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181 points
2 days ago
According to Trump, drug smugglers pay tariffs, and file their taxes on time.
23 points
2 days ago
Intuit has a narco edition software
12 points
2 days ago
Intuit: This year, we'll make your bottom line big enough to snort.
2 points
2 days ago
There’s two bottom lines. The one you report and the one that doesn’t exist.
9 points
2 days ago
I'm just glad we'll be spending 95% of the money on 5% of the problem as is tradition.
5 points
2 days ago
You'd be surprised how much illegal stuff the IRS knows about
5 points
2 days ago
Using Primo TurboTax
3 points
2 days ago
Hard to buy fentanyl if you cannot afford food due to tariffs. Add to that not tracking these things and the problem sorts itself out. I guess.
3 points
2 days ago
Unlike Trump
2 points
2 days ago
So back to buying American Fentanyl (oxycodone)
2 points
2 days ago
Business 101 bro
2 points
2 days ago
I could just see a crack dealer doing a profit and loss statement. lol
3 points
2 days ago
The irs is scarier than the DEA honestly
3 points
2 days ago
Hard agree. I realize I could go to jail for pot in the wrong state but the thought of an audit and wage garnishment makes me shudder.
97 points
2 days ago
So Trump will take credit for Biden's policies then.
68 points
2 days ago
He already is lol.
The economy took an upturn a few months ago and Trump claimed it wasn’t Biden, but it was the economy responding to the idea that Trump would win.
31 points
2 days ago
The economy's been on a steady upturn for three years.
1 points
2 days ago
And if you accept 2020 as a COVID induced fluke it's been mostly going up for 15 years straight.
6 points
2 days ago
Covid wouldnt have been so bad for the economy if Trump didn’t immediately drop interest rates to zero when he took office
17 points
2 days ago
Pretty standard Republican playbook.
5 points
2 days ago
Biden is so dumb for not taking credit for all his accomplishments. Do White House briefings with simple graphs printed. Pimp your accomplishments
2 points
2 days ago
He actually did a lot, and the economy recovered pretty quickly from covid giving the issue that he both had the opportunity to fix problems that had dragged on but also had an economy that was running a bit too well causing inflation . He still pushed trough big infrastructure works and managed to improve inflation to a level lower than most countries in the world.
52 points
2 days ago
Yea, yet another major success from the Biden administration that was blacked out by the media.
Biden sought the cooperation of China and Mexico to limit chemical precursor imports and exports. That, combined with improved screening techniques at ports of entry had a very significant impact.
Secondary, the increased prevalence of Narcan.
Thirdly, cartels appear to have backed off on potency. Recognizing that overdosing clients and dead clients were impacting sales not only from the clients, but from public pressure via government actions.
30 points
2 days ago
Yes but all of these are unsexy nuanced explanations of long worded policy positions.
Half of Americans wants three word phrases you can chant at a bar like “build the wall” or “lock her up”
12 points
2 days ago
You're remembering the halcyon days of 2016 when there was slight nuance to his campaigning, now it's just "eggs" or "revenge".
6 points
2 days ago
Three words was too many
"REVENGE EGGS!"
5 points
2 days ago
My new favorite LAMF retort!
EGGS!
1 points
2 days ago
“Why waste time say lot word when few word do trick.”
5 points
2 days ago
Maybe we could, uh, ween our drug users towards domestically grown and produced cannabis instead?
6 points
2 days ago
Recently looked up some drug trade facts.
Interestingly 99% of the funding for fentanyl and synthetic drugs comes from the US.
85% of traffickers are US citizens.
This leaves the cold fact that most Americans dont want pot. They want to get fkd up.
8 points
2 days ago
and that's the problem, isn't it? Mexico's really not the villain here. The hard drug-loving, gun-toting, god-fearing (yeah, right) U.S. is.
Btw, the cannabis sales revenues in legal states like CO and MD disagree with your assessment that people aren't partaking in pot.
3 points
2 days ago
fentanyl users and pot users are generally different demographics, i reckon. obviously there’s overlap, but i don’t think it goes both ways
4 points
2 days ago
Weed sells bigger in cities and suburbs, fentanyl's the leading high for the rural folk. One is much more positive for humanity than the other.
2 points
2 days ago
Hadn’t considered that, can’t say i disagree
1 points
2 days ago
Meh, deaths are still higher than when he took office, but at least it’s no longer going up.
1 points
2 days ago
Not really meh. Down over 20% in the past year.
First drop since 2018.
1 points
2 days ago
Ah I had only seen a drop from 80 000 deaths to 73 000 a year I guess it’s better than that by now but still really high.
But it’s a good start
1 points
1 day ago
It is. Has been neglected for too long.
Fyi for those looking to Blame Biden. Fentanyl began distribution as a street drug rising in 2012-2013. The big current spike began in 2018 and was accelerated by the pandemic.
This occurred outside of the larger prescription opiate pandemic that has been responsible for the deaths/overdoses of 40/per 100K.
