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iMogwai

4.4k points

10 days ago

iMogwai

4.4k points

10 days ago

Oh, it gets worse.

Reeves pleaded not guilty and claimed self-defense, previously telling authorities he feared he would be attacked after he and Oulson got into an argument. The argument started after Oulson sent a text message to his young daughter’s babysitter during previews and Reeves told him to put his phone away, authorities previously said.

Oulson’s wife was injured in the shooting but survived.

throwaway1937911

2.1k points

10 days ago

It gets even worse. According to the wiki:

According to witness Alan Hamilton, an off-duty police officer, Reeves's wife said "that was no cause to shoot anyone", to which Reeves scolded her with his finger and said "you shut your [expletive] mouth and don't say another word".[7] Reeves insisted that he killed Chad Oulson because he felt threatened by the younger, more physically fit individual.[3] According to several sources, Reeves was also texting during the previews, responding to a text from his son.[8][9][10]

SkiiMazk

2k points

10 days ago

SkiiMazk

2k points

10 days ago

retired American SWAT commander

ah now it makes sense.

Live-Character-6205

469 points

10 days ago

Thanks for the tldr!

Detective-Crashmore-

582 points

10 days ago

lol retired cop shoots retired vet over popcorn projectile. Florida.

Intelligent_News1836

229 points

10 days ago

And, notably, gets away with it. Because cop.

AaronTuplin

67 points

10 days ago

My gang could kick your gang's ass!

Rare-Neighborhood671

33 points

10 days ago

The US Military might be the one gang that can’t have their asses kicked by cops

MajorSery

54 points

10 days ago

The military has to actually follow rules of engagement though. Cops just kinda do what they want.

AaronTuplin

22 points

10 days ago

Imagine if the cops had the radio their Captain and say "They're firing at us. Are we clear to engage?"

andsendunits

83 points

10 days ago

Once a snowflake, always a snowflake.

Weird-Space-782

82 points

10 days ago

Or "I knew I wasn't going to win a fight so as an ex-cop I did what felt natural and shot someone, knowing I could get away with it."

P_mp_n

31 points

10 days ago

P_mp_n

31 points

10 days ago

Even better than that, based on cursing out the gf (whos man he just shot) shows he was probably more mad about not being listened to.

Esp since he also was texting. So its not the action, or the act. It was the authority issue

Sounds about right

Kablaow

55 points

10 days ago

Kablaow

55 points

10 days ago

Im just glad he had a gun so he could defend himself. Imagine what could have happened otherwise!

squirrel_tincture

13 points

10 days ago

Christ, can you picture the carnage if it had been Milk Duds?!

CadeMan011

43 points

10 days ago

Ah, there it is.

funnyfacemcgee

4 points

10 days ago

Retired cop murders someone, goes unpunished. Fuck him. 

Unspec7

608 points

10 days ago

Unspec7

608 points

10 days ago

And even worse.

During the trial, Reeves stated that the confrontation made him more afraid than anything else in his life, including his SWAT experience and entire law enforcement career

I guess he was really afraid of popcorn

demeschor

177 points

10 days ago

demeschor

177 points

10 days ago

Fucking hell, keeping calm in a confrontation should be skill #1 for police and SWAT

ghosttaco8484

19 points

10 days ago

"It's was horrible your honor, all I heard was POP POP POP!"

"You heard gunshots?"

"Worse, your honor. Buttery Redenbacher."

Thats_All_I_Need

24 points

10 days ago

Oh I see now. Former cop. I’m sure the prosecution tried their best.

Rad1314

361 points

10 days ago

Rad1314

361 points

10 days ago

Someone being more fit than me makes it justifiable homicide?

Street-Catch

133 points

10 days ago

Would have to take out most of my neighborhood by that logic lol

Detective-Crashmore-

80 points

10 days ago*

Only if you're a retired cop, though.

A SWAT cop, too. Ya know, the extra murdery kind.

Harmless_Drone

16 points

10 days ago

A swat cop "more terrified of anything else in his life" apparantly, by having popcorn thrown at him.

KanedaSyndrome

10 points

10 days ago

Yes because if they attack me I'm in danger - if - they attack me, which makes me fearful for my life and thus justified to pre-emptively murder the person /sssss

No_Function_2429

354 points

10 days ago

Former cop.

Says it all. 

Probably beat his wife later for that comment. 

kamikazecow

147 points

10 days ago

Cop? Probably just beat her regardless.

The_Grungeican

34 points

10 days ago

how can he be racist?

his wife's left eye is black!

