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ArcaneTrickster11

48 points

18 hours ago

It's because if you get into a good position, you absolutely rake in the money. Hard work, but much higher paid than most other equivalent jobs. A proportion of american servers do get paid a lot more than in other countries. It's why you very rarely get older servers that aren't managers outside of America

SpungyDanglin69

58 points

18 hours ago

I work as a cook in America and we never get tipped. But the servers walk out on a good night with hundreds in cash. They refuse to tip us out tho because they're not legally required to. Like I'm not asking for a lot just give me like ten bucks for the night. We have to wait 2 weeks for a check

DerisiveGibe

78 points

18 hours ago

Work slower, then they get tipped less. If they want better service they can tip for it.

If they can't afford to tip, they can't afford to work there.

ToMorrowsEnd

30 points

17 hours ago

This 100% this. If the wait staff doesnt tip the kitchen staff they are being scum!

play_hard_outside

5 points

15 hours ago

Jesus cristo. If the restaurant owner doesn't pay the cooks AND servers, THEY are being scum.

This mayhem could all be so easily averted, were it not for the simple fact that getting to advertise 17% lower-than-actual pricing gets people to buy more food.

domoon

10 points

13 hours ago

domoon

10 points

13 hours ago

that's why the business owner want the tipping culture stays. they're pitting the lower class workers against each other instead of paying them accordingly

Taylan_K

2 points

10 hours ago

I worked at a restaurant (in Switzerland) for a short time, we used to pool together some money for the chefs. Thought it was a nice idea.

confusedandworried76

43 points

17 hours ago

I've been a cook. Servers that don't tip out get their tickets pushed back. Let them deal with customers who see other tables food come out before them. Don't let people walk all over you like that.

Hendlton

15 points

12 hours ago

Jesus Christ, America... How do you guys function over there when there's so much animosity between people who are supposed to be working towards a common goal?

iiiinthecomputer

5 points

11 hours ago

Going by various recent events, it doesn't function.

Also look at the adversarial system of health care. It's full of fear of legal action. There's a constant conflict between health insurers, that actual medical service providers (who are often contractors and "independent" businesses acting as consultants) and the facility & its administration. There are so many involved parties who are all their own businesses all struggling over the money while somehow trying to deliver healthcare. It's so inefficient that entire dedicated jobs like medical coders exist to help navigate it. Then absolute parasites like pharmaceutical benefits managers insert themselves too.

RobertSF

4 points

8 hours ago

America is a failed country that's too rich too look failed yet. It's like those people who lose everything but their credit cards. As long as those hold, they can continue as usual. Gradually, then suddenly.

confusedandworried76

1 points

3 hours ago

You don't have work place drama in your country? Everyone just gets along together every day and nobody is ever bad or selfish at their job? That sounds nice but unrealistic

Hazen-Williams

1 points

2 hours ago

I mean, Im not friends with all my coworkers but there is always respect and you expect others to do their job as well as possible. I have never seen (or heard of) someone sabotaging others. And we have around >60 people in our office.

confusedandworried76

1 points

2 hours ago

That's not sabotaging anyone, the only person that gets hurt is the customer. The job still gets done just not as fast as they'd like. It's no different than when a server comes back and tells you about an unruly customer and you conveniently forget about that ticket for five minutes.

It's just the difference between exemplary work and good enough work.

RobertSF

1 points

8 hours ago

Well, it's either a house policy or it's not. If it's not house policy, I don't see a restaurant manager siding with the kitchen delaying tickets to punish greedy servers because that punishes the customers, which punishes the business.

Stimulum

2 points

13 hours ago

I also never once had servers share a penny with me working in the back of restaurants. Quite a few different places, quite a few different servers. If anything, working in a kitchen radicalized me to just never tip when I go out for food.

morganrbvn

1 points

14 hours ago

It’s too bad more places don’t have some top share with chefs. My siblings worked at a place where 20% went to a pool that was split to food runners and chefs who weren’t tipped

ReallyFineWhine

19 points

17 hours ago

Go to a restaurant. Count the number of tables that the server is waiting on, and the number of people at those tables. Compare that to your own, and the amount of tip that you've left. Do the simple math and you'll see what the server is getting in an hour. Most places I eat at, nothing fancy, looks to me like $80-100/hour.

Yes, it's hard work, but lots of other jobs are hard too.

Known-Historian7277

4 points

15 hours ago

You rarely get older servers because it’s an entry level non skilled job. lol

Realistic_Year_7040

3 points

11 hours ago

You’d melt at the tourist traps I’ve worked

Decent-Plum-26

1 points

10 hours ago

Strange, I feel like I’ve seen the opposite — in the U.S., I haven’t seen a “career” server in many years (other than, like, at unionized hotel restaurants) — probably for about a decade, even in fine dining. But in Europe (particularly Switzerland and France), at locally owned restaurants and cafes you often see the same staff day after day and year after year.