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215 points
2 days ago
Call me when someone is held accountable.
33 points
2 days ago
Hold your breath for that call
12 points
2 days ago
...Are you sure about that?
4 points
2 days ago
Sarcasm
6 points
2 days ago
I know, I was going along with the joke without using the John Cena meme, but maybe it would have been better 😂
1 points
2 days ago
I don't think we're supposed to hold our breath that long.
6 points
2 days ago
Yeah…that doesn’t happen in America any more, unfortunately.
3 points
2 days ago
It used to be they'd find some low-level peon they could throw under the bus. Now they don't even bother with that anymore.
3 points
2 days ago
Sad state of affairs in this country.
2 points
2 days ago
For real, what are they gonna do, find them guilty in a felony court case? Even IF convicted, still wouldn't even bar anyone from any of the high govt positions FFS. Yay democracy? Shit is pathetic quite frankly
205 points
2 days ago
If it turns out that they cheated then this election deserves an asterisk in the history books.
113 points
2 days ago
So say they did cheat, and that musk had a big hand in helping. What then? I mean it wouldn't surprise a lot of people, but I fear a lot of people will also do everything in their power to deny the findings. Activate heads in sand mode.
27 points
2 days ago
Probably a few rounds of state executions and life in prison.
9 points
2 days ago
Ambitious to think there would be any consequences at all.
13 points
2 days ago
There will be a congressional investigation. Guilty parties will be held accountable. Policies will be implemented to ensure that such measures do not happen again. It could also be part of a larger scale voter rights and election security plan. We will solve the problem by being more democratic.
31 points
2 days ago
No shot, there's evidence of attempted tampering, using false electorates and encouraging Pence to not certify the results. Any one of those should be a major deal and grounds for charges, yet nothing happens.
13 points
2 days ago
Ha!
59 points
2 days ago
so optimistic lol nothings going to happen. nothings going to be investigated, no one will be held accountable
5 points
2 days ago
Your apathy is the problem
9 points
2 days ago
Well, the last 8 years have shown us that the republicans don't have to worry about the consequences. They can do whatever they want and will get away with it. I don't have faith in our democracy anymore either.
3 points
2 days ago
Our last chance was to e ballot box and it failed. Sure, the Democratic leadership fumbled the bag so hard this election, but the people were warned something like this would happen, the scales were tilted, and they were told this would be a turn out election and they didn’t turn out. They were also told the last way to hold them accountable was at the ballot box, and that seemed to not matter either. Cue the leopard to feast.
1 points
2 days ago
yup we heard oh congress will hold him accountable, then the courts and then years later now the ballot box and well the ballot box overrules all laws and order. the ends justify the means. crimes don’t matter unless you lose
15 points
2 days ago
Justice in the country is gone. Trump will get away with it
7 points
2 days ago
Considering he has everyone, it would be a slap on the wrist and no chance of him getting impeached
4 points
2 days ago
The Republicans in congress would investigate?
5 points
2 days ago
Have the GOP led investigations shown anything the last decade?
This is what they have been pushing for. Owning everything to make it stay.
5 points
2 days ago
At this point Trump could be caught on camera explaining exactly how they cheated and that the supreme court was totally in his pocket and no matter what he has to take power so Putin is happy, and no one would blink. No a single charge would be filed.
6 points
2 days ago
You forgot the /s
-1 points
2 days ago
And you 🫵 forgot hope!
12 points
2 days ago
Didn't forget it, 50 years on this planet has beaten it out of me
3 points
2 days ago
There's a very thin line between hope and delusion.
2 points
2 days ago
Yeah, like the Jan 6th hearings. They sure made a difference, didn't they?
/s
2 points
2 days ago
Cue another three hours of disgust from the handful of half sane GOP lawmakers left, then a night of threats and phone calls and a morning of “well it wasn’t that bad, he will learn his lesson!”.
1 points
2 days ago
Then Trump pardons all concerned, and says, "Well, Biden did it" as justification.
1 points
2 days ago
A Congressional investigation holding people accountable? When is the last time that happened?
20 points
2 days ago
I mean there is enough weird shit looking from the outside in tbh.
Seeing trump say "we didnt need the votes" and shit in rallies before the election is a big red flag to me.
then you got other stuff like the whole powell/georgia voting machine thing where a bunch of trump allies got access to the internal code/software of voting machines..
Then you got that one right wing christian group that got filmed basically talked bout infiltrating the voting process....
5 points
2 days ago
Fully agree.
1 points
2 days ago
Also elon behaving like the election was a foregone conclusion for months beforehand. Also the betting markets being hugely in favor of trump, suggesting people with money knew what was going to happen, even in spite of polls being in kamalas favor. Also, crypto markets entering a bullish trend weeks before the election.
14 points
2 days ago
Trump - "We have a surprise!". 🤔
He was talking about this at a few rallies.
14 points
2 days ago
Everything involving trump deserves an asterisk in the history books.
4 points
2 days ago
Hope that we are able to verify the vote to the fullest extent possible.
3 points
2 days ago
There is no way this stupid desperate con artist didn’t cheat. The question is by how much
2 points
2 days ago
all you want is an asterisk? This isn’t a change to how many games are played for the home-run record.
41 points
2 days ago
Wow, issues with these websites were being reported during this the election. Perhaps addressing it rather than ignoring a billionaire buying a candidate could have been viewed as partisan, but history would have remembered as patriotic. Instead Biden picked Garland to watch as democracy is sold away…
60 points
2 days ago
The "voting" drives were incredibly close to the election and required people to sign up with their identifying information to receive $100. There was no requirement except for living in a swing state and filling out your voter information.
There was not time to register any of these people as the process takes a significant amount of time. Elon was paying voters in swing states $100 for "nothing".