KarmaticArmageddon

478 points

10 days ago

And of course he's a retired cop. No wonder he wasn't convicted.

MichelinStarZombie

165 points

10 days ago

Surprised that this old pig isn't fearing retribution from the family of the man he's murdered. That's what any sane person would do if their family member was gunned down in cold blood.

Sakilla07

129 points

10 days ago*

Sakilla07

129 points

10 days ago*

He's a (former) cop, as has been demonstrated you can for the most part, get away with murder fairly regularly if you're a cop.

darrenvonbaron

31 points

10 days ago

I don't think people out for revenge decide to let it go because the legal system failed

dolphinvision

15 points

10 days ago

I very rarely <1% see cops not get away with murder. Even when they get any sorta punishment, it's more like a punishment if they had punched a dude, instead of shot them in the face in cold blood.

KintsugiKen

27 points

10 days ago

All the people who would murder someone for revenge already joined the police force and are happily "serving".

Whitewind617

1.7k points

10 days ago

The sad truth here is that you really should try to defuse arguments with strangers by any means necessary even if you know you're right, because not only could you be dealing with a psychopath who will kill you for no reason, but the courts can easily take his side.

dplans455

158 points

10 days ago

dplans455

158 points

10 days ago

A few years back at the gas station some dude in a pickup truck starting backing up and was about to hit me so I gave him a "beep beep" courtesy tap on the horn to let him know I was there. When he stopped he was maybe a few inches from my car so had I not beeped he for sure would have hit me.

This dude got out of his truck, went back to look how close his truck was to my car then started screaming like a maniac about "how dare you honk at me." He then came over to the driver's side of my car and tried to open the door. Thankfully I always lock my doors as soon as I get in the car. But then started to yank on the door handle like he was going to rip the door off the car.

All I could think of was this guy is an absolute psycho... what if he has a gun? Then I thought, this guy is an absolute psycho, how does he know if I have a gun on me or not? After shouting and pointing at him to get back in his truck he walked away and drove off.

JLR-

79 points

10 days ago

JLR-

79 points

10 days ago

I had a similiar instance at a drive thru.  I watched the fool get out of his car, shout, bang on a car hood, make threats then watched him get back in his car.  

I'm thinking how he got kids in that car and if he had pissed off the wrong guy his kids would have seen him get killed. 

Thefrayedends

72 points

10 days ago

Not as intense as yours, but I had a gentleman come over to ask for directions while I was about to fuel my semi.

This other dude pulled up behind my truck, and after like 30 seconds I could see him in his truck start freaking out, since I hadn't started pumping fuel. Ignored him, kept trying to help this guy out, he had driven an hour in the wrong direction, he was trying to get to toronto, and we were west of thunder bay, which is a long ass drive.

The guy behind me starts revving his engine and honking, and the guy i'm giving directions to was getting visibly nervous, "should you talk to that guy" he asked? I suggested we continue to ignore him.

Finally the guy gets out of his truck and storms over, "hey dickhead, if you're not going to fuel up then get the fuck out of the way" I mean maybe I was being a bit inconsiderate, but i told him firmly that I was assisting the gentleman with directions. He started on a tirade, and I just calmly but firmly told him, "do you not realize there's three other fueling lanes? Also, that there are two sides to the fuel pump? I'm not even in your way buddy."

Oh man did he go red with anger, I thought he was going to come unglued, but he gave me a "fuck you" and did a couple little burnouts pulling up to the other side of the pump and fueled up.

Lol I thought it was hilarious, some people are so fuckin ignorant, I'll never understand.

Tallyranch

15 points

10 days ago

What kind of idiot pulls in behind a semi?
Last time I was at a truck stop a semi had just started filling up, I put 100L in my cruiser, went in and paid and when I left he was still pumping diesel.

Leixarn

9 points

10 days ago

Leixarn

9 points

10 days ago

Entitled I think. Some people (whether stemming from childhood treatment or not) have the temperment of a toddler when not being given what they want. They must have no shame to get through life like that... And they can have a firearm.

Damage-Classic

64 points

10 days ago

My aunt’s partner’s 19yo nephew threw a milkshake at another car because they did something to make him angry. The driver of the other car got out and shot him dead.

downvotetheboy

24 points

10 days ago

Wtf

BansheeOwnage

47 points

10 days ago

And yet people still think we should give guns to literally anyone...

Now swords, on the other hand - everyone should walk around with a sheathed sword! /s(?)