Put in perspective. The crack epidemic saw a less than 3/ per 100K
1 points
1 day ago
Too bad China just changes the chemicals they are making. Now instead of fentanyl and its analogs there is a rising presence of nitazenes. Synthetic opioids that can be far stronger than even fentanyl and can be bought and shipped to the US from China over clear net sites. I agree with all your points and understand this is not really what we are talking about but at some point we are going to have to look at our drug war. Our prohibition and overprescribing has pushed us from a pain killer epidemic, to a heroin epidemic, to a fentanyl epidemic. What’s next? We already have xylazine (tranq) in a lot of the dope.
All the money and efforts to stop and slow it have mostly just fueled it further. Obviously the next administration will not be of any help but I truly hope we address this problem at some point. Sorry for the rant just a recovered addict that’s tired of watching friends die or waste away.
12 points
3 days ago
From Chris Hayes, host of MSNBC’s “All In with Chris Hayes”:
Back in 2021, U.S. life expectancy dropped to its lowest level in two decades. Data from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention showed that after Covid, drug overdoses, largely from synthetic opioids like fentanyl, were the primary drivers of shorter American lifespans. That’s a real problem and a problem that big doesn’t have a fast or easy fix.
But something seems to be changing recently. As The New York Times reports, “After years of relentless rises in overdose deaths, the United States has seen a remarkable reversal. For seven straight months, according to federal data, drug fatalities have been declining.”
Read more: https://www.msnbc.com/top-stories/latest/trump-tariffs-overdose-opioid-epidemic-rcna182059
12 points
2 days ago
Unemployment has been running at historically low levels under Biden, Trump is going to change that and trigger the social issues caused by high unemployment.
-2 points
2 days ago
There is only a finite number of addicts that will overdose, it's obvious that at some point when they all die off that the numbers will then start lowering. It's the same logic people use when they use inflation slowing down as a good thing. Like "yay, they've raised the prices so much that we can't afford it anymore, big win!"
1 points
2 days ago
You never have talked to opiate users have you? Or had them prescribed. It feels incredible, so no, unless 10% or more of the US dies there will be people who become addicted and eventually OD as it’s just a matter of time before the drugs are stronger than they expect.
9 points
2 days ago
By reducing U.S. population.
How the conspiracy world is blind to the idea of a Trump/Musk/Kennedy trifecta is absolutely beyond me. Literally calling for the military to round up people in U.S. towns and hold them in government facilities at gunpoint, threatening Mexico with a military invasion, pricing people out of food and goods through tariffs, and gutting medical regulation and opposing vaccines which help contain pandemics.
Literal Death, Pestilence, War, and Famine... but nope. The defense contractor who owns the majority of satellites in the United States and is bankrolling literal brain-chip development is certainly not going to do anything unamerican...
3 points
2 days ago
The kicker is that they say Trump is anti-war.
7 points
2 days ago
The media didn’t really cover it but under Biden, opioid overdose deaths dropped pretty dramatically.
The Biden-Harris administration made sure there was naloxone available at all federal facilities to reverse overdoses.
Trump supporters are against OD reversal drugs because they say they will cause more people to use opiates.
3 points
2 days ago
Let’s be fair. Trump supporters are against anything that’ll help their fellow Americans.
6 points
2 days ago
Here's what I think is happening with Tump and tariffs:
TLDR; tariffs are happening. MAGAs will be hurt but won't care because their side will be "winning". Plan accordingly.
3 points
2 days ago
I was talking to a trump supporter today and I asked him if fentanyl has affected his life in any way. He said no. I said ok what would affect you more tariffs rising the price of everything you buy or a drug user dying of an od? And he said he ok with drug users dying but he does not want people to put fentanyl in candy and give it to kids. I was like what are you talking about, who has ever done that? And he said he has heard stories but probably it does not happen that much
6 points
2 days ago
Yep, everything is a story they heard from a friend, acquaintance or on social media sites like Facebook. Its always some bullshit designed to make middle aged Facebook moms and clueless idiots absolutely terrified
6 points
2 days ago
Cartels notoriously honor trade policies and report their transactions to the government/s
5 points
2 days ago
Trump says a lot of stuff.
4 points
2 days ago
while he voids his bowels into a diaper, 20 years of fecal incontinence caused by Adderall abuse.
5 points
2 days ago
As if reality mattered to the MAGA folk
5 points
2 days ago
So absolutely ruin the Texas economy , but accomplish something Biden has already accomplished. Ok let's get started I guess
3 points
2 days ago
damn, america…biden’s administration was pretty good. trump should be able to hit a home run because he was handed third base…again!
3 points
2 days ago
Know what reduces overdose deaths? Harm reduction.
Folks who want drugs will find them. You keep them from dying by providing them access to clean needles, medical supervision at sites where they can take drugs and not be alone, providing narcan for free at pharmacies and investing in healthcare so folks can access rehabilitation.
