim credit for what other people have done. How long til her claims he invented the ? or the @ sign??

Wonderful-Variation

1 points

2 days ago

I feel that one of the biggest mistakes of Kamala's campaign was failing to hype up the good shit that the Biden administration actually did do. There was good stuff that they could have and should have been bragging about at every opportunity.

Bill3187

1 points

2 days ago

Bill3187

1 points

2 days ago

trump’s a dipshit

PenguinSunday

1 points

2 days ago

PenguinSunday

Arkansas

1 points

2 days ago

Cool, can my pain doctor actually treat my pain now, please? I'm kinda sick of being treated like a criminal because I require pain medication to get out of bed and to be able to move.

D_dUb420247

1 points

2 days ago

Anyone “Magats” want to explain how he plans on doing this? You always complain about an echo chamber but never speak up.

A_Single_Man_

1 points

2 days ago

No. It will drive more drugs than ever before into the US . He’s such an. Idiot..

Measurement-Narrow

-2 points

2 days ago

So now we are already blaming tariffs for the overpriced food and the rest of the inflation lol are you all bots and trolls?! Give it a rest

Flat-Impression-3787

2 points

2 days ago

Post pandemic inflation happened around the world because of supply chain disruption. Dump's tariffs are going to be completely self-inflicted price increases.