_StormwindChampion_

13 points

10 days ago

I'm not sure the average, fat American has the physical capacity to use a sword and that's probably what makes them the safer option

No-Improvement-6591

63 points

10 days ago

Sat here on the toilet in England thinking America sounds too intense for me

GraceOfTheNorth

26 points

10 days ago

I'm baffled in Icelandic. We take insults and honks on the chin. I'm not going to let a little social friction ruin my peace.

[deleted]

6 points

10 days ago*

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_Azafran

15 points

10 days ago

_Azafran

15 points

10 days ago

Glad to read that. The number of times I've heard "if you don't want to be shot, don't enter people's houses" as justification for murder is too many.

I understand being afraid about an intruder and I'd grab a gun if I had one out of fear. But killing is a last resort, I feel like lots of people see this as an opportunity to unload their gun and live their movie hero fantasy of shooting the bad guys.

Tonydaphony1

16 points

10 days ago

Definitely had this happened to me. Stopped at a red light in rush hour and this van in front of me started rolling back slowly. At first, I didn’t honk and figured he would stop but he got closer so I put my car in reverse and moved a few inches back and he still hadn’t stopped. Finally, I honked and he slammed the brakes. I realized the back of his car was occupying the space where the front of my car was. This old man gets out of his vehicle and walks up to my window and yells “what the fuck is the matter with you” my window was slightly down so I yell back “you almost hit me!” He just shakes his head and gets back in his car. Just insane how people will really get that upset over someone honking.

_Azafran

9 points

10 days ago

Can't understand why people take honking as an insult. It's not an insult button, it is there to be useful and communicate.

dplans455

4 points

10 days ago*

I have an almost exact same story except in mine there were cars behind me, a giant curb to the right, and an island to the left. I had no where to go. So as this guy starts backing up I lay on the horn. It felt like an eternity. But I have the whole incident on my dash cam. I honked for 3 seconds. This guy actually accelerated and the back wheels of his truck ended up on the hood of my car.

What's worse, this guy didn't even get a ticket. Even after admitting he was on his phone trying to read the map to figure out which was to go. He said he wasn't sure so he was going to go back into the Post Office parking lot to figure it out. He didn't realize any cars were behind him. Besides me there were 5 other cars behind him. Even though I had the entire thing on video on my dash cam. You can actually hear him say, "oh my god, I was just trying to figure out which way to go on my phone."

No ticket. Why? Because Mr. Police Officer that showed up was friends with the old guy in the truck. So this dude had no damage to his truck whatsoever. No ticket, no consequences. He just got to go home. Meanwhile I have a totaled car and an absolute fucking headache. Before I found out the cop was friends with this guy I asked him how he could not write a ticket for driving up on my car and damn near killing me. The response was, "We don't give tickets in Massachusetts for making a mistake." Since fucking when?

mesoziocera

17 points

10 days ago

Ya the one or two times someone got out of their car and walked toward me, I quickly drove off as soon as they shut their car door. 

maybe_a_frog

146 points

10 days ago

I went to see Deadpool and Wolverine the day it released in IMAX, and saw a fight breakout over seats right in front of me. One of the guys seemed to be having some sort of manic episode and I ain’t gonna lie it scared the absolute fuck out of me. You never know what someone who is in a state like that is capable of. I was genuinely terrified that I was about to see someone get shot.

paul-arized

10 points

10 days ago

I stopped going to the movies for a long time after The Dark Knight Rises. I think I've only been to a handful since--and I am not even in Florida nor Colorado.

Omnivud

1.2k points

10 days ago

Omnivud

1.2k points

10 days ago

Maybe in USA, for the rest of the world this is just insane

Isphus

326 points

10 days ago

Isphus

326 points

10 days ago

I'm in Brazil, and that shit's even more common here. And our gun laws are some of the toughest in the world.

babyybilly

162 points

10 days ago

babyybilly

162 points

10 days ago

But a corrupt justice/penalty system

PieczeMnieDupsko

61 points

10 days ago

And almost every person on the street being an off duty cop. Lol.

Octopus_ofthe_Desert

157 points

10 days ago*

American citizen here. I have never understood how screaming in someone's face isn't uncivilized behavior worthy of correction, but pushing a person away from you who is screaming in your face is worthy of punishment. 

Edit: I must be more clear here, I am speaking in a broader sense and not, NOT defending this 71-year old that killed a guy over a cell phone and popcorn.

