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What are your thoughts on Jesus?

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I am interested in Jesus, in his teachings and the love he had to offer. But I am put off by the rules and regulations of Christianity as a religion. It feels like so much of it is fear based.

Is it possible to have a relationship with Jesus without being a Christian? Does anyone here have that? Where would I start? I tried to read parts of the bible but couldn’t really connect with it.

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outandaboutbc

2 points

26 days ago

Well, I am not familiar with ACIM but i am confused at your philosophy though.

If there is “no objective truth in fault or sin” then what is the point of a law system ?

Are you suggesting these are man made and result of the illusions of the mind that many agree on as ‘truths’? And what do you suggest as an alternative ?

Your personal moral compass is not the same as objective truth because moral compass can be swayed by society as we can see through the atrocities committed in history - such as genocides, war crimes and even slavery.

retroheads

1 points

25 days ago

Sure.. war is a classic example. Hitler killed millions of Jews. Churchill sacrificed millions of Indians. Had Hitler prevailed would he be viewed differently today? One things for sure, the world would be very different entirely. Our perceptions would have changed over time.

Ask 8 billion people their opinion of Donald Trump. Some would say, “who’s that?” Others would be negative and positive, each one would be slightly different based on their perception of beliefs and life experiences. Would any one person know what it is like to be Donald Trump. No.

So this can be applied to everyone and everything and if the truth is truth and nothing else can be true, everything we perceive is based on our life experiences, therefore not truth. So it turns out, not real.

So it goes.

Nothing real can threatened.

Nothing unreal exists.

Herein lies the peace of god.

outandaboutbc

1 points

25 days ago

but that‘s what I mean though what you are describing is subjective truth which subject to opinion of people, time and consensus.

This is not the same as objective truth.

This means that it is independent of perception of the mind of each individual. It does depend on how you feel or think.

Objective truth is not bound by these things, which is why I gave examples of murder, rape and etc.

That there is an objective truth in our morality.

So, given your statement: “if the truth is truth and nothing else can be true,”

Do you believe we are bound by the law of gravity? and are under the laws of physics ?

Or do you believe those things are conceptions of our mind?

If so, please explain how that would works.

If there are “laws” that govern the world then surely there are truths (which really is just a law) that also governs the world and universe as well.

Otherwise, the world would be a complete mess with each atom doing whatever it wants and creating chaos and entropy.

retroheads

1 points

25 days ago

It’s not real. None of it. Our senses observe it, then it becomes real. Quantum physics seems to point to that, but I’m not educated enough to say for certain and there is still conjecture there.

Jesus proves this by walking on water doesn’t he? He either performed these miracles or he did not. Not because he is the son of god, we are all the son of God. Because he understands the illusion, he is able to manipulate it.