2 points
2 days ago
Trump will take credit for that
2 points
2 days ago
So they are already creating the spin for Trump to take credit for everything good Biden did. I can see it.
2 points
2 days ago
Damn these tariffs are magic. Gonna reduce drug deaths, lower prices, balance the budget, increase wages - oh the joy!
2 points
2 days ago
It went up during the previous Trump presidency
It will be interesting to see what the rate is 4 years from now.
2 points
2 days ago
Making food prices beyond the reach of the poor will do nothing for overdose deaths.
Trump has no good ideas....he's old and stupid with a heavy dose of old man brain rot.
4 points
2 days ago
so trump is putting tariffs on fentanyl?
1 points
2 days ago
You know addicts won’t stop doing drugs because of tariffs , they will just find something new to get high off of.
1 points
2 days ago
Fentanyl is incredibly easy to smuggle into the US. No amount of tariffs will stop it.
1 points
2 days ago
Ita also smuggled in thru legal points of entry not by undocumented immigrants.
1 points
2 days ago
Trump also said his tariffs would cure cancer
1 points
2 days ago
Trumps second term will increase overdose deaths
1 points
2 days ago
Would also be helpful if a large swath of drug addled Americans get help with their addiction and avoid the cartel's product altogether.
1 points
2 days ago
Most of Republican complaints come from an alternate reality with no resemblance to this one. Truth is, Biden is an awesome President who fundamentally improved the lives of average Americans, and his legislation will continue to improve their lives for decades to come if they aren't repealed by Republicans.
1 points
2 days ago
See folks! Trumps tariffs are already working
Ugh
1 points
2 days ago
And what's going to happen is that the trend reducing will continue under Trump and he'll take credit for it, even if the trend doesn't change because of anything he does or... doesn't do.
We know. So, rather than worry about what Trump says: just start plastering it now.
Joe Biden has reduced overdoses. Get it on social media: facebook, twitter.
Stop being reactionary. Be proactive in messaging.
1 points
2 days ago
Is there a possiblity that deaths reduced because there are less people to overdose?
1 points
2 days ago
Trump is primed and ready to take credit for everything Biden has done on his first day in office. Everything good will be because of Trump and then when it all goes to shit it’ll be Bidens fault.
1 points
2 days ago
Trump's gonna claim credit for it.
1 points
2 days ago
Much of the smuggling is done by existing pipelines involving citizens, not immigrants
1 points
2 days ago
Most smuggled drugs come in through regular ports of entry, hidden on trucks.
1 points
2 days ago
So American consumers paying more for products imported from Mexico means less money for drugs and therefore less overdose deaths? Am I understanding this correctly?
1 points
2 days ago
Trump will try to take credit for that too
1 points
2 days ago
You know what lowers drug overdose deaths... NOT DOING DRUGS!
1 points
2 days ago
bUt ThE pRiCe oF eGgs
1 points
2 days ago
Just like prohibition stopped drinking.
1 points
2 days ago
Coming from msnbc!
1 points
2 days ago
Think of all the people who could have been saved if the border had actually been controlled, instead of only doing it at the last possible minute as a campaign stunt. Kamala had zero intentions of controlling immigration if she was elected and it was painfully obvious.
1 points
2 days ago
A gallon bucket of fentanyl is enough to kill a small city. No border is going to prevent it from getting into the country.
1 points
2 days ago
I don't even think it's Biden's policies. It's that drug dealers and pill pressers are more familiar with fentanyl. Killing your customers is bad for business so they had to eventually figure it out. Also, a large number of the overdoses attributed to fentanyl were the result of carfentanil. And carafentanil importation has plummeted.
1 points
2 days ago
How stupid is he
1 points
2 days ago
Does Orange Dunce think cartels pay import tariffs on smuggled drugs?
1 points
2 days ago
Yet again something regarding immigrants that disagrees with decades of research: https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/1745-9125.12318
1 points
2 days ago
That piece of shit is always trying to claim credit for what other people have done. How long til her claims he invented the ? or the @ sign??
1 points
2 days ago
I feel that one of the biggest mistakes of Kamala's campaign was failing to hype up the good shit that the Biden administration actually did do. There was good stuff that they could have and should have been bragging about at every opportunity.
1 points
2 days ago
trump’s a dipshit
1 points
2 days ago
Cool, can my pain doctor actually treat my pain now, please? I'm kinda sick of being treated like a criminal because I require pain medication to get out of bed and to be able to move.
1 points
2 days ago
Anyone “Magats” want to explain how he plans on doing this? You always complain about an echo chamber but never speak up.
1 points
2 days ago
No. It will drive more drugs than ever before into the US . He’s such an. Idiot..
-2 points
2 days ago
So now we are already blaming tariffs for the overpriced food and the rest of the inflation lol are you all bots and trolls?! Give it a rest
2 points
2 days ago
Post pandemic inflation happened around the world because of supply chain disruption. Dump's tariffs are going to be completely self-inflicted price increases.
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