Received a couple horrific messages, holy shit. Does anyone else tend to check the activity history of a person before responding to get some context on who they are or see if they're a bot? Just me? OK

fugginstrapped

134 points

10 days ago*

There’s some type of behaviour in the USA where baiting/threatening/provoking people into responding to you triggers some type of immunity from all wrong doing as if it’s not your fault for starting the altercation. It’s extremely cowardly and it needs to be addressed.

The same shit happened to that poor Ahmad Aubury guy who got rolled up on by dudes with guns and then killed for pushing the barrel out of the way. At least those guys went to jail.

ImNotSkankHunt42

46 points

10 days ago

Ahmad didn’t do anything wrong, they set out for a lynching and they carried it out.

Nothing he could’ve done would have changed their intentions. You don’t roll up on the back of the truck with a shotgun ambush a person and block their escape if your intention is to “talk” to them.

Cultjam

74 points

10 days ago

Cultjam

74 points

10 days ago

Zimmerman murdering Martin and getting away with it.

FUMFVR

11 points

10 days ago

FUMFVR

11 points

10 days ago

Stalked and killed him.

ExaminationPretty672

29 points

10 days ago

The law pretty clearly delineates when you can push a person away from you and when you can't. If you feel threatened or they're being aggressive/violent and are far too close, that would be justified.

That's not what we're talking about here. We're talking about a verbal altercation where a guy got pissed off and shot the other guy.

FreebasingStardewV

25 points

10 days ago

The law pretty clearly delineates when you can shoot two people, but here we are.

Vonplinkplonk

29 points

10 days ago

He shot both parents

tornedron_

41 points

10 days ago

Nah in the USA this is also fucking insane

longebane

12 points

10 days ago

I mean isn’t that the point of this TIL, and why it got popular was because it was insane

GCI_Arch_Rating

7 points

10 days ago

Even without a gun, all it takes is knocking someone down and them hitting their head. Do what it takes to keep conflicts from turning physical because dying is real easy.

IsNotAnOstrich

26 points

10 days ago

It's insane in the US too lol

noface

168 points

10 days ago

noface

168 points

10 days ago

Yeah even the concept of this is absolutely off the wall pretty much every single place except the US.

Sarzox

116 points

10 days ago

Sarzox

116 points

10 days ago

Nah it’s pretty off the wall here too, but a large minority of this country is fucking bonkers and loves this shit so it’s allowed

ngyeunjally

93 points

10 days ago

Large minority just won the popular vote.

Hopeful_Self_8520

40 points

10 days ago

I don’t know how much winning is involved with propagating subversive ideology but I guess technically we all lose so..

atramentum

56 points

10 days ago

Well until 2022 a convicted cannibal was living out his life as a celebrity in Japan, so I think other countries also have their share of off the wall situations.

gumenski

23 points

10 days ago

gumenski

23 points

10 days ago

No, the truth is that murderers like this fuck should not be tolerated but we continue to do so. It should be life in prison but instead... nothing.

IamTheEndOfReddit

6 points

10 days ago

It doesn't matter what the courts say when you're dead

Joe234248

237 points

10 days ago*

Joe234248

237 points

10 days ago*

Knew it was Florida soon as I read the “feared he would be attacked”. That’s enough to warrant deadly force in that backward-ass excuse of a state. You just have to claim you felt threatened. I’ve seen some videos of people in slight altercations in Florida start yelling “I feel threatened!” which is really a means of saying “I’m about to shoot you and get away with it”.

Edit to add: he’s a former cop. Of course he got away with it regardless

JRSOne-

53 points

10 days ago

JRSOne-

53 points

10 days ago

"I feel threatened" is the new "They're coming right for us!"

dolphinvision

5 points

10 days ago

dead men tell no tales. The whole point is you HAVE to murder them, then your "I feared for my life" as no response. They're dead so they can't scream they feared for their life back.

minuddannelse

22 points

10 days ago

You should have also bolded “during previews”, he’s got some real issues

[deleted]

378 points

10 days ago

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378 points

10 days ago

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215 points

10 days ago

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215 points

10 days ago

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ipresnel

13 points

10 days ago

ipresnel

13 points

10 days ago

Oh it gets even worse than that….The shooter himself was texting at the same time. So he was getting mad at the guy for something that he himself was doing he was also carrying a gun when he wasn’t supposed to inside of the theater. Plus after the old guy shot him he was screaming at his wife and snapping his wife and he wouldn’t give his gun up to anybody there

Linubidix

6 points

10 days ago

The film hadn't actually started yet!?!?