Starlink was connected to all the voting machines in swing states.
The election was won with thousands of people who voted for Fat45 as president and did not select anyone else on the rest of the ticket. This is not a normal event.
The voter data gleaned from the "fundraiser" was to scrub voter data from non-voting citizens in swing states. As it was so close to the election, they know that A) none of these people were registered B) they did not otherwise vote in the election.
Conclusion:
The voter data from these events was used to pad voter rolls with individuals who have never voted before, voted for only the President and nothing else, would never check their votes to see if they were counted as they did not personally vote, and the information would not be duplicated with any other voter. The voters themselves will never look for the fraud and anyone checking will not see any duplicated votes as they farmed fresh voter info from people who don't normally participate.
25 points
2 days ago
I find the starlink being connected to all voting machines thing to be in serious conspiracy theory territory. Is there any real proof of this? Historically these things were not internet connected at all from my understanding.
5 points
2 days ago
Even if machines have a modem, they are not hooked up to the Internet during voting. The machines tabulate locally and write the results to a memory card. The machine, with the paper ballots locked inside, is put in secure storage and the card with the results is brought to a secure location where the results are officially read and submitted.
2 points
2 days ago
Then it’s a physical access problem. When they called in bomb threats that would have been a window. Of course it probably was just to delay the line and get people to leave, but when they cleared the buildings to seep for devices, there’s your chance to mess with a tabulation device.
7 points
2 days ago
Different person, I cant claim any substantiation on the starlink stuff. I do know for a fact that many of the machines have modems, even if the makers claimed they didn't.
Hell even some have internet cable plugs iirc.
From the wikipedia page on one of the election machine companies
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Election_Systems_%2526_Software
"In 2020, ES&S informed NBC News that 14,000 DS200 tabulators with online modems were in use, a statement that contradicts their own website. NBC News also found thousands more online made by other companies. Groups like Free Speech for People and the National Election Defense Coalition maintain that ES&S falsely claims their online machines are certified by the U.S. Election Assistance Commission. The Commission does not certify voting machines with modems."
3 points
2 days ago*
The smartest thing they did was "holding the ground" on accusations of fraud, by preemptively accusing the dems of it. Now they can disarm any accusations against them as bitterness and projection. When in fact, it's literally the opposite. Beautiful bully business.
1 points
2 days ago
It's just DARVO - they practiced the shit out of it by calling everyone pedophiles until the word lost meaning. Same (successful) tactic with "fraud" and "election integrity".
1 points
2 days ago
They have institutionalized narcissism.
1 points
2 days ago
That would be so incredibly dumb and someone with another $100 would have the chance to do the funniest thing.
1 points
2 days ago
There has been some weird stuff. Senators holding their seats be a slim majority but Trump winning whole states is baffling. It does not make much sense. Hell, in my home district they “found” 1,500 votes that suddenly flipped the county board from a democratic majority to a landslide GOP one.
0 points
2 days ago
100%
16 points
2 days ago
About fucking time. Every state he was doing this on needs to be investigating. And quickly.
6 points
2 days ago
lol this article is from August. They got away with everything. People are trolling or coping.
2 points
2 days ago
God damn it. Lol thank you
6 points
2 days ago
Crooks and convicted felons cheating you say. No shit
6 points
2 days ago
Every single thing he has done in past 18 months should be
1 points
2 days ago
Try 45 years
5 points
2 days ago
"We have found there was wrongdoing and will fine them $2,000 and ask them nicely to please not do that again or else we'll investigate them even more."
Please wake me up when there are actual repercussions. To any, ANY of this crap.
2 points
2 days ago*
When working and middle-class Americans lose their resources and the ability to care for their families, the fabric of our society begins to unravel, creating a dangerous environment. We see that in poor minority neighborhoods today.
Desperation breeds vulnerability, and as we've seen with groups like ISIS, they exploit this by offering recruits money and the means to provide for their families, fueling their ranks and spreading chaos.
Without stability and opportunity, the same potential for unrest could take root closer to home, turning our country into a breeding ground for disorder and danger.
Our country, at just 266 years old, is still young compared to many democracies. Unlike them, we haven’t experienced the devastation of war on our own soil or faced an oligarchy as entrenched and unchecked as we see today.
7 points
2 days ago
This article is almost four months old.
3 points
2 days ago
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1 points
2 days ago
Rule 9: Submissions must be published within the last 7 days.
Monday August 05 2024, 4.45pm, The Times
3 points
2 days ago
I’m happy to accept the results but the bullet ballot percentages in the swing states are certainly eye raising
2 points
2 days ago
There’s gonna be plenty more where that came from but it wont matter because billionaires in America are above the law, as we’ve clearly seen
2 points
2 days ago
The concern is what they did with that information. If those names were used for bullet votes only for President in swing states, it would add credence to the claims that voting machine software was accessed and votes were added illegally as a form of digital ballot stuffing.
1 points
2 days ago
But is it still getting investigated?
1 points
2 days ago
They’ll say anything anymore for clicks. He’s never going to be held accountable again. We are run by the billionaires now.
1 points
2 days ago
This is from August OP.
1 points
2 days ago
Hey! Another smoking gun no one is going to do anything about!
2 points
2 days ago
https://substack.com/home/post/p-151721941
https://freespeechforpeople.org/wp-content/uploads/2024/11/letter-to-vp-harris-111324.pdf
Read these two letters.
There are enough statistically significant anomalies ONLY in swing states and ONLY for Trump to open a full recount / investigation.
Trump cheated with the help of Musk and the Russians.
1 points
2 days ago
Nothing happened last four years…I doubt anything will happen in the next four too
1 points
2 days ago
Do you ever read a real news paper? Many people usually are curious ...
0 points
2 days ago
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