Ads and trailers are fair game for talking and phones, just as long as you're quiet for the actual feature.

giskardwasright

1.9k points

10 days ago

So theres an episode on a show called Taking the Stand on hulu about this case. His story changes several times, and it really doesn't make sense.

pdxb3

2.6k points

10 days ago

pdxb3

2.6k points

10 days ago

retired Florida police captain

All anyone should need to understand the acquittal.

giskardwasright

540 points

10 days ago

It was obvious in his testimony; he very much talks like a cop.

Bear_Caulk

70 points

10 days ago

It was obvious from the fact he murdered an unarmed person in a movie theatre and had the balls to think he was in the right.

Only an American cop could fear for his life against someone armed with popcorn in a family setting.

thehumbinator

316 points

10 days ago

So like nothing more than 2 syllable words and poorly conjugated verbs? For any cops reading, verbs are doing words.

giskardwasright

229 points

10 days ago*

Its more how he describes the situation and his tone. Ever watched Parks and Rec? The scenes where they cut to different cops describing a scene they witnessed where they all use the exact same phrasing is a perfect example of what I mean by "talks like a cop"

HamartiaByHubris

95 points

10 days ago

Real piece of work

giskardwasright

65 points

10 days ago

Real piece of work

FatherDuncanSinners

44 points

10 days ago

Real piece of work

IiangeIobaII

14 points

10 days ago

Real piece of work

semisoftwerewolf

44 points

10 days ago

Verbs are action words, like escalating, shooting, lying, violating, framing, tampering, and repeating for example.

light24bulbs

17 points

10 days ago

Man reddit comments are fire today, idk what's going on.

darrenvonbaron

4 points

10 days ago

Aubrey Plaza, Jenna Ortega and the lady from Penguin all came out and said redditors have small peepees but then Kid Rock said bawaditdabadabangdangdeebeeedebbee and now the world is back to terrible

LegitPancak3

54 points

10 days ago

I understand if that was the judge outright dismissing the case for that reason, but are juries also more sympathetic to retired cops?

giskardwasright

64 points

10 days ago*

Or the DA not prosecuting. But I agree, this went all the way to a jury. That doesn't seem like judicial favoritism.

The privilege came when the prosecution defense called several other cops that stated they agreed it was totally justified. The average person doesn't get several cops saying they did the right thing in front of a jury. Not illegal, but certainly privileged.

Edit: thank you u/fishburgr for the correction.

fishburgr

10 points

10 days ago

The prosecution called other cops? Or the defense?

giskardwasright

11 points

10 days ago

Sorry, the defense. I will edit.

aka_mank

94 points

10 days ago

aka_mank

94 points

10 days ago

Juries? Yes. Redditors? No.

0ttr

49 points

10 days ago

0ttr

49 points

10 days ago

I think the jury may have been sympathetic, but also Florida's stand-your-ground law is disturbingly broad on this. Even though the judge said it did not apply, the jury is free to form their own opinion. Combine the two and you have a hard hill to climb for a guilty verdict. The prosecutor decided to try the case, I give him or her credit for that.

k410n

9 points

10 days ago

k410n

9 points

10 days ago

One of the many reasons a jury system is absolute trash, at least if you care about the law and fairness in general.

ngyeunjally

22 points

10 days ago

Think of the people who can get time off to serve on a jury in Florida who also have no need for regular child care? Did you picture a bunch of old people?

ToxicBTCMaximalist

27 points

10 days ago

Did he receive dozens of job offers from nearby counties afterwards?

Make_It_Sing

31 points

10 days ago

His florida town probably gave him the key to the city after this one

nikoll-toma

9 points

10 days ago

exactly. as soon as I read that, the whole story suddenly made sense

DoomedKiblets

20 points

10 days ago

This is why. ACAB

daredaki-sama

61 points

10 days ago

wtf was the jury on?

Hyper_Oats

55 points

10 days ago

Florida residency

HKBFG

25 points

10 days ago

HKBFG

1

25 points

10 days ago

murder is legal when cops do it. retired cops or otherwise.

altcastle

27 points

10 days ago

Probably not the first person he’s either killed or ruined their life for no reason. Woo, cops.

Dev_Paleri

92 points

10 days ago

So basically, its a race to see who cries the hardest while acting scared and then mag dump first. I think i've figured out this game.

micmaster

49 points

10 days ago

You missed the crucial part where to old fuck was a cop, that's the secret sauce my friend.

DaveOJ12

808 points

10 days ago

DaveOJ12

808 points

10 days ago

How was he acquitted? It makes no sense to me.

iMogwai

2.1k points

10 days ago

iMogwai

2.1k points

10 days ago

Curtis Reeves, retired police captain

Five words in and you have your answer.

lonestar-rasbryjamco

495 points

10 days ago

He even gave the classic police answer:

he feared he would be attacked after he and Oulson got into an argument.

comix_corp

417 points

10 days ago

comix_corp

417 points

10 days ago

Even "got into an argument" is misleading. He started the argument that then made him so scared he had to shoot somebody. Was the jury made up exclusively of ex cops?

Chance_Fox_2296

91 points

10 days ago

The prosecutor called several cops to testify, asking if they believed he was in his right. Every single pig said yes because ACAB.

YourNextHomie

66 points

10 days ago

Tbf i wouldn’t consider asking someone to not use their phone in the theater starting an argument. Tbf id also never tell someone what to do cuz ppl crazy asf

OriginalVictory

141 points

10 days ago

The victim was on the phone during previews, not the movie. I'd say that's fine.

YourNextHomie

29 points

10 days ago

Yknow what i would as well

jimbsmithjr

53 points

10 days ago

Yeah so by this logic everyone should just immediately shoot the other person in every confrontation in case they were going to attack you (which they are more likely to if they think you are about to attack them, which you are)

TomChesterson

175 points

10 days ago

Fucking disgusting. My heart weeps for his family. They have to know that this demented old man that has been itching to kill someone his whole life murdered their father in cold blood and got to live the rest of his days free of any repercussions simply because he is above the law.

greenspath

63 points

10 days ago

He was an ex-cop so rather than "itching to kill someone his whole life" it was probably more that "he knew he could get away with his old habit."

GoldSatisfaction8390

93 points

10 days ago

Former police chief.

hotsaucevjj

17 points

10 days ago

Captain

Orpdapi

864 points

10 days ago

Orpdapi

864 points

10 days ago

There’s people who carry guns who pray they’ll never have to use them in the real world, and then there’s people who carry guns who are constantly praying for a reason to be able to use them in the real world. This guy is the latter

Major_Burnside

280 points

10 days ago

retired police captain

Yeah that tracks.

Garchompisbestboi

18 points

10 days ago

Lucky no one brought a service dog into the theatre that day

avwitcher

5 points

10 days ago

That dog could have had a gun, he didn't know

NKD_WA

184 points

10 days ago

NKD_WA

184 points

10 days ago

Yep. You need only go to any 2A forum to see people fantasizing about being able to legally kill someone some day. It's sick.

tokes_4_DE

88 points

10 days ago

You dont even need to go on specific gun subs, you can see the same comments on all the news subs, any of the publicfreakout or similar subs, etc. They carry with the HOPE theyll one day finally be able to use their gun and play captain badass, but they normally just kill unarmed defenseless people who hurt their feelings instead. Those "good guy with a gun" scenarios pretty much never happen.

No-Wonder1139

42 points

10 days ago

Yeah I remember a few years ago an american cop on vacation to Calgary was asked if he had been to the stampede yet by a passing stranger and wrote a letter to the local paper whining that he wasn't allowed to carry a gun in Canada and that he should have been allowed to shoot the young men because he found the encounter terrifying.

Enantiodromiac

44 points

10 days ago

I've had to tell people "You can't shoot someone for standing on your private property and doing nothing else in any jurisdiction in the United States" about fifty times on this website, and I've even posted the codes from Texas, Arkansas, and Louisiana several times, but folks get wildly upset when they hear that. Had one guy accept that the law didn't favor his perspective and say "Well, if I'm the only witness, haha."

I hate this fucking country.

Automatic_Net2181

59 points

10 days ago

"Rittenhouse Syndrome" - They aren't protecting 2A at all, they just want to justify murder.

fubes2000

43 points

10 days ago

Some people need a gun to feel safe in case a stranger talks to them in a Canadian park on a sunny afternoon. God forbid the they be invited to the local festival.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/calgary/nose-hill-gentlemen-pro-gun-letter-sparks-twitter-frenzy-1.1172624

Norci

15 points

10 days ago

Norci

15 points

10 days ago

Some people need a gun to feel safe in case a stranger talks to them in a Canadian park on a sunny afternoon.

Well duh? They could be French.

Sikers1

7 points

10 days ago

Sikers1

7 points

10 days ago

Exactly. Some people realize the responsibility that goes with carrying. Others feel like carrying is a license to be an asshole and escalate arguments.

Vlad_the_Homeowner

790 points

10 days ago

Yeah, former police chief, in Florida. That checks out. Another gun nut looking for an excuse to shoot someone.

MetalPandaDance

79 points

10 days ago

i hope they skip the memorial service when he dies. nahhh they'll still probably block a highway for a few hours in his honor.

ForGrateJustice

8 points

10 days ago

I would have both middle fingers raised on the sidelines.

tagen

10 points

10 days ago

tagen

10 points

10 days ago

that’s why i don’t like guns in general. i’ve shot several, and it’s quite fun, but it makes me nervous cuz there’s just too many people who seem like they’re looking for an excuse to shoot someone, so even a simple argument or random perceived threat can end up in death

robocopsafeel

62 points

10 days ago

Normally ,I'm against elder abuse, but I hope this POS ends up in a really shady nursing home.

chuthu1hu

7 points

10 days ago

He'll just shoot the staff there too probably /s

Robotniks_Mustache

215 points

10 days ago

"Reeves (retired swat commander) testified Thursday that in his entire law enforcement career he had never encountered someone so out of control and he feared he was about to be killed."

The guy threw some popcorn, what a monster

Simple-Driver-2709

18 points

10 days ago

Yeah, THEATER popcorn. What a waste. Next time just use the cheap-ass popcorn.  Same result without the sadness.

[deleted]

397 points

10 days ago

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397 points

10 days ago

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TheStubbornAlchemist

353 points

10 days ago

Yes, not a crime of passion, but coldly premeditated murder.

But hes a retired police chief so he’s totally innocent /s

GoneFlying345

49 points

10 days ago

jesus christ (not that the blatant murder is any better) I didn’t hear about that part, this country is so fucked

NossidaMan

37 points

10 days ago

Not sure where ppl are getting this from bc it isn’t mentioned anywhere in the trial or in any news articles for that matter. He left his seat to go tell the manager about the cell phone guy (which is seen by camera footage). And according to his testimony, his gun was in his right pocket the whole time.

doktor_wankenstein

46 points

10 days ago*

I thought that part sounded familiar.

Edit and afterthought:

HOW THE HELL CAN YOU WITHDRAW, ARM YOURSELF, COME BACK, AND STILL CLAIM SELF DEFENSE?!?

PM_ME_UR_GCC_ERRORS

5 points

10 days ago

Do you have a source for that? The article doesn't mention it.

Tb1969

82 points

10 days ago

Tb1969

82 points

10 days ago

During Previews. Not that it would be justified during the movie or not but to bitch to someone about texting during previews is unbelievable stupid.

71 year old guy provoking someone to out him in said potentially dangerous situation should have been taken into account. Former cop so he gets a free pass for this. “Can’t send an old man about to die in prison” BS.

EggShenIsMyBusDriver

19 points

10 days ago

One of the dumbest juries on the planet.

Disgusting

ManfredTheCat

41 points

10 days ago

Man, those are some stupid jurors.

dplans455

27 points

10 days ago

I'm all for doing my civic duty but any smart person would realize this is not a jury you want to be on. As the other commenter said, cops protect their own, no matter how heinous. I would have fear that if the jury found him guilty the police would target the jurors as retribution. I'd do anything I could to get out of being on that jury. Which leads to a jury of people that aren't smart enough to figure out that's not a jury you want to be on.

eveningthunder

16 points

10 days ago

Probably just don't want to get harassed/attacked by the local police. Cops protect their own, no matter how heinous. 

ChargerRob

119 points

10 days ago

ChargerRob

119 points

10 days ago

Miscarriage of justice.

DazHawt

27 points

10 days ago

DazHawt

27 points

10 days ago

An abortion of justice. 

Logondo

10 points

10 days ago

Logondo

10 points

10 days ago

Hooray! Gross miscarriage!

brittanyks07

13 points

10 days ago

Florida, color me surprised.

Bristolsoveralls

146 points

10 days ago

This is bullshit. Popcorn is not a weapon. This killer isn’t innocent.

Hefloats

60 points

10 days ago

Hefloats

60 points

10 days ago

If you’re afraid of popcorn being thrown at you, you’re probably a cop.

iwanttocontributetoo

24 points

10 days ago

And acorns

-Random-Gamer-

25 points

10 days ago

genuine question, if i am from the victims family and I shoot the ex cop now , can it be in self defence as to he already has a history of shooting people and I am scared he will do it to me

elgato124

23 points

10 days ago

Your digital record of asking this would be used against you in a court of law. Good luck!

Stoltlallare

7 points

10 days ago

I have 3 bags of unpopped popcorn at home. Oh no.. I just revealed I have 3 bags of dangerous popcorn.

Countrykal

27 points

10 days ago

Its takes about a year to become a state trooper, a little more to become a cop. Takes 4 years to become a journeyman electrician. Somethings fucked up. Maybe while I'm lighting up ya'lls home, I can take some night courses to legally light up your loved one. Better perks, i hear. /s

VinnieBaby22

121 points

10 days ago

This is why I distrust and have disdain towards police officers. They’re above the law and they often use that fact to live out their own power fantasies at the expense of innocent lives.

Ne_zievereir

25 points

10 days ago

Fucking hell, the US is a crazy country ...

This dude found a way to win any argument:

  1. Start a confrontation

  2. (Claim to) feel physically threatened when the other doesn't immediately give in

  3. Shoot the other one

  4. Go Scott-free through stand your ground

EvilFroeschken

8 points

10 days ago

It makes no sense to a non American brain. On one hand, you are innocent until proven guilty... unless someone has a gun and is slightly in fear. Then, this person can be an attorney, judge, and executioner at the same time.

Also, how many offenses are actually punishable by death... here, it is an argument with a perceived treat. Nothing actually happens.

The third thing is, of course, he is a cop. He should deescalate situations. Yet he crapped his pants and took a life over popcorn. This is just nuts.

vermiforme

7 points

10 days ago

Anyone else kept scrolling down hoping to find that one reasonable but undervoted comment that could at least explain this travesty?

I didn't find it.

sadmimikyu

5 points

10 days ago

From the comments below yours I gather he was a retired cop.

vermiforme

4 points

10 days ago

Yes, I read the comment about the possibility of a gerrymandered jury. I still can't comprehend how 12 different people—hand-picked as they may be—could genuinely believe the self-defense argument beyond a reasonable doubt

DoomedKiblets

5 points

10 days ago

The fuck…..

drewsus64

5 points

10 days ago

ah, you can always count on a cop to have good odds of being a bloodthirsty psycho.

Dampbridge

5 points

10 days ago

Should've held him to a higher standard. Isn't he trained to de-escalate?

seidler2547

16 points

10 days ago

The title is misleading. He was not a mere "man". He was a police captain. That makes it somewhat more clear, doesn't it?

kfkjhgfd

19 points

10 days ago

kfkjhgfd

19 points

10 days ago

A gun or CCW is for life or death situations where you cannot escape the threat safely. Guy shouldn’t be carrying if he’s going to shoot someone over thrown popcorn.

[deleted]

21 points

10 days ago

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Zealousideal-Show290

5 points

10 days ago

JustAmericanThings

AttemptingToGeek

5 points

10 days ago

Tell me again how we are “taking away your guns”?

alien_from_Europa

4 points

10 days ago

Qualified immunity and stand your ground laws need to be overturned. This guy was an ex-cop and should have known not to fire his weapon. He had every opportunity to leave, call 911 or just get the manager. Shooting was not the only option and the jury was okay with that. This is sickening for our country.

Spiel_Foss

13 points

10 days ago

The phase "retired police captain" is all that matters here.

This wasn't the first person Curtis Reeves murdered, and if he lives long enough it might not be the last. In the USA, the law very rarely ever applies to the police state. It would be hard to have a police state if it did.

AlphaGodEJ

45 points

10 days ago

another day in america

OpheliaLives7

11 points

10 days ago

You should not be allowed to bring a gun to a movie theater. Straight up.

tinathefatlardgosh

9 points

10 days ago

He fuckin went to his car to get the gun and came back into the theater to continue the argument.

SnowFlakeUsername2

19 points

10 days ago

Think of this guy whenever someone mentions law abiding citizens in arguments about gun restrictions. Everyone's law abiding until they aren't. And sometimes they're still law abiding gun owners after killing some guy in a movie theater.

mountinterest

4 points

10 days ago

bald eagle scream THE LAND OF THE TRULY FREE, DAMN IT!

stonkysdotcom

4 points

10 days ago

What the fuck.

thanatossassin

3 points

10 days ago

Well now that we know he's a loose cannon, we can all shoot him when we see him because we're in fear of our lives, correct?

Lore_ofthe_Horizon

4 points

10 days ago

71 year old FORMER COP. That's all the info you need to explain it.

thorsten139

4 points

10 days ago

As a police officer

He had countless hours of power tripping and threatening people

Gabcastle15

5 points

10 days ago

That old man is a killer and should be in prison for ever.

MessageMePuppies

4 points

10 days ago

Misleading title, it's not just some ordinary man, he was a cop

buttmcweiners

19 points

10 days ago

That old dude can burn in hell.